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you came here to distract from us and a willingness to negotiate to sit down to speak you can ask him when the last time you met our prime minister benjamin netanyahu in the last decade they met only once how many times by the bass came to speak here in the to go to council in the general assembly why to come hold the way here or not to drive the jewels on them or the prime minister will drive to a mullah is trying to blame the lack of progress towards peace on israel complaining instead of leading that is not leadership that was either way when he took office and that to be making these way today in this year or with the fall here is a term for the entire bus claims that he wants sovereignty for the palestinian people but i've done everything to avoid receiving it if the wards are nothing but
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lip service is called for sovereignty longer goal became a battle cry why though than an actual goal do the wary to keep the conflict alive are they mention in the last decade not even one meeting on the other hand over 150 un with allusions concerning the palestinians have passed during that time that seem like a reasonable balance if you feel about peace there were meetings with your negotiating power no in over 100 and fiftie you enter with the russians if you've only reasonable if you have no intention of negotiating mr president it must be noted that president abbas of rejectionism have been encouraged by many
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in the international community if not with the awards then by their actions. voting in favor of one sided with allusions only further encourages his behavior many of you are fallen into the habit of trying to force the outcome of negotiations before they even began you had the other 3 conditions that they rarely contradict previous agreements between the sides for example if where in the p. a previously agreed internationally indoors that we meant that the border will only be determined through day of act and by a lot of our negotiations yet still some of you against this explicit agreement to write to either precondition that future borders must be negotiated based on the so-called 967 lines let's negotiate with you when you tell him that
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will be the outcome it will not enter the room that what we are doing here why should you negotiate with us when you are negotiating for him negotiation when you enter the room and you come with your demands and you negotiate that's what we did with president sadat that's what we did with king hussein inshallah god the real bear that i share that will do with the palestinians one day but that real negotiations when president about thiis that if bottles are being followed for him and there is no need for him to negotiate or agree to mutual compromises it makes peace in every mall remote possibility meeting here once again to criticize israel and the u.s. for their efforts to promote peace does not increase the likelihood of president abbas the green to negotiate either it would be best if the international community
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focal city's efforts on bringing both sides to the negotiating table mr president. it is also time to reconsider the international community the porridge to solving this conflict it is clear that something in the current approach is not walking president abbas spread the lies in order to mislead the international community into believing that is desired solution to the conflict is the only solution in fact he just did so today however all previous attempts to peace have been based on the same principles and dog mothers all of these attempts of failed albert einstein once said and he defined insanity as doing this thing thing over and over and expecting different results president tramp's plan takes us sane
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a porch to solving this conflict it understands that we have to try dancing different maybe it will work this time i bet it is of the plan if they did overachieving jaf then lasting peace between israel and the palestinians however were disciplined differently even if used to accept this same out of date concept of previous peace plans this plan of the few others to accept that the only way to solve the conflict it with a formula that has failed for over 70 years of the plenary prevents the requirement of a realistic approach that is not afraid to incorporate innovative ideas to address the concerns of both parties it represents the necessity of a pragmatic approach you know order to solve a complex problem even if one in a know many of you even if one has criticism of the specific of the plan you should
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still embrace it spirit a spirit that saves it is time to look for a new and problematic approach to solving this conflict. their plans drafters of said themselves that the plan is only a suggestion a tool for their side to use in their negotiations it is clear that some of you are beginning to embrace the spirit of the plan that is why you have used the opportunity presented buried released to call on president abbas to negotiate thank you for that by president abbas refuses to be pragmatic it refuses to negotiate is not interested in finding a valid solution to the conflict mr president let's not beat around the bush progress toward peace will not be made of long as president abbas remains the new position this is a reality only when he steps down in israel and the palestinians move forward
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a little to the rejection is him incitement and glorification of terror can never be a real partner for real peace mr president even have embrace the new innovative spirit of president found plan and that they agreed to use it as a starting point for negotiations we thank president and his team for their dedication to the cause of peace either they'll it's criticized in this room or their regular basis but despite the lies and their purpose see we are determined to fight for peace we have always been a willing to negotiate we have offered president abbas opportunities to begin negotiations many times. but the response remains the same and you can ask
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him when you meet him later today why even 2 willing to meet with us is response is always no. 32 only the other week i found the end times no beef either core aspect of our belief or the jewish way of life. you take a little blood unity to tell president abbas the speeches here at the un cannot replace the regular goshi ations. president abbas that. you choose peace thank you very much mr president. in a listening there to the israeli representative at the u.n. security council danny danon in response to the palestinian president mahmoud abbas is. mr dunne in their very critical of the idea that president abbas was interested
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in peace after all saying that if abbas was interested in peace he wouldn't be here he also underlined that a pragmatic approach is needed and the israeli position from that speech would appear to be that the trump middle eastern deal is such a pragmatic approach she also pointed to the fact that. appear to like peace will not be possible if mahmoud abbas remains the palestinian president's meanwhile just to recap what we heard there from the palestinian president mahmoud abbas appealed to israelis not to give up on finding a lasting peace with the palestinians. i've come before you today to say that he's between israelis and palestinians is still possible it is achievable i've come to you to build an international partnership to achieve
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a just comprehensive and lasting peace and we are still committed to this peace as a strategic choice. well we have 4 correspondents covering every science of this story stephanie decker is in west jerusalem monitoring is really reaction the to him is in gaza i force is standing by in ramallah with the view of the palestinians but let's speak 1st or diplomatic editor james bays is at the u.n. for as james said just listening to those speeches seems everyone wants peace but it's just it's over reach one of the main takeaways for you listening to those 2 submissions to the u.n. security council. well it was interesting hearing both sides and listening to some of the detail of what they were saying 1st i think worth listening to the u.n. secretary general who we heard before you joined us live with the coverage he didn't mention the trump plan once which i think is telling in his very short
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speech the u.n. still sit sitting on its existing position which is they wanted 2 state solution on the 1967 borders and then further negotiation from them and that pretty much is the palestinian position. and president sounded at one point very desperate saying the palestinian people just need hope he had with him some maps he had a meeting map of the trump plan he said it was a swiss cheese of a state that was being offered he had another map which showed the situation on the ground at various points over the last 70 years and how the green palestinian territory on that map got smaller and smaller this is all part of the palestinian fight back against the trunk plan with meetings that took place at in karo the arab league the african union in at a suburb or now at the u.n. security council but it's worth telling you this has not played out the way the palestinians wanted and it's worth noting speaking right now is the deputy
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ambassador of tunisia what was going on behind the scenes for the last couple of weeks was to newsier the current arab member of the u.n. security council is working with the palestinians along with some other islamic states notably indonesia to try and come up with a resolution the idea was to have a big vote at this meeting to show that the whole world apart from america was on the side of the palestinians those efforts went very badly they produced a draft an early draft of their resolution the americans didn't like it at all i'm told by security council members that jerad push to himself phoned up tunis i believe he spoke. the president what exactly he said isn't clear but at that point the chin as you know ambassador monsour party was fired from his job as a result of that there is no resolution being put to this meeting there is no vote so this certainly doesn't have the punch that the palestinians were hoping well
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mcquade see it was quite striking during the what that person speech when he did list all the countries he says had back them he listed all the countries who disagreed with the trump proposal and gets the palestinians have not been able to bring anything concrete see the table are they listen momentum in this fight against the imposition of the so-called prime where on earth to the palestinians go from here. it's a very difficult situation and i think that's why he's talking about a loss of hope i think the palestinians and their allies may or misplayed their hand certainly the early draft of their resolution was so critical of the trump plan and i think that is what got the are of the americans force the americans to ring up the 2 news ins for citizens to sack their own bassinet but i think also what it did is cause some concern among some of the other security council
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countries and i think what the palestinians didn't want is to put a resolution to a vote and actually have not just the americans on one side but quite a few countries abstaining it was pretty clear to me that the u.k. would've abstained if this is come to a vote based on the draft that we'd seen and it's possible some of the other e.u. countries would have been there as well in an abstention rather than supporting the palestinians and i think for that reason the palestinians decided for now to pull the vote they say negotiations will continue but i do wonder whether we'll ever see this vote on this particular issue ok james space for now thank you let's get a reaction now from gaza on cross to harry for said harry there were a fairly desperate plea from the palestinian president there what are people in gaza likely to take from this meeting at the u.n. . well i think there will be varied opinions depending on on factional legion says
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and other things i think a lot of people here though will be concentrating on the difficulties of daily life which would continue unabated in terms of this event though there was a demonstration here as there was in the occupied west bank earlier in the day several 1000 people on the streets most of the factions represented not hamas not islamic jihad but the that the core factions of the p.l.o. were. chief among them of course fatah as far as hamas which controls the gaza strip is concerned it called for several things from mahmoud abbas in his speech it wanted an end to security cooperation between the p.a. and the israelis it wanted. to be dissolved essentially for mahmoud abbas to pull out of the oslo accords and for him to unleash what's i must refer sewers as resistance fighters in the occupied west bank as well i think there's
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probably fairly little expectation that that would actually happen in this speech certainly the p.a. that mahmoud abbas his office has made it clear that security of corporation is on the table to be taken away but only in the event of actual physical moves to put israeli sovereignty into the settlements in the occupied west bank and start an exciting territory if that were to happen is the threat that is the point at which security cooperation would be taken away as far as the hamas position is concerned it's also worth noting that hamas is itself involved in at least mediated negotiations with the israelis through the egyptians an egyptian delegation was in town on monday trying to quell some of the rocket fire and incendiary balloon launches that have been going from here into his. the territory with israeli air strikes coming back in response there are reports that there has been
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a pause on that as a long term truce still is trying to be to be negotiated between israel and hamas ok have a force that their life as in gaza for now i thank you let's get the reaction from inside from the other side of the coin stephanie decker is in west jerusalem for us stephanie there quite a robust response from the israeli ambassador to the united nations very bullish claiming that the palestinians do not in fact want peace was the feeling from the israelis when it comes to this so they all feel square behind this trump proposal. well it depends what side of politics you're on whether you agree with that or not that is and on the his words not new they've always maintained his readies have always maintained that the palestinians are no an honest partner for peace it is
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a dialogue a back and forth that we've heard for years done on there saying you know if you were really serious you wouldn't be here at the united nations you would be in jerusalem starting to negotiate if you don't like the plan negotiate what do israelis think well you know the right way and don't agree with the plan because they call it fathom the idea of a palestinian state at all whatever shape it might be in debt is in on there referring to a new approach saying that people had to respect this plan for being. no longer being outdated trying a new new track however of course what he mentioned what he's referring to there is what the palestinians and also what various united nations security council resolutions have stated which is about a scene state along the $167.00 lines with these truths and as its capital what israel is saying of course we are charging towards a 3rd elections in ears so what prime minister benjamin netanyahu remember standing together with donald trump at the white house when they announced this planet all this looked like
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a victory ceremony to rule to supporters and right away these really prime minister said that he would start the process of the next ation of settlements in the west bank so this is something of course that the palestinians take massive issues with before any negotiations before any deal is reached there is this this atmosphere let's say that this is something that can be looked at and will be done after these elections so again i think not new that you have polar opposite of the palestinians of the israelis we've been here before it is a constant cycle of rebuttals and i think again going back to our present mood about said he said yes we want peace but we don't want the americans to be the main media age or this we want to go. back to the middle east quartet that is united states yes but it's also the e.u. and russia and the united nations and then we're going to have to wait and see how that's going to unfold but again i think at the moment we haven't been any closer any further away to any sort of deal that we've been in
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a very long time ok stephanie decker joining us live from west jerusalem thank you very much indeed well the palestinian president of course referenced that swiss cheese over country that swiss cheese proposal let's head across to ramallah and i were needs or ibrahim is standing by those words from the palestinian president would have resonated is of course over in ramallah just how will people be viewing this. in the u.n. because it seems we have been hearing very similar things arguments along similar lines and yet no step forwards no calls or any kind of resolution for the palestinian people who are scattered far and why it's. this is what we've heard from many palestinians who are protesting this morning and they came from different cities towns villages in the occupied west bank to voice their support for the
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president's speech and to also protest against the trum plan they say that they've been promised for years they've hard united nations security council resolutions condemning for example the illegal israeli settlements in the occupied west bank among other things and then not any one resolution they say has been implemented on the ground so you see palestinians hoping that the world will pay attention to what's going on the expansion of settlements in particular as well as the moving of the u.s. embassy and acknowledging jerusalem as a capital for israel but in the on the ground they don't seem to be holding so much hope ok a speech here a speech there is good for a diplomatic on a diplomatic level but if you ask palestinians on the street they would tell you that they're not really hopeful that their reality on the ground is going to change and we've seen the president point to freeze we've been hearing a lot lately the swiss cheese which is talking about the growth of these settlements in the occupied west bank limiting connectivity and limiting any
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contiguous future palestinian state so this is something that palestinians view it's very alarming they think that the israelis are already moving forward with the plan that it's that what the u.s. has done really is just put facts on the ground on a piece of paper and called it and place it as a peace plan ok abraham there live for us in ramallah thank you so much for bringing us the perspective from their fears just joining us we have been listening to speeches given at the u.n. security council from president mahmoud abbas of the palestinians and of course israel's ambassador to the u.n. mahmoud abbas had said he is willie. to support peace the palestinians are willing to support peace but the trump plan does not in any way constitute a just peace and he said the palestinians were willing and ready to negotiate
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fairly however the israeli ambassador slams mahmoud abbas over what he says is a lack of sincerity when it comes to finding peace if president abbas was do is about to go she ations he wouldn't be here today he would be enjoy the limb in washington don't fit in down with the negotiating power know what we're going to use not serious about negotiations about peace let's get more now from our one bashar al jazeera senior political analyst has been listening in to the u.n. joins us now live from london it's everywhere this marwan everybody wants peace it seems and yet it's remains elusive. yes. look i mean the problem with of course reporting on on 2 such speeches at the united nations is that one needs of course a quick crack checking and the fact that president abbas went at length to
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underline his and his authority is commitment to peace and to of course once again give us a whole long record of his commitment to that peace and in fact defend the authorities record a number of things they've been accused of by israel and the united states including the question of corruption the question of missing opportunities for peace on the question of combating terrorism and so on and so forth and when you look at the bus a speech you can you can say it's weak you can say it's naive you can say it's the repetitive you can't say he's been lying. and you certainly cannot say as the israeli ambassador claimed that president abbas not only insincere but this honest and spread slice and glorifies terrorism that's anything but what president abbas has done in this speech or in his record for the last 25 years so why we need to
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report and of course as we just did heard both speeches in full there is no doubt hala that for the israeli ambassador to say about shouldn't be here should be of their own sort of that was dishonest to compare them to said that and can jordan that was dishonest because if anyone has been negotiating with israel for a quarter of a century and who reached several agreements around 10 agreements with israel is over the last quarter of a century is that we're not implemented by the israelis why the israelis continue to expand settlements is mahmoud abbas abu mazin who spoke to us that they have the united nations so yes we have 2 speeches yes we are tired of the same slogans and of the same history but yes one of them was sort of more sincere one of them i would say of israeli ambassador was quite dishonest and deceptive ok but one thing
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the israeli ambassador dates point side which would perhaps be hard to argue with is that the. the current solutions aren't working he said a pragmatic approach is needed and a new approach is needed it's inarguably that is ford's trum the americans have done they've ripped up the previous approaches and said this is the new reality let's try this difference approach. yes absolutely. this is very much like saying insulin is not working for the b. it is let's prescribe sugar sugar it is probably better for the b. this than insulin look the fact that this has not worked it's because the israelis and the uncovered by the united states make sure that doesn't work because there's an occupying power that's been dictating policies to the weaker party to the occupier part to the palestinians and their record is very clear the expansion of
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settlements the insistence of the occupation and as dan said speeches are not part of the end of the negotiations yes but what he missed is in israel's view negotiations are no alternative to surrender because what the trump plan or what prime minister that video and the the american president are asking of the palestinians is basically to surrender all all of their 5 important rights whether it is the right of return the right of sovereignty and independence the right to freedom from occupation and so on so forth what is also i think important here in this in this regard is that israel has been hiding with behind the united states and what but as the bus tried to do to say today i want to i found quite bizarre to be honest hala is that this is nothing like president trump someone must be playing with his head because the present time i met does not believe that which
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actually leads me to believe that president still has hope that somehow either the quartet that he named the united nations security council that he underlined and spoke to or even the americans might in fact come around and support the international legitimacy as he calls it because in as far as the policy is concerned yes the americans are coming with a new plan but it's like sugar to the beat of well not being a medical expert myself i couldn't endorse one or the author abbott just finally. marwan president abbas when he addressed the united nations he listed all of those who stood with palestine he listed the e.u. countries he listed the chinese and everybody here denies the trump plan and yet he could not muster the support to bring a security council resolution is there any concrete support for the palestinians at this stage or isn't it time for them to just call it a. look this is a very good point it's of also an important point because unfortunately president
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did not give a clear idea of where he or 'd his this in those need to go to because 30 people once again the idea of an international conference of course that a lot of people are not going to sign on to why the united states does not sign on this is basically did that arrival so he's not coming up with anything concrete for the palestinians or for the international community while by this time is really being surrounded occupied and settled nonstop by the israelis and by the united states which leads us to the to the point of what especially the europeans but also others look clearly as you heard from our diplomatic editor at the united nations it's reported that when the tunisians to the only member of the u.n. security council started talking about the new draft those illusion. but until reportedly there are a can president son in low called the tunisian president then had embraced the
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fired it's that degree of bullying that is going on by washington by the top administration against its allies. everyone else in fact especially at the united nations where it's become clear that if you if you cross the united states or as the former you american ambassador to the united nations is nikki haley said we will be taking names so you cannot cross the united needs you know united states you cannot open our plan at best you have to remain silent but even that is not too good we are back to the logic that you are with us or you are against us and hence you can't even get a united nations resolution that simply says we need to respect international law ok martin bashar out life as a nun then thank you. time for the headlines here. on al-jazeera palestine's president says firmly rejected
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donald trump's proposed plan for the region speaking at the u.n. security council mahmoud abbas trumped plan won't bring peace or stability to the region and he appealed to israel not to give up on finding lasting peace. i've come before you today to say that peace between israelis and palestinians is still possible it is achievable i've come to you to build an international partnership to achieve a just comprehensive and lasting peace and we are still committed to this peace as a strategic choice. but in his response israel's ambassador to the u.n. slammed the palestinian president over what he says is his lack of sincerity in a bid to find peace. within the battle serious about the girl she asian he wouldn't be here today would be enjoy the limb or in washington don't feeling down with negotiating power know what we're going to use not serious about negotiations or about peace in other years turkey's president is warning of swift revenge of its
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troops in syria continue to be attacked his comments come a day after his military said it killed $101.00 syrian government soldiers in retaliation for the deaths of 5 turkish soldiers and choose the opposition forces shot down a syrian government helicopter as it received a village in england province tensions have been heightened and syrian government forces or forces advance on the last pockets of opposition held territory and the number of people killed by the throat of virus has passed 1000 chinese officials announced another 109 deaths the biggest single day jump since the outbreak began in december those are the headlines stay with us and al-jazeera these continues after we wind up next.
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hello and welcome to rewind here in doha as museum of islamic well the 1st story as we covered it was the main ma government's brutal crackdown on peacefully protesting monks news reaching the outside world was guest spots al-jazeera correspondent tony was able to film the unfolding events whilst working undercover as one of the few international journalists on the ground that time from 2000.

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