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mohammed stier palestinian prime minister thank you for talking to al-jazeera you know where i'm going to start i'm going to start with the trump plan what the president of the us called the deal of the century he talked about it 1st 3 years ago and i've been speaking to diplomats and to prominent palestinians they all told me they thought it probably was never going to see the light of day. but did can i ask you what your thoughts were and your feelings when you saw that document for the 1st time well. it was really an insult for everybody where this sort of very long fight for freedom and independence and a sub. on the borders of. which we want to as big compromise so that this sort of west bank about there was only 6000.

6000 kilometer square out of was brazil to be shrinking you'll get a free where that does not give us more than 11 percent of what by this time used to be so bland has been designed in a way language and decks. is 100 votes on israeli proposals even the language that is used we have here a bid from israeli negotiators dori gold and the director general of the israeli ministry of foreign of was on hard saying that he was bought into the plan he advised them on language and some song so the plan or what they call a proposal i think it did a road every possibility for peace between palestinians and israelis he just had to listen to prime minister netanyahu in the white house he was thanking everyone he seemed absolutely delighted this is just what the right wing in israel of always

wanted and if you look at any other plan every other plan since 1988 this gives the palestinians less territory than any of them well the question is why did nothing accept the plan upfront nobody has claimed to have seen the plan if netanyahu was not a co-author of the land then he could have said well give us the time to study it. immediately accepted without and it is their version of the plan because it is his plan secondly or the american proposals really was trying to redesign the whole of the terms of reference for the peace process in accordance with american understanding of the conflict there is no way that i'm at a comparable result canterbury's international law there is no way that american proposal place united nations resolutions since the early days of the conflict the proposals after proposals they have failed really to come up to

a solution because of this sort of continuous bias of the united states though of israel which is something they don't deny because it's what i had united browed to say that we are instructed you to lions with israel and we care about israel's. about is the future about about so if you have bought of the that is supposed to be a 3rd party that is supposed to be an honest broker that is supposed to be an object of many years out of and then 100 percent in poor bios taken measures that is not the proposal they should that they bought that has to do with united as this was implemented even before the proposal was launched that accession of jerusalem the movement of the embassy freezing financial aid to another one to the by the scene or thought of the all these unilateral measures that have been taken by united states it does show that the strategy for the americans was to fully and totally put it by the scene and back to the ward squeeze them that are defeat them

so they surrender so they accept president trump is someone who sees many things in money terms one of the main things the administration is pointing out is that you're going to get a lot of money they say an economic boost of $50000000000.00 that's a huge figure not really. 35000000000 of this supposed to be loans and the rest of it is grants on condition of bases and so on look this is sort of wrong to deal with the palestinians the palestinians need to trade politics for money and he is wrong by listing ends have learned one thing from where jesus christ was born and bred like him it's not with bread ones live only by the sinners they have their dignity and freedom which is more important than alou for bread so to tried to buy your wisdom for a money order and return of some assistance or

a shrinking but as you know geography or subordinate or a right of return to refugees or all of these sort of things and return of the a bunch of dollars this is not what the policy is are looking for stability it brings money and money does not. bring stability let's compare this plan with what was the international consensus since the oslo accords let me quote the un the vision of 2 states israel and palestine living side by side in peace and security on the basis of the pre 1967 lines with jerusalem as the capital of both states let's take those things one by one 1st a palestinian state is this a viable state you can office not 1st of all there is no offer for it but as soon as they can the proposal there is an interstate and that entity is not certain and that is entity is not contiguous and that indeed the it does shut out of the whole

palestinian into zones of of control of that is not connected and you're going to live in where years of those our president said it was a swiss cheese it is the norm it is this was jews where we are the horrors of this was just totally disconnected from each other so that is not as the 2nd the american dream was and speaks about but is seen as have to qualify for about state after 40 years while it does given up any our immediate action today it does give us 40 years took what he 5 for that sort of entity and it didn't put for conditions for that indeed to materialize one that we recognize is that i as a jewish state 2nd we demilitarize gaza and would draw weapons from hamas and so on and thirdly we have to be good guys the question is who's going to see whether we are good or bad they're israelis and the worst part of the story were fully and

daughterly the proposal gives all of your was an end to the israelis and not only that it does take the whole issue of refugees out of the body going to sort of the problem if you don't handle the issue of refugees where there are 7000000 palestinians living and if you do comes and their support if you don't. that it will be it is us that last point i want to mention to you on that but it's dinners in that region have become is their billions is their billing factor look no but as the man is a member of isis nobody's seen him as a member of al qaeda nobody's seen as a member of any terrorist organization and so on and that is very important for the international community to understand that by listing the us to be a stabling factor in the region let me pick up some of the points you've raised there the proposed capital for this palestinian state they say it will be a palestinian state they talk of something called eastern jerusalem this seems to be the other side of the wall that israel built so it's not really east jerusalem

it's east of jerusalem is that your understanding it's worse than that you see that here is about language they try to fool some listeners to say that with its capital in jerusalem any in of some naive politician might understand that own proposal is giving but if he has to have a capital in jerusalem for us the issue is not about the injuries on him for us the issue is that you share rose and him is that that not not abu dis which is that what they're offering you there is a big difference between saying with the euro zone as its capital or with its capital in jerusalem because there was a name has 2 sides there is the city of jerusalem which is only 6 square kilometers which is the old city and the holy bhasin and that is where we consider east jerusalem is the city or we sure as the name and then you have the governor mitt of

jerusalem which includes the villages around the city of jerusalem so when he said it's got to tell in eastern jerusalem it is that if it into one of the little tiny villages which is outside the ward city the 6 kilometers or euro zone m. is an. has been expanded by is that i had to become 65 kilometers and what the americans are proposing that this but is seen in the capital will be even outside the ward bottle of jerusalem which is in one and the worst bar or so is when they said you can choose anywhere and put it puts you know you name any city or any billet and you go to this is that accords this is totally stupid naive proposal that does not fool anybody but as soon as our body that for us is jerusalem is the city of jerusalem let me ask you about another of those issues you raised which is the refugees refugees who fled in the wars in 1967 who went

to lebanon to syria to jordan there is no right of return in this plan that is on offer that i assume makes this a regional problem it is because when you are speaking i want rehabilitation oh but as you know refugees in lebanon and syria and jordan and other bases it's not only about demography it's it's again these palestinians who have been that are with the keys and their hands sort of the houses that they have been pushed out over since $948.00 they have these skis as a symbol of the hope that there will return them or there will be a just solution for their cause when this solution the american are proposing is that you have a vision over of you g.'s and the host countries 1st of all the host countries don't accept 2nd that if you don't accept and thirdly we don't accept their want just to push the problem away from their borders keep it a lebanese problem create

a syrian problem create a jordanian problem which we don't accept and without is why they couldn't with all the pressure they exerted on jordan which i said you would him and legally benny's and the syrians and all nobody has accepted this american proposal visibly that if you g.'s because the whole i. of refugees is that they should there has to be a just solution and jordan has bought into it lieberman has bought into it syria has bought into it egypt is bought to do it that is where the bullets tend to produce art and so therefore just simply to say as if you out of solving the territorial problem with a look at but is seen as in the west bank and gaza this does not sort of the but is seen and problem when the plan was unveiled in the white house 2 leaders came from the middle east the problem was they were both israelis now mr jarrott cushion of the president's son in law who did the negotiations says that's your fault because you didn't take part in the negotiations he now says as you mentioned you have 4 years that you could start negotiations with him and he says and these are his far

from diplomatic words if they don't then they're going to screw up another opportunity like they've screwed up every opportunity that they've ever had in their existence what's your reaction while that look this sort of slogan you know that somebody is the millions never miss an abortion or to thomas an abortion if this is that money was made by about you ban in 169 yes and i don't buy that because we seized every a portrait we were out of we did a huge compromise to accept the fact that we were bought out of the jordanian billy gave him in 1991 in the madrid conference we have accepted to negotiate with israel and conditionally we negotiated with this guy and even when they did not freeze george supplements we negotiated with the president with president graham we negotiated with president obama we negotiated with president bush the son we

negotiated with president bush the father with a client on we have negotiated with every american president when whatever out of their boards and we have a negotiated with this hack share mirror with rabin who would not then yes so why not with him when we negotiated with our president conducted for meetings with the . um and then of the moment where tom has taken unilateral measures that did job would die is the whole issue of final the stuff of negotiations what did the americans do even before launching that the the proposal they did freeze money for the n r one which is totally eliminating the issue of refugees they move the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem and he said that jerusalem is that they're not the capital of the jewish people which means to us that the americans are totally their chick thing the palestinian christian and muslim not the of about euro zone am and allowing a jewish domination of a jewish not of the of domination about euro zone and about all of palestine that's

not acceptable to us as christian and muslim palestinians that we are then big enough people of that country colonize ation claim should not be justified on historical bases or on and it isn't just basis their issue is political is not not a is not religious and that is where we stand solid on the saudi issues what are you going to do when the next thing the trumpet ministration does and we know what it's going to do it signaled already they're not going to wait the 4 year period they've given you to come to negotiations to annex those settlements some around netanyahu telling him to do it right now it'll probably happen as soon as the israeli election is over maybe somebody is seen in the future will stand up to thank him for what he's doing you know why because what the trump is doing he is endangering the security of the state of israel israel will not any more be a democracy which is not anyhow now and has not been before and it will not be in

the future and the israel will not be jewish because look at the demography today if the ambit is missing the border turn at the end here is what the israelis are missing the border trying to be the most important. that the americans and they said it would have messed was that obese initiative which called for normalization of relations with israel and return of israeli withdrawal from all arab territories that has been occupied in 6 or 7 now that look at the demographic dynamic for the 1st time in history since 1948 until today by less the unions are more or less the me and muslims and christians more by 200000 people compared to israeli jews in historical palestine between their part of jordan and mediterranean sea what does this mean it means that israel is a slipping into

a one state reality it means that israel will never be jewish never to be democratic it means that we are going into the south african a zation of the by the scene in question well the result is that i it becomes 100 percent about applied to state by de jure and by de facto some people are saying you should help it on its way you know the argument that the best thing for you to do now would be to dissolve the palestinian authority put yourself under israeli control effectively become one state and legally become the majority in that state is that an option no sir it's not an option because for us the issue is not about this sort of thing the but as you know thought of you there but as usual thought is not a gift by anybody or from anybody but it's general thought of he is the result is an outcome of the sacrifices of the biased in and people what we should do is we should move the thought out there from it being an interim or too many frustration over the authority to become

a state under occupation that is where we should take the things for what one secondly the international community which is a god unto of international law should realize that what the american proposal is and confrontation with international law and that is why by the way but as event has no partners whatsoever. he has no partners in europe he has no partners in the arab countries he has no bar owners and by this time 107 congressman and i mean i salute them who signed a letter to reject and synagogues as well we have had meetings with these people who didn't accept at all who really think that this american brought bohr's a number of wars and is in total confrontation with international legitimacy with international law with united nations resolutions or within the american political arena there is a huge split when it comes with this they didn't accept it you talk a lot about the international community and international law and it's clear that

the geneva conventions the security council resolution there on your side how do you take action where is your redress in the international system because as far as i can see it there are only 2 routes one is the u.n. the u.n. security council and of course of their israel has its trump card the u.s. which will use its veto if you take any action you have the general assembly where you can win a symbolic victory but it has no power on the other option is the international criminal court it's been dragging its feet now it's going to launch an investigation into the situation with regard to settlements but also with regard to the violence in gaza but it is asked it is judges whether it's actually has jurisdiction and there are some european countries who are taking israel's side on this not the court the daughter of a general did not say. that we don't have jurisdiction did not question then she

didn't she didn't say that we have jurisdiction and if any body claims the abos it believes come pouring one and they have come forward and they did but also there are some people who come forward and they are on the other side there are so many countries and organizations and law and individuals who come to say that there is a court of jurisdiction on there but as you know there are so there is an argument that some companies have sent that letter to say you know there's some bad and so on but the court itself it does state explicitly that there is jurisdiction of the court on the but as the territory there's another part of the international system that looks like it has been dragging its feet until recently and that the high commissioner for human rights she was asked by the human rights council back in 2016 to come up with a database of all the companies that are doing business in the settlements $100.00 finally she's come out with that database and there are big international companies

on it a motorola solutions general mills b. and b. expedia amongst others so you've got that list of companies that are breaking international law what are you going to do with it doc. it's good bureaus this because that tells you all that there is complementarity when it comes to breaking international law whether what the council of human lives has said or that of the general assembly or what has said and this is the council resolution 2334 which has been bypassed that does conserve does consider that or 7 months out illegitimately legally and therefore the whole international law united nations resolution out of complimentary and full support with but as the number by it's nobody american president has no right to dictate international law by himself there isn't an. national order and there is international law that they have to respect these

companies we ask them to immediately close their brain misses on the bus the 931 second they have to pay compensation on taxes via income tax and so on of all what they have done and we thought of the room for moving the premises from the settlements by the sea in cities if they wish to do so but this is a criminal act we have seen from the jewish experience what the jews have asked for compensation of the companies who were involved and the holocaust and so on and so forth there is a historical president where these companies have been taken to court if they don't act immediately according to the international law we will take them to court as well. given all of the challenges that you are facing there are many that say the palestinians could be more effective if they change their leadership and if they

were unified let me ask you about those 2 things 1st the division fatah hamas between gaza and the west bank is that being talked about so many times any progress towards unity yes our president has actually come up with in his last speech on the 26th of september 2019 to the general assembly where he brought bohr's door he not defied vent on national community that he is calling for elections we did call for elections how mass has accepted door come to be bought out of that election old palestinian factions have accepted the idea that we should go to elections we have signed with hamas for different better agreements one in doha 2 in cairo and one in gaza unfortunately none of these agreements was ever implemented so the only other way is to go back to the people asked of me but as you know what do you want ok what do you use to head the election commission of palestine and when will there be elections tell me we have actually brought borst

this. we have around this issue of gaza hamas which was an impediment there is now another of him by them and which has to do with the port in mobile as seen as in east jerusalem where we need the israeli approval for allowing them to vote and for allowing us to have a building stations in the city over jerusalem is that i'll until now did not say no but israel also did not say yes and therefore maybe there is there is they don't want our elections to overlap with their elections so the moment they say it is finished their own elections we will come back to them again and ask for elections to be president when it was on him and in those elections will there be a new palestinian leadership your president has been involved in the struggle for a very long time but he's 84 years old he was elected in 2005 for a 4 year term he's now done 15 years is it time for new more vibrant

leadership and would you consider standing the matter kind of tried to redesign or designed to see the leadership in accordance with their bland if we accept the plan we are good boys if we reject their plan we are bad boys that is not what international border is about well it's the indians we have elected our president this president did not land in about a short over our shoulders he was an elected president for us everybody because everybody everybody got faction has its own right to choose who to resent it whether of the presidential level or never the palestinian leadership which i am do we have the chairman of the part of the or the bill of the movement is the president that by us and then he we have ordered the trust in him to be a representing by december issue is not about age the issue is about of ability and he's got a couple. palestinian prime minister thank you for talking to al jazeera my pleasure

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