peoples through mismanagement of the economy and starvation as well as conflict for many greeks the resurgence of fascism as a political force was a cause for national shame but last year golden dawn fails to enter parliament and it has now been condemned for many greeks wednesday's verdict has again put the country on the right side of history jumps out hopeless al-jazeera. let's take a look at the headlines now the u.s. vice presidential debate between mike pence and harris is taking place in salt lake city utah the pace faced off over a number of issues with coronavirus at the heart of disagreements over all the debate was more cool though than that between trump and biden probably has more the thing about the presidential debate was that was such an outlier no one had ever seen anything like that in the history of debates it was more like a wrestling match than a debate so this one was more of

a welcome return to the normal course of political debating scoring some points trying to come up with some verbal zingers i don't think there were any particularly memorable a lines in here that are going to be repeated over and over but i think the debate was much more cordial much more low key much more polite campbell harris took aim at donald trump's transparency and reports the president paid little tanks in 2017 donald trump paid $750.00 in taxes when i 1st heard about it i literally said you mean 700 $50000.00 and it was like no $750.00 we now know donald trump oh. and is in debt for $400000000.00 and just so everyone is clear when when we say in debt it means you owe money to somebody and

it be really good to know who the president of the united states the commander in chief owes money to because the american people have a right to know what is influencing the president's decisions the american people have a president was businessman job creator who's paid tens of millions of dollars in taxes payroll taxes property taxes he's created tens of thousands of american jobs the president said those public reports are not accurate and the president also released literally stacks of financial disclosures the american people can review just as the law allows. for those i headlines the news continues here on al-jazeera off to the story stay with us.

al-jazeera where every. eye on to me ok today the stream ase teaming up with human rights watch to take a look at a campaign to ban the close confinement and she cleaned of mentally ill patients and people around the world let me give you an example of what we're talking about he stepped also in reporting from indonesia. for 5 months now one has been locked up in a cage where he lives in his own excrement his family is sometimes too afraid to feed him after he murdered his mother and nucleated have body he was taken to a mental hospital 4 months later he came back i guess i have there they said

he was cured but after 3 months he became aggressive again a very lightly injured the head of the village with a machete but i cannot his friend and i were also wounded and i'm worried if we will let them out again. so much talk about settling a mentally ill people close confinement of mentally people around the world and how do you still that how it is great to have you here on the string tell everybody you . thank you very large. very well i'm all down so right along with you the movement. on that good night why aren't we. the problem really really reform. that i almost believe it is. good to have you how a new hand i welcome to the stream e.g. should south to the world. i'm no use if you can just call me.

a secretary general or asian federation of psychiatry associations and i'm from indonesia it's nice to meet everyone. nice to me even nice to have you here in the stream and gentle welcome back to the street remind everybody he was. thanks so much every question could be here my name is around every corner and the director of disability rights at human rights watch and today as you alluded to we launched a report called living in chains that documents the practice of shackling people with mental health conditions in over 60 countries around the world. so you can well who pray with your report they're ready to hold up to camera i've actually got it here on my laptops that people can see what we're talking about in close up this report to queue a year. why is it so important what do you want to put it.

well 1st and we've been working on this issue since i went to ghana back in 2011 so almost a decade and it was the 1st country where we documented the practice of shackling and over the years we've looked at this issue in indonesia in somaliland in nigeria how i know is that if you well and we realize that there was this is a global trend and so today we put out a report that shows that hundreds of thousands of people with mental health conditions are psychosocial disabilities men women and children as young as 10 years old. are put in chains at some point in their life or confined in small spaces and. as you can imagine. living in a shed in an animal shelter or forced to eat sleep in urine it in that same tiny area it's inhumane and frankly it's torture as

the u.n. experts call that themselves and. un expert on torture denounce that it's unequivocally. a fact of torture if you put someone in shackles like we've seen these images just now i'm looking at these images and i should say and i have to say that some of the memory really disturbing so be ready for those images because what we're talking about is human rights abuses to people who don't have the ability to nestle protest about it so it. is on twitter and he says underneath this new report that human rights watch is sharing and i put this to you know that i thought this was a thing of the past ash tank break the chains. thank you very much for the report. it has actually become a awareness since 2007 when i read

a report from going to st of health that there were 18000 people with mental health conditions being shackled you know in many forms as me xplain before under social media and also from very poor and. so that's why i mean i had to make a very big at the time of my life i decided to run as a member of parliament because i thought that this problem can only be resolved through regulation such as from the mental health law that's why i ever ran for parliament and then i remember help build charity work in committee and then to be a was passed into law in 2014 however my intention to stop the violation of human rights that happened in indonesia have not entirely succeeded it has been 6 years. that's not a lot in there to be frank relation to relate ministries especially going to help as leading sector so yeah it's actually very important to follow up below because i

know it is very diverse it's very large geographically it's the 4th most populous population in the world and indonesia has a regional autonomy system there are 34 provinces not to mention this 3 villages and really there is democratically elected equal so they do not necessarily care about mental health in general let alone shackling therefore i think that the regulation issued by the president or presidential decree is really needed yes the only tool to breach the government and local governments so they have the same perspective concern aims and also coordination 60 at the time to get the shackling preprogram so i really think we need this presidential level decree as a means of course and if possible law enforcement must also be done in its implementation i know it's a good deal but i much prefer humanity you know as a form of conscience instead of a byproduct of long well yeah family i think i've talked to mike. sherman and so

who are you going to have a yugo. now i want to ask you know i mean you're i think law is important part of one of the key assets from this reported our campaign is that every country should ban the practice of shackling and some countries are working on that our herself is helping to to reach that end in nigeria but you know indonesia's had a ban on tackling said 1977 it's in the laws for more than 40 years and yet the practice still happen so i think in our view there is much more that we need we need. services and support to support for people with mental health issues we need to look at why there shackled in the 1st place it's because there is a statement and shame surrounded by mental conditions there is a lack of government providing services supports and not just spent a whole medical services we're talking about

a holistic approach that needs to be implemented and governments need to invest in job training housing. and ways to keep people out of shackles out of institutions and also instead productive members of their society so it's a much broader. toolkit that we need in order to address what's been a decade long problem in indonesia as you very well know but frankly i mean we're looking at the numbers i mean how do you mention how countries you mentioned that was and i want to bring to the conversation was it because nigerians are in this conversation as well how many let me show you to think that i want to tweet and then once a video from human rights watch about a nigerian healing center that some of my laptop 1st of all with the tweet so this is her room and who knows since we were talking about shackling here that it is a rampant practice in most places in nigeria in spite of inhumane treatment and physical piece associated with it mental health issues are alluding to spiritual

attacks and victims and mostly stigmatized and often not give an awful don't streetman so there's that haroon a saying and in human rights watch she went to so they could nigerian healing center this was just last year let's have a look at what made our feet our chains this way we can't walk around and we just sit quietly and it has been 5 months since the chain was put on my legs it hurts when i walk. so however this is not just nigerians shanta was saying that there is sikhs. that still or have jaclyn and close confinement can you explain to us in the context of nigeria why it happens i don't care if there were a number of things that i thought of. i don't want her and you have you know

the fact that the jury of. them or the like. really have that going on when i. you know the the current trends on mental health especially the human love for health and the cost of the welfare system that has to be incorporated so we have got to go and i don't know how do we also i always say that you can have a conversation around mental health on a special session without also have been a conversation about. structures that i think abortions alone something about that because a lot of times what happens is you know you don't have to concede and eventually you have one concept. about. nigeria and it is a huge deficits for when people go to end times all women to hold support and you have obviously the in fact that includes mental health care for all you know we do long

have mental health are the primary health care levels you know if it was something that was reflected on the national. program and we devised a conflict as well thank you as much as 5 you know the united nations convention on the rights of persons with disabilities is the critical thing we don't see that being reflect that and i just wish i knew something practiced as well i mean of course. just so i think over the another aspect you know the interesting things and some something that i think is to mostly learn just about the legion but about the undecided as well a lot of the for the longest time and so how you know it's part of your how. they were like you know. that it's you know is this the ritual of the what do you do with bill and and push it away and you segregate they change it so that it doesn't affect you over the. case i don't think it. how i'm going to pick up and. yeah i'm going i'm going to guess what if you have

got a computer that keeps pinging and i'm going to ask you to see if you can silence it no but i think it might be you all right maybe people messaging using you on t.v. if you could someone is that would be the best thing ever you were just shooting with you tube ashwani kumar wants to notion and owner of these practices also happening in india a lot of people on you tube right now a chatting back and forth saying this is happening in our country this is happening india and. yes sadly it is happening in india. it's happening in countries all around the world we found in india just in january of last year that we reported that there is thousands of people who were found shackled. in the quote like cattle there tied with iron chains and had lost had locked those are the conditions just in one state and we've been working with local

organizations there again in groups like ours that are people of their made up of people with mental health conditions and that's really important to this work because we need to make sure that we're making we're emphasizing the voices of people with lived experience with mental health conditions in india and elsewhere it's happening in guatemala it's happening in morocco it's happening in pakistan it's happening in many countries across pretty much every continent where we've documented the shackling and it's it's frankly stunned me that you could enter. a facility in indonesia and a facility in nigeria and it's the idea that someone with a better health condition should be chain is it is about treating them less than a human being at the end of the day and. i think that concept is universal and for me that's the most shocking because. people should live in dignity and not in

chains. and i want to share this i'm because we were talking to various mental health advocates around the world and seeker is a global mental health professor from harvard university and he put some context into why this is happening the supplies in 2020 shuttling in close confinement is happening and as she explains gives us some context of this nobody wants to gene a person who is part of a family they do it because they have no choice and it's for the government to provide evidence based and rate based here as a part of the universal health coverage so that people are changed we don't try to people who are suffering from cancer from blood pressure or from diabetes why should we do that for people who are suffering from mental disorders just because their behavior sometimes again be abnormal. the mental illnesses are just like the other physical illnesses and dickon recruiter the people can become all right and

can be a revenue was full and construct a part of society for them sense and for others. none of which will pick up in that you would you know the that resonated with the. i've been listening to howl and also shut up. it's almost the same in indonesia experiences are psychosis in indonesia truly embodied a case of luck black magic and of course defenseless extends well with mental conditions so i present the lack of adequate mental health care services and also in the sky resources us. the ability for families to cope and also the capacity of medical professionals to deliver quality care which in the end leads to the practice of shackling or the presence of imaginary on the treadmill and not

based on clinical reality. or are even if you have access to care and you have this . mental health facility. so therefore i mean this thing still happens in indonesia because of these experiences of psychosis itself. particularly with certain cultural or traditional stepping. we look at living in changes as a reporter the investigation is. also in exposing. the you brought. the countries themselves maybe not know about the mental health practices . in many cases the governments know the communities know but it is a hidden practice it's invisible and so i do think by calling us up this is the 1st global report that shows the scale and the breath of cheney and we hope it does attention to governments to say oh we need to do something about it it's it's

an embarrassment it's it's a human rights violation and there are practical steps you can take and i do have hope you know i this is a man. april 27th and he when i approached him chained to a tree he was wearing just as a very small red cloth around his waist and. the chain was about one meter long and that one meter was the radius of his life there were roosters running around in the same facility that were more free than this man who had a change of this tree for 5 years and we work together with local advocates and people with lived experience and put pressure on the government and i actually came and saw the chains off felix and 15 others in that camp in ghana and i met him a couple bucks later and you could see he had weight he had he was smiling and he was free and you can with pressure actually bring about change and governments

can do things once they're aware of once they're called out on it which is why we need to be out there and not just those of us who are in this field but frankly anyone who's watching the show we've launched a campaign today called hash tag break the chains you can go to break that chains or and you can take a pledge that you are committed to helping end the stigma by and the shame around mental health and to working to call out these abuses and put pressure on governments to to do what they did in ghana to to let felix free but in so. many countries there are still hundreds of thousands of people who are not yet free. let me take you to uganda and this is me ready to disability rights advocate and he talks about how a campaign like break the chains could actually help mentally ill people who are being put in close confinement who are being shackled this is what he told us and

in uganda traveling is a very shrewd. many children milly wouldn't chains missile in the wrong unities where it was to. mentor him that's in your privileged now the fact that we have this campaign or what it. is and in uganda and there's a need to do more traditional healers and religious leaders understand we have and help support these campaign and was a look at human rights to be supportive humorous for us to be supported to change his. hundreds of that and $100.00 m. this time it. pulling their oil. he should have gone straight to the show and say and gender is my thing i do is i. want to straight away as i am to winds money. well it's inspiring to see that

when we join forces collectively we can do so much we can call this out we can put pressure on governments and we can as he said reach out to those who are major influences in in countries like religious leaders football players people like you family who are helping us highlight this issues shine a light on these abuses and can bring about change so i look forward to working with michael and so many others on the ground people like how you have tremendous courage and strength and so many lessons that and that we can learn from them on how to move away from the shackles and restore the dignity i'm very excited very very excited so. really you to break the chain is not that or of you got to go check out the website using our platform for her platform no you will yes you talked at the beginning of our conversation about political will get in

politics in a vault in mental health and that's how change can happen can you tell us any success stories because we're showing. the worst that can happen what about the best. well. there are several initiatives being done in indonesia because i mentioned earlier about how we have this regional autonomy system so i wouldn't really call it a success for me. but at least there's an effort here and there so i notice there is a province in indonesia where the governor is a woman who was once the minister of social affairs situated a program called. i still means shackling in indonesian so this program enables to find out where the shackling occurs including my name address so depression could be found and refer to

a hospital and also continue for care at the rehab center managed by the minister also. but i don't know where this one is going somehow i appreciate the effort being done surprisingly it's being done by a female leader in indonesia and. not saying anything specific about gender issues but i'm just very glad that out of many leaders in indonesia she came up with this initiative. let me bring in. you back to just jump it just highlights also what you believe is that again that's not beneficial to you might be familiar with their i don't know the formal nearly passed out but it's this initiative that you see in the video just there where people are going to door they're speaking to people of find out about a range of health issues or mental health is one of them said in generating mental health into primary health care system and then they're able to detect cases of shackling they're able to educate their vehicle to provide

a link to services and it's a route as i understand it's reached 48000000 households but 70 percent of indonesia which is a great initiative and we've highlighted this in the report as well and we need more up efforts like this and that. and i'm hearing is a good story. will help yes so what i'm hearing is is a hopeful note let me let me continue on that note dr frida committee is a clinical psychologist at the africa mental health research and training foundation she has some ideas about how how do we stop shaklee around the world just ban it and stop it. the more in for parents not. the solution. is broken you have rights. through it if you show. how it stops the. change on her and there.

were also good. rehearsals for us foreigners here. that brings us to the end of the show i have this the mom minute left what would you like us to do in that one minute and we just remind you audience in the here on my laptop out to days ago to act h. w. human rights watch on twitter and then you can see the reporting that they have done over the past year looking at the shocking of people with psychosocial disabilities world like there was a lot of information they're chanting there's they you can be part of the campaign as well it's not just about being on al-jazeera it's not just about being on t.v. or we could be part of the solution how know that santa thank you so much for being on the scene today really appreciate the info that he tweeted to us if you are new

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