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so what chance is there and these are our top stories u.s. president donald trump is resting and a military hospital a day after testing positive for coated 19 doctors say he did have a fever on this for teens before being admitted to the walter reed military medical center on friday a present job does not require any supplemental oxygen but he's been given 2 experimental drugs one of them is rentes avail which has been shown to shorten coronaviruses patients hospital stays they want democratic presidential nominee joe biden plans to move all negative ads about trump biden said the president's infection is a reminder of how serious the pandemic is. like to start by our knowledge which are sure all you do is well surely my prayers for the health and safety of the 1st lady president to cruise united states after they tested positive for cuba 90. why weren't you and i approved if you will make a quick get food coverage this is not
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a matter. it's a bracing reminder to all of us we have to take destroyers seriously number of people in india who have died of corona virus is now past 100000 september has been india's worst month with daily cases and fatalities outstripping those in any other country now trails behind the u.s. and brazil you don't doubt measures have come into effect in spain's capital city madrid following an order from the central government under the new restrictions residents in the city will not be allowed to leave the area unless they have to make an essential journey. a 7th day of fierce fighting is underway between military forces from armenia and azerbaijan both sides are reporting civilian deaths and accusing the other of shelling areas. headlines inside story is next. i care about how the u.s. engages with the rest of the world i cover foreign policy national security this is a political impasse here's the conflict are we telling
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a good story. we're really interested in taking you into a place that you might not visit otherwise and to actually feel as if you were there. just a month before the u.s. election president donald trump and his wife melania have tested positive for coded 19 so i will that all affect the most divisive campaign in recent american history this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm pete adult observers of american actions often talk about an october surprise the unexpected events all revelation that reshapes the campaign into its final days but few would could a predicted the announcement that came early on friday president on will trump and
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malani a trump of both tested positive for covert 19 that followed news that trump's top 8 hope picks a contract to the virus the day before will bring in i guess in a moment but 1st this report from rob reynolds the news came in a late night tweet from the white house president donald trump wrote tonight the 1st lady and i tested positive for covert 19 we will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately we will get through this together. it is not known how despite elaborate precautions and constant testing of white house officials the white house press corps and others in contact with trump the president contracted the virus but earlier one of trump's top aides hope hicks was confirmed to have tested positive hicks accompanied the president to the debate in cleveland ohio on
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tuesday trump phoned in to a fox television program earlier on thursday and talked about hicks having been exposed it's a tough kind of a situation it's a terrible bank so i just want to protest and we'll see what happens i mean who knows the white house physician sean conley said trump and the 1st lady are both well at this time and that the white house medical team will maintain a vigilant watch and loni a trump later tweeted we are feeling good trump has several risk factors that put him in danger of complications from covert 19 he is in his bid seventy's and overweight we have to wait for the next few days and. you know for some people get really sick within hours but you know some people don't get sick until week after and still we have the reading be carefully observing the situation trump has declined to wear a mask on many occasions of clothing at rallies where many of his supporters also
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refused to wear a mask. his entourage including family members went masculists at the tuesday debate trump even ridiculed democratic candidate joe biden for wearing a mask as recommended by virtually all public health experts i don't wear mess like him every time you see him he's got a mask he could be speaking 200 feet away from and he shows up with the biggest mask i've ever seen if trump would have become seriously ill and unable to carry out his duties the constitution provides for a vice president mike pence to take over temporarily pence said he is praying for trump's recovery there can be no spin you can be you know harbor ups there has to be clear understanding of what is going on with this person this president united states because otherwise if he's not going past the to take care of the business he will have to be by the 25th amendment transition has to occur. but
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a glaring question now is how the news will affect trump's reelection campaign already trailing nationally and in certain important swing states it would seem that trump can ill afford to stay out of commission for a quarantine period of 2 weeks trump joins other world leaders including brazil's president gyre balsa naro and the u.k. prime minister boris johnson who have contracted the virus worldwide the death toll from cova done teen has exceeded 1000000 rob reynolds al-jazeera. ok let's introduce the panel today here on inside story in philadelphia we've got claire finkelstein professor of law and philosophy at the university of pennsylvania law school in knoxville tennessee we've got jason emmett professor of international law at lincoln memorial university is also
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a former chairman of the young republican national federation and from essex in the u.k. we've got natasha lynn stat professor of u.s. government at the university of essex welcome to you all clear if i can come to you 1st how important is totally see through transparency on the part of the white house moving forward. as very very important because the white house needs to show that they're under control that they are taking this seriously that they care about the people who the president and the 1st lady and hope picks may have infective their rhetoric is badly undercut unfortunately the president's refusal to take precautions his ridiculing as your lead in mentioned of joe biden for taking precautions his attacks throughout this pandemic on governors who put stay at home orders in place the attack on wearing mask the rallying his base
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particularly far right supporters to rebel against these precautions just recently we had the attorney general saying that the requirement to wear a mask was the greatest interference with civil rights since slavery so we've had a lot of rhetoric that is attacking the need to take precautions and this is absolutely critical now for that for the white house but also for the campaign to figure out how they're going to situate themselves relative to this to these attacks because they are a position has now been very badly undercut jason have we got a snapshot or an open window here as well on to a white house in chaos the news of the covert 19 test or having the test before the test result came back positive was a leak in effect and it was caused by or we got that information because
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journalists were drilling into hang on what's going on with hope picks the president is so close to it wasn't a press release it wasn't a tweet from the vice president it wasn't even the press secretary doing an on shuttle news briefing. well well i like to say everything that claims of a threat and are about in the administration what every administration has and i'm and newt big and it's not going to be able to govern. we have a particularly chaotic white house you know where. and i think this will grow 'd in a little bit more chaos let's say the least because i don't think it's the end of who runs the that we know who's been the problem and the track and run errands and i just like to say to my my prayers are with our family and with how quickly everything. and we go it's good for the nation and it's good. and coming to natasha
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in culture so that this idea that hope picks had it she was tested she was tested positive and then she got on to air force one and she traveled with the president and that's crucially important for them clearly but also for americans when it comes to absorbing the general you know antique ovid 19 health message because they have a very close very intimate relationship we're told she's almost like a an adopted daughter to him they really get each other in another life they would be friends. right i mean i'm actually surprised that trump didn't contract the virus sooner with the raid that he was following the rules and never wearing a mask now it's been reported that there were there was constant testing going on of people that are around him but he was exposed to a lot of people that have the virus with the secret service staff or his son's
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girlfriend there are many people that contracted the virus and would have been reported was that he and the people that surround him were being more lax about things weren't wearing masks weren't he protective measures and so obviously he's going to contract it at some point but this present a problem for him because he's been trying to downplay the virus to the american public he said many times this is going to go away it's just like the flu this is no big deal and as the report already mentioned he was making fun of joe biden programming a mask so he's going to have to really work out what kind of messages you want to send to the american public about this now he's trying to project an image of strength of worse and he doesn't want the campaign to be about the virus this really puts a wrench in his can be because he wants it to be about law and order and that is writing where elected to total chaos instead all we're focusing on is the virus and
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this doesn't bode well for him to take only because 40 percent of americans or only 40 percent american see that he's handling the crisis well jason how does he go forward with the election campaign if this is the best case scenario and 2 weeks from now he comes out of locked isolation quarantine he looks a bit peaky he's lost some weight he's a bit pale but he's able to go to one of his rallies he lives eats and sleeps that kind of politics that's his natural environment of course it is but what if he can't do that how does the election campaign move forward. you know i think that's a great question and i think the supporters need the long route i mean the president needs to be around the orders of these 2 weeks are going to be very difficult i think for the campaign i think it's the joe biden campaign is kind of well it will be a virtual campaign whereas the trump campaign has not really adjusted as well into
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the virtual campaigning world but once he gets back on the campaign trail in 2 weeks. i just buying them are really dumb from all that i know run a virus and how to fix the body and obviously i'm not a doctor but there's a days of the 90 minute speeches on his route really long winded the long winded diatribe i've read that's what i think you'll see most or so it's going to be a much different paint and it's going to be a much different feeling rally i think they're back home and. let's go back to what you were talking about at the top of the show you what kind of discussing the optics of the next immediate week or so in theory would days away from vice president pence squaring off against us how can that happen or if it does happen how can that happen with both candidates not being masked up. right well there are 2 halves of this one is the campaign half and the other is what's going on in the white house in the background on the campaign half i'm guessing that the vice
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presidential debates are now debate is now going to be much more important and i am even wondering whether or not the 2nd presidential debate will end up 2nd vice presidential debate so that if the primary candidates cannot debate it maybe the parties decide to substitute another vice presidential debate so i think it will shift the attention to some extent from the presidential candidates to the vice presidential candidates but what you've got going on in the background is a white house that will be in complete and utter disarray 1st of all we don't know how far this virus is going to spread so there have been images playing since this was announced last night of hope it all the various people hope it has been with including jared cushion or so yvonne and jarratt could well end up testing positive
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we know that pence has tested negative but how far will this threat it throws into relief all of the things that democratic governors in particular have been stressing such as the need for testing the need for contact tracing the need for wearing masks the need for staying 6 feet apart not gathering in crowds all things that this administration has been flouting and when you add to that the stories that have come out about jarrett cush nurtures commission that he put together to fight the virus which came up with plans that were later scrapped because they decided it would only affect democratic states or democratic areas it really starts to look as though this campaign is going to fall. natasha are we now in a sense in real time seeing
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a kind of an adopted stance on the part of the wider republican party when it comes to dealing with covert changing i.e. do they have to accept let the science prevail we've got to now see surely every presidential candidate every vice presidential candidate every congressman every senator wearing a mask they've got to allow the science to prevail because they've got to get that message out there that if you're an oil 3 and somebody sneezes nille 2 you can pick it up if you're in an in an enclosed space what comes out of my nose could get you 26 feet away from where i'm standing. well i think you have 2 things here you have politicians in the republican party who have been mostly wearing masks and hearing to guidelines but they have been very vocal about it and that's been one of the problems and i think your question is illustrating the you have the republican base and those that are supporting trump and trump has not encouraged people to wear
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masks and you had attorney general bar as it already going to mention acting like this was a huge violation of our civil rights and we have to be wearing masks and the like so republicans may need to up their communication on the importance of wearing masks that this is not a violation of our civil rights it is actually something we do for the better of the community to prevent the spread this is the one big thing that we can do to just mitigate this crisis and then we may see more republican stepping up to do so they just don't want to go against prop they are so incredibly loyal to him and terms big message this is no big deal it's going to go away let's not take it that seriously but we've seen with the you know the tapes that bob woodward has reported he didn't know it was serious he didn't know it was a problem but he's very afraid of doing anything that would go against what his base wishes are and so we'll see i think most likely going to have more republicans
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coming out in support of massacring him like jason do you think mr trump will get a sympathy to just to push their case and you think you'll get a sympathy between now and the election the reason i ask you that is this boris johnson the u.k. prime minister he came out of i.c.u. came out of recovery and he got a distinct sympathy pounds but he at that point was 3 and a half years from a general election if your guy gets a sympathy bones and goes back on the campaign trail he's days away from a u.s. election or might it backfire against him because people might say well you don't protect yourself and hello you haven't protected the 200000 plus people who are dead in this country so get gone we're going to miss the vice. well let me 1st just say that i believe republican governors republican governor my state not only has had a month long campaign on the importance of learning math in the years gone through our arts and cutting commercial let's play multiple times today with him and other
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various leaders from across the political spectrum out wearing masks and really being an issue as a public face so we can get our physical back open and operating in the new normal so you know you sort of point out there are hundreds and well that's that the governor as well the governor here in tennessee and. as most certainly been pushing back women on the end i met there. to the end of a stint of the about her present shop look. i just i don't i think he has really engender much goodwill. over his time in office that any opinion of him is going to change his or her i think based base and there he will come out and ordering not do think that he risks losing more and that's in the actually game i just i don't see it as mean at an incredibly into character
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for the american people inside there i see that. clint looking forward to november the 3rd and also i guess the inauguration not correct me if i'm wrong here in theory an act of congress can delay a u.s. general election bought the president having to be eva the incumbent again all replaced that is set in stone whatever happens in january it's either more mr trump or it's the new guy mr biden in the oval office but the election itself could in theory be shunted forward. it could be but i do not think this is going to happen the debates can be moved a lot of things can be moved but this general election is not going to be moved i think no matter what happens you know think about the fact that there's already early voting going on all over the u.s. so voting is already taking place we are simply too close to the election to deal lay it. you know if president trump god forbid is deathly ill at that
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time i still believe especially given the fact that it appears that vice president pence has tested negative so there is no continuity of government problem at the moment i do think that voting would still take place and even if it's understood that if you vote for president trump there could be a chance that it will go to vice president pence but there is continuity of government there i think there's every reason to think that the election will take place as scheduled and that it must take place as scheduled the chaos that the country would be thrown into will will it will already i think be a great deal of us we're dealing with a situation in which we have one contested aspect of this election after another from the post office to supreme court decisions about.
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scuse me wisconsin supreme court decisions on the mail in ballots and absentee ballots constant debate about how the election should take place worries about securities and security and foreign influence there as there are so many pressures on this election add to that a pandemic at that a supreme court fight. you know barely a month before the election and now add to that the president with covert to delay the election would simply throw the country into an intolerable level of chaos natasha coming back to you given that mr trump is properly sick given that his wife is properly sick there are so many variables here but i guess there is if we flip
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that around one certainty mr trump now is not going to talk about turning the corner it'll be a beautiful thing it'll just go away he will never poke fun at anyone for wearing a mask ever again he will never turn to a scientific advisor and say i think we can shine a light through the body i think that gets rid of it or you know that perception there was that perception right about march april where he basically said to people the perception was drink bleach some people did some people were hospitalized so i guess that's one certainty that conversation will that conversation is dead and buried. yeah i mean i think this is really gravely difficult for trump on a number of fronts of course it's difficult because he's personally you know he's contracted the virus and he's going to have to tikrit care himself and try to recover and it really may change his words and what he says about the virus but i think as it already mentioned this is really going to affect his ability to
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campaign and that's something that he loves doing he cries when he's on that he need trail and he's coming from behind it's not like he's coasting ahead and sort of assume that most people were going to vote for him and he was going to win and he really needed to add numbers he needed to gain support in some key swing states particularly in the state of florida where it's very tight he absolutely has to win that state this is a state with a good percentage of older voters and he's really losing them where he had won in 2016 by double digits ordinarily. with florida older voters and now he's neck and neck with joe biden this year the coronavirus and how he says handled it is not going to help there so i think it's going to be very difficult for him moving forward because he really needs to add momentum to the campy turn the campaign around that he has any chance of actually pulling out a victory last word on the program to jason jason not wishing to put words into your mouth that 2 main takeaways one where
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a mosque even if you're that guy that loses it in walmart and you end up on twitter going crazy at the woman standing at the front door who wants to set the mosque off where a mosque at the other takeaway is we're into a period of several weeks of us politics going completely nuts. 'd well 1st of all i were mad everywhere when i'm out in public egg eyed peter the master arma i don't like the lack of biden with my skin so i believe in the normal math i strongly encourage anyone watching to wear a mask covering it i mean look at what they eat and it's the only way we're not likely if we get. into some sort of normal secondly american politics is crazy already. i biggest concern out of our national security apparatus and how to really ensure that we are protecting the homeland at
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a period or will the cyber attack escalation around the world happening and right now to us in. my by my biggest concern are in there are any there. is a broader view or implication that the president having. jason clare natasha we must leave it there thanks to our guests they were clear finkelstein jason emma and the tunnel instant and thank you too for watching you can see the show again via the website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion goes well facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter at a.j. the inside story or tweeting us would be about amount to do if you want from the future they'll be on the team thanks for watching for the moment but. i.
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