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to do hygiene policies the 2nd biggest challenge is concerns distinct passages in specially public health systems so we have a region with. more often fried jail health systems very fragmented health systems then you have the 3rd problem which is leadership so you have a government that does not do not believe does not believe in science does not believe in evidence based policies and. only looking at. how to increase its popularity. and let's take you through some of the headlines here now just here and now a bad tempered and at times chaotic 1st debate between the us president and his democratic challenger has taken place in ohio in a discussion on race relations failed to condemn white supremacists and targeted
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what he called the radical left i would say almost everything i see is from the left wing not from the right so what do you what do you know what do you say and i'm willing to do anything i want to see what he has to answer do it say you want to call him what do you want to call him give me a name give me a why is a problem he doesn't like me can die proud process and write proud of i always stand back and stand by but i'll tell you what i'll tell you what somebody has got to do something about anti for and the left because this is not a right as we were i'm israel is a levy i direct this is a lesson we have got right. this is a president who has used everything as a dog whistle to try to generate racist hatred racist division this is a man who in fact if you talk about helping african-americans one in 1000 african-americans has been killed because of the cone the coronavirus and if he doesn't do something quickly by the end of the year one in 500 will have been
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killed one in 500 african-americans this made this man is the is the savior of african-americans this man cares that all this man has done virtually nothing azerbaijan i mean you're accusing each other of firing deep into each other's territory fighting over the god and god about his continuing for a 4th day the u.n. security council is calling for an immediate cease fire leaders of both countries are refusing to hold talks coates has begun 40 days of mourning following the death of its amir 91 year old. has ruled the gulf arab states since 2006 as foreign minister he stated coates foreign policy for more than 50 is its inside story now stay with us. 2 years after the murder of a saudi journalist. the globe with amounts of transparency continue. to mount for
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sure every senior justice. will be killed. on a just. 1000000 lives lost to the coronavirus that's the milestone the weld has no past what emerged from a market in one hand has affected every single part of the planet and with no end in sight to this crisis where do we go from here this is inside story. welcome to the program a 1000000 deaths and counting from kovi 19 it's a milestone nobody wanted to see in efforts to stem the spread economies. around
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the world and still it's continuous there's a resurgence of infections in europe with this direction being put back in place yet the deaths mount up as you can see from the johns hopkins university tracker thousands more lives have been lost and there are more than 33000000 recorded infections the world health organization is warning the number of deaths could double to 2000000 before an effective vaccine is widely available the united nations secretary general antonio terrorist is calling on the world to unite and not lose hope over will this reached an agonizing milestone the loss of 1000000 lives from the coffee 1000 pandemic it's a mind numbing. yet we must never lose sight of each and every individual life there were fathers and mothers wives and husbands brothers and sisters friends and colleagues the pain those mean multiplied by the 7 minutes of these the zs riess of
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infection kept families from bedsides and the process of mourning and celebrating a life will soften maybe impossible the pandemic has changed the world but some places are worse affective than others the us brazil and india account for more than half of the infections and nearly half of all deaths with more than 7000000 cases and 205000 fatalities the united states is the worst hit india is 2nd in the number of infections but has a relatively low death rate given the size of its population europe is bracing for a 2nd wave as winter approaches with lockdowns been lockdowns been reimpose in some countries and on the african continent south africa has been worst affected but infections have dropped there recently. let's bring in our guest instow in the u.s.
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bob arnot is a medical doctor and a former chief medical correspondent be seen use in going to talk india dipstick archer 3 is a medical doctor who works with the calcutta rescue a charity which provides free health care for those in need in lancaster in the u.k. dara gather is a biologist and a lecturer at the lancaster university walk of the program bob with this new somber milestone what is the message was the feeling in the united states of america is the sentiment that this could be a long way to go before a vaccine is developed. sure so how to 1st i thought you gave an incredibly empathetic and. eloquent introduction to this this terrible tragedy that in so many people i think is interesting is on the one hand it's a little off to miss them in that things are changing you know they're much better mass than we have you up to 97 percent protection the vaccine is on the way here we
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figured work arounds in terms of you know good social distancing better ventilation systems businesses are getting up and going and yet we have this tremendous to cotton i'm here in the northeast in our state from our we've a one percent affection rate we haven't had a death since july it's been phenomenal because everyone really plays the game right that is they do the social distancing they're wearing the mask they're very respectful you look at the southern part of the united states especially states like florida where they they really sort of. not worry to mass not distancing going back to the bars going back to restaurants and suffered for 18000 excess deaths so we really have is a very unstable political situation here where we know what to do and we're not doing what we should do but to answer your question more directly it's great hope that the things are we commend we change you know so it can be it's i mean there's a there's a bigger sort of push back to life but just this morning in the new york times they reported how the white house had tried to change the data that the c.d.c.
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had for the rest of children to get them back to school without realizing that there are real dangers children of the children not in large numbers but children as are getting sick and die from the virus so tremendous political turmoil here is the reason they were the number one worst country in the world when it comes to agreement i was about to talk one in detail about the the political aspect of the story that sick of the death rate in the in india is now compared to many many countries but when you look at the curve it has never plateaued it has always been going up picking up is this a source of concern for you are you concerned that in the coming weeks we might see more mortality in india. yes of course i mean it is a fact that the case that ality read has been very low comparatively but we cannot dig that fact to undermine that our case is have also been growing very
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exponentially so it is a matter of concern and it should be a matter of concern because now we are in our down phase 5 i think and with every passing day via opening more and more things bubbling transports are being opened slowly we are considering opening schools and so with every passing day i expect the govt to rise even higher and though loki's the data to read as i think it's so . it is a lot of factors and a major factor is also because we have a major population. in the age group which is less than 80 that is less than the more susceptible each group so that is on our side and you know so all those factors also play a lot of part so i cannot hold that as a very comforting fact and not to dismiss the end daioh raising gov as you said right derek could this be the trend the numbers the figures we're talking about an
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indication prelude to the 2nd wave that we've been talking about for quite some time. i think the world health organization estimate of to date is based on the assumption that we are about to get a 2nd wave which may well be as big as the 1st wave and in most parts of the world we are seeing this 2nd we've started to arrive certainly it's more striking in europe but it can also be seen in the americas as well and as we just heard in places like india it seems that the 1st wave is still still on that we are going to see it come down and so different parts of the world are are proceeding at different rates but. good in the end is that we probably will have maybe another 1000000 deaths before before the status is finished just crossing the 1000000 mile stood means that we have definitely had more dates than we had in 2009 from the swine flu outbreak give even the highest estimates of
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a swine flu what were less than 1000000 so we've already passed at most 2 in but we can from the back into the 20 century there were 2 through pandemics 157168 where the official death talks were rather larger than that either swine flu or cough it did 157 it was maybe as many as 4000000 people died from from asian flu each train 2 is caught and in 968 perhaps 2 and a half w3w people died from home for the d.m. to the interesting thing about those kind enix it is that there was much less overall impact society much least economic watch list collateral damage we might see them or see no with couvade so it's an interesting case it's forcing us to to rethink. the organize itself and response to the other agents that we seem to be learning by the day bob if you look of the studies sticks long the u.s. we've seen the number of infections increase in some states then come down and when
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see it now picking up in some states new york is. fascinating place to. as far as covert 1000 is concerned particularly last few days and we see in that number further spike could it be a warning to the political establishment of the medical community that the worst is yet to come in the u.s. . you know i think there is some optimism that it's somewhat under our control that is when you look at york state you know it was that her city place the united states you know. or 10000 deaths catastrophic i think quoted a very good job aside in the nursing homes you know they really dial back lots of social distancing they went to mass and what not they've been able to control what they now don't have any spikes in manhattan with their very specific neighborhoods and they'll have strong control measures there they have the health authorities out this morning you know the looking a masking of distancing in the way the business of put together i think the most
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important thing hashem is that you know the virus has its own law a bio physics which are very simple and they have changed recently there is one we now believe the viruses arab and what that means is you know we used to think was just a droplet you know drop will come out of our mouth to preview to drop to the ground so that you know masking a little bit just in seems seemed ok now the belief the world health organization holds us up c.d.c. said it is that it may actually stay and live in the areas viral particles should that be true it means that if you're in a closed indoor space you're high risk and i think that's the biggest message is don't get to those close in your spaces and the other is a new paper coming out of harvard in the broad institute showing the phenomena we call super spreaders there is a case of one single individual who came from new york to boston in february at least 98000 cases from that infected much of the area there were public health authorities are saying is listen we should have had
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a very good contact case trace who should have had testy with sharon on incredibly vigorously early in february there to stem the epidemic once you miss it you completely missed it's just out of the bag because of the super spreader phenomenon that's a few months ago we were always asking doctors about whether the. rampant . the tracing and testing capabilities was the best way to contain the stem of the virus now with this new milestone with 1000000 deaths what do you think is your the biggest challenge that doctors are facing in india for example oh see as for the ramping up of the tests it has been a very. successful tactic in my country because what we do is requests of certain individuals and supposing one e.g. a person has tested positive we do not feel the whole state but than that but to kill a building or the area where the causative person is there that particular building
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or localities contained until and unless the last person in that locality tests negative this mode who was initially started by the feet of get along which is a very exemplary and model state of my country and then the other states followed suit so this has you know it has helped us to contain the virus to a great extent and the challenges that we as health workers are facing is of course there i mean we are one of the most i think in the next census we will be the most populous country in the world so we have a large number of patients and not only ovid like you know we have our own endemic problems there's the money you have season coming up now in october dangle set in so we have our own other and to make those who not it could diseases to deal with it so covert is one of the things that we have to fight and then there is as my predecessor bob said you know why are the virus has got more chances to spread in a closed space to india so populated there is more than i think greed portion of
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the population was living in blues band to places in slums and in rural in india so you know for us even overcrowding is a very basic problem that we have to deal with the same happens in the hospitals our health facilities are good but then like there is such a huge population to cater to so that remains our biggest challenge and also to like many hope with every passing the health workers have been testing positive their families have been testing positive so of course i think not only in india but the whole world health workers continue to face the brunt firsthand and you know at this point i just want all of us to remember that we as not as a country as a world at this point in the last weapon. and everything to destroy the earth in one go and then re as and i are planted did not have enough medicines and health workers to counter a pandemic so this is a big big check for us and i want you know we should work better i mean should work
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more and we should work more for what is required more for humanity now is the time derek the conventional wisdom was that as far as test positivity of bait should always be below 'd 5 percent for any government to decide how to move forward if it was to relax the confinement if it was to reopen if we was to tell people you know what it's safe derek is that metric development now do we have to think about something different. well what we saw in europe was that as the 1st wave abated and case number sphero dramatically we scarcely had hit bottom for they started to go up again there wasn't really adamant any flat pedia did western europe where case numbers were sustainably who as soon as long term started to be released the vita simply too could find a teacher of the of the possibility to get more posts and then the number started
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to go back up again not to steep as they did in the spring but they started to go back up steadily and no where in the throes of a of a 2nd wave so it is undoubtedly the case that locked on was a videotaped method of reducing numbers and any bit of it go to that just last week data we can stay and won't go on forever because that is the economic consequences of too serious and it isn't really in an economy versus lives it question a dichotomy as some people were trying to suggest because we're we have a can only damage we have social damage and then we have collateral medical problems we have seen increases now holes in the new diseases unplanned pregnancies all that sort of thing and mental health problems is going on certainly in the u.k. so i think that too to take too much of a of a metric approach to it to say that when we reach 5 percent we can on walk the
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community but when we go above that we have to start imposing welcome measures again it is overly simplistic stream a complex situation bob this this you know ideal environment this should have been purely medical to bait about a disease and the need for a vaccine to protect people unfortunately when politics jump in jump in this is where the lions. and the in the u.s. where you live. you have people dismissive of the threats of kovi do you have and you have those conspiracy theorists and you have a president who says or said initially shouldn't be worried isn't this politically explosive and divisive landscape a detriment to moving forward and containing the spread of covert 19. absolutely you know it's the it's the swaggering sort of you know me 1st person of freedom hoaxers you know conspiracy theorists that have cost us over
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a $100000.00 excess lives i mean look at a couple of examples this morning in new york times again you know it turns out that the white house tried to downplay the data among children who say it was safe to go back to school to press them back in the state of florida the governor there fired the person who does the dash board so he could say it's safe to open up and then last for 18000 people so yes terrible just information campaigns you know the centers for disease control has been deep for me or world wide agency in terms of epidemiology and tracing and testing and whatnot and it's really shamed itself you know by by allowing white house. interference and by telling people things that were true said you don't need to test if you've been exposed to the virus so it's been a terrible terrible times in terms of political turmoil and just to add you know state a careless example which i love you know such an inspirational part of india there
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to think that india has what you know quadruple the population united states and actually has done better you know that there's a more cohesive political message they don't very well in terms of contact a strange thing but just one last quick point and that is in boston the boston homeless a project there they had an outbreak in 100900 people were infected and it was simple contact case tracing and doing what they did in a movie and which is the mobile cabins taking those in contact with the infected and isolating them completely broke the back of the the outbreak there so the tools are there we can when we can't because as you point out we have terrible divisive political ideologies here in the united states making us the number one worst country in the world when it comes to the coronavirus know the preventive measures we have to continue until we develop a vaccine in india what is the general sentiment among the experts of the indians going to. breaking news
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now to take you to kuwait where the ceremony is about to begin to appoint the new emir we're looking at live pictures coming in from kuwait city from the parliament there we were seeing a moments ago pictures of senior kuwaiti officials members of the cabinet in the meeting as they wait for the ceremony to begin as you may know of course the late amir passed away that was announced yesterday. he is to be replaced by cher now laugh at us and he'll be sworn in of course quite has played quite a significant role as an advocate of arab unity and mediation
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let's bring in jamal a show ya'll he's been following gulf affairs and quite for us for a while jamal just talk us through the ceremony that we're expecting to see 1st of all today. well so i mean what you have here is a very unique country in the gulf one that's has a functioning parliaments that has to give its approval for the next leader to be officially sworn in and that is the proceedings that will take place momentarily from now obviously should know while phenomenal the brother of the late amir was named as their parents all the way back in 2006 so it's not a surprise that it will be him however he is somebody who is. advanced in age 83 years old what's will take place will be. essentially a formality today with the. majority of legislators parliamentarians as well as the
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different power bases in society backing him as the next ruler of the country so you have a diverse parliament in terms of political views all now coming together essentially and approving this. succession to the half brother of the late i mean. obviously whilst. usually new incumbent leaders come with a sense of joy this is a lot more of a somber moment because of not just the fact that it is the death of a leader but who that leader was and the special place in the hearts of many kuwaitis that he enjoyed and enjoys even in his passing you know there were they nicknamed him and up to many things one of them was. mir of humanity i mean it was one of the favored ones that's a tease would refer to the late so there will be big parts of the day's
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proceedings obviously be it in the parliament or even later with obviously the barrels and so forth that they catered to. remembering him and paying respects to him i do expect jamal he will continue the sort of direction which the later media took the country in. that would appear so at least based on true main factors one was the ship was picked and chosen by the late there was never any apparent. contradictions in their views were disagreements between their parents and me over the past almost 2 decades now since they took over 14 years since they came to be the 2nd reason is that kuwait. created the political establishment understands the significance in the position
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that it has carved itself as a mediator as a steady hand as a stabilizing force in the region and it is the value in that position or it is in that position that gives it the strategic value and therefore there is no reason to see the part from that obviously there are still questions though as to who he will pick as his heir apparent that would give us more of an idea of maybe if there would be a new change in direction be it political or with regards to other policies and views and if we talk a little bit about the new and media what do we know about his personality and how that fits with the sort of legacy of the late in the who is always seen as the sort of shall we say advocate for calm dialogue to ration rather than excited aggressive actions and statements well for sure i mean if
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there's a couple of things to sort of the obvious is that he is somebody who comes from a security background so he was minister of interior for a while he was the deputy head of the national guard. but that could also be because when. leaders come in as it was the case of back in 2006 they will look for those who are close who they trust most to be. responsible for those established months to avert scenarios like we've seen for example in saudi over the past couple years or other places like that so it doesn't necessarily mean he comes from that security mindset but that is something that is in his background and an experience when we look at stability you look at 2 things you look at the fact that he is advanced in age and therefore is less likely to pursue those most more adventurous or let's say even chaotic and careless approaches that have been taken by some leaders in the region over the past few years but you also look at the nature of course it's
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a country that's experienced the trauma of war that experienced all that came with it in terms of the 1st gulf war and its political establishment are people who lived it they're not new generation of people who don't understand what's happened i mean even those who were children back then are still in their youth today considering the gulf war happened in $1009.00 to $1.00 and therefore that will also play into the maybe insistence true maintain that stability to be averse to anything that's what it calls confrontation and to pursue the legacy of. which was one of mediation not just in the region but as we explained over the past few hours and late last night you know he was received he was involved in conflict resolution in as far as pakistan and bangladesh as far as turkey in bulgaria and other places as well. and you mentioned there the importance of the appointments which now are phenomenal so the whole have to make. that is particularly important
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in quite because one of the things which the crown prince and prime minister will have to do is manage also the relationship with parliament we're looking at live pictures now coming in we should just point out of the parliament in ca it is that is him who says well yes in. and is is indeed. now of. the coming in to begin what we believe is going to be the swearing in ceremony one of the important things you have to do jamal of course is to manage that relationship manage aspects of the government and manage that relationship with parliament try because parliament in court has a much more active role shall we say than in many other gulf arab countries and you know that relationship between the parliament and the monarchy hasn't always been a smooth one they have or i believe speaking now let's listen in to what they're
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saying. by this i think from the verses from the holy koran the holy scripture. all right is just gone a.t.m. g.m.t. we're looking at live pictures coming in from quite city as court begins the swearing in ceremony for the new emir share now of. who is being appointed after the announcement yesterday. and passed away when our listening to the recitation of.
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