isolating times the listening post cuts through the noise you've been looking at another side of this story now from the information around the outbreak but. the listening post on al-jazeera. stepping up the pressure on israel the united nations security council is meeting right now as calls grow to stop the. palestinian land in the occupied west bank. summary here in doha 1400 hours g.m.t. which is a little after 10 am in new york as we say the united nations security council holding its open session a virtual session on the israeli palestinian conflict specifically on the issue of

land israel's plans to. territory in the occupied west bank which the u.n. is urging israel to abandon now it is carrying on right now representative from vietnam is speaking in about i would say the next 5 to 10 minutes we will hear from the u.s. representative at the united nations kelly craft u.s. ambassador kelly craft that will be interesting obviously the one security council member which we know backs israel's position of. already though we have heard from the likes of nickell who is the un's middle east peace envoy. who is the arab league secretary general but 1st it was the u.n. secretary general and tony a good terrace he summed it up in calling for nothing short of israel abandoning its annexation plans. if implemented and accession of course into the most serious violation of international law grievously harmed the prospect of

a to spend solution and the current possibilities of a new will of negotiations. i call on the israeli government would ban is an exception class. so has time space out diplomatic editor who is listening to that along with those early speeches we heard james what was your take on it. well we have the secretary general very strong comments we heard those backed by his man who's based interest in the north and by the secretary general of the arab league no surprise there they have opposed this idea of an exception very strongly for a very very long time because this would be illegal under international law it goes against the u.n. security council resolutions and the security council are all speaking one by one now and i can tell you there are 15 members of the security council and 14 strongly support that position from the u.n.

secretary general in fact the british minister for the middle east james cleverley just said annexation cannot go on all sorts of threat from the british government that it might take some sort of action but the odd one out of course is the u.s. the u.s. position very strongly supportive of israel throughout this administration we've seen the decision on the recognition of jerusalem as israel's capital we've seen decision on settlement saying that are not necessary legal we've seen the trumpet ministration say that the golan heights are part of israel so of course we saw the trunk plan which was the most generous plan to the israeli side of any plan proposed at any point in the last 70 or so years so it's pretty clear where the truck ministration is but where is it on the actual idea of annexation the timing and exactly how much might get annexed that is not clear and that's why i think

kelly craft the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. her speech is going to be interesting and important to see whether any decisions have been made whether there is any new information coming out of washington we know there has been intense diplomacy involving the netanyahu unity government and the trumpet ministration in recent weeks and recent days as the clock ticks towards this deadline of july. i can tell you going back to the time when this was 1st suggested many diplomats thought that this was an election gimmick by by prime minister netanyahu because it's something that he's tried before but this time around he said no he's serious and he's going to annex palestinian land it seems he's going to take permanent political control this isn't the same as settlers taking over palestinian villages this is the israelis declaring that this is their land permanently forever james words and strong words that we've heard today should matter they should count as you pointed out there is that one country the u.s.

with its veto in its support of israel what can the security council achieve is it is it more about keeping the issue alive than just trying to put pressure on israel in. well clearly there are some countries that have very very strong on this issue and particularly on the council at the moment you have the south african deputy minister speaking south africa indonesia many of these countries very strongly support the palestinian position so it is possible that countries could take their own unilateral action if fat might matter if it was a bloc for example like the european union but no sign that the is going to launch any sort of sanctions against israel clearly that's how things normally work in the international system if a country is breaching international law there are sanctions put in place against that country but under the u.n.

charter which is 75 years old this week there is an exception for permanent members of the u.n. security council they have a veto in votes and it's that veto that has been because the u.s. is such a close ally of israel has been israel's magic card and i think the reason that prime minister netanyahu believes he can do what he's going to do and doesn't believe anyone's got any power to stop him of course we are only a few months away from a u.s. election be interesting to see what a buyer you do an administration would say about all of this ok james bases that diplomatic editor more from him to come in the next few hours right now though it's hairy for sit in west jerusalem has also been listening. harry. as i said there's a lot of words and a lot of strong words which should stack up against israel and maybe would worry them bartz with the support of the united states and with the new unity government in place there any concerns for them.

well i think netanyahu in terms of these of these words that you're talking about their words of warning of the kind of calamitous consequences there could be for the region and indeed in some of these speeches for israel should the annexation go ahead in terms of israel's own ambitions for better relations with its arab neighbors and the potential for what's nicolo not enough called a descent into chaos in terms of security and social situation in the occupied west bank and that in vision on israel as well but i think these are considerations that netanyahu will himself have been calculating and so the question is whether these very stark warnings will actually make much of a difference move much of a needle within his own personal calculus and i think the answer is probably no and as james was saying the real questions surround what the united states is going to do what it's going to signal that it will support in terms of an annexation move

and indeed what his partner benny gantz his former rival in 3 elections and now his coalition partner and defense minister how he will come on board on the 1st question the united states has been having these talks among senior officials in washington this week about exactly what it plans to do and while the u.n. security council meeting has been going on we've also been hearing from kellyanne conway the advisor to president trump and she has been saying that confirming these talks are being going on and as well as that saying that trump will make an announcement on the u.s. position on exception didn't clarify whether that would be before or afterwards and also said that in previous instances such as the move of the embassy to jerusalem there were all sorts of dire warnings which didn't then pan out so an indication at least that the united states is preparing potentially to greenlight annexation and

as far as benny gantz is concerned his own language. move significantly closer to netanyahu he was extremely stark in his appraisal of the palestinians not negotiating saying that they were trying to drag israel into their own deep expletive when he talked to military journalists on tuesday and saying that if they didn't come to the table israel would have to move on without them so things are lining up for netanyahu it seems as this july the 1st date starts to get closer and closer harry i will stay with you a moment but forgive me if i interrupt you because the united states ambassador will be speaking shortly so i might just have to cut you off in a 2nd. just the idea of a 2 state solution if you wouldn't mind because this is something which all the main speakers talked about in the idea of negotiations is that even an idea which has any legs anymore in israel. well there are some who still cling to it and indeed there are many who feel that without it what is the other option i

mean you may remember that the beginning of the trump administration he said president trump newly inaugurated when netanyahu came for his 1st visit in 2017 said 2 states one state i don't really mind whatever the 2 sides one is fine by me but the prospect of a one state solution which could satisfy both sides is still an extraordinarily difficult one to envisage a one state solution that guaranteed full equal rights for all of its inhabitants threatens the prospect of a jewish state which the israeli government is entirely committed to in perpetuity the prospect of a one state solution that doesn't guarantee that essentially means to people of 2 different classes many people call an apartheid state in prospect so as far as the 2 state solution is concerned the reason that so many people have been voicing this jury in the security council meeting is because really it is seen as the only

viable solution to this long running conflict and yet its prospects have been diminishing ever more rapidly in recent years and the the real worry for supporters of a 2 state solution is that this move annexation will irrevocably change it and make it totally impossible to come back from now the question is whether some kind of incremental strategy i think this is the bet that the netanyahu ministration looks keen to make the an incremental strategy of an exciting parts of the occupied west bank very close to jerusalem close to the green line areas of significant israeli population which even under a 2 state solution had been mooted as potential land exchange areas which would be israel in the future whether they can do that 1st and ride out the initial. the initial opposition and and decrying of that move internationally and make

a significant historical step as far as they're concerned towards claiming israeli sovereignty on these areas without totally attending the entire situation well that's a very open question because as far as the jordanians are concerned any onyx ation is an exception very much so as far as the palestinians are concerned that's the case and indeed from the european nations the arab nations we've been hearing a similar message harry force that is our correspondent in west jerusalem thank you very much for that what we are covering here and this is the representative from south africa speaking at the moment is a meeting of the united nations security council held by t.v. conference video conference on the issue of israel's land an accession planned planets land and its ation in the occupied west bank the next speaker on that grid there of well it's over 15 because it includes the. security council members

and other members of the united nations plus the israelis and the palestinians we now have kelly craft us ambassador to the u.n. and thank you mr matson all for your greeting we appreciate all the hard work you and your team are putting into addressing this continued conflict and i also like to welcome the ministers and the representatives from the arab league to our virtual discussion today peace between the israelis and the palestinians is the primary reason we are gathered here today and president trump has dedicated some much time and energy into developing the vision for peace. the united states cares deeply about the people in the region and we believe that the status quo hurts both the israelis and the palestinians and that no one benefits from the existing situation a perpetual limbo of separation lost opportunities reliance on foreign assistance and repeated cycles of violence war and destruction that is why our team

has dedicated 3 years to finding a way forward for the past failed attempts to an alternate path towards peace and resolution to the conflict president trumps vision for peace as a genuine effort at peacemaking it is designed to lead the sides to a realistic 2 state solution offering a viable path to palestinian statehood and which palestinians legitimate aspirations for independence and national dignity can be realized in a peace agreement with israel president trump stated on january 28th i was saddened by the fate of the palestinian people they deserve a far better life they deserve a chance to achieve their extraordinary potential end of quote. it takes courageous israeli leadership to make the tough decisions and compromises

to reach a settlement this is the path to peace we must support with respect and understanding in an effort to make this happen without dismissing the hard work put in by dedicated peacemakers over the years i think we can all agree that past efforts have not brought the sides closer to peace there has been countless dollars spent international conferences and un resolutions and statements on the issue but little real progress. we believe that only both thinking at this juncture as laid out in the vision of peace what ultimately be the benefit of the israeli and palestinian people we understand that there are elements of our vision that some believe should be adjusted and we clarified on many occasions it is never been our intent to impose a solution again i ask that the international community and the palestinian leadership

not dismiss our vision out of hand and revert to past statements and arguments that have not lead to real peace i believe it is our collective responsibility for both the people of israel and the citizens of a future palestinian state to keep an open mind and willing to break with the existing paradigms to seek resolution to this conflict i understand that many of you have concerns with this issue of the potential extension of israeli sovereignty in the west bank at the same time we ask that you also hope palestinian leadership accountable for acts they are responsible for it doesn't help anyone to look backwards and point to what could have been the palestinian leadership has a responsibility to pursue the prosperity of their people at the end of the day is reverting to old talking points the best we can do as an international community united nations t.v.

archives contains multiple gatherings such as today i think we can do better actually you know what i know we can do better and i think we owe it to the future generations of palestinians and israelis to break the cycle and be a catalyst for change so again we urge the palestinian leadership to look closely at our vision and engage us as we said before our plan it's not a take it or leave it it's not set in stone it's an opening offer it is the beginning of a conversation not the end of one. all of the diplomats lined up here today will have presented or has presented their passionate speeches however not addressing the core issue here the need for palestinians and israelis to work together whether it is condemning settlement activity or any other common criticism the repetitive rhetoric we see in these meetings only and finds tensions antagonizes the parties

and undercuts any chance of real lasting peace the hard truth is not that there will never be a judicial resolution to the conflict and arguments about who has wrong as a matter of international off will not bring about peace this is a complex political problem that can only be solved by negotiations between israeli and palestinians the united states under the leadership of president trump is addressing this core issue by offering the beginning of a conversation and i reiterate the beginning of a conversation we remain open to speaking with anyone about how to bring these parties to the table and we both urged and welcome any and all engagement thank you . telegraphed to the u.s. ambassador to the united nations one of well all of the speakers that you see on

screen a security council meeting in the age of covert 19 where everything is done virtually and that is how they are holding this security council open meeting today on the issue of israel's plans to land in the occupied west bank so all members of the security council speak what we heard there was one of the most important speakers you could say to say the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. alan fischer as our correspondent who is at the white house and was listening to that allan as i say this meeting is supposed to be specifically about the issue of land i only actually caught one reference to it there in a cross speech where she said well we understand you've got concerns but actually you've got to hold the palestinians to account. it's interesting that she says you can't reverse all talking points and in many cases did exactly that the other thing is that she's pushing donald trump's peace plan which you remember was unveiled here at the white house with benny gantz and also benjamin

netanyahu nearby but no representation from the palestinians because the consulted they didn't feel that this was a step forward that it was offering anything new and there's a feeling that by allowing by giving the or key to the israelis to go ahead with an exception which is what seems to be the path that we're all and then that is getting ahead of peace talks says look we would like any opportunity to talk anything to bring these 2 parties together there is a feeling that that is what they are seeing but the actions betray something that isn't quite meeting that mortal. harry force of alluded to this earlier some comments from white house counselor kellyanne conway on the issue we should point out it was you that was speaking to her about that and had that exchange at the white house talk us through it. well let me clarify that it was actually

chris sheridan as a producer i was there i was about to ask the question crispin christian pinball and they had all been a. but he did ask about. the whole idea was about whether or not the u.s. will back an exception we know that the israeli ambassador has been here this week he's been talks talks with gerry krishna of course is leading among other things the drive for middle east peace from this white house we know the president has a news conference in the next couple of hours he's going to be meeting the polish president i will be in that news conference so you can guarantee that that question if we get the chance will certainly be brought up with the president. but kelly on call in we made reference to the fact of the other achievements that she sees that donald trump has achieved while in the white house says there is no greater friend of israel and then to the big unknown so therefore we can only assume that they're

not going to notice that they're against the idea but they're very much in support of the idea this is what you have to see if you look at the difference between what's reported and the reality on the ground in israel they feel like these conversations could even be had without the last 3 and a half years of president trump being the best friend to israel that to quote mr netanyahu that israel's never had whether it's making good on the promise of 8 presidents including president trump republican and democratic presidents all promise to move the u.s. embassy to jerusalem to recognize reason is the capital of israel and he's the 1st one to make good on that promise that he also recognize the golan heights he also has tried to bring peace to the middle east in many different ways but we are having kind of there are conversations being had obviously the president will have an announcement he's talked about this in the past and i'll leave it to him to give you a big announcement very happy those talks continue. she's got

a point when she talks about how there was going to be a huge reaction when the president announced that he was moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem i was in ramallah when the embassy actually opened and there were a number of days of protests but the reality is they were nowhere near as big as sustained or as violent as by those they aware that the u.s. was expecting or had been predicted by many people across the region to them that was a sign that many people accepted this idea and perhaps they are reaching the conclusion that many people they accept the fact that it is really an exception that can go forward that they will see a surge in violence but it's not something that they can't live with to use an old political phrase from british politics many many years ago or it would appear that there is an acceptable level of violence that can be ticket in a situation like this. thanks to alan fischer and also of course our white house

producer chris sheridan there in washington. so a little bit of background here on how we get to this point about an exception the west bank it is a palestinian territory occupied by israel going back to 967 joining that period of occupation israel bulldoze palestinian homes and forced entire communities to leave more than 600000 israelis now live in illegal settlements in the west bank and that includes east jerusalem is reza was face strong international position too it's an expansion plans but in a departure from u.s. policy what alan was referring to don't trump's middle east proposal endorsed and it says back in january it was a joint u.s. israeli committee which mapped out borders where israel would apply its sovereignty prime minister benjamin netanyahu is vowing to bring that plan to a cabinet hearing for approval on july the 1st so a bit of background for you there just before we speak to al-jazeera senior political analyst mo and to sharon you were saying earlier that you thought

actually the speakers who were supposed to take action sounded more like analysts themselves absolutely and i take offense because my job out there we have our own we report we are now allies their support their policy in act policy to action or books you know doctors are you should do whatever but you don't have to take our jobs in a more serious note i think what this boils down to. is really another situation whereby it is rare and the trump administration on the one side and the entire world community is one of the others and i think that's the senate situation is certain and the united states as well as for the international peace and order if you work because really corporate washee group could be struck to any possibility. for the world community for the un security council to take some

actions that everyone understands to be illegal in the gym it and it's been going on for decades and it must stop because israel does live in the region and in the end of the day it's going to have to account for its action when it lives among some 350 or 100000000 arabs in the end of that if this is a threat to peace and security and a bit least in the end of the day this will not get an israel security democracy or whatever you know they like to hide behind and so you would expect you would hope that someone including secretary general certainly the 2nd general of the arab league would say something serious beyond general warnings the u.s. argument and we heard it from kelly cough just a moment ago was that whilst you can be concerned about israel's plans to annex land you should also be holding the palestinian leadership to account for its actions as well what is she referring to that god knows right i mean i

think i mean we don't want to go on and on on some you know personal issues but the american ambassador probably cannot tell where gaza jerusalem is on the map i mean she you know she's not exactly a seasoned diplomat she's basically reading off of a paper probably written by a charter questioner or one trumps with balance on the middle east but be that as it may you can you know how gentle this thing is she tried to defend and explain in her words the thrum peace plan so-called peace plan. some of us who actually looked at this peace plan and look at but and you know government is doing and can trace it back to its origin let me tell you frankly. comes peace crime rates much better than the original language ready people. the israeli version of the peace

plan does not have so much humbug it's not half so much nonsense it's actually straightforward it's big on an extension and it's low small on peace and negotiations and that's what netanyahu wanted him to begin israel has been. building settlements illegal succulents for decades prevent the time have come now that the arabs are divided that the american stand or problem or circumstance behind is her time has come to an extent they think all of the warnings are incredibly doors from european leaders that they are not sensical because and that they don't have leverage it and if they do they're divided in the end of the day it's washington that would impose its will and if washington decides support that now is an exception in that's what will be known bashar a senior political analyst with his take on what we've seen at the security council today thank you my one. and finally here's neda abraham who is on the ground in the

jordan valley in the occupied west bank lest we forget this is where it will actually happen if there is any. of the people in the places needed that will actually be affected what do they think. they are saying that the annexation is an indication whether it happens in one of it to do it in valley or 100 people died west bank and even. though they've been under occupation for decades now i'm seeing the israeli military attempts and the israeli government attempts to evict them from their lands through different matters different maneuvers and they are going. through this thing to the full disk on monday and as you can see behind us now the underage of about their lives have arrived here to say that we are actually need not leaving we are staying in this

land of course when you also give us the names in the street they're not very hopeful of the international community the efforts they say that they have dozens of united nations security council resolutions that haven't been implemented they talk about having a palestinian state they say that the israeli settlements are illegal under international law but on the ground that is where the measures of the israeli family should have been go away he's found me and i want to say that they are not leaving and they are here to say. to the speeches we heard today nader hope you can still hear me but the speeches we heard at the united nations were largely in support of the palestinians but i guess the palestinians are well aware as well that the united nations can actually only do so much as long as there is that veto held by in particular the united states on the security council well the security council can only do so much. and they

have an address. that couple of times in polls they the palestinians you try to do not really rely on the united nations security council however there is a government to me take that this is joined by senior officials from fattah which is the palestine liberation movement as well as the p.l.o. executive committee members and in it the palestinian prime minister mohammed this day you said that the palestinians are encouraged by the international support by the fact that 14 'd members. 15 in the security council are supporting the palestinians they say that's how much they actually he said that the u.s. and israel who stand isolated now in this situation so. cold there is little things can be done from the u.n. security council on the ground palestinian officials tilsley it was a very important that in their fight against this radio keep they should that they

expect that the next station. in the jordan valley for us in the occupied west bank thank you neda the occupied west bank the focus of today's open meeting at the u.n. security council the representative of the dominican republic is speaking right now there are still 123456 members of the security council to speak on this video conference meeting that will be all of the 15 members. who have spoken and then we will hear from representatives of the palestinians and the israelis as well. continuing coverage here on al-jazeera of this u.n. security council meeting there will be more in the news hour in about 25 minutes time with adrian finnegan the stream is coming up next. what was described as the world's longest long downpours the largest exodus since

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