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movements which which in which we have our demand can we want change so we're going to have to see how the security forces respond to this they have come under a lot of criticism in recent days by human rights groups international human rights groups human rights watch amnesty international they have released statements saying bafta for example the use of rubber bullets security forces have been using rubber bullets at close range and targeting the eyes of protesters a number of protesters have lost their eyes suffered injuries to their eyes so the security forces are also very well aware that the international community is watching and monitoring how they are going to deal with this unrest how are they going to weld this on rest so you just take a moment your words catch your breath there and i'll just explain again what they're saying because just joined us these are protests on the streets of beirut
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that have become increasingly angry increasingly violent and aggressive and some of the honda has been reporting to us about how. these protests have started today and just how much more aggressive being some of the protesters she's saying she also said that by now within about 100 meters of the building and the protesters have pushed through the barricades we've seen security forces using tear gas and water cannon to try to push the protesters back the protests have been hurling rocks the fancy things on fire there now we've seen windows that have been smashed while we've been. saying if i could bring you back ian give us a sense to it's hard to get really need to tell from where the cameras position but how big is this protest what are the numbers of people that we've seen. a few 100 stand a few. a few 100 young men and i must say that not all of them are from beirut some
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of them are from the northern city of tripoli one of the most impoverished cities in the country they came by bus there were plans to converge argument square late this afternoon that people have been traveling you know this is a nationwide 6 hereon protest movement this is. yes sorry yes this is a most nationwide protest movement and a lot of these young boys are from cities outside beirut unemployment is very high for example in tripoli but like i told you there's a there's another level to what we are seeing today because we have been speaking to people here and a lot of them feel yes we have been marginalized ignored dismissed by the ruling alliance but we have also been marginalized as a community tripoli is a majority 70 city and they feel that the only official who has
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a scapegoat in this whole crisis has been the prime minister saad of how do you need to step down amid nationwide protests at the end of october so this is where the danger lies that is this protest movement going to take on herion callers i can hear these young men talk about the fact that they feel that their community has been targeted that the the others in power or the other communities in power have stripped their community from the powers enshrined in the constitution so as you can see more violence as they try to advance towards parliament building this is the 1st time they preach the security cordon i must say i'm not sure how. far they will. be able to make their way there's another security fence a barricade just a few meters from where we are standing i'm not sure they will be able to. oh ok
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that was right for you coming back or else i tell you just you just move back zeiner is another position and you move back side or into a position where you feel comfortable and we can come back to you and i'll just describe again what we soon hear these protesters zain has said several 100 of them increasingly aggressive increasingly violent on the streets much earlier than we've seen in recent weeks have pushed through the barricades approached the part of the building zion and said within about 100 meters of the building while we've been on air we've seen windows smashed we've seen things set a lot you can see things burning here right now. and you've seen protesters continuing to hold rocks you seeing on the screen security have used water cannon security security is used water cannon they've also used tear gas to try to push back the protesters and they have been as close as a 100 meters from the parliament building itself you cabinet has formed in the
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country they've had a meeting today and front and center is the question of dealing with the economic crisis in the country the designer also pointed out there are deep sick tyrian divisions inside the country some of those sick terry divisions may be more apparent now the protest movement itself to go back to zion or resign or have you had a chance to speak to some of the protesters. yes yes ok we're joined by a protester who came to beirut from tripoli the northern city of you really why did you come here and why are you violently attacking the security forces in trying to storm 1st of all i came to protest because i mean of us to go to it i've got to tell you to go another thought on the job yet. oh. come here come if they're ok i'm sorry about the stand i know very chaotic situation so we are joined by a university graduate he graduated from university and he's here in the streets
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confronting the security forces why. ok ok well the fall into. tell me protesting peacefully just won't get resolved we sit down 3 months with us in this funding and we have no it's all just yesterday therefore the government which none of the citizens or the people that are getting going it none of them want to watch i'll be safe useful i'm not sure we can say none some of the people who still support those political parties in power. how were you going to convince them to join your we so we started this because we want everyone to just remove the they don't they're the colors of the parties to pick a way to generally just put it aside and just run on by hand that's each other.
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we were out on no one. but so there are some people who are not still love the leaders the political leaders of the court is those who are actually fighting ghosts. i don't think those people are on the streets no. i think they're with us now but what are you hoping because they actually support this government is hoping to achieve what do you think how will this change anything this violent confrontations how will it change we're just showing how angry the people are. if you see that. and you think that the ruling elite the 1st little. boy run against. your government. and. fireworks are going to be happening behind like you continue to talk.
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oh so what do you do when you graduated from university what are you why don't you work sorry marketing director of marketing graduate and are you working know why because. if i fall into a job they want to pay the minimum salary. you know the minimum side is going to be enough for me to. my focus is not loans and so it isn't enough. but. i found like 3 or 4 jobs which powerful foresaw that it would go by transportation and that's. something for me. what to how do you see the country weren't where do you think the country you're watching these scenes in front of you do fear for lebanon's future that this unrest could cause further instability as you can see the anti-riot police are now gathering it's clear that they are going to use whatever means available they have to clamp down and to contain the unrest.
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here in central beirut which has been going on now for over an hour people are angry you heard what this young man said his own able to build a better future he believes those in power. have done little for the people and this is a sentiment felt by by many especially the use of many of them have left the country in search of jobs elsewhere. and the poverty is only increasing according to the world bank one 3rd of the population live below the poverty line this is a country of 4400000 people and the world bank even before the protest movement warned that that number that statistic could rise to how the population if the economic situation continues to deteriorate a dire economic situation social unrest this is a country which is not immune. has seen violence over the years
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a country which. passed through a 15 year civil war that ended in 1990 there is little national unity in this country and when politicians sit together to try to form a government they divide seats according to sect not according to qualifications this is one of the core demands of the protest movement to end the sectarian system of government the political system in this country they believe that people should be appointed according to their qualifications and not their sect and they blame the political parties the mainly sectarian political parties of exploiting and using sectarian sentiments in order to keep people divided and that's the way they stay in power so no holders by route so if you have to riot police getting ready. and much of what you're on the screen designer saying use the way the riot police are now in force to move on these protesters several 100 of them has described you
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were very aggressive very violent protests have broken through the barricades that approached the palma building before being pushed back is being water cannon used as being tear gassed used watching on the screen the riot police getting set for what looks like an advance of by taking on the protesters this seems to spreads not just from around that initial area towards the building but it seems pretty new to all the streets here as well. well central beirut really has been the epicenter of the protest movement throughout the parliament building you have the government palace you also have the iconic martyrs square which really has been the protest site since the start of this uprising against the political class this whole area is downtown beirut many people of occupy we have to move they're asking us to move away a bit you know yes so they are clearly planning their advance to end and
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quell this on the rest which is. which is quite different than what we have seen over recent days in recent days the violence was contained to outside the main gate of parliament square now protesters have tried to break down security barriers in other streets surrounding part of the building. here yes protesters are fighting back on the anti-riot police force to retreat that they're just as there is defiance these young men don't seem to be afraid they don't see him and that's what they've been telling us they've been telling us what do we have to lose we are we are dead inside we don't have jobs tripoli most of these young men are from tripoli and impoverished yes. he would like to tell us i'm with another protester here but
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he doesn't seem to be involved in the. much wouldn't. confrontations i am with turning it into a lot of dilution because our states man they only know how to be disobedient to the people in. various other there's i would just i would put his money. like this showing grenades on people on their heads in. the night sitting between none peaceful protesters but the security forces said that they will. action against those who vandalized those who assault security forces. have been sponsoring the security forces for a long time now and they give them a lot of training in the formalities they should be able to stand for a couple of hours and. be a big problem for them. look at the car coming to. look at it look at it it's like throws 5 time ok so you support support.
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so you're not taking part in the confrontations what do you think this is going to achieve so i'm going to achieve anything. that's going to. a lot of people. benefiting from i would. benefit any more than they would dissipate with us against the regime so. it is a sector. and it's not going to last long but it's going to i believe it's the. international community's backing them up. in the newspaper that a lot of. others have the only the only foreign official who has made a comment since the formation of the government is the french president who said that to everything to help lebanon and so. he's not a story to mention a government he stopped short of saying whether or not the french are there with.
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their government. and i'm not to the hezbollah. political parties they could up to. and they're not going to. get out of it. but this breeds instability. ability in the midst of it so what. for example i work so i don't. i don't like them because they want to go to prison for 23 days i might get fired from my job. if i couldn't have a job you would soon with them fronting to produce so it's time you heard that from a protester one bottle in a long war so nobody is under the illusion here that they can win this battle easily the balance of power is clearly in the favor of the established parties who control the administrations who control the security agencies and who control the judiciary because one of the core demands of this protest movement this for an
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independent judiciary they feel that a lot of public money has been stolen files should be open in order for stolen money to be returned to the state because the state is facing near bankruptcy so as you see more and more people are supporting turning. this program into a violent campaign because they've given up using peaceful means and both of the young men that you've spoken to have raised questions about the sectarian nature of the country as well and as we heard from the young man you spoke to there he is from the self saying he does not support hizbollah but that that question of the sectarian nature of politics and the way that the various factions of the various groups inside the country are afflicted at a political level really goes doesn't it to the heart of the anger that we're seeing amongst protesters who say they want a different political system. yes this is what's
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so different about the protest movement. sectarian people from all walks of life from various areas of the country various sects coming together a newfound unity if you like i remember talking to people in the squares and what they would tell us was in the past i wouldn't be sitting next to someone for example from the north from the mount. intenser from the south this has brought us together breaking down the sectarian barriers that political parties have placed they've made a scary. scary for they made us be afraid of of one another in order for them to justify their or their power and this is why the political parties are are fearful of the 1st protest movement because what people are calling
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for is an overhaul of the system it's not just about bringing down a government not just about. you know bringing down the parliament. changing the system where there are quote does for example the president has to be a christian america i christian the prime minister has to be a sunday the house speaker has to be a parliament has to be divided between christians and muslims that this is what people want and to they believe this is a system where. politicians have been able to exploit so yes this is what's new in this very very rare almost fairly unprecedented where you find people rising up against their sectarian leaders within traditional strongholds that's was what we saw in october and that was what was so different about this this movement for people who are just been joining us of course this is live these
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if these pictures coming to you from by route as you can see there in the corner the police now in place and they've been moving forward of moving back trying to disperse these protesters just again for those who might be just joining us and to refresh on what we've seen so far zinah tell us again about the strength of this protest with how close they have got to the pall of the building the numbers of people that we've seen and just how different this particular approach. ok you know the others you've seen. more violent definitely more violent than what we have seen yes there have been running battles confrontations that lasted for hours in central beirut last weekend a few nights this week as well but. this violence we have not seen in this determination on the part of the protesters to keep coming back they're playing cat
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and mouse with the anti-riot police as you can see heavily armed with grenade launchers. ok and you have people you can hear protesters screaming that i cannot take my children to a hospital to get the treatment that we need some because of the politicians. would be out on and he's addressing what he's addressing the security forces calling them my nation please stand with us so he's trying to appeal to the security forces to take to the side of the people very chaotic scenes that the central beirut. anti-riot police trying to contain. difficult actually to march which is paused there from other duties to speak. that particular pro times to that particular town just to see he said wait
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a minute wait a 2nd. now that on that just. i'm sorry in this chaos like find the cameraman apologise that no no no no no yes no no and no need to apologize just wall while you're doing that ok we want to do or not. ok ok ok hold on come come ask why did i miss any of this that we met you yesterday why are you here where here i go is our voices haven't heard yet why this by this corrupt parliament by this corrupt government during the broken us into sacks and groups of religious groups and they killed us during the same warlords took over the government and they've robbed us now after $100000000000.00 in debt our banks are closed we cannot import goods these people 400 days into this almost audited survey you shouldn't these people haven't listened we're
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here to tell that by you know the you know what point of defense for base corrupt as you can tell these officers these are brothers and sisters which i love them to stop stop the killing i have produced stuff you already guessed here gas on them well telling them we're with you on this looks like this corrupt regime are you going to have us and you probably won't even when i have the lines at the beginning of the hour rising he is feeling that i was gone i man. but i did this and. oh yes. that's it. but you think that. it's an accent. that's not. if you can actually stand the anger the anger is escalating to try and
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settle on not convince the security forces not to anderson back down on anti-establishment protesters who have been trying to storm parliament building. oh yes and he's trying he's telling the security forces that those politicians are corrupt. no. i'm. saying that. they have no other choice those and politician you see but the still they're not building 11 on. you know the. beirut says straits rubbish everywhere. the policy the sea is polluted the banks have closed businesses have closed. oh well he's telling the security forces to continue with this revolution and
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russian law to. go back on you know what the hero is how you do what is right out of one of those young boys are our brothers they have dignity. i want an end to this when you have a child a young daughter so do i let them let us raise them together. you know and that was with them and those are our brothers too not to open fire on those are our brothers . you know what they want to go to school and. then you have children you have sons. daughters. feel with us how this is now to. the people. and you are you are defending those in power. these are revolutionaries who have moved to the right you see what they want to live in the country and their nation i wish i got a lot of it was we are in pain. and i know what you know.
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and we love lebanon look you know. what. we have been. and our savings. levanon will not be humiliated. we want to go after the corrupt politicians who robbed me and robbed you as i sat and sun as the. horses are hearing out their warders moving forward on the protesters yes they're carrying or they are yes they are carrying out their orders at the end of the day these are men who rely on their salaries just like any other public sector employee is. this is a very divided country we talk about a few 100 protesters here and yes thousands of people are are supporting the
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protest movement but there are other lebanese who are watching these scenes and. basically. standing on the other side believing that this will only lead to chaos and that will lead to further instability and many people fear about the future of the country this is a country. where people are armed so far unlike in iraq live ammunition has not been used. there have been confrontations security forces use rubber bullets water cannons tear gas they have beaten up protesters and anti establishment protesters have been using stones sticks water bottles anything that they can find to suspend themselves and to fight and also to fight so i would just pause there you have been it's been a difficult situation being right in the middle of this obviously but for those watching what we're seeing here pictures live from beirut approaches that has been
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underway for over an hour now increasingly aggressive increasingly violent by broke through the barricades at one point as a holder every quarter pointed out they've got about as close. this is 100 metres to the parliament building we've seen water cannon and tea gas being used to punch the protesters back and these are images live now of the riot police who have been brought in to try to put an end to this protest and we've also heard the anger from people from so appealing to the riot police to stand with them to not move on the protesters saying. that that angry and that they've been let down by the political leaders it was really interesting. if you go to the position to come back to us we can see right there more tear gas being fired into those protesters it was very interesting to hear the 1st protest of that you spoke to the university graduate saying that he's a marketing graduate he doesn't have
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a job he calculate job that pays him what he should be paid and he says protesting peacefully won't get the result but just don't believe that the politicians are going to listen to. know they have lost trust in the state they've lost trust and faith in the politicians there are many. cases like that protester who have graduated from university they cannot find jobs and if they do find jobs they're not well paid the people are suffering it's very expensive very expensive a country the high cost of living and really the breaking point the breaking point in mid october when reports started to circulate that the government planned to tax what up calls which should be a free service and when lebanese heard bought it really cost
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a lot of anger and they took to the streets because telephone telephone bills are so high one of the highest really in the world so this was the only service that they could year was especially when especially that so many people have family. and friends living abroad and so that was like the straw that broke the camel's back that forces people to take to the streets in the beginning of the uprising let me give you another example people found out that the parking meters public parking the money was not going to the state for 10 years the beirut municipality was not reaping the revenues of public parking instead it was going to a private company which was linked to a politician so those parking meters were destroyed vandalized and seventies no longer pay for public parking in beirut so people when they can and when it is possible they have taken their own decisions on on on how they want to deal with the state there has been talk about the possibility of civil disobedience it still
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has not happened but as anger grows and as anger escalates it's not clear how things will pan out how will the government of has which was only formed 24 hours ago respond to this confrontation how will will he try to again reach out to the people what he has been trying to do since. since announcing his his government is trying to convince the people that he is going to work for their benefit and that he will fulfill their demands and that he will fight corruption but the response from the street has been how can your ministers do the odds when they have been appointed by the politicians who we want investigated will those specialists stand up to those politicians in power and open investigations. on alleged corruption cases. zinah i was really
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interested in something he said a little bit earlier as well because we've been discussing the sectarian nature of the country and obviously the sectarian make up of the of the palm and i think one of the protests is as well raise questions about the sectarian ism inside the protest movement it has been united and there has been a. man secretary to disagree a lot of multi sectarian approach to this but he use seeing that there may be splits emerging in the protests and perhaps that is fueling some of the anger that we're seeing as well. it's not a split as much as it is a community that feels marginalized and this is not new this has been a feeling for some time now those in power the ruling alliance is led by. parties hezbollah and amal as well as the president michel aoun who is the son in
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law is the foreign minister and who heads the christian party the free patriotic movement the prime minister has differences with the foreign minister accusing the other side of surfing the powers of of the 70s so you see because the state is divided along sectarian lines power is divided among the different sects there is a feeling among some is that they have been robbed of their rights and that when the ruling alliance which in party's name some the prime minister has who doesn't have the support of the saddle high levy who heads the largest sunday bloc in parliament and more importantly who doesn't have the support of diarrheal fatwa which is the suddenly religious establishment in lebannon then you will hear some some news here in lebanon say that we have been marginalized we have been pushed out of government they have taken our powers and that is where the danger lies
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because as much as this protest movement is about change in a new leadership when a certain sect feels cheated and robbed of its rights then the possibility of a political crisis becoming sectarian in nature is there it has happened in the past it has happened many times but lebanon has pulled back from the brink since the end of the civil war the question is will it do so this time around. that remote remind you of what we're seeing on the screen these protests now being running for well all of a an hour our reporters zinah holder says the most aggressive the most violent that she's seen that began earlier than she has seen before these protests came on the day that the new cabinet had met to discuss a way forward through the economic crisis that is gripping the country the protesters in ukraine on the streets now for months and demanding a complete overhaul.

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