so for a man this was keen on seeing the debate in congress once again women here say that government is prioritizing the relationship with pope francis who is also argentinean i would add an architect but the fact that now we are hearing the pope is planning to come to argentina next year and the government wants to guarantee those negotiations because the pope is helping with the international monetary fund to pay the foreign debt but women will continue to die so we will continue to demand what we believe is our right. a right that this women say has been denied for far too long. let's take you through the headlines here on al-jazeera now as a diversion says it's taken another city in the occupied nagorno-karabakh region after a 2nd night of fighting with armenian forces the army denies its shelling areas

kilometers away from the disputed area dozens have been killed since violence escalated on sunday robin for us to walker is in georgia's capital tbilisi he says turkey and russia play a key role in the dispute. the expectation perhaps is all the players the powers in the region that have the influence that's russia and turkey which are also rivals and the concern is that they could end up being brought into this conflict i mean already says that turkey is somehow involved militarily but of course russia has its presence you know armenia not in karabakh so either these powers will be caught brought into this conflict or they ultimately will be the ones that would have to thrash out a deal to pull the 2 sides apart but this is early days and at the moment the focus now is on the fighting on the ground. coronavirus deaths have surpassed 1000000 the

u.s. brazil and india accounts and early half of the world's coronavirus deaths the u.n. secretary general described it as a mind numbing milestone he's warning against misinformation and complacency but a russian opposition leaders fact one of skier has met the french president during a visit to lithuania she says emanuel promised to help negotiate the release of political prisoners they were detained during the weeks of protests in bellows against president alexander lukashenko. skier praised nikon's willingness to intervene. in both headlines the news continues here on al-jazeera after inside story back at the top of the hour to stay with us.

a decades old conflict reorganized between armenia and azerbaijan the now going to region is again at the halt of the fighting and many have been killed regional powers are calling for calm but turkey's taken sides will be emboldened by uncle support this is inside story. hello welcome to the program. a flare up of one of the well's oldest conflicts is raising fears of all out war the dispute between armenia and azerbaijan over the

now gone region has left many dead including a child both sides blame each other for starting the fighting on sunday and they've both deployed heavy artillery along the border on monday as a by gen announced it was partly mobilizing its military a minion has already declared martial law and its prime minister is warning of a lot of war. they have a ton of them on target in fact that turkey is maintaining such dangerous behavior is fraught with the most devastating consequences for south caucasus and the adjacent regions international community must prevent with united efforts the dangerous development of events and stop efforts to destabilize the region or. both sides are claiming civilian and military casualties the president of azerbaijan says his forces came under attack 1st. the armed forces of

a many are using various types of weapons including heavy artillery fired on our settlements as well as military positions from several directions as a result of the enemy shelling they are casualties among the civilian population and military personnel this is the disputed region are gone it's internationally recognized as part of azerbaijan but the main area of the region in red is under the control of armenian forces the surrounding territory and green also belongs to the by john but it too is controlled by armenia. hostilities involving a going to cut are nothing new as are by journey and armenia fought a 6 year war over the region that and it in a cease fire in 1904 both sides have accused of violating that agreement over the following years the worst outbreak of violence was into a 1016 when 4 days of fighting left dozens of people that more recently trances

flares in july when at least 16 soldiers were killed the conflict has regional implications to russia has traditionally been an ally of armenia but moscow has joined with other world powers in calling for calm while turkey is back in azerbaijan its foreign ministry has said it will stand by bacco. let's bring in our guests in the van we have to yvonne president of the international center for human development in barco nigga a member of the azerbaijan's parliament and is some board matthew bryza former u.s. diplomat and mediator on the no go knock out of a conflict welcome to the program to the flareups have been on and off for quite some time for decades but what has happened over the last few days that trigger

this confrontation. historically really car issue not the culprit but carbon issue in its weights already then 100 to 2 years starting from 988 months and in 1901 our 3rd collapse of soviet union was no number in a car back republic independence started its aggression and that that for certainly years we have a war which is the per some temporary ceasefire agreement the best one has been signed back in 1904 by the recall excites the government probably probably. has a budget public and armenia republic it this is the only document because 3 signatures these there but after that there from time to time when i was a few that is getting stronger much more money or is able to

use that military force they always initiate some military activity case and it's never been calm and peace and i think at this time there is also the role of charity who support it does it roger was their idea they will be fully back you and india calculations it was the time to initiate the full scale military aggression against outside probably nigga you have just heard want to vote has been saying. yes i heard thank you for having i mean today there's the full current ask ali seymour firing and really any conflict is the result of a series of unproved at that expired media course on a solution is the millions and military targets and actually this has not happened now they go on for the last screaming kids and resulted in the illegal military 20 percent of their reasoning and total ethnic cleaning over the region is from the

mammas interior i'm really surprised that our calling from iranian doesn't economic 1000000 or internationally is placed person refugees who were expelled from occupied syria lists that list began to date what is happening today today is the occupation it's the only one who could be there we have to speak about that iranian occupation is well documented in numerous of the international. council of europe you're right i mean station of islamic cooperation and others and then enjoy your attention to defend that there are 40 man said you are the council resolution question when they're all iranian gentlemen and cite your support me here we are obligated by the way and say steal our interest i mean implementable is a legal settlements on the occupied territory while the international community i mean your misuses situation with the explosion in beirut and the illegal settlement policy the opinion clearly not going to pull all the i mean you know. quite serious

let's not species 3 let's go back to the international law let's people today ok perfect let me go to matthew bryza matthew you've been involved in 1st to try to broker a sperm and a solution to the conflict of nagano. do you have any concerns that what has been happening over the last few days could turn into potentially a full blown military confrontation between armenia and azerbaijan. yeah i do i do have that concern i don't expect it because neither side wants a full blown military confrontation and i honestly don't believe either side could sustain one form for an extended period. but emotions are intense right now on both sides as we're hearing and so i think right now azerbaijan may feel it has a military advantage it has reportedly regained some of the territory it had lost

in the going to car about or in the early 1990 s. and my guess it will continue pressing it what it sees as its military advantage and till it's stopped by armenian forces so we can see an escalation here considerably beyond where it is now but i think at the end of the day both russia in support of armenia and turkey in support of azerbaijan would prefer to see tensions reduce and then i hope eventually be able to bring their respective friends to the negotiating table i would like to spend some time talking about local politics because that would give us more perspective about what's happening now and the reason why our earlier about why now what has happened recently because in summer of 2019 prime minister nicolas and spoke about the need for bringing about change but then he changed that better rick and said that it's about time to unify out of many a way of cut about and what has happened in between the time he has signed the

joint promise in genoa 2019 all the way to was. the last few days. i think the secret in. all these discussions is the way how to for example azerbaijani colleague or even my old friend major brides presenting from their going to sites. like for time i don't know for the last 30 years we are hearing the same stuff la mina refugees and no one is talking about half a 1000000 refugees of armenians from azerbaijan and who started military action while our colleagues forgetting about programs about baku program said about ganja our read that time it has been good about programs who started military there because the request of armenians or the call of armenia certain to go to car back to public

was august peaceful for historical. reunification we sat media now when the rhetorical started to play only one side then forgetting that for resolution so the un 1st of all is referring to azerbaijan to stop military activities and all their budget issue to feel it's action and i always. offering them to read the text in reality and not to use the propaganda but because our discussion is long and after the kosovo nicole question young for sitting down in negotiations that have been always on acceptable positions from azerbaijan definitely would you doing you also strengthening your rhetorical and definitely whatever we think now it would be guys if you are not even ready for discussion come on compromise and you are asking for the wants idea unilateral. kind of

a giving up. for getting it that whatever you change and situation now is just the result of your military aggression definitely it will be. that arminius would be strengthening their hoarding and as of today it would be all this telling them that the guys doesn't matter what kind of a trade shared doesn't matter how much money doesn't matter if you 2 key is saying that we will be slow now on playing the whole a c. one nation 2 state. from once a day they wish into having to state that who is one nation but they're always saying they wouldn't being and then any 2nd armenian education all right that's why it's all these passions brought today sense but just the sake of the point over which i think is the secret is that azerbaijan never wish to really go with the peaceful negotiation i think a day already have a political decision was that using

a military solution and they just all risk calculating which time in their calculations armenia week let's start 1st they done in 2016 we wean them again then they tried this summer in july will we need them again and now to tell us all the support think by its military send every scene and they started again and i believe that would be again ok nigga emotions are very high so both countries are actually in the same feelings of national pride and the need to take revenge as they would like to ask for this. is the political establishment in azerbaijan willing for a compromise anytime soon or do you think that our lows are things which are sick to the point where a compromise want to be on the table and it's time soon 1st of all let me show you something ben did why did you frighten off iranian prime minister she's wearing a uniform military uniform she had to get ready for and she is in our man but can

you please tell me what you see doing in men who are kind of she even yet someone who i think is your as a rich man who can you please tell me they're going to me yet. you are saying that you have nothing to do with the un security council resolutions and once you would be transmitters i just beat up on news today what is he doing in the morning and you please answer my question un security council resolution says clearly state that you have to own me as the we do it from the occupied territories or azerbaijan and since i mean one more thing to show you this image well maybe our house in not allowed is the area you know and there's probably from the border from and from neighboring iraq yesterday it has been peace and 5 people through my untimely life including 2 men seen links to think that we have to start with it and to also

run corn into tonight. michael whom i mean you mention do you really want to discuss what happened in more than 30 years ago what happened in the former soviet union and we're just radiant by k.g.b. let's talk about what you know which was carried out this is the genocide which was carried out during in the end that's all i mean yet which was and remains and managed and committed by iranian military it works and i mean political leader leadership who knows oh if you who doesn't know what you're doing what is the real issue and it was only clean and it will be murder on the whole town journeys died there so let's start with the good and less accurate with the celiac who are dying right now ok ordinary even the frenemy i'd imagine is not fighting on iranian terror alert yet you defend it or that it wants peace you start with leader reasonably recently lands ok matthew well as you know this is such

a complex explosive political landscape what if the city history of the long divide in the region the soviet legacy and benefactors have created the reality of that you see playing out now if the international community has been calling for the need to desk i mean how do you see that translated on the ground what could be the 1st step both parties have to take. full of them to process i think pandora's box is now open and you know that the 2 parties were quite close in january 2 10092 agreeing on a framework to settle a conflict as as as mr butt was tentative and who'd really is a dear friend of mine by the way remembers and at the time you'll remember that he conducted a set of public opinion polls around armenia and what had been agreed by the then armenian president with the azerbaijani president in principle was not acceptable to public opinion in armenia and the same was true in azerbaijan so there's

a framework out there that's been agreed to previously the prime minister question has said over the course of the last few weeks i no longer want to adhere to that previous framework i think to get back to that framework is a way we can get longer term deescalation but 1st what has to happen is the military operations now obviously have to come to an end and as i said in my 1st intervention my sense is azerbaijan is going to push until it feels it has regained a politically significant amount of its territory and is in a militarily defensible position and at that point armenia will feel compelled to counter attack so to be an action reaction cycle and i think in the end it's going to be turkey talking to about who moscow talking to you have on that will push things to be even quieter which is difficult for me to say as a former u.s. diplomat by the way that moscow is going to play this role. to fund prime minister apush in the end came to apollo. brought about

a dramatic change in the country and said it's about time to move forward to change the mentality to open up the political establishment to introduce genuine political reforms to pave the way for a vibrant democracy suddenly he finds himself trapped in what could be the biggest challenge in his political career is a vase one of the reasons why he's trying to sound look like a hard liner in our media because this is the general sentiment and by be doing this he might lose a lot in the near future ok because there was a few questions to me listening to shortly just tossed around return to your question 1st of all if rajani calling don't like to discuss history then don't discuss history. why you this causing some think whatever you signed back in bishkek 9094 just immediately recognize not go to

a bloc republic and get negotiation with them directly our talk would be very glad to speak with directly ask your president to call there directly 2nd there about this for john to end all of this that i think better to ask much ali will not meet what's happening with john lou because of the internal political and back to short comment or about make you. remember this i would also try to remind because he is also long. about cuba as these coalitions and i think perfectly knows that sometimes ali it was not been able to so that compromise sometimes surfside example is not to be able to compromise and even cousin ali if you jr has not been able to agree to that compromise now the issue is here is turning to the real interests oh now we strong their real interest let me answer your question i don't think that

the prime minister. barbe mean you sound. kind of a strong and nationalistic there is almost nation of dreams and this national dream says being possible to come i don't know why the democratic change of scene armenia make someone believe that. if we democratic then we need to give up give up give up you but give up in this regard who would be discussing what the us is the most democratic country in the world then any county or table dust from us should be giving up all right now it's our interest it's our security and it's our possibility to preserve security into region i see you point to point a action action and action which is done by azerbaijan was not really proved did a really interesting end. to see down at the negotiating table for its solution search i appreciate the all of you where it's

a result short answers because we have many other angles to cover nigga there are others who say on the other hand that. is using this for a political purpose he's facing an economic crisis cock covert 19 running around with patients from 19 and his trying to deflect attention by reigniting that fervor that nationalistic sentiment among the us of asia is because he knows people are really upset about the economy. on thursday for i don't like coming back to the people for our democracy. if you need to go i mean you're no leader for senior who can present armenian opposition leader tariana for all these political reasons and you're turning right you know chris here are your former president now i mean i'm asking my i mean you're calling in present so let's not speak about democracy it is as usual i mean you're creating

a smokescreen and you're losing and i don't want to get into a long history of believing there is an army there is not a single senior position in armenia are from presidents including prime ministers here's a deputy speaker we haven't really hear from various or political forces so please let us not speak about the notoriously. i mean it is an extension. of me that. your ideology is still against me burst can you just like me can you answer my question it or can you also make. the. point i wanted just to show you again i'm sorry i have to mean what is to be present the son of iranian prime minister and 2019 he was serving his military in the morning kyra and someone explain me how ok but i presented you can also my question about anything about you have you. come to the counter and granted the solution to the resistance and there is international no please go back to the international the principle of international

and then there will be censorship ok the way to peace the way to be civilian goes through the liberation of our left i wonder who in. very briefly if you don't mind i have to go to matthew matthew. matthew do you think that the minsk group which was established back in the ninety's by the c o s c which is the organization for security and corporation. could be still of the a branch of and platform to solve this particular problem. well as a former u.s. cochairman of that grouping i think at the moment no and i think again pandora's box is open for the moment and this this military engagement is going to run its course for better or for worse and it's tragic for everybody but there will come a time when hopefully the fighting will stop i mean sooner rather than later and

then the sides are going to have to get back to some sort of a negotiating framework right as as von clausewitz the great prussian military theorist of this war is a continuation of politics by other means and so when that time comes then the minsk group again can play that role however russia must be very careful here for russia is seen as intervening to actively on the side in this case of armenia it will undercut its credibility as as as a mediator ok and then the men's group will be hamstrung. and they've got i have this particular question for you about it really appreciate if you could give me and says the less than 15 seconds to fund used to police that diplomacy should be given a chance. always and 1st of all was the recognition that in any way there is no other alternative to the peaceful solution no longer a crowd that in regard of. law must see to work you had need to have an emo

democracy ok unfortunately. took out the countries talking about democracy which you really want and. i think. i give you less than 15 seconds i would like to go to nigger because we're running out of time please or yes i do see that our runyan i do have a running scared right to leave even on the internet and he should pull back to the authorities and we have to go back to international though i didn't intend he's always err i mean you know international law so this is the theme and now we have them where we are always doing hasn't been. a line is international thank you very low and we've all no intention or anything will mean our union not we haven't seen you for years we have to be. very yes as long as he's on the ground thank you thank you i really appreciate lady and gentleman nigga. the rise. and matthew

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paul and untold stories from asia and the pacific on al-jazeera. it's $1200.00 g.m.t. on al-jazeera i'm come all santa maria and these are the headlines says it has taken another city in the disputed we're going to cut about region after a 2nd night of fun thing that armenian forces however a mania denies it is shelling areas just kilometers away from the disputed area dozens have been killed since violence escalated on sunday. reporting now from tbilisi georgia capital he says turkey and russia are playing a key role in this dispute the expectation perhaps the play is the power is in the region that have the influence that.