the historic talks 2 years of conflict in afghanistan negotiators from the government and the taliban are meeting in qatar right now. i'm come all santamaria here in doha continuing coverage of those intra afghan talks where both sides say they've come with good intentions but we have come here with good will and good intention to stop the 40 years of bloodshed been achieved with countrywide and lasting peace. and

a host will spare no efforts to support the initiative along with help from the international community. so historic talks aimed at ending decades of war and misery in afghanistan are finally taking place here in qatar this saturday negotiators from the afghan government and the taliban amazing along with the u.s. secretary of state mike pompei oh and the qatari foreign minister more than 6 months it is now since the u.s. brokered its own deal aimed at ending america's longest war that agreement with the taliban paved the way for saturday's discussions for those we want all the people of afghanistan to be reunited under one roof again after more than 42 years of upheavals aggressions jihad and resistance all the negatives we all know what happened to us throughout these years and maybe stand today we now need to address

this unique opportunity to move towards a new future. we can define together we continue the afghan peace negotiation and we try. for peace and quality we will pave the ground in afghanistan some of binge of aid as our correspondent these talks is reported extensively on this for well many years or so and so let's start with. you know what let's start with the fact that they're here the fact that the afghan government and the taliban in the same room literally across the room from each other talking and in the words of the head of the national reconciliation council talking about a lasting and dignified pace. welcom aviv talked about this for a number of years and it finally happened that you saw the former foreign minister

who opposed the taliban government and the co-founder of the taliban who have been locked in battle for the last 20 odd years 19 years 100 plus years face to face in the same room this is something that we've heard about from 3 presidents of the united states and it is finally happening here in the country capital doha a good old sides are expressing some cautious optimism about the future of gun is fun these talks have been months and months in the making we were here in february where there was an agreement between the united states and the taliban that the united states will be pulling out the taliban will not let the afghan soil be used by its fighters or foreign fighters against regional or international allies of the united states and in return release of 5000 prisoners by the taliban by the afghan government in 1000 prisoners released by the taliban yes it has taken months yes there have been many bumps in the road but finally they're here and they're talking

to each other many bumps in the road and many bumps to come i think we have to obviously carry out everything with the fact that even though everyone's talking very positively there's so much yet to iron out and that was the feeling i got from the speech the brief speech given by mother brought of the co-founder of the taliban the fact is we're here we're willing to talk but there's going to have to be some concessions. absolutely there's so many issues which remain to be settled yes it was a difficult process to reach the room but what's going to come out of the room is is uncertain because you're talking about afghanistan being stuck between a republic that the government represents and an islamic emirate that taliban represents completely different systems you're talking about a constitution that the taliban wants to rewrite you're talking about. fate of thousands and thousands of afghan soldiers of the afghan army and tens of thousands of taliban fighters who've been knocked in back to the each other what is going to

happen which side relents 1st which side merges into the other what is going to be the future set up of a political spectrum you have to remember the deadline to sign is not just pashtuns but it is also has others in. other denominations of afghans who are part and parcel of society in the last 20 years that have been progress about girls' education about women's rights about human rights about the ability of the people to come out in the street with the way they want to address themselves those are all sorts of issues which seem very trivial but are going to be long fought over by both of these sites as you mentioned the brother the co-founder of the taliban the head of the political office of the father by saying that yes there is going to be obstacles but like him or all of the speakers has been saying that all sides must grasp this historic opportunity that is in front of them in my proposing that it is

not just you who are responsible for this and it is not just you who are concerned about this it is going to be the future generations of the gun son to come we're going to look back at these talks and say that this is what was the outcome so a not is at stake both sides willing to talk but as i mentioned a not in there not of very very deep divisions a very difficult obstacles and they need to come over to make sure that there is lasting peace in the towns this summer for the benefit of our viewers and this was the phrase you used it was a phrase one abroad are kept using over and over again the islamic emirate of afghanistan what does that actually mean and how could that become a problem going forward. but islamic emirates of a van the son is how the taliban sees a understand when the taliban government through the bickering of factions who were in power in kabul back in 1009 that is what they declared this as an islamic emirate which has an immediate and how to sure of which decides on the matters of

state as a very centralized structure of power which they have stuck on to in these 20 years and according to them they have successfully pushed out foreign presence of by by a stick sticking to that set up and that is something which the afghan government will need to convince them that they will need to go and come into them meaning a mainstream political process might bump a oh very clearly saying that they don't want to dictate what sort of political system they want in a gun son but they want a representative system which respects people's right to express themselves people right to make sure that the choose the people who govern them and who them not just to show rubbish sites and that is the islamic emirate of afghanistan which is the part of mind that the sense of the afghan republic is something which the of gunsight represents and that is the merger which is going to be one of the most difficult sticking points between these 2 sides as both of them see that they are on the right and they need to be respected ok some of invades our correspondent we

will be back with you later on the interim afghan talks here in doha which well it's taken a long time to get to this particular stage if you go bankrupt zalmay khalilzad was appointed as the u.s. special envoy back in september of 2018. u.s. diplomats military representatives and the taliban they held more than a dozen rounds of negotiations here in doha which were we must remember briefly called off by president trump that was in september of last year when taliban fighters killed an american soldier in kabul only days earlier the 2 sides had reached a draft agreement then the formal talks well they got restarted that was in december and the deal was signed in february of this year in qatar that's what milla brother was referring to earlier paving the way for these peace negotiations between the taliban and the afghan government in traffic and talks supposed to start she would

say on the 10th of march but like so much of this year it has been delayed as we pointed out qatar is hosting these talks the foreign minister sheikh mohammed bin up there are many urged all sides to enter these negotiations with an open mind. these negotiations represent a key and sensitive phase to the afghan people to find solutions to all controversial matters i hope you agree with me that today we must overcome the past and its pains and focus on the future in the hope it brings us well surely drawing lessons from the past all of this requires everyone to embrace the future with enthusiastic spirit and a firm belief in the right of the afghan people to enjoy peace security and unity and to follow in the path of progress and never be left behind and as the u.s. counterpart the secretary of state might be on pay it was also here calling the meeting a truly momentous occasion it's taken years of hard work to reach each of you hope

you will look into your heart. each of you carry a great responsibility. but no no that you're not. the entire world want you to succeed and it's counting on you succeeding. so the 4 speakers you've heard from have been here in doha the opening statements are still going on as you see it here being inside here but the rest of the speakers and there are a lot of them coming in virtually of course with the nature of 2021 people not being able to travel so freely upon the big screen we have this is. the foreign minister of turkey if it comes so you. so there being new is that this is the afghanistan level of the 1st daughter who was going to make good the the other that we've got

a good early opposition. and foreign minister and well my brother more or less valuable contributions. or hosting the further. into afghanistan negotiation is a decades long of better than a real chance for peace because of this blizzard of fortunately will not be missed and the negotiation process will lead to our lasting she's a dream and you hope of the c.e.o. or a man democratic afghanistan you are going to see another banners down where all are and speak about a broader sense of ownership 'd of their government and. the rather other kind of people who deserve a nice steady and decent light of the world and they should live the lead again you know there's a still i want a long way with syria challengers humanitarian cease fire must be

a dobro really at the beginning fighting and talking and the dog together the hour didn't object to it shouldn't be any law is but the last thing when a high action and say structures and us are an economic development strategy are 2 factors for such a peace inclusiveness cooperation coordination and panetta doing the new york or the 'd awards are we all desire to now get this done we'll need in the international community it's more than ever. turbulent current indian version of their orders up the bio either in that mission of anything for better or regional company activity there at the moment and construction we are going to do contribution to this process being every possible way including us being one around the negotiations and the largest international because probably getting our hands

down the power of either asia has done the process can be utilized are believed in support of the cause of peace. we are committed to look we are meeting more afghanistan and we continue to stand by. people thank you very much. the foreign minister from turkey offering his support to the audience watching in doha at the interim afghan talks. mr carver so like so many others joining the talks virtually today as is the nature of this year we've got sultan bought a cut in the flesh director of the center for conflict and humanitarian studies that the doha institute joining us from the talks can you hear me right 1st of all . yes i can good to have you with us so everyone who has spoken so far is relentlessly positive do you believe there is reason to be that positive because

it's easy to talk now when the talks between the 2 sides actually happen is still a lot of sticking points. while the fact that they are together today is in itself at a markle event and as you probably know this has taken more than 2 years to arrange for them to come in the same room the 20 years or so of conflict between the 2 sides and before that 2 other decades of conflict across afghanistan left the all sides with a great degree of suspicion of the others they have very very different narratives of what is the conflict about who's a who's right who's wrong and what they'd like to see you coming out of these talks so we have very pleased that that least they have they reached this stage they were not even willing to sit together for a few a few months ago in fact a few weeks ago and this in itself is a breakthrough now

a lot depends on the good faith of the parties coming together and as you heard from secular to some peo and his excellency. shift mohamed and up to. all countries who are supporting this process willing to offer whatever support they need. to make sure that the parties continue around the table and hopefully come up with what both desire and that is peace and stability in the country but as for the talks themselves which will start in doha later. it comes down to these 2 sides doesn't it the afghans and the taliban the other countries can talk about support but really these 2 have to negotiate directly with each other. absolutely until recently as you know the taliban had just used to recognize the government in kabul and refused to meet with this representatives the fact that

they are together today is as i said this so important step forward the government represents the purpose of the law his presence here today is is in itself. an important event he heads the national league conservation council and here he has chosen to head the team in the. opening ceremony. and i think that brings a lot of credibility to the talks and we're very hopeful that there is a good will not only to start to have an opening ceremony and then drag along yeah but both sides are serious too to reach some result so i think would you mind staying there for one moment we've got them shah mahmood who is the pakistani foreign minister about to speak let's have a little listen and we'll talk after that. and a form. or words in their long list.

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pakistan's foreign minister speaking through shah mahmood and the virtual addresses go on at the in traffic and talks here in doha we've got sultan bought a cot with us to keep talking about it i mean i've actually got a list here let me check sultan can you hear me come on here yes i can there we go right so i've got a list here in my hand there's about 18 speakers who will be speaking virtually you could argue someone like the foreign minister of pakistan or the country of pakistan has more at stake in more interest in afghan peace than any other country in the region. yes sure i mean you know pakistan aside from the. complicated history between it and afghanistan and sharing a very long border pakistan is also a host to millions of displaced afghans and of course has been traditionally linked

to the taliban and in the sense of holding them a stranger bases within that country. so we're waiting to hear from further players today. we'll have the iranian foreign minister shortly we'll be hearing from the secretary general of united nations later on as well goes to the point that might pompei are made a little bit early to tell them that the whole world actually wants to see success they and they want to see the afghans do it themselves. so i cannot tell you can you just repeat that i guess. emphasizing the importance of the afghans doing this themselves everyone said we're here to support you and we'll offer our advice but you've got to come up with these concessions yourselves and that won't be easy. sure i think that is a very important they have guns should remain at the center of all this but also we

have to be. truthful to the fact that to the problem not going to stand is not just a local problem this not just be created by different groups of in afghanistan not wanting to live together it has a very important regional international dimension and that has got to be adequate knowledge and has got to be tackled what did very tactfully by including all these actions as endorsers of this process is really to try to open this discussion amongst them and make sure that they are contributing positively qatar is a kind of unique in that it enjoys a good relationship almost with all of those countries if not all of them and have been able really to lobby them. to tire of this to get to this point so it does if it is true that it does and i've got issues but it has a very important vision and international dimension keeping in mind all saw the 911 . events and what followed that of the invasion to afghanistan so what happens

does really have to be does it does have a very important international film a cell phone bought a car so thank you for your thoughts of a cell phone is from the institute director of the center for conflict and humanitarian studies he's joining us today from things the in traffic and talks which are going on here in doha culmination of many years of talks to get to this point between the afghan government and the taliban and so far this morning coming up to 10 30 in the morning here in doha we have heard from the following speakers who have come in person here in doha starting with this. former chief executive of former foreign minister who previously refused to recognize the taliban wouldn't even sit in the same room with him well he's the man sitting there now today and he is the man talking about and i've used this quite a number of times but it was the main push of his speech

a dignified and lasting peace is what he has come to seek here in qatar he said it is impossible for us to go back to the past we'll return to some of the virtual speeches that are being given today and that's not who we were expecting actually we were expecting. the foreign minister of iran i think this is actually the foreign affairs minister from spain at the moment so we'll leave that they will come back once we do hear from java but let's go back to where i was before we store a dollar dollar as i said he's the chief former chief executive and he's now the chairman of the high council of national reconciliation then the next to speak was this man. mullah baradar the co-founder of the taliban again the fact that he's in the room and sitting across from a dollar bill is quite something in and of itself a short speech where he said we have held outside of the deal as per the february agreement that's the agreement with the united states. and talked about an islamic

emirate of afghanistan which is what afghanistan was called under the taliban rule in the late 1990 s. and then after mullah brother might come peo the u.s. secretary of state is also here he talked about a moment where we must dare to hope for a moment where the entire world wants you to succeed and is counting on you to succeed importantly he talked about the need to embrace unity whilst respecting diversity which is going to be i think and let's talk to a somma correspondent about this one of the big issues going forward when the actual talks begin this is all the the speeches if you like the pleasantries the shows of support it's when the actual talks happen that's when we find out who is really willing to make the concessions ossama. but come on that is the big question here in this room now as you meet these people expressing cautious hope that yes it is a historic moment yes it is significant that each started to speak to each other but

now what is going to happen next is going to be what everybody wants to know the afghan government has insisted that what it wants is a humanitarian ceasefire a cease fire they're all duns go silent while they talk and that is something that up and up the looted 2 that they have achieved at multiple occasions in the past they have been able to achieve that during the muslim festivals of the eades they have been able to hold a passion to these the last time these talks were happening so he says that it is possible that he could have a commander to cease fire and that is something that the afghan government delegation is looking forward to the taliban on the other hand knows that its biggest leverage is its fight is on the ground in the last few weeks and seen the taliban stepping up attacks even entering up to live their lives and sense for the town of chair which for the last 2 decades was relatively peaceful so the taliban is going to use got to its maximum leverage making sure. it does not put down its

guns unless it has some guarantees and that goes to show how difficult it is going to be for all of these sides to continue negotiating for them to come to terms with the other side and never give up the put it the age old code that will lead to learn to agree to disagree. some are we have heard and we will hear from a number of foreign ministers from around the world today just a word on one of them we've heard so far the pakistani foreign minister and i said this to sultan baraka arguably pakistan with the most at stake when it comes to afghan paints. when absolutely it is that the country which holds along this border with afghanistan what has been said by the pakistanis is that they want to make sure that peace and stability in afghanistan is a basic tenet of the relationship with which we have a party of each of it but you have a party is in power in congress and the pakistanis have been involved in the afghan

war back from the 1970 s. when the cia led war against the the soviet said that point and then you saw the pakistanis involvement in the so-called war on terror providing logistics and bases and support to the united states and at the same time never severing it ties its ties with the taliban as well and that is something that is that places pakistan in a very unique position in all of this because they want to make sure that there is peace and they want to make sure they want to utilize all of their leverage on the taliban just a few weeks before these talks began today the taliban the negations left for example that is the role that the pakistanis played on behind closed doors in trying to resolve the differences especially the 6 taliban fighters which was the sticking point in funds that said that those taliban fighters who have who are prisoners who have been involved in the killing of that citizen should be released

so a lot at stake here not just because. east side to that but a lot of other movies i'm international have been involved in the last 2 decades you know plenty more to come from osama bin job i had today this saturday at the interim afghan talks happening in doha on the saturday as i said the afghan government and the taliban literally in the same room sitting across from each other talking peace talking about a lasting and dignified peace might pompei the secretary of state and the qatari foreign minister in the room as well a number of other speeches contributing virtually a video link plenty more as a side coverage to come of this story and the rest of the bad news here on al-jazeera stay with us.

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