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of conflicts and disputes still the mark it was the hands of the 2 parties have to negotiate directly with them selves in older to reach a solution that is all right and they accepted by both parties as negotiations are the minimum to be done in this regard to the minimum is to negotiate directly face to face the solution cannot be imposed cannot be dictated that's why if the americans think the borders have been drone this is completely wrong we need to start negotiations on the right basis that put in the mind the aspirations of the requests of both parties or even the minimum rights of both parties
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and we have had rounds and rounds and rounds of talks suddenly goes chasen's and we have in our brain as a growed lions of the solution putting in my day into national load the bases of justice and fairness negotiations all of these debates will be the only way for a lasting solution given the challenges imposed on our side by the american plan will. help the palestinians to work hard in order to feel. that gabs in their national policy in the end work and they will work hard to kill all the gods and to have you only fired vision that will come one sate what happens during the last 13 years.
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there is no division you must go for the challenges out of phase in all of us and the palestinians cannot face these challenges while they are divided there is a sort of good science a positive sign for a unified palestinian stand and you rexona see the arab public opinion one stood day to see a unified palestinian stand thank you very much for all of you i mean you know thank you mr secretary general he's with us president mahmoud abbas as we. talk to you. in the name of the law. or mighty and prayers be upon the prophet
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muhammad peace be upon him. and his companions and his followers. you wrexham see. the secretary general of the arab league rexona see terman of the missing the council. peace be upon you. we asked for this extraordinary emergency meeting and we thank you all for being here because we need to discuss the american plan and we need to tell you about the palestinian understanding of such a plan and the future move of the palestinians to face this plan the consequences of this plan and we have not
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to accept this plan and we need not this plan to be a reference point for any future talks with need to be based on the arab initiative and the international legitimacy at the very beginning i would like to convey my greetings to our people everywhere because the people whose free people is everywhere are really rejecting this century dean. also like to. give you a summary of our relations with the american administration. or in an accurate manner the. american administrations relation with the senior cause you know the
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bell for. and we have heard a lot about this like he to stress so important points one. this. belfour promise was not only from the u.k. it is a promise from the u.k. and the americans in the full. meaning of the word which means there was a full called the nation between great britain and their time and between the united states regarding every word mentioned in this balfour declaration so we can say they are not to the states of america is the sponsor of the main sponsor of the balfour declaration the 2nd point. america has insisted to
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put this balfour declaration. in the charter. of the u.n. . and to be put as well. in. their mandate declaration of palestine which means that this will go on in all the to achieve completely such a declaration with all its i had terms and this has happened we need to put our mind that they're not their states at that time you was not. at all will a member in the league of nations. now let's go to the birth of the collaboration. that. loued it
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to to main points the 1st point is the. national cum trade for the jews in palestine the 2nd point is. to give. these residents without mentioning who are they and where they are coming from in on this land civil rights and religious rights. i remember that and say that in order to go back to the trump plan. for 7 and religion's rights and then. days. after days we have this really state and we have seen the palestinians in every
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corner of the world with the future then we had the p.l.o. and i would not mention a lot about this. and when we see the kuwait nakba. the occupation of kuwait in 1980 according to this incident russia and america. asked for conference for peace in madrid and then it was trans fat to washington to be under the sponsorship of only the united states of america it has been no longer an international conference but as a conference convened on hosted and sponsored by america then for
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2 years we have made things in washington that were not for root for at all. this particular time while there every one is giving blind eye to the whole situation we see said down with israelis and we discussed our issues together and we negotiated for 8 months and. you will say that these dogs have never been declared or known even by america this is for history. because america doesn't know about our talks we had good talks. so. these talks. behind the back of america and resulted in the so-called all slow
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agreement if you go now through the oslo agreement which is that an agreement for certain period and we compare this also agreement with the a crumb plan we will see something that is beyond logic. the same is that 92 percent of the palestinians land for our sea for them and then 8 percent to be negotiated. jerusalem to be negotiated. refugees to be negotiated security to be negotiated and there was an agreement. to come during 5 years time to put an end. to these and to lead
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a fire in the saluted the guarantees the rights of the palestinian. based on 2 for 2 and 338 reason lucian's. robin has been assassinated. and then the matter went for ever. a matter as been ignored. remember the current israeli prime minister is the one who rejected the all slow agreement and he holds. who was at a certain point of time an israeli prime minister. he was killed rabin was killed. and negotiations stopped discussions start because that seized the matter there netanyahu doesn't believe in peace
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we cannot sit on the aisle doesn't want peace no not that he doesn't believe in peace. and he spent. more years as the israeli prime minister more than anyone else in israel with our would achieve any progress during the 3 errors a reins of netanyahu no rug. has been the chief in the peace process. and when you hold almost became the prime minister in israel for yes we at cheve a lot of progress and i can claim that we have achieved 70 percent of the understanding of the agreement on the edges the fire in the state has we have agreed with netanyahu with almost
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about 70 percent on these issues. and are you was going to meet him one day in his house then told b. oh go back home and mr rubb as the man is now in prison. this is what has happened between us and the israelis since or slow but glad to add that if america was there. american knew about the last 2 agreement the market will be destroyed altogether. but thank god if i could say that america doesn't know about these negotiations that's why we have or we had the all slow agreement rabin.
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couldn't talk to. merica that has established this country. so he had talked with the prime minister. as well christopher. in june in may. and he told him. no one's to hire yet i can not hide then the think when you hey we negotiate with the palestinians just to see we can achieve any progress with them. i don't want to talk about him but he cannot understand the idea and then he told him who was. leading the talks the answer was simple raised as an answer was let the
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boys play as if we are playing but the reality is when we signed him principal this agreement rabin talked to him and told him i'd like you to know that we have signed the agreement he said which agreement you serious and we the americans we don't know who told him yes. he said i told you so was when did you tell me. and the most important thing in this regard was the american and america was angry and america tried to find a pretext i wait. in order to. keep it surprise. the biggest superpower and being the sponsor of everything in the
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world so how dare they can reach an agreement without america being involved. i do we find a way for them sort of a way for them just to pretend that they are. involved and doctorow someone baz the political advisor to the president of egypt he had. a proposal from the american side just to save the face of america or some of the better said they'd negotiated when. they had the agreement of holding to an american proposal sense of their time i am america has not made things through america we haven't made any at chief mentor any progress
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and the manager has sayed. one problem came to power i'm an elected president. and here i'd like to mention something to you mention something very important. during the just a few weeks before the exit of obama and the entrance of trump there was a resolution in the security council. and this little lucian has been adopted. here. but at the america that time was the country who formulated that this illusion secretly i'm telling you with this for the 1st time i don't want obama to be upset but this has
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happened in agreement with britain. and this is allusion. which is precious the most precious new solution is it better to go to council since as to establishment when it comes to the palestinian cause one trump came to power the 1st thing he made is to ignore such a resolution here refused to deal with this lizza lucian. i made him 4 times. the american delegation comes and goes like 37 times to meet our delegations and all of these 37 meetings really have resulted in nothing so
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my 4 meetings with trump the 1st in washington and wish it was in a way good meeting because trump looked like he is a good listener. and he praised while i have said the 2nd meeting in. the 3rd meeting in saudi arabia the 4th meeting was in new york. and here i won't talk about the meeting in new york a formal meeting to form a delegation. i asked him mr president. do you think of the 2 state solution he said yes i agree and that is the clear right now one of his boys told him mr president but to de lay this matter now he said ok ok.
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he listened to his voice with the delegation 2nd point what's about the region and he said you have the is jerusalem i said sign 67 borders he said i agree i said swabs and he said ok. then if you want one centimeter i would give would force him to give you one point harsh centimeter what about this guilty he said i'm ready i have the nato i have the forces and they started giving the orders to send forces to the palestinian territories i felt. that. there put us in a shoe for half an hour. i told him mr president. for telling you what's. in my mind i speak out my mind.
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had one believe she was not in the use of weapons in this generation we are proud weapons 486773. so i believe. that we don't need weapons we need. our state we need to have our people living in security and stability. and mr president don't believe in weapons and that's why. when. my policy. state to. be demilitarized. i know some brothers might not accept that but i believe in that and i believe that during these years and the coming days
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weapons will not be useful. and he asked me why. i said it's better not to buy a tank. it's better to build a school. better than buying i will plane. which is to build a hospital i need my people to live in security and he said oh yeah good at the word of the name you are a terrorist you are a man of peace we will have a peaceful agreement next time you will come and you will talk and we will continue our conversation later are you was very optimistic that time i was hoping of having a peaceful agreement. to months later. with. out any warning he close our office in washington. and he
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declared. that they unify you journalism in the united you doesn't and is the capital of israel and that he withdraws fair his embassy to jerusalem and here close upon other countries to transfer their embassy to jerusalem. here start the aid. he used to show. off for us aid for projects and other things around $840000000.00. he starts paying on raw. never stopped helping the hospitals. why yes they said this is the president's policy. we talked something different they said
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this is the president's policy so. not immediately when we decided to buy control ations with the american administration and with the white house. but. we kept some contacts with the cia why. i'm talking to you frankly and openly i don't have secrets anymore i mean we cooperate with 83 countries in the world to fly terrorism and we believe that really and truly in fighting terrorism internally or internationally the only types and kinds of terrorism. that's why. there are $83.00 protocols between us and $83.00 countries including the united states of america so we kept our contacts with the cia to see what's going on. in
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real contacts with the congress. and these contacts with the congress have resulted in a good voices a month or 2 months ago there was a decision. from the congress was refusing to saying from pompei all regarding. these settlements. this has happened for the 1st time so ok we said we will build on this and now now we are building on this and now. we will see democrats and republicans whom will serve us again as the trump plan because they all reject their trauma.
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and i'm not going to say as secret that our contacts with the cia. indicated that they supported our staff so. this was. a matter between us and between america and then years of we were shocked and surprised off with this deal when he declared such a deal they called last year and they said of the president wants to send you the deal to read it. as if. come on i'm someone coming from from another world it's my i should there should be a deal i should be the 1st part not to take part you send me the deal to read it i
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said no i'm not going to even receiving this. a week later they said the president want to talk to you trump i said no i don't want to talk to trump they called me 10 times on that said i am not talking to trump. trump wants to send you a message i said no no messages from from n y like this. because when he talked about jerusalem he called me the 1st time and his said i'd like to and this is the resident i said what is it i want to our next president book you will be having a lot of good other things of that he was hanging up. i didn't even hear anything else and then he said i have consulted with several miles and which is not true when i refused to receive the plan when i refused to receive the
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message there's one out of fuse these code because you know that he will say i have consulted with my eyes and i have consulted with the policy without the grief and the accept i know you come to believe in me and to say that trump the superpower is. telling lies. everyone tell me hey you have consulted with trump they you told me this because trump said i have consulted with him as a summer i believe has told me trump has said that you agreed me never. he consulted with him never and this was the situation and that's why i refused to receive anything from him no contacts no messages nothing has happened between me and trump recently.
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and. a lot of stuff no you have. read this de has been published so. no secrets anymore you know everything about this deal ha i. remember the night the drizzling is the capital of israel. time and space the visions of a lock so what does it me seems to the volume. like. for the muslims and your for them in the last one and the one man wrote the locks the temple mount together yakin whom they will pray. in a certain little child. at the inn of the mosque in rome
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and if friday is the day were they supposed to pray then they would play on friday and we know. they also said that much the capital of israel is your residence you remember that they have to say that much you know capitalism doesn't them and one i have saved. is dawn and the man. this when he said engineer is a living he means something else i would even defs. for the result is. they want to believe to be a capital or a village. one amongst the so many villages of jerusalem. everything applied in 67 is not according to them.
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6.5000000 refugees forget about them and for that. we have left polystyrene how. are you was one of those who left. i remember. in 48 who were among the 950. 1000 if you g.'s. g.'s. have nothing. but. who came to israel from the arab countries should be compensated for their properties that if a jew goes from yemen or iran or egypt or syria or lebanon or
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marocco or the other maghreb then these governments have to become ponce uses full of those jews. you can imagine. it also talked about 92 percent. of the to the prison for us for the palestinians and 8 percent because of some settlements will be negotiated. and we have hundreds of settlements. now they took 30 percent. all of the west bank of the west bank these all palestinians as. it was to make can get 22 percent of the historical palestine and we accepted with the 22 percent we accepted that we
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accepted this arme fairness but our 3rd this is not accepting us on thursday wants us to accept them we accept 22 percent now they want to take 30 percent of the 22 percent 30 percent out of the 22 percent this is palestine a lot of this is palestine in 1948. this is 47 this is 48. or 22 percent now with gaza. he added today it is this challenge any one of you who can who can even see. if we said to had 21st year of.
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