and if you look at all of the different people there was no transition because they came after me tried to do a coup they came after me spying and my campaign they started from the day i won and even before i won from the day i came down the escalator with the 1st lady they were a disaster they were disgrace to our country and we've caught them we've caught them all we've got it all and tape we've caught them all and by the way you gave the idea for the logan act against general flynn you better take a look at that because we caught you in a sense and president obama was sitting in the office he knew about it too so don't tell me about a free transition as far as the ballots are concerned it's a disaster a solicited ballot ok solicit it is ok you solicit in your ask and they send it back you send it back i did that if you have an unsolicited this sending millions of ballots all over the country there's fraud they found him in creeks they found some with the name trump just happen to have the name trump just the other day in a waste paper basket they're being sent all over the place they sent 2 and

a democrat area they sent out a 1000 ballots everybody got 2 ballots this is going to be a fraud like you've never seen the other thing it's nice on november 3rd you're watching and you see who won the election and i think we're going to do well because people are really happy with the job we've done but you know what we won't know we might not know for months because these ballots are going to be all over take a look at what happened in manhattan take a look at what happened in new jersey take a look at what happened in virginia and other places they're not losing 2 percent one percent which by the way is too much an election could be won or lost with that they'll lose and 30 and 40 percent it's a fraud and it's a shame and can you imagine when they say you have to have your ballot in by november 10th november 10th that means that's 7 days after the election in theory should have been announced ok we have measures how easily that is sorry all run by democrats and some minutes all right here right here emma kratz it's resident ron it's a ring i like i. you're going to pay

a bill to continue you have been charging for months and mail and balloting is going to be a disaster you say it's rigged i said it's going to lead to fraud but in 28 in the last midterm election 31000000 people voted mail in voting that was a quarter more than a quarter of all the voters that year cast their ballots by mail now that millions of malan ballots have gone out what are you going to do about it and are you counting on the supreme court including a justice barrett to settle on a disc yeah i think i'm counting on them to look at the ballots definitely i don't think well i hope we don't need them in terms of the election itself but for the ballots i think so because what's happening is incredible i just heard i read today where at least one percent of the ballots to 2016 were invalidated they they take and we don't like them we don't like it when it rolled out if there are millions of ballots going out i don't know if you do a solicited ballot done it i don't care you know you go and vote asking you about

the fact that millions of people who go on without you go and vote but like i say like you they used to look at the of millions of people he the do chris a solicited ballot we're sending it in this sending it back in you sending they have mehlman with lots of it did you see what's going on take a look at west virginia mehlman selling the ballots if they're being sold him being dumped in rivers this is a horrible thing for a country there is no this is not it is no this is not going to end well they're not going to as is not going to have live state side had not had a lead ballots for the last decade or more 5 including 2 republican states and you don't have to solicit the ballot it's sent to you it's sent to your home what we're saying is they're saying is that it has to be a postmark by the time by election day if it doesn't get into of the 7th 8th 9th it still should be counted he just afraid of counting the votes be counted. no i want

to i want to continue with you i love yeah president biden because he's so right when you make an exact and out ask it isn't easy vice president biden the biggest problem in fact over the years with male and voting has not been fraud historically it has been that sizable number sometimes hundreds of thousands of ballots were thrown out because they have not been properly felt out or there was some other irregularity or that necessary for that deadline so the question i have is are you concerned that the supreme court with the justice barrett will settle any dispute i'm concerned that any court would settle this because here's the deal when you when you file when you get a ballot and you fill it out you're supposed to have an affidavit if you didn't know you have someone say this is me you should be able to if in fact you can verify that you win the before the ballot is thrown out that's sufficient to be able to count the ballots because someone made a mistake and not done in the correct i who they voted for testify say who they

voted for say it's you that is totally legitimate all right explain it does i don't you have i don't if i had ballot and i don't find that in a swamping i assessed and got you you know it can't be done you know it can't and already i write in so i know it balances and i'm sure letterhead i don't have any in the file line of the washington elite and in a ok we can keep talking it's an 8 status quo election workers are prohibited currently by law 8 states from even beginning to process ballots even take them out of the envelopes and slot in on until election day that means that it's likely because there's going to be a huge increase in mail and validating that we are not going to know on election night who the winner is that it could be days it could be weeks would be a month until we find out who would be the new president is so 1st for us or finally for the for the vice president i hope neither of you will interrupt the other will your urges supporters to stay calm during. this extended period not

to engage in any civil unrest and will you pledge tonight that you will not declare victory until the election has been independently a sort of fide president from i about my supporters to go into the polls and watch very carefully because that's what has to happen i am urging them to do it as you know today there was a big problem in philadelphia they went in to watch they were called poll watch is a very safe very nice thing they were thrown out they weren't allowed to watch you know why because bad things happen in philadelphia bad things and i am urging i am urging my people i hope it's going to be a fair election if it's a fair election and what i am 100 percent on board but if i see tens of thousands of ballots being manipulated i can't go along with that and i'll tell you out of that from a communist it doesn't mean are you out there being able to take to it means you have a fraudulent election you said you had already made your ballot in and out that are not equipped to these people are equipped to handle it number one number 2 they

cheat they cheat hey they found ballots you know waste paper basket 3 days ago and they all had the name military ballots they were military they all had the name trump on them vice for anything it's good vice president biden final question for you will you were urged your supporters to stay calm while the vote is counted and will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently sort of yes here's the deal we count the ballots as you pointed out some of these ballots in some states can't even be opened until election day and if there's thousands of ballots going to take time to do it and by the way our military they've been voting by ballots for sense at the end of the civil war in effect in effect and that's and that's what's happened going to happen why was it not why is that for them somehow not fraudulent it's the same process it's honest no one has established at all that there is fraud related to me. in ballots that this somehow it's

a fraudulent process already been established it's take a look at carolyn my own eyes i know you had an opportunity right here on monroe i had they have no idea what hasn't gotten go ahead he has no idea what he's talking about here's the deal the fact is i will accept it and he will to you know why because once through winners declared after all the all the ballots are counted all the votes are counted that would be the end of it that would be the end of it and if it's me in fact for if it was not me i'll support the outcome and i'll be a president not just for the democrats i'll be president for democrats and republicans and this guy i want to see back on and. we can say that's the under that's this is the end of that debate as ballot count we're not only a day or 2 i ought to be continued as in more debates as we go on president trump vice president biden it's been an interesting hour and a half i want to thank you both for participating in the 1st of 3 debates that you have a great doing gauge and we want to thank case western reserve university and the

cleveland clinic for hosting this event the next debate sponsored by the commission on presidential debates will be one week from tomorrow october 7th at the university of utah in salt lake city the 2 vice presidential nominees vice president mike pence and sen kaamelott harris will debate at 9 pm eastern that night we hope you'll watch until then thank you and good night. so you can watch our extended live coverage of the 1st presidential debate between donald trump and is democratic rival joe biden and these are the life pictures from cleveland ohio where that debate has just wrapped up in the 2 candidates have been trading accusations and challenging one another on various issues like the coronavirus pandemic the economy and race related violence there you can see the president's wife melania trump coming up on stage. and the debate ran for about 90 minutes it was broken up into 615 minute segments as we're saying they gave me

heated exchanges about the supreme court health care coronavirus pandemic race relations and recent violence the integrity of the election the records of both men on issues like climate change for example they were questioned by the moderator chris wallace on their plans to revive the u.s. economy amid the coronavirus pandemic and essentially trying to convince the american people why they should be trusted in the oval office so 90 minutes of debate you're looking at the live pictures from cleveland. ohio let's bring in john hendren there's a lot to unpack and john. you know there were interruptions there was name calling turned quite personal the times i mean talk us through some of the key takeaways i know a lot of issues were touched upon. there were

a lot of issues touched upon but that was more of a verbal brawl than a due date the president was aggressive from the start he's the one who's been up behind in the polls the one who really wanted to shake things up and he did he aggressively interrupted biden again and again he interrupted the moderator the moderator had to one point asked him if he wanted to switch seats. and trump and wallace went back and forth trump and biden went back and forth at one point though there were moments of coherence when asked why you should be president and why the other person should joe biden said the nation is weaker more violent sick or under trump trump said under by goo that there would be not just the $204000.00 deaths from the coronavirus that we have now in the united states but $2000000.00 he went on to criticize the vice president's stewardship of the economy under the obama administration and at the end he ended it with

a call for his supporters to go into the polls and monitor the voting now there's a long history in the united states of poll watchers and poll intimidation it goes way back to the reconstruction after the civil war at that time that was largely to prevent black americans from voting that's not what the president was asking them to do but there are going to be people who are reminded of that when they hear him call for people to go into the polls and monitor the election bottom line there were a lot of subjects to discuss but there it wasn't a lot of light shed on many of them donald trump at every point he could would bring up the name of hunter biden that's joe biden's son who got a job in the inner energy industry in ukraine biden at times struggled for words. can you just shout out at one point he had trouble getting words in edgewise i

can't wait to see the count for how many minutes donald trump spoke versus how many minutes joe biden spoke because trump definitely dominated that time. and john stand by for just a moment because let's just go back and listen to some of what the u.s. president had to say while he was defending his handling of the pandemic and he basically said that his actions saved millions of american lives if we would have listened to you the country would have been left wide open millions of people would have died not 200001 person is too much it's china's fault it should have never happened they stopped it from going in but it was china's fault and by the way when you talk about numbers you don't know how many people died in china you don't know how many people died in russia you don't know how many people died in india didn't exactly give you a straight count just so you understand but if you look at what we've done i closed it and you said he sent a phobic he's a racist and he's in a phobic because you don't relate it closed our country not just letterman says you didn't think we should have closed country because you thought it was too it was

terrible you wouldn't close it for another 2 months by my doing it early in fact dr found she said president trump saved thousands of lives do you believe for a moment what he's telling you in light of all the lies he's told you about the whole issue relating to covert he still hasn't even acknowledged that he knew this was happening knew how dangerous is going to be back in february and he didn't even tell you he's on record as saying that he panicked or he just looked at the stock market one of the 2 because guess what a lot of people died and a lot more going to die unless he gets a lot smarter a lot. yeah and john i suppose that what we should be looking out for next whether this debate really helped america and help american voters would have helped these crucial undecided voters.

it was clear that donald trump thought it would help him to be very aggressive in this debate we were expecting that from the start interestingly about 75 percent of likely voters in a monmouth poll said that they were going to watch this debate so it might have been one of the most heavily watched debates in american history but only about 3 percent of them said they thought this might change their minds that's how divided this country is right now donald trump has his voters and they vary from about 37 to 45 percent inch in support of him in most polls right now biden seems to be leading in a number of polls but we always have to be wary of those because in 2016 they were so clearly wrong so it is we'll see in the polls a after this whether a change any minds but the expectation is not that there is going to be a major change because most americans have already made up their minds and those in

the middle tend to lean one way or another in a poll that we've seen but once again i think what a lot of americans are going to say is that this was a brawl and that they they generally don't like that kind of antagonism in polls they're looking for information particularly undecided voters are looking for substance and we got bits of substance there is a difference on coronavirus as you just played there the one inescapable statistic that joe biden did manage to get out there was that the united states has 4 percent of the world's population and 20 percent of the world's covert deaths trump says that he shut down travel from china and that it would have been much worse he says also that under biden. biden would not have been able to maintain the kind of control he has but their plans are very different biden's is far stricter he wants a national mask mandate and he wants other measures like. more of a crackdown across the u.s.

and a uniform plan which is something donald trump didn't do one of the things donald trump often did was whenever someone criticized coronavirus or riots in the streets he would simply point out that those are in places where democrats are the governing body. at the end biden in his closing statement went on to say that he would be a president for the american people not just the democratic people but i'm not sure old timidity this debate really changed a lot of minds most of it was just back and forth and we got a few morsels of real substantive debate in there yeah ok john thank you very much john reporting from cleveland ohio where the debates just said and did a few moments ago between joe biden and donald trump let's bring in laura baron she's the director of the graduate school of political management at george washington university says joining us from washington thanks for your time what's your reaction to what you heard over it and the 1000 minutes debates. well what i

heard was a lot of what your correspondent just described which was a brawl the president did interrupt frequently and he was incredibly combative we also saw former vice president biden been frustrated by donald trump's tactics of continuing to disrupt the entire debate i think the most important thing when you think about who won who lost in some ways president trump wine because there was a lack of substance because so much of this debate was about the fight and not about what was said there is a way in which people will look at this and say hey donald trump prevailed he actually managed to have things go his way that said. former vice

president joe biden was incredibly effective in the few moments that he spoke directly to the camera when he was talking directly to the voters he reminded voters that president trump is not someone that they should trust and in fact really reminded voters of all of the lies that the president has told so it was an ugly debate and i imagine that most voters who are undecided turned it off before even a half an hour expired let's just drill down on some of the specifics and let me ask you about this because people are talking about it on twitter and keeping an eye out on social media and the moderator asked the president or are you willing to night to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and the president said this proud boys stand back and stand by is

getting a lot of flak on the from some people on twitter what do you make of that and are republicans going to want to distance themselves from these comments yet the president did not condemn white supremacy live on air. well the president has consistently kind of given space and room and a nod and only to white supremacist organizations to militia groups that are in the far right extreme and are looking you know to cause disruption and he often points the finger at and t. which is the former vice president points out is actually an ideology not an organized group and it is true that our intelligence agencies here in the united states have actually said that white supremacists and far right extremists

are more dangerous as a threat to the country than anyone on the far left so it is important that the president did not condemn those who align with the republican party but it is also the case that he tried to kind of have it both ways because earlier in the debate he said sure sure i'll do it and then as he was pressed he did not stand by for just a moment so if you may will just. some of what was said during the debate and donald trump was defending his economic record saying that the country is already well into recovery despite fears of a 2nd wave of coronavirus outbreaks what so some. so we've built the greatest economy in history we close it down because of the china plague when the plague came in we closed it down which was very hard psychologically to do he didn't think we should close it down and he was wrong again 2000000 people would be dead now

instead of still 204000 people is too much one person is too much should a never happen from china but what happened is we closed it down and now we're reopening and we're doing record business we had 10400000 people in a 4 month period that we've put back into the work force that's a record the likes of which nobody's ever seen before and he wants to close down the he will shut it down again he will destroy this country he's going to be the 1st president in states to leave office having fewer jobs in his administration than when he became president fewer jobs they want to became from the 1st one in american history secondly the people who have lost their jobs are those people who have been on the front lines those people who have been saving our lives those people who have been out there dying people who've been putting themselves in the way to make sure that we could all try to make it and the idea that he is insisting that we go forward and open when you have almost half the states in america with

a significant increase in covert deaths and covert cases in the united states of america and he wants to open it up more why is he want to open up why doesn't he take care of them or you can't fix the economy until you fix the code crisis so laura tell important points there and they were to all the topics that were raised during the debate one is obviously the coronavirus in the 2nd is the economy let's just look at the economy for a moment because the president does retain a slight lead over joe biden when it comes to the economy how did he do during the debates. well i mean the president makes a consistent argument that he makes that his tax cuts created enormous wealth and in fact was beneficial to the majority of americans but we know from the the analysis of that that that's just not true it is the case that wealthy people and

businesses became wealthier after as a result of the tax cut and that the stock market went up but the stock market isn't the economy and it is as the moderator chris wallace pointed out the case that there were actually more jobs created in the last 3 years of president obama's term than there were in the 1st the rate of president trump's term so before the coronavirus and macare so i think there are there are a lot of misperceptions but it is also the case that sense the congress has yet to pass some sort of 2nd stimulus package that we are now headed tour more economic pain that will be even more widespread in the coming months and what about when it came to the issue of the coronavirus i mean you have $200000.00 americans who have died so far from the pandemic this is

a weak point politically for trump how did he do. well he likes to make this argument that he did the right thing by closing the borders and shutting down the flights with china but it was revealed just a few weeks ago that he knew about this virus and he knew about its severity much earlier than the president had let on many analysts in the united states argue that the summer surge of cases and deaths really could be kind of blamed on the president and his ministrations kind of lack of coherence of a national strategy to shut down but now in the wake of the revelations from bob woodward's book and the tape that had the president speaking on it it was clear that the president downplayed the virus even before the 1st real surge of cases

that we saw in march and april so i think the president is on the defense with this and as we sit here now cases are again rising and i do think that the president has a lot of explaining to do on this point for you is there anything that you didn't hear tonight that you would have liked to hear. well so many things because so much of the debate was really the you know back and forth name colleen the moderator was attempting to get control of the stage so it was really a brawl tonight i think the thing that was affective was that there were some exchanges later in the evening in that 10 o'clock to 1030 time frame where both candidates were able to get out what their plans were on a series of issues pacifically were on climate change and race relations but

it was. much more of a of a brawl and kind of an informative but perhaps entertaining for some even so would you say that it helps american voters decide those who are who are undecided. so that as your correspondent alluded to there are very few americans who are undecided we also know from years of research that the people who tune in and they are usually not those who are undecided most of the time hardest and who are eager to see their candidate kind of do battle are the ones who tour who to manage and write it something like 40 in a bag so i can say that i think very few voters who tuned in lower manhattan they're just coming to the top of the hour forgive me but thank you very much for

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