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rewind stray bullets on al-jazeera. or. i don't know and taylor nandan the top stories announces there are the us senate has launched a formal proceedings for the impeachment trial of president donald trump in the past hour chief justice of the u.s. supreme court john roberts was foreman as the presiding judge over $100.00 senators were also sworn in they will act as jurors during the proceedings a trial which donald trump has denounced as a con job by the democrats will start on tuesday president trump is accused of freezing aid to pressure ukraine to investigate a political rival senator's i can the senate in conformity with your notice for the purpose of joining with you for the trial of the president of the united states i'm now prepared to take the oath you pay sure left hand on the bible and raise your
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right hand do you solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of donald johndroe president of the united states now pending you will do impartial justice according to the constitution and the laws so help you god i do how does your caster is on capitol hill and explains that even after the chief justice was sworn in it's the senators who are in control. the actual decision making as far as whether or not to call witnesses as far as any questions that the senators may have it's the senators themselves who will be voting as and as a simple majority they will be apt to as judge in a sense to answer those pending questions as they emerge within the trial so an impeachment trial very different than a judicial trial where you see a typical defendant a judge and jurors in this case it is those jurors the 100 senators who will in
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essence act as both jury and judge in deciding in answering their own legal questions and exactly how these proceedings will unfold and attacks on able to produce in syria have resumed the country's last remaining rebel held area at least 21 people have been killed in recent days and hundreds of thousands have been forced to flee despite a cease fire declared on sunday but failed to hold russia's ministry of defense says it was not behind the bombing the u.n. says 350000 syrians have been forced to flee the province since early december most of those are women and children germany's foreign minister says the libyan warlord highly for have to is committed to a cease fire even though one that started on sunday failed us is in talks with after a stronghold in the libyan city of benghazi this comes ahead of a conference on libya planned for sunday in germany which have to says he may attend his forces have been trying to take control of the capital since april
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meanwhile turkey has started deploying troops to tripoli to support the u.s. backed government base there. the taliban says it has offered the united states a temporary ceasefire in afghanistan of up to 10 days it's being seen as an opportunity to restart talks in doha between the 2 that president trump called dead in september the taliban wants foreign troops to withdraw while the u.s. has said a reduction in violence would see forces pulled out in return for security guarantees pakistan's foreign minister says the taliban offer is a positive step towards peace. the taliban have shown their willingness to reduce the violence which was a demand and i believe that this is a step towards an agreement towards a peace agreement. and despite international pressure to abide by its 2015 nuclear deal commitment iran says it will continue to enrich uranium in a televised speech president hassan rouhani said iran has now surpassed the limits
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set under the agreement is statement comes after 3 you know actions that were party to the deal launched a dispute mechanism thousands more people in the philippines have been forced to abandon their homes because of the threat of a major volcanic eruption evacuation centers in areas across the tigris province are now almost full buildings in towns near tower volcano which erupted on sunday have collapsed under the way to falling ash and seismologists say there are signs a 2nd eruption may be coming. to stay with us face to face is next looking at the 2 men from different worlds who came together and apartheid. at my heart for parents.
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but the state does suffer not that it is very. i would also like take this opportunity. the power regulate my comp or of a lot of. paper than ever cover of the book here had the car to. go at mc. or that terrible wrong at the current to our country and. through the imposition of the system of about. december 1993 the packed house and on to city home owners nelson mandela the hero of the anti-apartheid struggle and frederick the clown the last white president of south africa i've years ago. if i would have seriously question the sanity of anyone who would have predicted that mr madela and i would be joining the disappearance of the $99.00 bill.
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yet all of us. are before you today behind the coty of speeches the 2 leaders are at olds and the tension in the country is at its highest in the us. we're living below bowden's. we disagree store issues and we will soon fight the strenuous election that plane against one of them any day not withstanding the event the spro quest which will make. all the 3000 people have died in political violence. since the beginning of this year mandela and dick clarke parkins as much as well able to carry to his representing a cruising campus in gazed in unwilling to move to solutions of political and personal doom that was poised to put an end to one of the most racist when the products. 'd
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7 kilometers west of cape town nelson mandela was a prisoner for 18 years raised in a village in eastern south africa he founded the 1st black law from in the country appalled by the treatment of blacks and people of color he created the armed wing of the african national congress to fight against the apartheid regime that are meant to be a blow feel that it is useless and for the future for us to continue talking peace and nonviolence against the government was a block is only
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a savage attacks. under defenseless people. in 1962 mandela was arrested 2 years later he and his fellow accused were sentenced to life imprisonment for sabotage and conspiracy he was 46 years old. during his incarceration and social unrest spread and intensified among the black people who represented almost 3 quarters of the population of the state responded with increasingly savage repression. in the 1980 s. the country was subjected to the iron fist leadership of peter both or head of the national party regarded as a hard liner he was nonetheless aware that profound change was inevitable among his most influential ministers was frederick vellum declare an ambitious afrikaner who
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entered politics in 1971 f. w. as everyone called him came from an influential conservative family. one must remember that his father had been a very senior national party politician it being president of the senate his uncle had been prime minister so he was deeply. involved in the whole growth and development of the national party mr de klerk was perceived to be on the conservative side that he was predicting what group rights as it was call but i think to his credit almost always say that he was never in favor of a security solution for the country never in 71 i still embraced the concept of separateness which i believed idealistic could bring justice in the early eighty's.
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i came to the conclusion and not only me many of my colleagues around me that the concept of separateness is just institutionalizing in justice that it was our own and that we had to abandon the concept of a part they separate us. in the early eighty's nelson mandela returned to the mainland after 2 decades of brutal detention he was transferred to post more prison then in 1988 to more comfortable housing within the victor 1st the prison about 100 kilometers from cape town. for mandela was no ordinary prisoner convinced that negotiation could bring an end to apartheid he had begun secret meetings with government representatives notably we could see how the justice minister and neal barnard the head of the secret services. and so
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p.w. identified a team of which i was the head at the time to start in total secrecy negotiations with one below which in fact started in my $988.00 until eventually they met some got 50 times or $48.00 times every week for hours on end and nobody not is almost the archetype of an afrikaner nationalist mandela use that to get to know the minds of the afrikaans the minds of the national party and by the time he came out he knew more or less what they were what they were thinking what was possible what wasn't possible he knew more or less how to treat them. both at home and abroad calls for mandela's release grew louder and gained more support for his party the a.n.c. represented him as the symbol of the anti-apartheid struggle. in early 1989 bhutto
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was weakened by a stroke shortly after a secret meeting with mandela he was forced to resign as party leader and later as president. i relented in august his former minister frederick de clercq age 53 took over as president of the country his priority to end the deadlock crippling south africa. on december 13th 1989 mandela left the victor vast the prison for a few hours he was secretly taken to the center of cape town to detain heise the president's office for the 1st time the black leader and white president found themselves face to face. i did not have high expectations of
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a 1st meeting with mr mandela and when i did have my 1st meeting i did not try to achieve much for both the him and me that 1st meeting was to get an understanding of each other to get a feel for the person sitting across the table to start with mandela was much taller than he expected. and he was also very impressed by president of mr mandela's aristocratic bearing because we must remember that the mandela was actually raised to be the prime minister of the paramount chief of the 10 booze so he had natural and natural sense of authority very dignified a very charming after that 1st meeting there was the feeling that yes we can do business with each other so i did expect that he would be positive
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about the concept of negotiation but we both of voided talking about the real challenges and the real issues at that time it was a sizing up proceedings and so that was the beginning of of a long and sometimes very very rocky relationship. on february the 2nd 1990 the eyes of $37000000.00 south africans were turned towards cape town for the opening of parliament they did declare was about to pronounce his 1st general policy speech many were hoping he would commit the country to a new direction. it is time for us to break out of the cycle of violence and to break through to peace and reconciliation the
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steps that have been decided on the following the prohibition of the african national congress the pan african as congress the south african communist party in a number of subsidiary organizations is being nice and people serving prison sentences merely because they were members of one of these organizations will be identified and released i think the clark when he took over as president in 1009. i was faced with a choice he knew that the country's economy was in really deep trouble he knew we were almost facing a civil war inside the country and here suddenly the thing landed on his lap was he going to do more about it more oppression more police more military and destroy the economy get into a civil war or was he going to be the sturrock a figure that ended it all and i think the berlin wall helped him
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a lot because it was a strong argument to use to say we had to fight against the a.n.c. because they were communists but no communism is dead sanaa we can talk to them which made their message easier to accept by the white people however what is very crucial to make the point that this change. the clear speech was not simply the result of a free condom nationalism of his party and of the clerk suddenly becoming good guys and through the good heart deciding that must be a change it was the pressure from the struggle i wish to put it plain that the government has taken a firm decision to release mr mandela unconditionally i'm serious i'm serious about being this matter to finality without dealing the speech i made
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on the 2nd of february 9090 contained a package of measures of which the release not only of nelson mandela but also of all political prisoners was just a part i listed the state of emergency. i tried in that speech to address each and every excuse in the sea could offer not to come to the negotiation table and during that period we were the only communicators and town and they had all of the t.v. cameras they needed to use. how and when to release the iconic mandela this was the subject of the 2nd confrontation between the 2 men one week later at the president's office. i announced to him that he would be released on the 11th of february. and the 1st
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reaction was it's too soon and i said why is it too soon he said we need more time to prepare insisted that this process cannot work without me i am the key to this thing so when you want to release me you release me at a time that suits me and my family because i have to manage the a.n.c. and it was one of the things of you will you are my prisoner you will do as i say and i said to him mr mandela you and i will negotiate about many things but you been in jail long enough you will be released on the 11th of february let us discuss what time of the day and from where you will be in east.
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on february 11th 1990 at 5 o'clock in the oftener there was great excitement at the victor fest a prison everyone had been waiting for several hours to see nelson mandela released arm in arm with his wife when. after 27 years in jail a free 71 year old man returned to his home in so wet oh determined to win freedom for his people. after 4 decades of conflict the adversaries met over 3 days and put ischia an official building in cape time in may 990 the jailer and his former prisoner walked side by side presenting a court image there are bound to be difficulties but there is cautious optimism as well as faith and conviction that problems will be solved by negotiation.
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and i trust that these discussions will be another milestone on the road to a new and you just saw that i think it was. overwhelmingly framed. it was like people who came together for the 1st time we didn't know each other but who wanted to meet each other. that was a that was a wonderful experience and was about the fact that. we suddenly realized on both sides that we had to work out jointly and collectively. a way forward and the doctor sponsible of the rest of us the body else could take that as far as. you can imagine. with the background of the participants. 2 sides of been fighting each other. fear were. suddenly being.
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of course there's a measure of mistrust. we do know al qaida stick for us. we didn't know. but the point is we had to agree there's only one way to discover. that is to me. striking feature. of the discussions. which will have head. during the last 3 days. has been the act cordiality. we have had. discussions on sensitive not. in a spirit of conciliation and understanding. despite the signature of a peace agreement 4 months later the relationship between de klerk on monday ella was tainted by violence around the often lethal conflict had broken out in various
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regions of south africa particularly in causing confrontations erupted to between a.n.c. supporters from the closer ethnic group and supporters of the i.f.c. the in qatar freedom party made up of zulus and led by monks who to buthelezi. not just say it is the places they are. not in the lead us the people who can only see that the beginning of a real discount. more people got killed in south africa between 10091904 than were killed by a part of forces in the entire history of a part it. there was a natural competition between the i of p n a n c u d f but it was aided and abetted by the former military and police people called it the force. the 2 big black groupings fighting and
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a 3rd force egging them on and fomenting more violence leading police teats and intelligence chiefs including military intelligence we're working with elements of the britain lazy party and the soft course was how mundane the came to use that label and to and to accuse the clerk of the statistics. were told last will. and national party has got that dab agenda for the negotiations process on the one hand a talk about reform and change. that. they still want to hold on to economic and political power he said you see you don't care about the
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life lives of blacks that's why you have you have allowed that situation to develop and this is why these things have happened even of that we have given you our commitment even when we have in no way committed had to discipline our people you behaved in this way because you don't care about black life i think the accusation that i didn't do enough was unfair and that was not based in fact from the moment that i started to have a suspicion and also in conjunction with all the allegations they were making i appointed judit to judicial commissions of inquiry. the one commission of inquiry came up and opened up a can of worms to show that yes there were elements in the security forces against my orders against the policy i've laid down who continued with politically this
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iraq underground activity that resulted in the dismissal time and of a big number of very senior officers the clerk of the difficulty he had to walk a tightrope he couldn't just walk into the military camp and say well go give up your arms the n.c. is taking over he had to take yet to move very carefully with the police and with the military. and he did it slowly and and nelson mandela has indicated that he understood that so there was a game that mandela would put pressure on him. to disband and to end the violence and that that would defend. as the 2 leaders exchanged accusations about the causes of the violence talks continue and
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a conference was soon organized could desa the convention for a democratic south africa to discuss the country's future institutions 300 delegates took part the a.n.c. and their allies demanded a majority electoral system where blacks would be dominant in the government declared his party wanted various measures to protect the white minority but on the very 1st day december 28th 1991 the talks almost collapsed when dick clark took the floor. with the. all the other parts do not have a jeweler's. because one cannot be the only thing. to do nothing but. to be sure solutions if you only just peters loss' least
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until to mention. proserpina films with on schedule make and the force not to go to new. year to the concept of up action. i spoke last and i made a strong attack on the a.n.c. what went on means i sent a warning to president mandela that i would be making those statements the mission which i believe did not get to him so nelson mandela sat there and watched the kruk a decade in this way and i have never before or since seen mandela so angry at the result was then that mandela to the states again it's like going back to the microphone and started to make an attack on us that attack.
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i honored taylor none of the top stories are now jazeera the u.s. senate has launched full proceedings for the impeachment trial of president donald trump chief justice of the us supreme court john roberts has been sworn in as the presiding judge or $100.00 senators were also sworn in they will act as jurors during the proceedings a trial which donald trump has denounced as a condo by the democrats will start on tuesday president trump is accused of freezing aid to pressure ukraine to investigate a political rival senator's i can the senate in conformity with your notice for the purpose of joining with you for the trial of the president of the united states i'm now prepared to take the oath you pretty sure left hand on the bible and raise your
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right hand do you solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of donald johndroe president of the united states now pending you will do impartial justice according to the constitution and the laws so help you god i do attacks on adelaide province in syria have resumed the country's last remaining rebel held area at least 21 people being killed in recent days and hundreds of thousands have been forced to flee as despite a ceasefire declared on sunday but failed to hold russia's ministry of defense says it was not behind the bombing the u.n. says 350000 syrians have been forced to flee the province since early december most of those are women and children for germany's foreign minister says the libyan warlord highly for have to is committed to a cease fire even though one that started on sunday failed i come us has been in talks with would have to at his stronghold in the libyan city of benghazi come as
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the head of a conference on libya planned for sunday in germany which have to says he may attend his forces are trying to take control of the capital since april. the taliban says it has offered the united states a temporary ceasefire in afghanistan up to 10 days is basing is not unity to restart talks in doha between the 2 but president trump called a dead in september the taliban wants foreign troops to withdraw while the u.s. is set a reduction in violence would see forces pull out in return for security guarantees . you stay with us if you can mandela and a clock in face to face continues next news after that.
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it's december 1991 talks to end decades of apartheid in south africa a faltering president f.w. de klerk has just blamed nelson mandela's a.n.c.
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for a surge in political violence mandela responds. i'm. concerned . about the behavior. of mr de cat here have been less and less. if it has at. all and in egypt and. discredited. my team as he. has certainly modest and it's. very few. what i had to deal with certainly. when he responded. to the clock was the closest we came to not having a negotiated solution i also think what he said that is what mandela really thought about the truck he never said it publicly because he knew the kind of money it is
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he knew he had to say i accept his bona fides he's a man of integrity otherwise he's followed his wouldn't do it but there he was and he was provoked and he was angry because he didn't he wasn't warned and and that was a scary moment and i think that told me everything i wanted to know about the relationship between the truck and and mandela it was a terrible one he was not only assured that he was fighting for that i had from his people what they believed in and what you'd. expect more from any man he could have been very rude. and very brutal if need be and all of this lift a mock it left a scar. across it on their person little unsure but also on the process and a need to course some damage unavoidably so. the negotiations would last for months
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under the pressure of white extremists declare called a referendum in march 1902 asking almost $3000000.00 white voters if they approved of the path he was taking more than 2 thirds of them voted yes. on june 17th 1992 zulus from the in ca to freedom party left their hostile accommodation and headed for the boy put on timeship johannesburg where the attacked a.n.c. supporters 45 people were brutally killed in the massacre the repercussions were dramatic exasperated mandela was very ill and in his response. and that point in time the administration of it was the only body that had the capacity and the power and the command to us there was there to do those people and
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therefore to prevent that from happening even when that was was going to be intelligence would have reported that there there's a. pileup of stocks of arms there and then there were people that were they members who went to that i can no longer at a. point in your. talk at work of no return. which is very very go up if. they're not. why go well provoked. we can fight back here lived at that stage and behold the again see that this was an example of government forces that were utilized and that point has never been proved but even through the consideration commission it was that that
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saw mandela break off the negotiation it became frozen. we launched in that period almost immediately a call for roading mass action to revive and get to a very high level the activity of the the masses in marchers demonstrations protest. in early august 1992 a campaign of strikes and demonstrations was launched the power struggle culminated on august the 5th with the march on pretoria the country's political capital. was. in front of tens of thousands of supporters mandela came to openly defied the clerk beneath the windows of the union building was the official seat of government and in our finance.
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they in big debt is the nation of unintended and i've. had a free hand finding lashes that have i don't think you understand what. they say to the mat. on stage you know after demise where you have sucked that out of the continent. then i less than that . satisfactory. by the government. negara see asians can't cannot and the way they're not a 0. am. the a.n.c. maintained the pressure he and dick clark were no longer speaking but in secret their lieutenants continued the discussions on the future of south africa.
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another massacre oblige the 2 men to officially renew the negotiations on september the 7th 1992 and a small town in the homeland of cisco by 70000 e.n.c. supporters demonstrated against a local military leader supported by the government security forces opened fire killing 29 people and wounding hundreds of others. out of the big issue issue came a meeting between our officials and the clerics and the decision to carry on and resume with the negotiations desperately seeking an agreement to clerk capitulated and ceded to mandela's demands in september $992.00 the principles behind the future constitution were determined it would be
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a majority system the white minority would have no veto or particular protection the date for the 1st multi-racial and democratic elections was set april 27th 1994. it was therefore 2 electoral rivals who went to also in december $993.00 to receive the nobel peace prize in norway. the 2 men attempted to put on a good show but dick clark could barely conceal his frustration. i think the decision of the nobel peace laureate committee was a very courageous decision and the award to more must among dello was a popular one the award to me was a controversial award because people said but i have practiced
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a partake in the past i had no problem with this the mondello receiving it at times it appeared as if he and the a.n.c. did not like very much the fact that it was also ordered to me i know that there were 2 that felt. nelson should not have shared with him i think that would have been a terrible mistake their contribution through the nobel peace prize was their contribution to say we congratulate you the people of south africa you for it amongst each other but in the course of that fight you learned to appreciate each other's humanity. and mandela was irritated by this man from the apartheid regime the people who put
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him in jail the people who oppressed these own people for so long trying to say i ended up after it praise me the credit felt that he did not get enough credit for ending up after and he wanted to be on the international stage he wanted to be. the big the big historical figure but he was mandela he was the biggest icon in the world so. the 2 perspectives and the 2 egos really clashed and it was also difficult because there was a very strong and he apartheid lobby in norway who didn't want him to get the you the prize atoll and at one stage she and mandela went out on to a balcony or. of the group the hotel and the main road of learned the norwegians who were supposed to be having a torchlight parade boo de klerk and they shared mandela so it was
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a bit humiliating for for the truck. back in south africa the presidential election campaign proved to be extremely tense. encounters a loose threatens not to take part in the vote and violent confrontations were frequent even in the center of johannesburg. as the world focused on saw a few days before the vote the 2 candidates faced off in a historic televised debate. where have what that plan appeared
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at that ally of ours i think and a better life means how. free according to education hospital services. way believes that this is out of me and my eyes in the eye and she's policy is riddled with that which has failed it is riddled still with clinging to nationalize ation you want good investments as long as that is the case they says that applause. often men or is not used to address the as significance of the charter to of the population or as government is committed to it for a small minority he is not alarmed at that or have for devote so much of his last. or is called sounds like. they just in general how do you write him off if you talk
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about. that. far. and nation beauty how i am proud to hold your. thought as to profile. on election day no one doubted that mandela's a.n.c. would imagine is the victim the question was whether the party would gain 2 thirds of the vote. the final score was indisputable 62 percent for the a.n.c. i'm just 20 percent for the national party. i hold out my hand to mr mandela in friendship and cooperation as far as my own
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post position is concerned i should like to make it clear. that i believe that my political task is just beginning everything that we have done so far the 4 years of difficult and often frustrating negotiations the problem and the crises. abin simply a blip in asian for the work that lies in. on may 10th 1994 after 4 years of negotiations and several 1000 people killed in political violence nelson mandela became president of south africa he was 75 years old. i
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think all for the future i think it's a great day for self africa finally there that meets we have set out to achieve as befits. the direct thought it was a glorious moment. because it was peaceful it was accepted by the war the leaders of the world with their defeat on that day he saw it as the. cruzan of these projects that started in 1809. according to the terms of an agreement signed in 1903 monday led a government of national unity assisted by 2 vice presidents tab on becky one of his right hand men and frederick declare. so you have made it big enough to call father sears and i live in. madison.
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growing up by side. very for the better public are full of it. so. i knew it was a snow day apartheid was overcome the last white president attending the swearing in of south africa's 1st black president. my overwhelming sense was a feeling of accomplishment yes i had questions and i still have it in my mind. whether we will be able to stay on the right path there are threats and there are always dangers that even if you reach a good agreement that in the implementation of the agreement things can go wrong but my general sense was one of this is a good day for south. all
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the parties with more than 20 deputies were represented in the government of national unity intended to last 5 years a coalition unique in the world took office a cabinet when a former president officiated under the orders of his successor both at the head of opposing parties. facing them and alan never chaired the cabinet in their key the other deputy president and i chaired the cabinet on meditational basis. it was a good experience i realized and serialize that they needed to gain experience in governance they've been a liberation movement they've been agitated they've been fighting they've been
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fighters in the field they didn't know how to deal with the civil service he possibly thought that his presence in the government of national unity. will give him the authority to teach then you'll come us. how to do things. whereas he ought to have run this through that he was also a newcomer into a situation that was new on twitter but there were moments when. i could see mr mandela getting frustrated. patients between mandela and dick clark hit the headlines. in january $995.00 i heated disputes during a cabinet meeting which forced dick clarke and mandela to stage a public reconciliation for the media. the main focus of our discussion.
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was our past non working relationship. our discussion was frank. and to a character in some detail. with all of the issues which caused the recent confrontation between us. we did not ask for an apology. we are asked for the recognition of al good faith. honesty and our integrity. in the process of the confrontation also my confidence in the president was shaken. and our talk this morning achieved also. the race to relation of that confidence. i'm shaking you know you love movement on the t.v. . often about 18 months the a.n.c.
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started to feel they've had enough of a learning experience. and then they started to try and silence me because i was not only an executive deputy president i was also the political leader of the main political opposition part and they were trying to say i cannot in public criticize the citizens with which i disagreed in the cabinet because i'm an executive to 50 percent that was part of the problem which 6 months later after 2 years but rolled me to the decision with my party who was there all from the government of national unity i think that the clear and his group where feeling that they were losing too much support from the white constituency and that if they remained
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in government with the a n c they would continue to lose support again i think the clerics ego came in the way that and his personal circumstances and we sometimes talk about politicians and forget that they are ordinary human beings the clerk at the fall in love married a new young woman a beautiful woman that he was very much in love with he lost his appetite for dirty politics for hard politics. and instead of leaving his party inside and going to tie it with lovely elites he took them all out declared can despotic he left the government in june 1086 shortly after the adoption of the country's new constitution mandela himself left politics in 1909 handing over to topple him back. in just 6 years of
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a hard for to do the 2 men had to learn to clean change the course of their country's history and forever bound to their own destinies they continued to see each other far from the political turmoil like in 2006 at a hotel in cape town at frederick declared 70th birthday. and i mean. once they had retired they knew that they the 2 of them played a special role. in history. and they never become friends but on the one or 2 occasions public occasions they said nice things about it all we did sir. and i feel like this is a day in mobile thought all the words. are all. right up l o o. o o o
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o this way what. i heard a person in the past will say that our country does not suffer of knowledge. because all. i've ever done look at the. planet. where the. president mandela made. a wonderful short speech. at a function for all friends and family. i was deeply touched. by the nicholl vision he gave to my contribution to. help to bring peace to south africa i was deeply touched by the personal warmth. which he extended to me. i even caused a little bit if i can remember well. hello
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the rain has come as you know and it's not finished now it's not all good news because the rain coming down the form of big thunderstorms hitting dry and that's had a fire and it doesn't necessarily soak in to the ground so they get repeated showers he's cooldowns more rain to come and the fires will be quenched to some degree in
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new south wales the rain might also cause flooding in fact it has already caused some flooding but as long as it's collected i suppose that's good news and this is the forecast for friday so showers potentially they're all the way from eastern victoria through most of new south wales and right up through queensland and on shore breeze keeps it cooler temperatures nowhere that high in the interior there approaching 40 on that is in perth there are 2900 russia has it west australia to what has happened to change things that's just a change of pattern and on saturday the showers move bit further east they're still there in new south wales if it is quite big ones again flash flood potential fewer in victoria than there are in new south wales that's where all the excitement is up here in china and japan is clearly clearly movement but over land for the most part it's quiet wintry weather but there is rain edging up the east coast of honshu.
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when investigating crime an admission of guilt is the ultimate corroboration. or isn't there or tactics that can be used to get innocent people to confess to crimes they didn't commit witness explores the shocking phenomenon of people incriminating themselves the person who falsely contrast actually came to believe the lie that they were told about their own behavior false confessions on al-jazeera. there's a wave of sentiment around the world people actually want accountability from the people who are running their countries and i think often people's voices are not heard because they're just not part of the mainstream news narrative. obviously we cover big stories and we report on the big events going on but we also tell the stories of people who generally don't have a voice and then when i was a child my that's a never be afraid to put your hand up not a question and i think that's what our series does we ask the questions to people who should be accountable and also we get people to give their view of what's going
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