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4 years ago 2 police officers from the new hole were killed by a man who claimed allegiance to eisele the new anti separatism law aims to raise religious divisions but for some the proposed legislation is more likely to reinforce them to al-jazeera the new fronts. this is out to 0 and these other top stories u.s. president donald trump has been moved to a military medical center for treatment a day after he and the 1st lady tested positive for corona virus the white house doctor says the president isn't requiring supplemental oxygen but has been given an antiviral cavan 90 drugs. or think everybody for the tremendous record i move into walter reed hospital i think i'm doing very well but we're going to make sure
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things were the 1st lady is doing very well so we're thank you very much appreciate it. tom's talked to said he was fatigued but in good spirits and was being treated with an experiment will antibody it's also been reported that he has developed a mild fever mike hanna has more from outside walter reed national military medical center. now he was brought here says the white house repeatedly in the course of the day out of an abundance of caution however there have been several reports that president trump's condition during the day was a cause for concern that he had nasal inflammation that he had a very sore throat that he was feeling lethargic and clearly the decision was taken to move him to the hospital in order for him to be monitored more closely in order for him as well to be close to the most expert medical staff and turn in case
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his condition continues to deteriorate meanwhile u.s. democratic presidential nominee joe biden says trump's infection is a reminder of how serious the pandemic is he wished donald trump well and said he would withdraw negative campaign ads about the president in other news armenia says he's ready to work with mediators to reestablish a ceasefire in the going to. me and azerbaijan forces have been fighting over the disputed region for a 6 day the us russia and france have called for resumption of talks people in india are defying a ban in the state of us of pradesh following the recent gang rape and death of 2 women from the marginalised islets community the cases of reignited a debate on sexual violence and discriminatory call system those are the headlines on al-jazeera. hi i'm steve clements and i have a question that these days it's hard to filter out the newly sinking track of what's really important to the bottom line tackles the big issues this is shaping
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the united states its people its economy and the way it deals with the rest of the world the bottom line only. one. would see. this is a conflict that started more than 30 years ago as the soviet union was coming to an end ethnic tensions between armenians and azerbaijanis increased over the region of me going to cut off. the majority of ethnic armenians who live in the area demanded the territory be transferred from soviet azerbaijan to soviet armenia but after the kremlin rejected the petition armenia and azerbaijan now former soviet republics were left to resolve the issue on their own. but instead the dispute escalated into a full scale war in 1908 and ended with a cease fire in 1994
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a certain level of stability in the region lasted for more than 2 decades when it going to cut about officially remaining part of azerbaijan but governed by separatist ethnic armenians. there are no mediation attempts succeeded in 2016 and escalation known as the 4 day war which considered the worst ceasefire violation until now. fighting has begun once again killing dozens of people and wounding hundreds more armenia and azerbaijan have rejected international calls for a ceasefire so what would it take to bring the 2 sides to the negotiating table we will find out more is the president of us about. talks about his iraq. president as rb john is how money yeah thank you for talking to al-jazeera very let us hear it's been over 2 decades since the present conflict between our mania and azerbaijan has begun and you've gone through lots of ups and downs but no peace has
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succeeded so far why has this been conflict dragging us for so long the main reason is that i mean you're doesn't want peace they want to keep our lands on the appropriation for ever they don't want to change the status quo and this is a reason why i lasted so long because otherwise if i mean it demonstrated real and acted in compliance with resolution so for main international organizations the conflict would have been resolved many years ago because back in 1903 when armenia occupied part of the territories. security council adopted for a solution demanding immediate. and unconditional withdrawal of their troops from our territories by these resolutions remain on paper music group which was created in order to facilitate to find
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a solution. already. in activity for 28 years and also without any result. therefore who are the main reason this position of our media the 2nd reason is that lack of insistence from the side over there really is a lack of pressure on our media to start implementing resolutions for united nations security council on many occasions i resist issue and we're saying that international sanctions must be imposed on the community to force them to comply with the resolutions and to start liberation our territories but my appeals were not answered properly and now it's what's happening is the result of armenians destructive policies so you say azerbaijan doesn't have the international support
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that it deserves based on the international legal concerns there is not enough practical pressure on the aggressor and here we see the contradiction between international law and what is happening in reality so such an open ignorance of the norms and principles of international law by armenia should be a good indicator that international law doesn't work or it works selectively in some cases as you know security council resolutions are being implemented within days if not hours but in our case it's on paper for so many years well you have accused our mania of starting the war the this conflict actually and many can argue that i mean you're having to turn terry it has and victory of the velvet revolution in 2018 wouldn't risk starting and not conflict what would you say if we look at what our media did after the so-called revolution. during the
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last 2 years and what is a clear we will see that they were. always provoking us and they were aiming at starting a new war and the reason is to disrupt negotiations completely. they made several military provocation against us out of a job on 12 july they attacked our villages and the military positions far away from the region of the conflict in the area of tools. western part of azerbaijan or not i mean as opposed to any border so we had to respond and after we responded and they suffered a bitter defeat these drew and started to plea for cease fire and then i said that we do not have any military objectives on the territory of our media therefore as soon as we pushed them back and they. already realized that it didn't
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work the clashes stopped it lasted only 4 days. then august 25th. group which was sent by armenian army to penetrate our territory and to commit acts of terror was dispersed and the head of the subalterns group was detained and he's now on that investigation he gives evidence that he was sent in order to commit terror acts against those civilians and military said it was not ask who did it was them and then what happened on the 27 so september is a lot you go continuation of this pull this. apart from that if you look at what they have declared what they have stated it's also absolutely clear that they were provoking us. i mean prime minister a year ago made
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a statement that. is our media and this statement makes negotiations absolutely senseless because one of the main. item on the negotiation table is the return of the occupied territories closer to europe and if he says kyra but he said i mean yeah i mean he's understanding is not only when i go to my car about autonomous district but also all the occupied territories that means is they don't want to returns these territories back that means end of negotiations so why would our menu at risk a provocation 1st i think they wanted to destroy completely negotiation process then they wanted to put the blame on nots i say do it and say that look with other budge on this not possible to have negotiations and i think one of the
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reason could be internal difficulties because we know what is happening now in armenia they suffered a very serious political crisis the leader of the main opposition party was arrested 2 days before they launched an attack. previous to presidents and the criminal investigation and actually dictatorship regime had been established in that media all the promises which is their prime minister was giving after revolutions just on paper nothing was implemented they had one of the worst in the world per capita situation of this pandemic so to distract attention and he managed to do and now what he's trying to do to consolidate society in front of so-called of the russian aggression and to strengthen his personal rule what i am demanding is absolutely in line with international law because the whole world recognizes.
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33rd of integrity of azerbaijan and no country in the world recognized so called and i got my car back republic and they need to leave our territory and then the war will stop and there's a conflict will come to end then i think i mean government over estimated their so-called importance on the global arena. mated the possible international support to them and made very serious mistakes provoking us attacking us and now they're suffering the very serious defeat would you accept going to do negotiating table with i mean yeah it's prime minister nicolas but in the end actually negotiations stopped because after his statement that karabakh is armenia i said there is no room for negotiations but of course chairs. making requests to me that.
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show maybe more understanding with respect to. the fact that i mean a government is new and maybe they do not completely control their emotions and their words and i said ok let's strike we want to find a peaceful solution therefore we waited for so many years and probably negotiations would have been continued if not for these destructive approach and after that statement i had a meeting with armenian prime minister but they were absolutely. meaningless the reform all he was telling me is that they are not going to give territories back and then what to talk about so cal must say that as a big john's precondition for coming to a negotiating table is that i mean your withdraws from the occupied territories. actually it was i mean a prime minister who put
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a precondition on us and thereby as they were in other provocation. by saying several months ago he put 7 preconditions store the job actually he wanted to dictate his agenda to us and to the music group and one of those preconditions was that other boy john should negotiate with the so-called nagorno-karabakh authorities and not only us ejected it also means group rejected because it changes completely the format of negotiations which was elaborated for more than 20 years and negotiations are taking place between armenia and azerbaijan so he puts precondition on us and we rejected it with the previous armenian leaders we had a process and we were elaborating the so-called step by step approach otherwise we wouldn't have been in this process for so many years it was not
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a useless time. i think we made a very big progress i mean this process seems to soften and 3 and after pushing young came to power he not only destroys everything was before him and he wants to pretend that that mean year before him did not exist and he is now the creator of a new i mean a he destroyed all the elaborated principles therefore full responsibility is on him and his government and basically reasonable people in armenia they understand it they will they are already making statements alarming are amenable palatial and that this person leads their country to catastrophe we don't have a problem with armenian people they're our citizens we have substance that means living another version and those who live in not go to the core of our area also we can see this in our citizens and we invited them to live together with us as many other nationalities and this is who live in azerbaijan therefore armenia
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should. refrain completely from these provocative statements they should. make new statements that credible is not army and then we will see what a russian mediation workwise are based on russia is one of the countries which is a mediator along with the united states and france of course russia has a special position because it's a neighbor to other budge on neighbor to. the region therefore course has a role and there i would say a capability to mediate are much higher due to objective reasons from those who are situated far away from the region and maybe not completely. know what was happening here during the last decades therefore we think that free countries should continue to overcome together if all
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of them. keep neutrality this is important and we're concerned that just recent days we see some statements which are counterproductive and reach. their most rating a kind of. you know changes of position in neutrality every country can have its position its normal but if you are a mediator in such a sensitive issue you should act in this capacity so there are calls from the international community for a ceasefire but given the latest statements by both us or by john and there are many aside. are you choosing to ignore international calls for a cease fire no we are not ignoring but cease fire cannot be achieved unilaterally i'm just trying to deliver the message to those leaders who called me during these
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days saying that it was not of their buddies who started it we had to defend those selves if we did not respond this time the way we did today we would have had hundreds of victims among civilians they want to kill as many other buddies they can cease fire ok but on one count what conditions conditions must be that they are. we draw from the territories we need our territories back by peaceful means and we demonstrated. 8 years our willingness to have peaceful settlement when we look at the latest conflict as a regional military gain some adventurous around yes exactly as opaque some of the villages especially around the facility strict doesn't mean that those are bit john is not going to withdraw from those areas that they have regained control of no of
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course not because these areas belongs to us this areas areas of our nation lands. where our people lived for centuries and they were all right and destroyed by armenians it's our land we regained it we gained it. by force we regained it giving. victims we will never step back from them and we will rebuild the cities we will rebuild the villages we will return the initial names because that means committee to cultural genocide against the destroyed all the mosques all the occupied territories they keep pigs and cows in the mosques thus insulting the feelings of all the muslims. they change the names of our cities changing the names of our villages all the names will go back we will go back to our lands this is our legitimate right this is
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a historical. task for us and i'm sure we will succeed. the caucasus region is a very complex one. not only in terms of geography but also when it comes to call church ethnicity and social structures and do you believe in people's right to self-determination so the termination is one of the important principles of international law but if you go back to. charter if we go back to health in the final like we'll see that sell the nation should not damage to the integrity of the countries another important point the territorial integrity of the country cannot be changed by force a cannot be changed without an agreement of the people of the country therefore in the case of no go to the quarterback conflict of course the termination is not working their way how armenians want to do it another argument armenian people
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already sealed the crimean they did themselves they have independent that meaning state today armenians live everywhere they live in france they live in america they live in russia they live in the middle east let them ask for so that their main nation is those countries what would be reaction or a sort of use of those countries if armenians would ask the land which is the belong to them and as this land only because they now became majority those countries which are want to give that to me nation to not go to the core of our lives and give part of their land to minas are not going to care about the exam and gives it up so that the relations there i would see would be would be their reaction well the why. it things the crack right now you have the russians iranians the french and the americans signaling concerns over the conflict could this
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conflict ever become a regional one i don't think so i think there is no grounds for that and we are strongly against these conflicts to transform into a regional that's what armenia wants to do therefore the invent fake news about some external support those are by john. but they're the same times they are asking for external support for themselves that's why i have. feelings that the main target now where they suffered a very serious defeat on the battlefield the want to make this conflict regional but i am sure the countries which you mentioned they will never allow it to happen because security in our region is in the interests of all the regional countries and among those countries which you mentioned it's turkey russia iran the regional countries other countries they have nothing to do here in the region and they're
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not regional countries we're not responsible me personally for this composition of the music group of course if we decided today about the composition of any contact group which could facility. piece of course composition would have been completely different i don't want now to specify but some countries would not have place in those groups because of their bias behavior so we need to do everything especially the regional countries to stay away from the conflict not to interfere in any sense to the conflict and give the signal to armenia stop occupation stop occupation and. then you will see the benefits then you will integrate with the regional economic investments energy transportation
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projects which armenia. leadership for many years deprived that meaning from because of this aggression so we need to do everything that this conflict. stops as soon as possible that illusion is found as soon as possible we are not in the position to listen statements or stop it and we will work we will negotiate we will help we heard it many times we don't have time to wait another 30 years the conflict must be resolved now one of our main us claims that ancora is militarily involved in this conflict or that airplanes etc this is false information it has no proofs i already made. statements about that turkey is our brotherly country from the very 1st day of armenian attack from the very 1st hour turkey expressed its full support azerbaijan my brother president at the han many times made very
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important statements that turkey's annexed other by john and other but john is not alone we feel this supports very grateful to our turkish brothers and president and other officials but turkey in no other way is involved in the use of conflict one of the armenian fake news which now all is not all any longer in the media was that turkish if 16 shut down armenians to $25.00 this is fake news where are the proofs no proofs. every plane reach lands and takes off in the computer everybody can see what is happening and i i i wonder why music group courts your countries. france united states russia they do not comment on that they do not comment on these fake news are many also accuses turkey for transferring syrian opposition fighters. john this is fake news
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absolutely this is a fake news as this is that turkish if 16 shutdowns this to 25 this or 25 had an accident i was informed but he's a mountain because of an experience. pilot but they say they have evidence to political with where is evidence. not only media unfortunately president of france made a statement about that and he called me on the 27 seas evening and i said it's wrong it's false and he makes the statement without any evidence. let him give us evidence give us proof he is the only words we can also say many words we don't we behave in a responsible way there is not a single evidence of any foreign presence in azerbaijan we don't need it our media needs it because i mean year population is declining. and it's only 2000000 people
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therefore they themselves now recruit people from middle east and we have evidence is not only what i mean in order and by the way it doesn't make any difference was it of armenian origin coming from middle east or not i mean in origin if anybody comes from outside to fight as a mercenary that should be internationally addressed so it is the 2nd issue is absolutely groundless and we reject them and we demand the evidence is to be put on the table will you also be presenting your evidence on the foreign mercenaries that are many of things we have already some intelligence information and plus i was shown that there are videos in the internet as a people from middle east are sitting together with armenian soldiers and they have the user uniform they have a national flag and they sit together and discuss you know it's not not without.
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war yes but it's enough i think and they must. be responsible for that so could the plan was ever work or is the war on the solution for you diplomacy can work if we will comply with international law or will start immediately withdraw from part of the territories in time table when we were discussing the issues on negotiation table before these government and then when it came to power one of the 1st item was territorial the conflict must be resolved on the basis of territorial integrity of azerbaijan president of us our bridge and have my lianne thank you very much for talking to us in syria thank you. on the next episode of talk to al-jazeera correspondent bernard smith sits down with the armenian prime minister.
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