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of los angeles that is at the moment the site of most of the demonstrations. as far as arrests yes there have been some in fact last night there were 500 arrests at least one police officer has been injured is being treated for his injuries and several police vehicles have been set on fire or aaron all right to rob reynolds live for us there updating us from los angeles rob thank you very much in the. streets of rage thousands of people demonstrate in cities across the united states over the death of george floyd in minneapolis. hello i'm down in jordan and this sound is irreparably new extended coverage of the unrest right across the united states over the death of an unarmed black man in minneapolis for a 4th day has been violent protests across the country from new york to los angeles
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we have reporters standing by in following you the major cities will go to the mill i but 1st let's take a look at what's been happening across the country the mass of los angeles atlanta denver portland and announce nighttime curfew is in an effort to prevent more violence it's a move that was announced by minneapolis on friday where the protests 1st started in that city shops were looted and cars and buildings set on fire. in los angeles a police cruiser was torched other demonstrations have been held in miami and chicago. and scuffles have broken out between police and protesters in new york where demonstrations are continuing into the night and earlier a police car was set on fire the day before thousands of people demonstrated outside the city supreme court on the brooklyn bridge and at the barclays center arena. but president donald trump has offered to send in the national military to minneapolis and pledged to put an end to what he called mobile violence. but his
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comments haven't stopped people from gathering in large numbers at his front door this is the scene in front of the white house an hour ago with police set up barricades in an attempt to stop protest from advancing. in minnesota towards floyd died the governor says he's fully mobilizing the national guard for the 1st time in the state's history but ones he still doesn't have enough troops john hendren joins us live now from minneapolis where a curfew has just come into effect john so tell us what's happening in effect what's happening on the streets. well that's right the curfew just went into effect here and as you can see hundreds of people thousands of people in fact are violating that curfew as they did last night so this is a test not only of the curfew itself which failed pretty badly last night but it's also a test of the governor's new plan which is to bring in a 1000 new national guard troops because after all this is really a battle for territory these protesters are more organized than
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a lot of people think that corner over there last night was occupied by police and fittingly so because the 5th police precinct is right to the left there they have been taking over territory held by police now the 3rd precinct which is where the officers came from who held down mr floyd george floyd. that was taken over on thursday night burned down the officers are all fled so it's a in a sense it's a battle for turf last night there was a standoff in this very spot with protesters here police over there well you can see who holds that territory right now it is the demonstrators so we will see later whether those national guard troops actually contribute what they've been doing so far is just surrounding the area and allowing fire trucks to come in and out but that the protesters had so solidly held that territory here that this fire trucks could not go in to most of those fires it was just after the protesters left that
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most of that happened so this is a bit of a battle for toure fear meanwhile the governor is calling out on the demonstrators to calm down to stop the violence but the problem is that what they really want is charges murder charges against all 4 of the police officers involved one of those officers has been charged with murders 3 have not and so that is what they want and they say they will stay out here until that happens and we've had occupations from the attorney general the president that agitates and activists a coming in from outside of minneapolis to agitate the situation there what are you hearing about that john. well it's true that a large number of those people who were arrested here were from out of town by this protest has drawn a lot of people and when i asked someone about that just a few minutes ago her response was that the governor has no problem calling in national guard troops from out of town so what is the objection to that i think the
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answer to that is really that this is a movement that has drawn people into this city and that it's not necessarily you know professional agitators who come here we don't know if there are any of those here but there certainly are organizers and you can see there's a platform back there speakers peak at that platform i mean there is a. sensitive organisation there's somebody who's determining where those protesters are going from you know throughout the course of the night. we'll see by the end of the night who ends up controlling the city but i would say that if you were to raid it over the past few nights it has been dominated by the protesters and even the governor agreed he said he was overwhelmed john we've been talking to reporters right across the country throughout the evening and throughout the night you know many of them echoing the same thing a powerful sense of anger a probable sense of frustration you've been out and about talking to people there
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what's the underlying feeling in minneapolis which is where of course all of this all started. this is the feeling is that there's a past that frustration because these events cheap happening you have a vents trayvon martin in florida you know michael brown in ferguson is very you had advance in new york chicago l.a. and that's why those cities are also rising up right now there's this sense that there's an impunity with which white police officers often treat african-american young men and. the message here is that they want to stop that message hasn't really been heard the growth of the group black lives matter if it happened because of this that group is spread across the country but we keep seeing these incidents what they want is a kind of systematic change in who you talk to depends on what answer you get a lot of people say they just want new rules for the police they want you laws that
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make these acts harder to carry out but i talked to a young woman just a little bit ago who said nothing short of a revolution will stop this and she says they're going to keep fighting for them all right so join hands on that live for us in minneapolis john thank you let's cross over now to new york and talk together bill elizondo gabe we've been talking to you throughout the night it seems the way you are things seem pretty calm behind you but elsewhere across the city. things are kicking off. yeah that's right i mean let me explain what's been going on in new york you don't have one protest in new york city you have several of them and then they're then breaking off into smaller groups quite frankly we just simply can't keep up with all of them we marched or war with them for about 30 to 40 blocks. from near times square all the way down to central park to times square to near the brooklyn bridge where with them for the last several hours as you saw then they
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dispersed now there's a group that's near union square area of new york city but there are some tense standoff and some isolated reports of clashes that are happening with that group of protesters another group that we're hearing about in brooklyn as well but it's it's a complicated and very unusual scene in a way because unlike other protests where it's been one large group that we've seen here it's different groups and they're just breaking off and pretty much going wherever they want to go and as you can see where i'm at now it's very surreal because once the protesters come through they've moved. onto a different area and most of the police leave as well and so you have in literally empty streets in lower manhattan where i'm at right now why are they empty because we're also in the middle of a pandemic right now and new york city is still the epicenter of it and so that's complicating the whole sort of sorts of issues as well or most of the protesters have told us is they said we have
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a pandemic but we also need justice and that's what we're going on the streets and dave you've been out and about talking to many of the protesters throughout the course of the day when we've been talking to other reporters there saying look across many of the cities there's a palpable sense of anger want to what are people telling you the what's the underlying feeling in the big apple. yeah there's anger of course but it's a different kind of anger something i haven't seen either protests. that i've covered here or elsewhere this is really really bad and these are young people mostly i mean i spoke to a 16 year old a 22 year old. a white woman in africa a young african-american gal and they both say they are very angry but it's different it's a different kind of anger right now am i right or what i mean to say and and that's and that's what you're pretty much hearing and you're also hearing from them that that video of george floyd handcuffed on the ground with the officer with his knee
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on his neck for nearly 9 minutes or that has really struck a nerve here and it's not going away this isn't something a video come out protests for night and it's over that has really really struck a nerve here a lot and that's why you're seeing so many people here on the streets and really unprecedented protests like we haven't seen before in new york for years if not longer gay but just a final thought from you we see new york as one of the hot spots in terms of the coronavirus pandemic across the united states so what's been the official response than from the man the governor what have they been saying. yeah both the mayor bill de blasio and the governor andrew cuomo have both said they are standing with the protesters that they want justice just as much as anyone else that they were just as shocked and outraged by the death of george florida in minneapolis so they're all saying the right things but they're also telling protesters on the streets here
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in new york please keep peaceful please do not do damage to things and also reminding them listen we're in the middle of a pandemic here but did that's really falling on deaf ears because everyone we're talking to they're talking about one thing and that's not the virus that's justice that they want and so they're in no mood the protesters to hear from politicians at this juncture and really quite frankly while most of the protesters wearing masks like this i have been to when i'm near people which i'm not right now. they're saying they're wearing masks but they're saying we're not going to stay in our houses because of this let's remember new york city is still very much the epicenter of copan 1000 in the u.s. and new york city technically is still a city that's shut down you just won't know it by these protests because they say it doesn't matter anymore we have to take to the streets all right gabrielle is on the line for us reporting from new york city gate thank you let's close in out of los angeles and talk to rob reynolds rob we know they've been protests throughout the day we know that there was some violence toward some police vehicles one was
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overturned set on fire just bring us up to date with what's happening there. that is the case and the there are still several 1000 people on the streets of los angeles confronting police lines there hasn't been a great deal of violence but as you mentioned several police vehicles were vandalized or set on fire one police officer that we know of was injured he's being treated for his injuries there have been an unspecified number of arrests of demonstrators now the. groups of demonstrators moved from one area to another most of them have been concentrated in a part of los angeles called the fairfax district that's kind of a tony upscale shopping and entertainment venue in the streets around there so there you see the burning police vehicle in that area also
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beverly hills another wealthy area has been struck with protests and some damage to shops like gucci and air maize and these sorts of very upscale luxury shops but there hasn't been any notable we haven't noticed any building set on fire we have not heard any reports of any think tallaght ease in any of these confrontations there will be a curfew in place in the city of los angeles downtown tonight that begins about 2 hours from now dusk till dawn the same in beverly hills and the mayor of los angeles eric garcetti is emphasizing that while he.
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sympathizes with the aims of some of the protesters that is to protest racial inequality to protest. improper police conduct and to express their outrage in a peaceful way he's saying that this cannot be done at the expense of destroying the city he's also saying merit our city that the they're trying to keep the police activity pretty restrained and so you haven't seen you know for example the kinds of like armored vehicles and things like that with the heavily armed police on them that i saw in ferguson missouri several years ago sure there's a lot of shoving and pushing going on here but it's not in a militarized way. night is going to be falling fairly soon derren and we hopefully will not have
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a repeat of last night's widespread destruction in downtown los angeles but as in so many other cities around the country night time could be a bad time back to you all right to rob reynolds there live for us from los angeles rob thank you well let's turn our attention now to chicago where the man across the media and the protests that have been taking place. his goal is to polarize to destabilize local government and inflames racist urges and we can absolutely not let him prevail and i will code what i really want to say to donald trump it's 2 words it begins with f. and it ends with you. i will not remain silent while this man cynically tries to turn this incredibly painful moment into one for his own political gain. let's cross over to chicago talk to tasha going to name
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a tasha we were talking to you earlier there some colorful words from the mayor about president trump what more did she have to say about the president. well mary lightfoot has said simply that donald trump is inciting violence her response there her rather choice rebuke that has received a lot of media attention was specifically a reaction to a tweet by president trump he part of that tweet he said that when the looting starts the shooting starts that is a racially tinge comments it dates back to the civil rights movement it was a comment made by a miami police chief the president later when facing outrage regarding the tweet said he was unaware of the historical reference or the fact that it was racially offensive and tried to explain himself but the mayor here in
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chicago like a lot of people around the country leaders activists protesters remain quite upset with the president for the 2nd time in less than 24 hours the protests here in chicago have been quite rowdy overnight more than 100 people were arrested a dozen police officers were injured and then mid afternoon today protesters gathered again near the federal building they began marching the group splintered off at one point the group was as large as 3000 people by some estimates another group ended up in front of the trump tower but the scenes were not great there were scenes of police cars spray painted with profanity protesters rocking a police vehicle back and forth reports of protesters hurling water bottles and firecrackers at police protesters attempting to broach
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a line of police officers in riot gear so that they could continue marching ultimately the illinois state police did have to shut down several ramps highway ramps to try to contain. protesters and it's been quiet for the last several hours but as you can see it's getting dark the sun is going to set shortly end and i'm quite curious to see if we're going to see another group emerge we did speak to one person who attended the protests today and she said that for the most part protests were peaceful all right and a touch of the name there live for us in chicago will no doubt come back to you throughout the course of your night time there in chicago natasha but for now thank you well as i mentioned there's even been violence outside the white house where hundreds of protesters have been squaring off against the police only a u.s. president donald trump denounced the violence in minneapolis blaming it on looters and the consists my administration has opened
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a civil rights investigation and i have asked the attorney general and the justice department to expedite it i understand the pain that people are feeling we support the right of peaceful protesters and we hear their police but what we are now seeing on the streets of our cities has nothing to do with justice or with peace the memory of george floyd is being dishonored by rioters looters and arcus. well democratic presidential hopeful joe biden has also weighed in on the protests tweeting that if we are complacent if we are silent we are complicit in perpetuating these cycles of violence none of us can turn away we all have an obligation to speak out let's cross back to mike hanna he joins us live from washington d.c. mike you were telling us earlier not surprising the president's taken to twitter
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that's caused some tension between himself and the mayor of washington d.c. . very much so president trump tweeted in the course of the morning praising the secret service for their actions during friday's demonstrations obviously demonstrations going on again in the course of the day and in the evening in fact in the last hour there's been an uptick in the demonstration near the white house where demonstrators attempted to get into lafayette park which is right outside the white house which had been sealed off by washington d.c. police the police pushed back it was scuffles at the stage it would appear there were no injuries but president trump also tweeted in the course of the morning that shook the demonstrators had got through they would have been greeted with what he said were weapons and vicious dogs now this comment was seized on by the mayor of washington who said the reference to vicious dogs hearken back to civil
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rights era when police reached beach dogs on african american civil rights protesters also absolutely incensed by president trance claim that washington d.c. police did not take any part in preventing demonstrations in the course of friday whereas he's own secret service subsequently confirmed that they had been joined come on throughout that in fact the metropolitan police had lent secret service some of their protection agreement so basically. to. clearing the says yet another . also absolutely infuriated by and not the president tweets in which he said i tonight is maggette night at the white house is make america great again it's the prana of his campaign this was interpreted by many including the mayor as calling on his supporters to come and conduct
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a counter demonstration during these protests which would have created probably a great amount of friction and possibly great to violence now the good news is that no demonstrate his didn't turn out to we'll see him during the course of the many protests that were taking place in d.c. . the signature writ kept the supporters of the ignoring president from street but the fact is still that he would have appeared to invite counter protesters out to take part in these demonstrations behind me you hear the police helicopters flying over the white house in the background they had this throughout the day just part of the massive security operation that has been mounted here in the course of the day at the demonstrations as i said have been largely peaceful a few isolated scuffles a short while ago there was a spike lee big a scuffle but as yet no injuries have been reported throughout these demonstrations
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so the one single thing that stands out is this deteriorating relationship between president trump and the mail the district in which the white house is situated. as we're talking to you we're seeing live pictures there we believe that it's from outside the white house you were talking about those protests earlier just talk of the time and what's been happening throughout the day it's nighttime now in washington d.c. what's been happening throughout the course of the day to get to where we are now. well there's been a series of marches in various parts of d.c. in the course of the. starting from various air is a number of them heading towards the white house facility some of them heading off towards the waterfront disrupting traffic on many occasions but around the white house itself the white house is front to pennsylvania avenue and beyond that it's not enough i it park which basically separates the white house from washington d.c.
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downtown proper now the police basically shut down the quiet talk early in the course of the day to keep the demonstrators further away from the white house however during the course of the day they did allow some demonstrators through to stand between the fire at park and pennsylvania avenue right across the street literally from the white house at what has happened in the last hour is at the top of demonstrators attempting to get into the park that's been closed in the course of the day being pushed back by district police backed by secret service and federal police officers but generally it's been quiet throughout the district as i said a number of marches taking place and a couple of times traffic been absolutely destroyed. obstructed for a period of time but generally the demonstrations have to be peaceful even here into the evening despite as i said the sporadic scuffles that happened no injuries have been reported and no arrests at this particular time they were at least 6
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arrests reported in the course of friday's demonstrations so at this stage it's still early in the evening in terms of the demonstration which last night continued until the early hours of the morning but at this stage it does appear to be peaceful but the city police leaders and the the city making very clear that the comments coming out of the white house are making their jobs all that much more difficult to deal with the situation as it stands at present daryn might just a final thought from you how is this all playing out politically for the president i mean we know that he's extremely. the political temperature across the country his administration's been heavily criticized in its handling of the code 900 pandemic across the u.s. and now we have these riots. well it seems that the president and many observers contend that he has been desperately trying to detract
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attention from his administration's failure in dealing with the coronavirus pandemic he has been putting blame on to other parties such as china that has been a afraid in recent weeks he has attempted to take the national debate away from the ongoing pandemic he has been striving to open up areas as quickly as possible to get the economy back on track his whole impetus would appear to be according to many to get his election campaign back on track feeling that the act if it's to combat the coronavirus pandemic are impacting on that campaign in particular his inability at this particular point to hold the best rally that he's a signature part of his campaign that he thinks will catapult him to another term as a president but once again we've seen in the course of the evening it's another example of president trying to creating another crisis before what has been result use just announce that he's postponing the g. 7 summit that was due to take place in d.c.
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in june pushing it back to september now this followed the news that the german leader angela merkel was not going to attend the summit president trump what to that in person he didn't want a virtual summit despite the ongoing efforts to tail the pandemic but then he added another statement in his comments to reporters describing the g 7 as an outdated organization saying that he was going to invite other countries to the summit such as russia south korea australia and india now this is creating an absolute crisis into. the u.s. relations with its g 7 partners it is something that is going to escalate in the days weeks and months ahead and some might contend it classic president from creating yet another controversy yet another crisis as his country comebacks a pandemic the lead in deaths from the pandemic and as his country contends why it
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spread protests against the killing of yet another black man by a white police officer all right on my kind of there in washington d.c. mike thank you let's cross over now to under gallagher he has been following events in miami and joins us live from there now and we know that some riots have been taking place some protests have been taking place there just bring us up to date with what's been happening. there like many of the states this states put on protests all across the area this afternoon they started peacefully enough but as night fell things changed pretty dramatically in downtown miami there were protesters surrounding the main police station there at least 2 or 3 vehicles set on fire police telling the crowd to disperse otherwise they would fire tear gas and a curfew is now being put in place by the authorities here from 10 pm till 6 am tomorrow the i 95 the main highway that runs all the way up the east coast of florida has been closed in some parts in miami dade county there have been vehicles
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on fire there as well and i'm hearing that protesters have discovered that the police officer who put his knee. george floyd's neck has a 2nd home here in orlando and that's been surrounded by protesters as well there's also a report of a car driving through a group of protesters outside a police station in fort lauderdale thankfully nobody was injured in that case and there were protests as far north as jacksonville close to the state line with georgia and just to put things in context for this state there have been a couple of very high profile cases in the last few years is a cory jones just. a couple years ago was shot and killed by a police officer as he was pulled over onto the side of the road and then of course trayvon martin the young black on armed teenager was gunned down about 8 years ago in this state that was a huge trial that was followed across the world george zimmerman the self-appointed neighborhood watch captain who gunned down that unarmed black teenager was found innocent in that case that is
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a pain that is still carried within the african-american community certainly in this state if not across the entire country and what we haven't seen this same amount of numbers the pure massive crowds that in in places like l.a. or new york of course minneapolis there is certainly a feeling here that people are simply hot enough of watching these kinds of incidents take place time and time again and not seeing those perpetrating these crimes being held to justice so there is a a big feeling here that people have just simply hot enough not just here of course across the entire country but for a state like florida which is somewhat you don't often see these kinds of protests especially turning violent not since the 1980s in fact it's fairly unusual i think it tells a lot about the feeling across the entire nation about just how fed up people are of seeing these incidents of unarmed mostly black man being penalized and more often than not killed by the police so i think what we're seeing here in
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florida tonight really reflects the mood of the entire nation yeah as you say on the public sense of anger and frustration there in florida replicated pretty much across many of the major big cities in the united states so in terms of the police response so far and what have we seen on the streets from them. well i can talk about the the main police station in downtown miami what it looks like the police are doing there is using their vehicles as a barricade to stop people from storming not building of course one of the police buildings in minneapolis was set on fire a couple of nights ago but the. saying to the crowds in downtown miami if you don't just burst we will take actual fire tear gas and i'm being told that the reports are coming in that the crowds are beginning to disperse it is still early here remember things could change in the coming hours but it looks like the crowds are beginning to slowly go back to their homes as certainly that's what the authorities
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hope that we still have many statements or certainly i haven't seen any from this state's governor wrong to scientists who is a very close ally of president john he's not said anything yet that i have seen but certainly the crowd saw it as big as we've seen in some places but the anger just as probable as we're seeing everywhere across this country all right live for us there in miami giving us the update from florida on the situations and he was saying replicated across many big cities in the united states this is washington d.c. we've seen unrest the particular outside the white house where many protesters have come out angry a palpable sense of anger reflected across the united states in many cities denver portland. and in washington d.c. and in minneapolis as well of course where this all started that's it for now i'll be back in half an hour with more news here on how does it stay with us a controversial liberal which i am not an idealogue let me be absolutely clear to
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democracy and international development and all the roads doesn't cut inequality in fact the increase i would from a bestselling author and distinguished global economy just you don't know the case for green like you do i mean i sure do many times as one having read my model guess how many women might know me very well give us a maybe his son goes head to head we've done bees and maria have been accused of being crazy i'm not that crazy on al-jazeera. how are we here again the question many african-americans are asking is yet another unarmed black man is killed at the hands of law enforcement is the government complicit. simply unable to win and 2 years of allegations of systemic racism and police brutality this is inside story i am. i. alone welcome to the program i'm convinced
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anger and unrest is spreading across cities in the united states over the police killing of yet another unarmed african-american like others the killing of george floyd in minneapolis was caught on video and went viral online images of police officer derrick shell the kneeling on floyd's neck for several minutes leading to floyd's death sparked anger crowds protested demanding justice and attacking police and vehicles riot police and riot gear 5 to 10 gas rubber bullets and pepper spray and arrested a c.n.n. journalist and t.v. crew well the violence in minneapolis prompted a tweet from president trump a call protesters thugs with the losing starts the shooting starts twitter says the message glorified violence and removed it from view although uses can still select and view it meanwhile a feeling of resentment towards police is echoing throughout the united states.
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what i think is ridiculous is that they're using the lethal force that they use and how they're trying to harm us you know i know they know the point we want justice we want the officers out of there we're not here against good officers if there is you can't tell me when a man had his knee on my brother's neck taken his life away. in his pocket the best smoke on his face protect his friends. in the. u.k. tell me. he didn't feel it was his duty to. get away with it you can't tell me that when the look in his face were we saying is so many times so many times. we see right now face that we don't you know just where. we're probably. our.
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social media has exposed other high profile incidents involving police in the united states in 2014 aragon that was killed in custody in new york after a policeman put him in a chokehold video of his death spread to the protests of the use of force by the police questioned. a year later 2 police officers in the city of minneapolis shot on clock in the chest after a scuffle at a party violence broke out when clark died the next day in $26.00 teams fernando steele was pulled over by police for a broken tail light on his vehicle in minnesota he was shot dead by an officer seconds off to disclose that he owned and was licensed to carry a concealed weapon. let's bring in our guests in washington d.c.
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we have paris dennard who's a senior communications advisor for black media affairs to the republican national committee and a black voices for trump advisory board member in minneapolis linda saw cell she is an organized a civil rights activist and author of we are not here to be bystanders and in new haven jason stanley who is a professor of philosophy at the university and author of how fascism works welcome to the program all content here so the core question we have today is the trump administration complicit or just unable to and what's being called systemic racism and police brutality in america linda that comes you trumps initial response on twitter as we mentioned there was to call the people protesting thought and he went on to say when the starts the shooting starts twitter has said that glorified violence he says walked it back saying it was a statement of facts what do you make of his response so far is his administration
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complicit in what we see today. thank you so much for having me trump is not the cause of what we're seeing in the protesting that we're seeing here in minneapolis in atlanta in new york unarmed black people have been killed at the hands of police departments across the country before there was a donald trump administration but in this moment donald trump has an opportunity to show some leadership and instead he was inciting violence against young black and brown mostly young people out here who are absolutely enraged that the minneapolis police department just recently only arrested one of 4 officers who took the life of an armed black man george lloyd ok i can see you shaking your head there paris's something you'd like to add to that. yeah president trump is leading on this effort to. clamp down on the violence that and the rioting and
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the the looting and the burning down of cities especially in minneapolis minnesota the president's tweet was a tweet of fact he was not at citing violence he was not encouraging violence he's been doing just the opposite and always has and so when he said that when the looting starts to shooting started with a statement of fact because what we see and what we have seen since the tweet before the tweet and after the tweet is that there have been looting and there has been shooting the president wants calm he wants peace he wants order but he's also stated that he has spoken to the family they had a call he said that he understands the sentiments and the pain that these people are feeling because he too like i was and am troubled by what he saw our on the video we have seen leadership in president trump and we've seen leadership in the in the actions of the truck administration immediately sending the department
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of justice immediately setting the f.b.i. and calling for them to expedite the process by which they would adjudicate this issue ok so it's just patently false to say that those things about president trump the administration ok paris i want to turn to you jason too to drill down a little bit about the language that donald trump is using to send in the past of half an hour half hour he's tweeted again talking about the protesters who arrived at the white house he says they met the protesters in quotation marks scream and rant as well as much as they wanted he's talking about the secret service but whenever someone got too frisky or out of line that would quickly come down on them i didn't know what would hit them he went on to say that if they had have breached the fence they would've been greeted with the most vicious dogs and most all menace weapons i have ever seen that's when people would have been really badly hurt he's tweeting this in the middle of. everything that is going on across the united states right now what should we make of that. well i want to push back a little bit about this description of protests as riots this is something we see
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all across in this is we have to look at these protests in a long history of black political protests against police brutality against structural injustice against poverty and these are these are happened under black presidents and white presidents democratic presidents and republican presidents this is a long history of political protest and we represent it as riots or alluding we're doing no different than the chinese government doesn't with hong kong protesters when they represent hong kong protesters not as political protesters but as riot riot or the western media did not represent hong kong protesters as rioters even when they burned down a metro station and burned down many more businesses than we're seeing many businesses in india the b j p the governing party tries to represent political protestors as rioters and
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here in the united states yet kate after jacquet their wrappers and political protesters fighting against police brutality as looters and rioters and that really is intentionally trying to change the subject from the matter at hand ok wrongs that police brutality that has occurred under multiple administrations paris hilton about and what we can say there. look if you want to justify the looting and rioting and the burning down of of communities you can but it's wrong and it's offensive to try to say that the legacy of dr martin luther king and the peaceful protests political protests that we saw during the civil rights movement as any means close to what we see today we should call this what this is they these are not peaceful protesters these are not demonstrators when you go and you take
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a torch to the target when you destroyed the one of the few pharmacies that you have in your community when you destroy black small business owners in your own community that's not a protest those are rioters president obama saw the rioting that took place after the friday great incident and baltimore and he called them thugs because that's what they were they want to hang back and to make. it can i can attend to your lender is the message getting lost is that is the core issue the systemic racism is that getting lost in the middle of what we're seeing on the streets. with all due respect i'm on the ground in minneapolis i'm at the protest i see exactly what is happening here this if you want to invoke the name of dr martin luther king you either invoke all of dr martin luther king or you don't invoke him at all dr martin luther king said araya is the language of the unheard and these communities have felt unheard for a really long time there are hundreds and hundreds of protesters across minneapolis
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and the media is complicit in the way in which the narrative is being portrayed the media goes straight to the burning building they go straight to the looters they are not pursuing the solidarity amongst young people of color in particular who are peaceful who are enraged and they are they should be righteously angry and when we talk about donald trump this is not an isolated incident we right now are in a cold with pandemic people here are unemployed we have a president who has been incompetent in being able to address a pandemic that has disproportionately impacted black people when you have communities where black people are not the majority of the population but they are the majority of the deaths that is a problem so donald trump these to stand up for black people he needs to be providing resources to black people he should be sending out effective equipment to black people here in minneapolis so don't tell me about donald trump donald trump has incited violence and has spoken to police officers directly at events he has said to police officers when you are arrest them don't put your hand over their
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head when you're putting them into the car you don't got to treat them nicely you have incited violence against black protesters at rallies for donald trump donald trump has been citing violence against immigrants and against our the communities of color he has broken the law for the last 3 and a half years that he's been in office and he and he has not been held accountable so what he should be doing is calling for the officers that killed george floyd and kill every black person across the country to be held accountable and responsible but he wouldn't do that because that would mean he would have to be held responsible for the things that he's done to the american people paris is linda right. she's 100 percent wrong and it's embarrassing that she's actually saying this before international audience this president has been a great champion for the black community and i wish she would have the same of vitriol towards the end double a c.p. the national urban league and the rest of the so-called civil rights organizations who have been silent when it came when it comes to calling on these protestors especially on social media not to be doing things that are of that are violent that
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are rioting that are burning down our communities nobody on this program can sit here and justify the burning down a community and i think it is all right is all right that's what i asked from the q.b. harris they are. going to coming in and other organizations are coming in and destroying these communities and the media is wrong for disport train that but the president acknowledged that there were people protesting at least probably understood already how. there is i want to just bring it back to to some of the facts i've got here the poverty rate in this state for african-americans is almost 4 times the white policy rate 10 percent of black americans in minneapolis and st paul were unemployed compared with just 4 percent of white american residents 36 percent of whites got bachelor's degrees in the state compared to only 20 percent of the black population is there a problem. yes i think all of those stats are very problematic and i think that's
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why you've seen a president try to put in policies that will impact the black community in a positive way as we saw with the historic low black unemployment before colbert 19 we saw him doing that we saw it on president support both financially and for h.b.c. use is talking about how to universities but i would ask the democrat mayor and i would ask the democrat governor what are they doing on the local level to make sure that these disparities that these issues that are problematic that are wrong that are disproportionately impacting our communities of color in that state and in that city what have they been doing for years and decades president trump has been doing an excellent job at addressing especially during cold at night teen there are p.p. he is getting 2 committees a color's $1000000000.00 worth of testing and going to community centers these are
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things that are happening whether she wants to admit it or not those are the facts there is still a lot of anger on the streets i want to go back to jason you've written about trump's communication style saying in the past that he has created his own reality and tried to press that reality on to his readers i believe you called it for a tarion propaganda i'm wondering does to what floyd's death in the protests that we're seeing right now forced him to confront what is what is happening. well we'll see i'm a going to agreement with paris that the racial disparities the tragic racial disparities will not try to do or caused by long histories of structural racism are due to democrats and republicans these are long standing things these kind of protests against police brutality and massive. racial disparities in wealth and income are longstanding and shouldn't be placed on the shoulders of they should be
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placed on both political parties the blame but obviously this is a president who's run as a law and order president and and the worry is he's going to change the topic from the racial disparities to to riots and looting even though he just says is severing relationships over china over hong kong protesters treatment of hong kong protesters let's let's be clear our political protesters we never call them anything other than a little for a doctor and when you're calling them rioters when you're calling attention to say the metro station they burn you are changing the topic you are to lack them and changing the topic the topic is the longstanding racial disparities and police brutality directed against black americans in the united states and if donald trump is going to change that topic and his representatives are going to change that
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topic to talk about to talk about rage when it goes away and when it results in property damage then they're changing the topic and they're they're paving the way for an off our tarion law and order response and the president has no business with this kind of language it's obviously going to enable the police brutality that has led to this situation the longstanding situation that we're. basing it it's going to our potential we make them work and bring us into a summer of previous violence but it's at the very beginning of. this recent campus out so let's carry paris dennard if i can come back to you did did talk about how he'd spoken to george floyd's family he said you know he accepted that george flood was a tremendous player pain that he couldn't breed that it was all vs to anyone that watched and yet all of the other language that we've heard from donald trump he has
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not mentioned systemic racism he has not talked about as joe biden did a country with an open wound calling out racism is there a problem and not using that language in avoiding those terms. i think that it's important for your audience to hear all that president trump actually said with his mouth before the international media in terms of how he said i understand the hurt i understand the pain people have really been through a lot the family of george is entitled to justice and the people of minnesota are entitled to live in safety there and a lot of america is memory of george lloyd family so i think the president has repeatedly called out and denounced racism hatred violence and prejudice he's done it on multiple occasions probably more times than any modern president to memory and so when the president talks about what the subject matter is at hand the
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subject matter at hand is the death of george floyd and the president has talked passionately about that the other issue is the protesters now there's no problem in the president they have any issue with people protesting people demonstrating the problem becomes when the protest becomes violent becomes something outside and it itself detracts from the original issue and the message that dishonors george floyd and hurts the communities of color especially that need the most help right now and the middle of a global pandemic that is disproportionately impacting the black community that's the problem and he is right to raise that so that people can get back to and the people who are out there peacefully protesting cannot have their issues their passion their concerns drowned out by the people coming in and those in the community who are destroying property and siding and actually committing acts of
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violence and rioting that's the problem linda i'd like to come back to you you know some critics have argued that trump's remarks have extended to nonwhites incendiary remarks extended to all non whites aiming at the somali population of which minnesota has the largest in the u.s. has donald trump's attitude impacted the lives of other non white americans in your opinion. absolutely i mean not only have his words impacted there has policies have as you know somalia is one of the or a one of the countries that is on the muslim banned list trump promised during his campaign that he was going to ban muslim immigration to the united states of america and he has kept his promise by we're almost out 14 countries that have been banned entry into this country and if donald trump is committed to black people and if he's going to call george floyd's family well then let's talk about other cases let's talk about an e.m.t. worker a black e.m.t.
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worker who has been at the forefront of this pandemic brianna taylor in louisville kentucky who was killed in her apartment in the middle of the night by the louisville metro police let's talk about shawn reid in indianapolis who was shot down by the indianapolis police and facebook lives his own murder this is not an isolated incident these are killings that are happening almost on a daily basis across the country against unarmed black people this is this is systemic this is happening in every corner of this country which is why you see people rise up in l.a. in atlanta in new york and instead of responding to the response of the people to their oppression let us go to the root of the problem and respond to the actual oppression donald trump needs to talk directly to police officers to police unions and ask police officers to stand down yesterday in michigan a 17 year old protestors bush was shot and killed at a protest in michigan this is what we're trying to avoid here we need to understand the president united states does to understand that we need his leadership at this
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moment and he has to talk about the systemic issues he has to understand that there's a historic cop people are fed up it has been 400 years and that's what people are saying in the street 400 years of poverty of mass incarceration of the continued oppression of black people of poverty of a bad education system and they're saying enough is enough and this time they mean that jason something we haven't spoken about yet. fact that we are in an election war should we exist expect to see races in a central tenant of campaigning in the lead up to the election what kind of difference in narratives do you think we'll see between the presumptive democratic nominee joe biden and president donald trump well i'm wealth of damn have tragic histories intermingled with the night late 1980 s. and 1990 s. maps incarceration donald trump with his reprehensible remarks about the central park 5 ben and his 2016 race which called attention to burning
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cities and and he used a century flack lives a matter of political approach asked to to run as a law and order president as richard nixon had in the sixty's and early 70 but joe biden also has a problematic history with with mass incarceration and racial racialized saying social problems and so so i think joe joe biden has done much more to address that past i think the trump has but both of them face the crucible of decision making and both of them will have to go through this summer. making sure they address the long standing problems and both of their histories here on the wrong side of the airship. go ahead have hope i hope
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i hope that was a joke i really hope everything he just said it was a joke because there is no way you can sit here straight face and tell your audience that joe biden the architect of the 9094 crime bill has. can't take any but has been a dead a good job trying to right the wrongs of the crime bill excuse me it led to the mass incarceration the destruction of the black community black them a black generation a well for thousands of people who look just like me donald trump the president states has no history and no record of mass incarceration or supporting it and that he is responsible for that the largest sweep of doing joe biden's crime bill through the criminal justice reform of the 1st step act which led to thousands of black america to look like me going home to their families and trying to reduce the risk that it isn't right and now moving into the 2nd chance act so there's no negative history their president trump can will run on
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a very positive history and legacy policies that have positively impacted the black community when you have a person like joe biden who says you went black who says that president obama was clean and articulate and and the for the 1st time you having somebody running when he talked about muslim indian americans saying that you can't go into a 711 i hear anything that's had you know i have my dogs out there already have tested the end of the program there is a lot more robust debate to be had we appreciate all of your time. senior communications adviser for black media says the republican national community in minneapolis and to some sore civil rights activists and author of we're not here to be bystanders and in new haven jason stanley professor also law city and author of how fascism works we have appreciate your time. and thank you too for watching and you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com
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context is the feeling in storytelling around the biggest issues but had to do you should do it again. all. the. streets of rage thousands of people demonstrate in cities right across the u.s. over the death of george floyd in minneapolis. hello i'm daryn jordan this is al-jazeera bringing you extended coverage of that unrest in the united states at the death when unarmed black man in minneapolis for a 4th day there's been violent protests across the u.s. from new york to los angeles we have reporters standing by in.
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