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giants of the struggle for civil rights the man of 968 miles over the veil of the oppressed people have a look at me and continue to keep the negro to be defense that what you mean by that about malcolm x. and martin luther king face to face on 00. 0 there are mclachlan to how the top stories here on al-jazeera a monsoon weather in bangladesh is threatening the safety of a 1000000 reinjure refugees already at risk of coronavirus aid workers have repeatedly warned of the disastrous toll it could take in the world's largest refugee camp as infection spread a powerful lawyer who has prosecuted a number of associates of u.s. president donald trump is refusing to step down even though the attorney general has named his replacement jeffrey pam and says he'll continue his work as alexia brown. as the top federal prosecutor in manhattan jeffrey bannon it's led
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several investigations into corruption close to the u.s. president's in a circle today and seeing an indictment charging love parness igor froman in october last year he announced charges against 2 men linked to donald trump's personal lawyer rudy giuliani they were accused of trying to buy influence of u.s. policy in ukraine and a case that added fuel to the calls for trump's impeachment they saw political influence not only to advance their own financial interests but to advance the political interests of at least one foreign official. these cases and an investigation into giuliani have concern to the trumpet ministration on friday night attorney general william announced berman was leaving his position saying that the president intends to nominate jay clayton the current chairman of the securities and exchange commission a lawyer with no experience as a prosecutor statement ending by thanking jeffrey berman describing him as stepping
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down after 2 and a half years of service the only problem is jeffrey berman says he's not going anywhere releasing his own statement i learned in a press release from the attorney general tonight that i was stepping down as united states attorney i have not resigned and have no intention of resigning my position the trumpet ministration has a growing reputation for forcing out anyone seen as disloyal in recent weeks the president has fired a number of agency watchdogs including the inspector general of the intelligence community whose actions led to the impeachment inquiry but offered no explanation for attempting to replace berman a republican who once donated to trump's campaign democrats have accused barr of politicizing the department of justice and acting more like trump's personal lawyer while our.
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senate democrat chuck schumer of new york has tweeted the dismissal reeks of potential corruption of the legal process questioning what action by berman had motivated the president burmans laid cases against transform a personal lawyer michael cohen and convicted sex offender jeffrey abstain he says he'll continue to pursue justice without fear or favor until a presidential pointed replacement is confirmed by the senate and exam brian al-jazeera. a court in the democratic republic of congo is due to deliver its verdict in the corruption trial of a former presidential chief of staff it all come a day is accused of embezzling more than $50000000.00 from funds to build homes for poor communities where prosecutors are seeking a 20 year prison sentence if he's found guilty. the a.p. has rejected a push by egypt to refer disputes over its knowledge river dam project to the un
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security council talks between ethiopia egypt and sudan have stalled egypt worries that dam will take away water its people need to survive it's brazil has become the 2nd country to record more than a 1000000 coronavirus cases reported a new high of more than 54000 infections on friday the number of cases has been leveling off in some cities but is growing further inland where health services are less prepared for crisis 3 inmates at a bolivian president have lit fires and rioted to demand they be released because of the worsening kovac once an outbreak presidents say they should be released until the pandemic can be brought under control. decision from china on whether to enforce a proposed security law for hong kong has been delayed the controversial bill previously failed to pass through hong kong's legislature after a strong public backlash thursday with headlines coming up next it is head to head by for.
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not happy here then you can leave him bringing drugs they're bringing. their rapists. racism corruption accusations of collusion and love affairs with dictators donald trump's presidency has been in. trouble from day one. many still support the president and say he's doing wonders for the u.s. economy but with many economists predicting a recession potential big trouble for the company in the summer beginning to wonder if trump is headed for a defeat in next year's election my guest tonight though is stephen moore one of america's most famous conservative voices on the economy and an advisor to the trump 2020 campaign he's argued that the president deserves the nobel prize in economics and whatever trump is doing on the economy it sure is working because
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we've got these you know tremendous conditions right now and a lifelong champion of free trade is now defending trumps tariffs arguing that they're all part of the president's grand plan to make america great again i support what the president's doing and that there's no question this is slow down the kind of this is short term pain for long term gain. and i've come to washington d.c. to go head to head with stephen moore a senior member of the 2020 campaign and one of the president's top economic advisers held for the 1st time at george washington university all asking whether trumbull omics is really helping ordinary americans and whether a volatile and seemingly unstable trump is even fit to be president of the united states. i'll also be joined by rick wilson a long time republican political strategist who's become a leading conservative critic of the president and author of the book. everything trump touches. a constitutional lawyer
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a member of the trump 2020 advisory board and tiffany krause a liberal commentator and co-founder of the national news website the b. please welcome stephen moore. moore is co-author of the book trump a nomics inside the america 1st plan to revive the economy. stephen moore thank you for joining me on head to head 1st to be here why is it stephen that you think that u.s. president donald trump of all people deserves to win the nobel prize for economics well we've got a very strong economy in the united states right now you know it's weakened a little bit from last year when i said that i think on c.n.n.
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that he should win the nobel prize for economics but it's the strongest economy in the world today. for reviving the economy i think trumpeters serves a lot of credit and maybe a nobel prize you say reviving the economy let's just be clear about what trump promised he promised 4 percent even 5 percent growth he hasn't even managed 3 percent yet he promised to eliminate the national debt in 8 years instead he's increasing it by 4 trillion dollars he said he would save coal coal hasn't be saved he said he would restore manufacturing it's in recession just one failed economic pledge after another i see things real differently i mean 1st of all see them differently the facts right. i mean trump makes grandiose promises exaggerates and sometimes i wish you wouldn't do that but you know if you compare where the economy is today versus where it was when he entered office it's substantially. if you're an american worker and you're looking for a job this is the best labor market for workers so probably in 50 years and the
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labor market is great there are $807.00 just for audience here and it's what your home there have been 107 consecutive months of job growth 76 under obama 31 under truncheon you say thank you barack obama look obama certainly deserves some credit for getting that unemployment rate down but it continues to slide lower than anybody thought was possible i think that you know if you look at our growth is growing slower on the trump than it doing well barack obama the problem let me say this the problem we have in the american economy today is not a shortage of jobs you know if we put every unemployed person into a job we'd still have a 1000000 have jobs left over that's a that's a pretty strong economy it is and i'm saying there inherited a pretty strong economy your way trump should be given you say trump should be given a nobel prize for economics when barack obama was president you said americans shouldn't reelect incumbents who quote run up the deficit by a trillion dollars in the woods this year the trump deficit crossed a trillion dollar destroy it will cost a trillion dollars
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a year as well so stephen surely for the sake of consistency you will be urging everyone not to reelect donald trump well no i'm not a hands out and go you're a consistent. i've been. i've been very critical of the overspending that's going on in washington and i think both parties are responsible for that the good news is that the economy is growing faster than the debt that's the most important thing make sure that our ability to repay is it that you say that's the most that is under obama you didn't say that was a miserable he was that has yes these are your goods because you cannot run up the deficit by $1000000000.00 let me you said you said let me quote you i'm angry because we are borrowing $1000000.00 trump is now pouring $22.00 trillion dollars a year angry now on the angry when obama's there is that as a share of g.d.p. in the last 2 years under bush and the years under obama doubled we borrowed more money in bush's last 2 years and obama's 8 years and then all of the. the according to the congressional budget of the world war 2 levels under trump do you
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recognize this book i do you wrote this book called in 2009 how barack obama is bankrupting the u.s. economy tonight do you want to change the name right over and put donald i give you like no no and get your show off enough or you can because there's a lot of $22.00 in case there's a big one that's really in dollar deficit a difference we've got you on a minute booming economy think that's going to be us no the last year that barack obama was present at the economy grew by 1.5 percent last year you know very well we got fiscal 2009 as measured by economists not george bush's budget you know unless. the numbers i mean all see that the chinese trade will donald trump said last year that trade was a good and easy to win he now says he didn't say it but he did say that it clearly hasn't been easy to win and in terms of being good don't these trump tariffs on china represent the biggest tax increase on u.s. consumers in modern time the. free trade guy and one of the things i 1st told donald trump when i met him when he asked me to work for him as
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a senior economist i said mr you know donald i'm a free trade guy he said look i believe in free trade he just but he said i want a level playing field we are in an epic battle with the chinese it's going to last decades don't the trump tariffs on china we can talk about decades long battle right now don't they represent the biggest tax increase on u.s. consumers in modern times well now we can for you say no but those are your goods oh wait a minute hold you said trump's idea of a 35 percent tariff on imported goods would represent the biggest tax increase on u.s. consumers in modern times suddenly start working for trump and that's not true i know their average american family has seen about a $1500.00 reduction in their taxes thanks to the to the us economy is about that wiped out by these tariffs now still haven't been to new york federal reserve is $800.00 or how about that you know who's been arguing last of those who you know new federal reserves are only in the tax policy that is wrong entirely for the federal budget your burden of those of those tariffs are borne by american consumers look if they have a. if that's the case then why would china care the fact is anyway before bearing the cost of it just here are some of the i so enjoyed this conversation because
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even though you're all going with yourself i'm not the one who said i'm not the one who said every quote or tariff imposed on the us hurts residents of the united states because all restrictions hurt the united states tariffs have never worked i always end in an unhappy ending because you also let me explain argue with you'll see because it's an important point do i think that these these tariffs on china are hurting american consumers absolutely there was donald trump this he did look he says the chinese and not any americans are paying the tariff that's a lie you know that's a lie you say that you are saying is the the book of the cost of the terrorists is being borne by the chinese through depreciating their currency for providing increasing subsidies to their companies and when they do that the cost is borne by the chinese not the united states the people have done the studies on the stephen reading of print a lot of the money that you don't even know what i found what we're seeing even reading is that one of the country's top experts on international trade is a professor of economics at princeton. all of the u.s. tariffs of imports passed absolutely for consumers that's what do you think it's
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a bit about but about would you are supported having free trade with nazi germany or the japanese such china is now he's in germany we are in china not i do think we are in a new cold war with china and there was a german about china nazi germany in 2015 when you said why are we picking an economic weight i don't care about the human rights violations in china i care about about them build i'm wondering when you care about their about a given 2015 you didn't care about them you said do we really want to pick an economic war with china whether or not in 2015 the only consolation i think this is the national review article china is our number one import market do we really want to pick an economic war with then i then we should right now is you telling us that even more of 25 we have to leave us where we have to we was wrong and drove a truck on the floor of 2019 tells of stephen moore 2050 let's go to our panel who are waiting patiently to come in here and join the discussion rick wilson is a long time republican political structure. this too has worked for george h.w. bush rudy giuliani among others since 2015 he's been
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a leading i think it's fair to say conservative critic of president trump author of the book everything trump touches dies now there's a title you and stephen have moved in similar right wing circles you've both worked on republican presidential campaigns who better represents conservative economic principles right now you or him well work i'm not an economist by trade or training steve it is but i will say this i still believe with the things that i think stephen believed before which is the primacy of free markets and now we have a president who wants to talk companies what to make where they can make it who engages in state capitalism sort of crony capitalist things and i think stephen you know prior stephen and now stephen there's a big dichotomy there and it's i don't think it's stephen alone i think there are a lot of republicans who just made that compromise you know so i'm curious like how does it feel like to flip so fast and so hard resolve that i've always said right right. quickly respond that i've always said the single most important thing to
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reduce the national debt and the deficit and i think it's important priority for the united states is to grow the economy to put more people to work to make more american companies you know richer and more profitable rick we have done that in spades stephen you mentioned the economy is greater than ever before more bring in journalist reviews he's a constitutional lawyer member of the trump 20 twentieth's advisory board author of the book the legal basis for moral constitution genet stephen says talks about this great economy anyone paying attention to the news recently and look at some of the numbers coming out there's a fear of a recession or at least a downturn coming maybe even ahead of of the next election how does a self-inflicted recession some might argue given the trade war how does that fit with the whole make america great again message going into 2020 this could be a problem fame is it not we want to talk about the constitution here not 100 percent of economic factors can be directly attributable to a single president and so if you look at the leadership style. of barack obama it's a great point see where i was getting republicans during the obama program but i think that that's that but we did it and i certainly have and you know congress is
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also very much responsible and both sides how worried are you about recession but i think that we're point about self inflection is is also very very consistent with what we're seeing with the mainstream media who are so intact in a stacked against this particular president that they are the ones that are creating a false narrative so i listen even once this is like to give him an opportunity will give him over to actually it's so good at all if you're going to let me explain rather than trying to you a question is this so much when you say the mainstream media is to a loan for the post talking about recession the white house chief of staff and that mick mulvaney said there might be a short moderate recession next year is he part of the mainstream media there might be but i think that you're trying to prove tax and isolate these comments and try to spin them into your narrative rather than just going to the white house. different we're going to move in but you say you're taking it out on this problem tiffany cross is the co-founder managing editor of the national news outlet the d.c. liberal commentator you're shaking your head you want to come in and respond so it's
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really clear that the campaign is in full blown panic mode because he's fallen short on some of the promises that he made in 2016 to help perpetuate this false idea that people voted for him because of economic anxiety and you know given the this administration's kind of faulty relationship with the truth why should anybody believe what you or any representative of this administration says when most of your economic solutions seem more based on messaging and attacking what jenna calls the mainstream media and calling facts are untrue. so yeah but the top ministers frequently. did not reverse course on the debt and i think that that is a huge value album and i think they should be related to that were better shouldn't be reelected than no well you shouldn't 20 other people in rome. because i should the whole reelected look i think you have to look the whole range of issues and
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what trump has done on the economy and i think it's been spectacular let's talk about immigration people have called trump's immigration policy dangerous and crazy extreme nativist what do you say to them i say that we have to build the wall we have to secure our border i am totally in favor and by the way i'm the most i'm made to be the most pro moderation person in this room i've written books and books i've written i have written are you still i'm so i'm totally pro-immigration so do you think trump's policy is dangerous crazy extreme let me do you think this dangerous to myself the question do you think is dangerous crazy an extreme no i think those are your words look you thought i think trumps policy is a crazy policy with a very extreme nativist position it's a very dangerous thing not that that in 2015 before you went to work now here is what i believe i don't always agree with his positions on immigration but i do believe that until we get the border secure and we get that wall bill once we do that we can increase our legal immigration and i am for immigrants coming into this
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country who want to contribute to who's going to. this is an administration has backed legislation to home of illegal immigration the want to accept 0 refugees next year they support the clinton bill in 2017 wants to end the visa lottery program and family migration crackdown is now is of legal or not true let me know how it got helped i helped write it's just not true to me just because i helped write the bill i know more about the bill than you do i have had i'm very central to how to show you aggression not and family immigration what the ad bill does that allows spouses and children to come into this country a preserves the sanctity of our president every one of the presidency and a president go off and chain migration visa the whole point is all illegal immigration pubs now but will hold on here's what we're doing but we're basically saying yes an immediate family member you can bring in a spouse or a child we want you know you can bring in but not your 2nd cousin not your on how about you and. the way i want to get littles about to bring in your in-laws if they're if they're you mean they're really i mean that you want to run your 1st
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lady brought whatever home here is i'm not sharing my granny she just so everyone knows what the policy is because you can decide whether you like the policy or not we want to have more high skilled talented young workers coming to this country who will benefit the united states now some people oh that's a racist policy a racist policy that's the power of the germany that's the policy of australia that's the policy of canada why shouldn't we take in pretty sure that you have to nationalise let's take the immigrants who were going to make a biggest contribution trump and his policies on immigration can be quote compassionate while preserving our sovereignty i think that's true. if you look at the camps at the border is it compassionate to detain 1000 people in a room designed for 40 people where women you know i can't comment because i can't go nowhere like that and that's leading to not include because of lack of sanitary products children left and i was at the border as well do office of inspector general i've been in the border in texas and i can't speak for all the camps and so
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on but the ones that i've seen humane the people are working at the border they are they are doing everything they can to help those people and the idea that some somehow our border patrol people this is in all sorts of inspector general says 88 i don't males held in a cell with a maximum capacity of 41 but i don't support that that's what's happening because our compassion not we should stop doing that. isn't the real reason the donald trump if we could agree. to get to the prima donna reason but also you know the real reason we have to change our asylum policy because what's going to extend the refugees is what that is what steven miller 10 while i don't agree with steve miller and by the way that's not the trump assertion ok the one who has a well founded fear of persecution should be able to come in as a rough minister from syria. here is that well he's closed the door to syrian refugees is that compassion that i am not a foreign policy expert on if this isn't the real reason donald trump are fighting this war on immigration is that he's a racist if when the president tells 4 women of color members of congress to quote
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go back to where they came from even though 4 of them all of them are u.s. citizens and 3 of them were born in the us is that not racist i know donald trump i've spent a lot of time no that is not a race ok he's not a racist is that comment racist people can interpret all. we can do you tell us about him isn't a sense of why when you answer it because what's the problem if you have something wrong i don't think donald trump is racist i didn't ask those who agree with some of the telling people to go back to where they came from is it racist to say yes or no question. i don't know i'm not going to. well one of the rallies this summer in north carolina night when he mentioned representative in the crowd chanted send her back send her back i don't seem to be ok with it i don't like that stuff i was there you said you love the people from rallies but you stood with them and chanted sound about how i would so and so a lot of people i am hurting why because i think it's not it's not it's not what i think that's what you get a lot of them it's not real it's not bringing us together why not really is it not
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granted to it because it's racist here is one of the things about donald trump that certainly look i'm a big fan of donald trump's i made that clear but i will say this. that what i wish he would do i wish he would bring us together more and be last divisive and i've told them that i think you know i think he's his performance has been spectacular with respect to getting jobs back and so on but he's got to be the president values that it's not going to not races that's your preferred would probably divisive not races is your preferred way yes device he has to be to each would be the president of all the people he's got to work on that isn't the problem stephen that you are sitting here defending the president what many would argue are blatantly racist comments when you yourself had to withdraw your nomination for c on the federal reserve earlier this year partly because of misfortune istic remarks you made you say you made 1020 years ago really and partly because the race is coming you made that cause a lot of problems you about the obama's just run years ago that caused a lot problems for you the comments you made about the homeless i mean i had 6 full time investigative reporters looking into things i wrote 25 years ago this was any
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years ago i'm talking about you know letters that are what 25 years ago i'm not talking about those yet i'm saying i was in the past 10 years and i'm saying that what's what is so i think anyone who looks at the evidence of what happened believes that i was completely unfairly treated i mean they unseated don't rise up for you don't they regret saying that the 1st thing donald trump does as president is kick a black family out of public housing it was a joke it was a joke it was funny about that it was a cartoon that was in the in the b. you found it funny it was basically it was a joke it was you know you know you haven't apologized to regret i shouldn't. that but it was a joke ok let's go to our panel tiffany the u.s. has always had problems of racism i could do that we could say it started with donald trump how much worse in your view do think it's become on the donald trump or is it just a continuation where do you stand on the racism yeah it's just a continuation i mean people like to say that it happened i saw a resurgence of this kind of rhetoric under barack obama as evidence as stephen moore is comments i think instead of spitting in my face and trying to tell me it's raining you and you need to acknowledge that you are right with the racist
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president when you talk about immigration and you talk about you know that his policies are not racist i think perhaps the only immigrant that donald trump may like is former model birth there who has a college degree and given that she came in this country because she had to find the i'm curious if you were exam i can answer what was her special talent that she got this special treatment that she got the einsteins you think you're. going to go with you asylum policy immigration policy when you see donald trump the justice department go to court to prevent migrant kids in detention centers from getting soap and toothbrushes is that something you defended in court on behalf of the d.o.j. that wasn't the substance of that particular loss i don't know that i was and i said yes you know you asked a different question which is trying to isolate that particular fact that's in your favor rather than looking at it i can assure you doing things to know she's going to do a favor it's basic human rights the basic right thank you very very
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very. thin across the border by human trafficking and that is what the donald trump administration is making sure to be waiting very patiently risk accusation of like cherry picking and selection my grandmother had a phrase when you have a turd in the punchbowl you don't have punch anymore you got water with that term so you can't say that if something they miss is a part of the overall lawsuit we just a lot of the over that we decided nor that that's part of the that's part of the system. of the of the steven miller the president stephen miller immigration policy they are designing this program in order to cause pain and suffering to children and families ok border littlejohn that general you have to look at the entire scope of the lawsuit and to make sure that you understand and that particular point in all of this i mean i had a lot of credibility already got amazing as you learn that they are trying they are doing everything that they can for the children at the border the late president trump is trying to do is to make sure that they don't get just as you mentioned the
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people rick i want to ask you one question isn't a problem for you and for never trust republicans like yourself is that racism and bigotry long preceded donald trump look i glued it on the road a lot about this in my book you will and i told you homer just for the record you went to george h.w. bush who in 1981 a pretty racist out about willie horton didn't start out in a drum bush campaign didn't run mentality was the allies running out a lot with them but the long story short i wrote about this in a lot of my book and i realized something over time you know not every trump supporter is a is a nativist racist but all the nativist racists right now are trump supporters everybody ok let's go to this area we have to take a break then it's a very lively show as you can see when they come back in part 2 and talk about donald trump the mound donald trump a leader we're going to hear more from our panel and from our very patient audience here at the george washington university in washington d.c. stay tuned join us after the break.
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methamphetamines from me and are flooding into countries across asia. one o one east asks why all parties can't seem to stop the myth. on al-jazeera. and i'm not locking down how the top stories here on al-jazeera a monsoon weather in bangladesh is threatening the safety of a 1000000 ridenour refugees already at risk of coronavirus aid workers have repeatedly warned of the disastrous toll it could take in the world's largest refugee camps as infections right so the powerful u.s. prosecutor who has led the cases against president donald trump's allies says he won't resign despite an attempt to remove him jeffrey berman took action against trump's former personal lawyer michael cohen and is investigating another of his lawyers rudy giuliani. of course in the democratic republic of congo's delivering
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its verdict in the corruption trial of a former presidential chief of staff he told him what he is accused of embezzling it more than $50000000.00 from funds to build homes for poor communities prosecutors are seeking a 20 year prison sentence if he's found guilty is following developments from nairobi the committee is one of the most a visible politicians in the democratic republic of congo is contesting for elections president acts of before standing against president does of kabul the former president of the dia to see in 2013 he went into a pretty election pact with critics as a kid to the current president and he settled to get the prime minister position. about a quarter from being together one. brazil has become the 2nd country to record more than a 1000000 coronavirus cases reported
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a new high of more than 54000 infections on friday the number of cases has been leveling off in some cities but it's growing further inland where health services are less prepared for the crisis. inmates at it believe in prison have lit fires in riots and to demand they be released because of the worsening outbreak the prisoners say they should be released until the pandemic can be brought under control. crowds have gathered in paris to protest against racism pleas brutality some of the messages call for justice for remember a black man who died in a police operation in 2019. the decision from china on whether to enforce riposte security law for hong kong has been delayed the controversial bill previously failed to pass through hong kong's legislature after a strong public backlash. you know stay with headlines got more news here in our desire after returning to it to head.
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welcome back to head to head on al-jazeera english here in washington d.c. in front of an audience at the george washington university for the 1st time my guest tonight is the senior economic advisor to president donald trump he's an author he's well known conservative commentator and he's an advisor to the trunk 2020 reelection campaign stephen moore thanks for being here one stephen a lot of people watching around the world. fascinated by donald trump wherever you go fascinated by this guy on a level i've never seen in any world leader in modern times you know the man personally you've met with him you've invited him i'm sure a lot of people in this hall and at home must be wondering what is it like to advise someone a world leader who knows so little about anything. well look i mean 1st of all one of the things that really struck me about donald trump when i 1st met him 4 years ago you know that look i would say 95 percent of politicians are you know wonderful people in public and jerks in private sometimes trump can be a jerk in public but he's actually a really nice guy in private i mean i like donald trump
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a lot of come to admire him i think people underestimate his intelligence i bet his i.q. you're going to laugh at this i think he's probably got about 100 i.q. the guy is amazing his breadth of knowledge about about you know the world affairs and i want to guy who says it like it is sometimes does he stick is put in his mouth yeah i think we should comedy like it's not going to agree that people definitely voted for him because they didn't see him as a conventional politician but when you say breadth of knowledge and high i.q. this is a man who thinks wind turbines cause cancer thinks you can stop a hurrican with a nuclear weapon you need id to buy a box of cereal things england in great britain of the same thing well soviet union just rebranded as russia these are things he says every day i don't know i cannot go here to defend the rethink that what you have just you would you just call it what is going to hire you in a breadth of knowledge i. i ask about you someone had to defend him because i think one of the flaws of donald trump is the things he. would be better off to stop talking so much on letters record speak for itself why would you want to stop
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talking if you've got such a high i.q. and such a broad big number because he you know idea i do worry that there is a little bit of trump the team that people are tired about of him where he's good is when he focuses on an issue and he comes up with solutions that have worked you know and you talked about that's why people are impressed when you talk about trump fatigue is the problem that he seems kind of fatigued people talk about his mental i don't see that he's cognitive decline this is a president and i think the president this is a president who refers to himself as the chosen one as a stable genius he rants and raves on twitter in the middle of the night he recently retreated a supporter who called him the king of israel and the 2nd coming of the lord if you were sitting on a plane stephen and the last thing you heard a pilot say was i'm the 2nd coming of god you would get off the plane with you mr president of the united states saying that you know what a lot of times he's saying these things to tweak people like you and get underneath your skin but by the way i think it's a rather wretch the liberals are now saying you know trump doesn't have the mental acuity to be the president and i'm listening to joe biden every day i mean come on
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ladies about it all by it's funny unbelievably money and i don't agree with you someone should check out joe biden it's not just liberals it's not just liberals you keeping liberals former white house starts of communications and the scaramucci republican senator susan collins and bob corker former trump advisor omarosa newman they've all come out and said this guy quote is an obvious mental decline he's unstable everyone knows it. the white house continues to deceive the nations as one former aide on how mentally declined he is he's a liberal to the people who worked with him these are republicans there are a lot of republican never trumpeters out there i don't have a trumpet they worked for donald trump called me have never come i mean i worked in the white house when i worked for them too and i'm here to tell you the guy is i've never seen by the way anybody in my whole life he's a freak of nature you were 20 i mean we can agree he's afraid to measure now he works 20 hours a day when he's playing golf and watching t.v. i'll come out i mean this is a guy who i mean come on is it not fact that he plays a lot your whole album that he plays god i don't have a problem you just said he works 20 hours a day i'm just going on what you're saying what i'm saying is this guy around the
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clock is paying attention to what's going on or playing golf states ok so we play some rounds of golf lot of saying is he had his own gravel a clock i've never seen before but that's what people are questioning the work ethic given he's always playing golf or watching t.v. in your book you write that everyone around him seem to love donald trump that trump treats his people well and yet he has the highest turnover of staff of any modern present time and in fact i'll let you also why in fact when they resign or when he fires them he then attacks the yeah i don't like that he's a sloppy steve bannon dumb as a rock rex tillerson iraqi owner as he called her a dog highly unstable not job scaramucci ironic clueless bonehead jerome powell these are the people trump treats his people well you wrote i was at work look i don't like that he does that but i do like how does that fit with. your opinion as it has every description the trump treated people don't seem to treat people i'm saying as the people who are around him love him you know the liars them and then love the many so you know what prompt us he's a c.e.o. if people. use them and that's what a good c.e.o.
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should do year i'm president i'm pretty sure it is somebody who is able and don't want to go and get rid of 3 and call them a nickname or a dog i'll look that's a different issue how me saying there's an issue what's the issue is that i agree with you he shouldn't call these people names but i am i do think that if they're not provided you know what i'm asking what he does i don't know i mean i guess i don't know what i say visit to his mental decline. is it to do with racism no is attorney why did he do this why does he call a woman a dog why does he call his own former advisor dumb as a rock his former secular state who praised rex tillerson why do you do that a mosque you can you know and we don't i wish you wouldn't do it that's why i'm asking why does he i don't know i don't know why he does it and i wish he would do and i think it gets him into trouble i think if donald trump didn't do those kinds of things you're talking about he did not have a 40 percent approval rating you know 70 percent i'm honestly why he doesn't you can't tell me even though you're telling me he's the smartest guy in the i mean i don't like a lot of the personality i don't know this but which part of what i'm saying is what americans care about is suppress performance is results not what he says that
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how he acts ok and isn't it the case stephen moore that if you did if you did have a falling out would trump if you did kind of turn on trump or criticize him publicly in any strong way he'd come off to you too when he when i was going so you would be so i steve. that's why i'm not going across i'm like i mean i mean i mean let's let's bring in our policy rick wilson is here rick wilson long time republican political strategist worked for george h.w. bush rudy giuliani never trump i think it's fair to say rick a lot of people on in your camp would say the people don't cross him because they're afraid of donald they are there's no question about this i've talked to members of congress members of the senate who despise this man who think he is the worst president they've ever dealt with in terms of being consistent honest direct and having having any sort of connection with with with ethical boundaries these people are terrified of him this is not how a government would normally be would seem to work but the fact is trump has
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a gigantic threat it's that hammer of his social media that he's willing to use against his own allies almost as much as he is against any and hone it rick you know this you're a pollster donald trump's approval rating among republicans is what $85.00 or 90 percent it's trump's party now and you know what if if if republicans come out against him they're going to lose their primaries because he's so popular with as well the guy who got the big. it is and it is no party there is not a party right now dedicated to limited government and as just a responsibility to the economic growth 'd there is not a party going to get it to the limited government fiscal responsibility and the old tenets of conservatism it is now donald trump's party it is a man of his mob it is not a political party with a consistent i don't want let me bring in let me bring in journalist rivers is a constitutional lawyer member of the trump 2020 advisory board rick says your policies notice trump and the mob do in response yes of course because you know what i think what i think stephen is saying as far as this president donald trump being the most conservative we can measure him not by our own personal opinions but
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i think full articles to accuracy to the u.s. constitution and that is really the metric of any president and if you look at not only the economy the lower unemployment rate but also the $150.00 judicial appointments and including 2 supreme court justices that are faithful originalists this is the promise that donald trump has for america and so like him as a person or not i'm not looking for someone that i want to go have a beer with i am looking for a leader and someone who will stay faithfully within the margins of the u.s. constitution the whole idea of make america great again is actually working ok tiffany cross is the co-founder managing editor of the b d.c. national news outlet a liberal commentator tiffanie isn't a problem for a lot of liberals and people don't i don't have a trump as a you can pile up old examples of things he doesn't see me on hinged. and yet it stephen points out the vast majority of some of his supporters millions of your fellow americans still love the dog it beggars belief but you see because you're
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trying to have a logical conversation with the illogical she said that he was faithful to the constitution except for birthright citizenship except for the a monument clause this is ridiculous that's why we kind of i'm going to make everybody part of the problem and listen i said look it's really not like you know trying to get applause lines i mean listen my people who built this country ok. i love this country and it just says something to me that after all that america has done so my ancestors i can stand here today and be a bigger patriot than you or you because this president is an existential threat to america he has lost it preys on foreign adversaries like vladimir putin he waxes poetic about love letters he writes with kim jong un and he invited the taliban to camp david a week before 911 and what world do we exist that we don't feel like we're living on a saturday night live sketch 24 hours a day that reasonable seemingly reasonable people become i'm reasonable but
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unfortunately you're trying to say that we are not patriots simply because we disagree with you and that is absolutely not an ok statement to make we haven't been out of logical thinking that we would have a logical i dream and not to be disagreements or to know avocados no matter where you are such as how i'm going to take any additional i'm going to respond really probably not you're not going to agree with you on that i'm going to thing within the margin of the constitution simply because you claim that somebody does not constitute little does not mean that it is and stephen was going to ask you this question you're listening to this conversation and at what stage do you go this is just not normal saying tweeting a very stable genius thanks look if trump's policies were not working then i'd be with you all i'd say you don't get rid of the guy but guess what they are worth it's funny because you did say get the guy before you went to work for the guy let's go to our audience to be very waiting very patiently at the g. w. university here in washington d.c. if you have a question for stephen moore raise your hands start here gentlemen the front row
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wait for my friend to come to you. my question for you stephen is there are fears of recession that emanate from whether it's trade wars whether it's the misuse spend deficit which was spent on tax cuts for the wealthy rather than on spreading the wealth as needed to be done so how could you doubt donald trump as a great economic president when what we have actually seen is that he's really pushed the economy into a decline well look i mean we did not inherit a strong economy if if americans had felt good about where the economy was circa 2016 hillary clinton would be president i mean it's just no question clear 3000000 people did vote for hillary clinton the no not yet but. that's not the problem the reason that trump won those states like michigan and iowa and wisconsin and ohio and pennsylvania and west virginia i went to those states and you know what when i had asked people in those states people in places like your republic of pena and charleston west virginia and flint michigan i'd say to them how is that obama
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recovery going for you i'm a donald trump since he was elected we have created 1400000 mining construction and manufacturing jobs those jobs were declining under barack obama he's brought back middle class jobs shipped in the with the whole trade war going on obviously there are a lot of objectives president trump has in mind if there is one particular objective that he should be striving for if you could bring one thing home what should be in your name with respect to china with respect to china so i think the biggest problem i have which i think trump would probably agree i mean there's 2 actually there that they have never opened up their markets to us the way we've been open up our markets they have terrorists that are 3 times higher than ours are we can't live with that all we want is a level playing field by the way everything that will trump is asking for from the chinese is reasonable there's nothing that donald trump is asking the chinese to do that they shouldn't that they shouldn't do ok on the other one by the way which may be more important is they 'd are stealing 300. 1000000000 dollars
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a year of our intellectual property if other countries are stealing that you're not going to have a job i want to go to the gentleman the front and then the lady behind next good evening everyone and immigrant from. most of the executive director of the senate. and immigrant the executive director are you a senator yes i am a citizen and i am the executive director of the central american research center here in d.c. president cancel temporary protective status is a program which. paints just to be clear you're talking about the program that people came into the country could the children could remain no this is a program a humanitarian program protection when there is there is a crisis in the country of origin either manmade or natural disasters so most of the recipients from from that are either from central america are hyper concentrated. because of trade in the construction trade or 200000 people who have
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200000 kids right is it a good policy to terminate that in that program when it's going to create a negative impact on local economies you know it's a good question sir i confess to you i don't know enough about that program but you make a strong case for it and if these if these people in the country who have come from central america if they do have a well founded case that why they shouldn't go back then absolutely should allow them to stay as long as they don't you know if the lawyers there are productive citizens this country yeah paper that why does it matter if he's a citizen and i just was wondering at. the reason i ask you. the reason that the reason i asked that question is i love america america's immigrant heritage it's what makes us a special place on the globe i love it when people become naturalized citizens want to become americans they just have to come into the country legally and abide by our was ok ladies awaiting the block to. question is down term has been
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well documented making thousands of misleading and flat out false statements throughout the course of his presidency does a version for truth telling undermine his ability to lead and unite the country i think when 21 trump says things that are false that does undermine his his presidential authority and i wish he wouldn't do it he should stop saying things that are untrue but he does say things that are untrue you know you don't so he's a liar. i mean ever going to say that i think trump is an exaggerator and i think it gets him exaggerate to you does the example exaggerate like when you said oh we said we were going to 5 percent growth we knew we were going to get up to the no that's an exaggeration but when he says my dad was born in germany even though he's born in new york that's an exaggeration is it. when he says melania got to know kim jong il and she's never met kim jong il that's not an exaggeration there's an exaggeration there's allies ok let's go back to the audience let's go to this lady here in 2nd row. i'm a freelance reporter focused on the extremism. is
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a freelance reporter focused on extremism extremism yet my question has to do with white nationalism and the trumpet ministration isn't it impossible to deny that the trumpet ministration has done more to mainstream white supremacist hate than any president doesn't have very i think to i think donald trump is. he is not a he is not a white supremacist himself and i think i can't speak for him but i think i'm speaking from because i know how i feel i hate weights are promising i think you know every model for king said it best a man should be judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. when the hi thank you i do a lot of work with tears for the heartland talking about the impact of the tariffs on the u.s. economy from farmers to services to retailers are already being harmed by this july alone the u.s. click to $6800000000.00 from u.s. companies not from china but from u.s. companies we've seen manufacturing take a hit exports taking a hit farmers taking
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a hit at what point is enough enough i know we all agree we all agree china has been a bad actor but we don't think terms of the right approach to get there i think there are other ways we can put forces on china to make changes but the tariffs are going to really have an impact on the economy going to 2021 here more folks are very concerned about where we're going with the economy it's a great question and you know so i'm happy to sit down with you and you can tell if somebody in this room can tell me a better policy that will change china's behavior than tariffs i'm open ears when don't say go take i'm doing world trade organization although i know when you hear someone like christopher gibbs he's ohio soybean farm he says i was a truck voter but he hasn't come through he's lost on trade i won't be voting for the president. look you can quote some farmers but i can tell you there's a pretty good talk a lot of farmers who fully support what i'm a little sad about the up and we know we're taking a hit here but we were willing to do this because we think donald trump is going to bring very briefly right if this is a great policy that china is paying for why are we. farmers out of the tune of at least $32000000000.00 because of the damage they're taking economic i recover not
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saying that the farmers and manufacturers aren't being hurt by the terrorist they are it doesn't seem like it's very easy to win if what i am saying is that this is you know short term pain for long term gain that china is going to start behaving themselves and i'm going to see 1000000000 dollar 32 $1000000000.00 subsidies go socialism well wait a minute that's really giving money to all of that that's more that's probably right that we're going to have to ok. this lady and i'm going to gently waiting the black ship for a while a recent time article stated that the trade with china can now be considered unwinnable do you agree with this or see any positive outcomes for either side said someone who will a recent time article time magazine time magazine. i mean yeah this is one of the top is going to win this war i hope before the election but i don't know how long this is going to take but he is right it is fighting the right fight the american people are behind them china is a menace we are in an incredibly bad situation with china we cannot live with their
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behavior and we better stop it now before you know that rather than 10 years from now when they're bigger than they are today gentlemen and by the way when that trade deal is signed sealed delivered you think the economy is strong right now you can see the big i don't mean to stop right now i'm the advocacy director for a youth climate organization called 0 hour so just on what 0 hour there's increasing evidence of climate crisis as they stream hurricanes like hurricanes during that just happened if the ministration continues to not only say hurricane dorian it's just that you're saying there's no reason for you saying there's never been hurricanes before let me answer that i mean are you saying there is no let him allegedly or should it come out of us is really. we're going to lot of hurricanes before comparison even steven. get the ministration continues not to only deny this urgent threat but also roll back climate regulations such as the water of the united states rule. from an economic perspective how can you argue that transitioning to green energy would throw millions into poverty and destroy the
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economy when in reality there might not even be an economy to talk about in the near future we don't know how well we're going to have an election in 2020 on this and the dollar if the democrats want to run on getting rid of fossil fuels in america and they want to go to ohio and pennsylvania and west virginia and texas and energy producing states and tell those people that they're going to put millions of people out of jobs so be it by the way we have 2 forms of energy that riyad a clear reduce greenhouse gases you know what those are nuclear power and natural gas and the left as against both do you still believe that climate change is the greatest scam in the last 100 years i think it's i think it's totally overblown and i think what you're still going to grant a scone i think the scam is that somehow people in government are going to change the global temperature they can't even balance the budget they can't they can't solve any problem so struck to world poverty and we expect that the united nations will get change by the way every single country every single country that's that
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signed the paris climate accord which i bet you're in favor of every single country is cheating on it especially china time for one last one lady in the 2nd room my names are fine on her i'm an immigration attorney i'm am a citizen i'm asking the question you've got a teen immigration. haven't talked about this being there's a chain immigration that is a lie you could never sponsor your 2nd cousin twice removed your family immigration is always based on immediate family and that and that hasn't changed and then he talks about the whole countries can you just can you speak to that it's very clear to the american public specially people look like me people of color that when you talk about you that president trump is for legal immigration maybe legal immigration the people who are white so we have a we want to put in place a merit system america based immigration system and i guarantee you one of the quite eerie of that of. marriage has nothing to do with race or gender and it's
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basically based on age skills whether you can speak english whether you're you know whether you have the kind of talents that this country needs and that seems to make sense to me by the way there is chain migration you've had many examples of somebody who comes in and they bring 25 or 30 relatives with them as you go through the chain now look i mean look the trumps and the maloney has found it. so. but i want to make sure everybody understands this we're not getting rid of the family based immigration system you can bring your you can bring your children you can bring a spouse but the idea that you can bring an elderly parent in now we don't want people who are 78 years old coming into this country unless or young unless unless unless they're the 1st lady's parents just to reiterate this thing but it's pure hypocrisy on senate races are these at the. white work elderly parents going to come in not people we met on the elsewhere and some not working and contributing i don't know about that we're out of time but in tell us his question is a crowd a lot of young people are students of you know asking questions you're very keen on
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the policies you say present from great for the economy but obviously the president is about more than just growth it's important but the president also the lead in saying it's all leader of the nation how to stay in this country and how does government is donald trump do you think a role model for the young people in this room didn't grow up with god his life has been incredible i mean this is a guy this is a guy who's credible companies he's becoming the listen again it comes to what is a plus and even if you grow them before it came i think he is absolutely a role model i mean the guy his his life his story is amazing he built great companies the 1st major american businessman or woman to become president the united states yeah i think most you know i always tell people that a lot of people keep talking about social justice and all these as you want to change the world the single most important thing for the user those are your kids the single most important thing if you want to make the better about the world a better place start a business start a business and quite ok and that's what donald trump is not i don't know if you've grown up on that. stephen moore thank you so much for joining me on head to head and rather to our audience at george washington thank you to our panel of experts
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for coming along thank you all for watching at home it's a new season of head to head there's going to be shows next week on the week after do tune in stephen thanks so much for joining me question thank you. thank. you. hello your guys are on course for yet more thunderstorms it doesn't much as direct
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flow cross e and these it represents a line that will develop once more i think will see this cold from very the north east of washington is for your a quiet doesn't look much and it's hidden behind the words when it's there is but you just see the orange there and you get some pretty dramatic thunderstorms in this part of the world but the north of that is dr g. gets the phone on the walls of brazil so what is there is a particular sun still is forecast to sunday and again tuesday not much else going on here but say they will be dramatic to watch the notes of the continent is a bit of a doubling down of the big sums to see reese they're still there in this davina's line of which is sea which means showers well way from bermuda through the bahamas to cuba down towards the yucatan but the obvious darkest blue and oranges down here in costa rica or maybe nicaragua got plenty small share house and the eastern side of the caribbean but nothing as dramatic as it was except probably in costa rica much of mexico is just seeing just
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a few showers not necessarily big ones and the u.s. it's warm and sticky on the eastern seaboard still the potential for slow moving showers in maybe the carolinas and of course in the plains states. for the kenyan journalists and press freedom and justice. for. thank you that's investigating government corruption and the national health care system some of the transactions asking i don't think a lot. of money that if i'm explaining to africa and sunsets and publish those things that people don't want to publish many of the doesn't mean that the us get this truth is it anyway on al-jazeera as protests rage over police brutality and coronavirus scripts the nation campaigning on the election trail has been forced to take a back seat will the presidential candidates ever hit the road and sell their brand
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