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i have had. that we've been away from daily routine. training. on stage say i think the fact that we feen away from it. has made us. appreciate. how much we enjoy. this is these are the top stories that kidnapped molly and politician and a french aid worker landed in mali's capital bamako being released as part of a major presidential change the deal was announced by the country's new transitional government on tuesday the hostages had been held by an alliance of groups linked to al qaida. the us has imposed more sanctions on iran's banking sector it's the latest move to curb what washington describes as nuclear ambitions
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and terror activities the measures blacklist almost all of iran's financial sector . president says he'll resign once a new cabinet is appointed protesters force the resignation of the government on choose day halderman says fail to get enough members together to agree on who should be the prime minister russia says it's obliged by security treaty to prevent a total breakdown in kyrgyzstan. from the capital bishkek seems to me. about how this situation could deteriorate and it seems as if. the president. and said look you've got to play. by the constitution. and it seems like. russia has invited the foreign ministers of amenia and azerbaijan to moscow for
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talks in an effort to end the increasingly violent conflict now mediators from the u.s. russia and france have met in geneva to find a resolution at least 30 more soldiers are reported to have been killed on thursday the organizers of next week's u.s. presidential debate have refused to overturn their decision to hold the event virtually that's despite donald trump's doctor stating in a letter that he would be cleared to resume public activities from saturday his challenger joe biden says the debate should be delayed by a week and held in person something the trump campaign agreed to 6 people have been charged with trying to kidnap the governor of the u.s. state of michigan the f.b.i. says the men were planning to take gretchen whitmer from her vacation home which was both praised and criticized for her strong response to the krona virus pandemic those are the headlines the news continues on al-jazeera after the bottom line.
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pakistan's k.s.c. 136 in the center we bring you the stories and developments that are rapidly changing the world we live in is indispensable to economic activity but in the history of this is the worst thing that's just a fresh look at counting the cost on al-jazeera trainer steve clemons i have a question as we approach a historic election what are america's closest allies thinking let's get to the bottom line. last week we spoke with the former american official who spent his life looking at this country's relations with the rest of the world that would be lieutenant general h.r. mcmaster who spent more than a year as president donald trump's national security advisor this week we're flipping the table and talking to someone who's on the outside looking in let's jog your memory for a moment remember a big story from last year although now it seems like ages ago some would lead to
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confidential memo from the british ambassador to his own government describing the trump administration with words like inept and dysfunctional possibly subject to collapse in disgrace among other really candid assessments it didn't take long for donald trump to hyper react on twitter targeting the ambassador as wacky and launching all sorts of insults and the ambassador then resigned quickly that former u.k. ambassador and our guest today is kim derrick he's coming out with a new book about his experiences during those 3 years in washington collateral damage britain america and europe in the age of trump and master derek great to be with you to talk about your new book coming out but i also just want to get at something that's very deep and it comes out of your observations about the united states and what you were reporting back and i'm interested in the off sure view of our country right now and that is do you see america as broken in half. i assume there are as barry divided as divided as being as it's been for
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decades but i have a fundamental i have a love for america i was an hour and a fundamental belief in american resilience it was a spring back form of problems that we will face huge problems with the time to make the economic destruction in schools 'd. and other issues the politics of divided. so i think. you know fundamentals of the and with the right leadership cute you can scream about it but it does look a true place at the moment there's no doubt what if you had been writing a memo i mean not to hear about the memo you did write but what if you've been writing a memo saying you know everything is just great it's so it it's moving smoothly and on trump's firmly in control and this is all going as democracy goes it's sort of messy but i'm interested if you had been the other more obsequious observer of
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trump in american politics well how that would have gone over. it looks very very strange steve i think my bosses in london. particularly the senior civil servant in charge of the formal office given us the early travails of the true presidency what big news everywhere i mean things like that executive order about banning betting businesses from 7 many muslim countries that was immediately blocked in the courts but not without. courts around the world if i didn't something saying everything is going great. kalou going to 24 hours later the trauma of the 2nd for all say and your right. now all things and you know i had to go back. every 2 or 3 months or so to grieve for was going on and i think people would react to me looked at me rather strangely and maybe wondered
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if i really have bigger problems because our job now is all i mean in public of course you don't say this kind of thing but in private communications to united whole generation ones you tell it as strange as you possibly can and just one of the things that happens now days is brits say to me. what are you so rude about the trouble ministration that never leaps and americans say to me why are you so while. you're ready to laugh. so i had different reactions like the side of the or the pawn but well you know as you say these were sort of assessments and story is nowhere around in the mainstream media in the u.s. every day so didn't feel that exceptional will be here to be reporting it in those terms you know hundreds of french away and said how do you feel about the memo you wrote what did you get right what did you get wrong. june 1st into say as us
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understand that they are this is not the night of the new media it's all of us well there was quite a lot of them and it was some 5 or 6 pages long. us the extraordinary strong supports president trump got from his base about his ability to ride through crises and criticism about his seeming instruct ability and in that in the last i said how in combat things look do this guy having a strong reelection in 2020 just because of the extraordinary from nationals he gets from his. from his from his base. and i didn't get much from sources so i thought it was a balanced picture and i've read it obviously several times since and one that i
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should look at things differently now as i've said a number of times point at least since i'm comfortable with what i wrote and i feel that you know when people. take a view but it was a pretty good prediction of the way things were going full. you know you had this wonderful section of your travel through america that you look for all these opportunities to get out into the sea and go meet real people nashville. you know going down to louisiana to new orleans going to talk to newburgh drivers and going to wisconsin to meeting farmers and pretty much everybody you met as you recounted in the book. had admiration for trump and distain for clinton did i tell us about that. you know 'd that's exactly exactly what happened. i remember to this day. one of my colleagues were on the
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embassy go to midwest a couple weeks before the election and traveling around wisconsin maps with me and saying jews really strange there it consumes used to be 2 or 3 points and opinion polls i travel around was constant i never see a yard sign anywhere the clinton campaign to see hundreds or trauma tents and i you know that that worries me and on election nights that came back to me is still with me and if there's one thing i think of now. romeo. mittimus read things a bit he was paying too much attention to opinion polls around the country about how the election as a team is going to go and too much attention to washington opinion this was 'd a town of course as you know verges much to 93 percent here it comes i'm and not
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you not to those lessons i heard this messages about a year previously when i was doing my private tour around and around with the cell phone around bits of the southwest and jordan places like that so that's my favorite i think in my final evening report before election day too long and i said it everything in terms of opinion polls and pundits points tools a dictionary dot there is still a cost that brings donald trump into the white house and i kind of wish i had gone more strongly on the 2nd than the 1st but you know no one else was 7 because i would look very silly if clinton had won and she won the popular vote by 3000000. but you have a little college system so it was different. tell us about your 1st encounters with . the new team coming in after the doll crop was elected before he was inaugurated
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you had this colorful description of your 1st meeting with gerry pusher. yeah i mean i would like to have met jerry pushed and steve. and met michael flynn we met penny our cold way we met some real figures around the trump team but i hadn't met either. all. they were hot i mean not really any of the embassies in washington had really been in touch with those 2 that being with the president on his campaign trail anyway not not very assessable national of kentucky e-mails from both of them by inch leader is you know that goes to see me up in trucks hour in new york so i went up. and it was shortly up it loose it was during the transition period between election victory for trump and innovation there to be an aversion to emotion issues in new york on his really sentiments where i think all
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the other members of the security council have voted for the resolution to condemn israeli settlement policy and the u.s. integrated with all past presidents and i'm saying normally the u.s. votes against any u.n. resolution that criticizes israel and i wouldn't for a while i hope it would be a good video 1st mission and george bush that he was furious about this hopes to supposition that the u.k. to come along with the rest of the security council and said this will salute the way that he took the ministration and expect its allies to behave so it was meant to be really friendly going to. turn to something a bit of it different i expect it was something unsuitable given long established was policy. which is against the resolution euro against israeli sentence policy but it was really very severe miles and then my mission with steve benen which was
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sergio straight off to his. our tech students that i am i'm too close to full bloom the building i come up the chance of not to say actually i'm in washington has got me all about me sick so i went up the 2 floors instead. up on spec to see michael cohen. are so also giving me his e-mail and i've not met him will be in touch with them by assad regime that's an unduly quick on me she said sure sure come up and the foreign minister to see michael cohen there was a big big corner office in the pen aramic if you are. central new york at a manhattan and i could see through the office to your own is no bottom of the president elect but hung around for a few minutes hoopy i could just sort of going to announce my sauce and the regime that's all immigration all up on the table that a lot of them say hey now buy whatever the truck tire i met the president elect
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today but the telephone call he was on was going on and on long and i was getting quite heated so i call us all going to work so we've seen my who currently mark off enough new suits talk about. american sports baseball it turned out and to invite him to come and play tennis because he was extension to come up to washington for a job in the white house and the my memory from that apart from you know quite a short discussion was these great piles of people everywhere in michael cohen's office covering the decks in the in the shelves and you know lots and lots of paper but i guess i made it up in the prosecutor's office when when michael goss got arrested in the us and he didn't want washington so we never got to play tennis now we are but it was it didn't anyway unfolds places that would be quite as i'd expected to unfold i did meet the president
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a few days later when we have an event for the diplomatic and this is the enemy. in washington. because it was beautiful week but a missile launchers missile who. would basically i mean i want to give you know the audience understanding that you wanted odds with this administration you were you know meeting kellyanne conway you were meeting wilbur ross the secretary of commerce you you had you were you were getting into some of these meetings you were a neighbor of vice president pence they would come to your party so you were doing your job in getting this this going and would love to hear about it a little bit about those interactions and then this. tweet by dawn from comes out where he says many people would like to see nigel farage represent great britain how did how did that make you feel. i mean you're right it was this the jaw store all embassies now masses in washington to get as close to the sunni areas in
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the incoming administration as you can and that's what i was doing with we felt some success or else now it's i've got flu will quite well already. are of the election campaign and you know even if you get to me it's to manager and general flynn and and the other so we felt we had some reasonable cult acts in and i was over in one of them when the president made his tweet about her our daughters as british as a mass of the u.s. i was actually in a moment to do a speech for speech and then in june in our office and my phone was on charge in the hotel room all lights switch son off it was kind of vibration away with lots of messages coming in jones made me aware of or so was half asleep and eventually we got 5 30 in the morning to check or to come in when i saw loose this report
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on the screen in the prison to treat it as you know i wasn't thinking necessary massively clearly or 5 30 in the morning but i thought i do was switch on the t.v. to see how big a story this falls. maybe see breakfast t.v. news at 6 am it was the lead story i thought yeah well that's a story rather that's going to stick around and that there was no comment from number 10 but by the 6 30 am bulletin number 10 important 'd put out their line which was there is no vacancy in washington which of course he was reassuring i mean from korea sure the opposite would be but i never saw. that it would actually lead to a change in the. it was actually the trees or a government that was word was to use the presidents of the us 1st because nigel is
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. a lot of opposing political policy to the conservatives and 2nd because we show almost always close with difference with people who spend their career so this was not a political appointees. to and i was being tossed around. when you leave friends nigel to explain it well maybe it's not going to work are about. you know when i 1st saw the title of your book collateral damage you know another term that we had in oklahoma and texas for that is road kill and one of the interesting the interesting things when you when you read your book is that you don't sit there and whine oh woe is me and and feeling sorry for yourself you're essentially writing the kind of memo i think that you are writing for your government to to all of us and it's not about you but it is about something deeper
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which is are your observations about the rise of populism your worries about you know the values of liberal democracy not only in the united states but around the world but also in great britain and i'd love to get understanding of how you see those tectonics right now because i think that's the really powerful anchor of your book is it is it sending a deeper message. well look thirsty i'm very glad it's appreciative that that message that came through from the book for you because i do think i have very much to whine about you know i had a very traumatic 3 or 4 days i mean we were in touch of it as it was unfolding chad and night who'd done without that but i had an extraordinary lucky career and you know things worked out very well for me i was brought up in in. limited circumstances in what was you would call it public housing we call it comes in i
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was in for much of my years like i'm going to be latino scholarship at that school but i wasn't it was a very privileged and i had a very very lucky to get where i did in my foreign office career i would never have imagined it at the beginning and the loss of moments when january lock that apartment thing so i think i had nothing to whine about and feel sorry for myself about what i want to sue in the book was trying to explain why a bricks it happened why in america donald trump won the election and that you know there is one single message out there is they didn't win leave didn't win the bricks a campaign truck didn't win the u.s. election because for so many people things were going so well the opposite mainstream politics really wasn't and mr politicians really were delivering for enough people otherwise the advice they gave to look for
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a main or 'd you know hillary clinton campaign with wa and few notes know who to computing out about how it is we populous leaderships you know in countries around the world unless mainstream politicians and mainstream political parties try to learn the lessons of where they were going wrong where they were listening to people where they were. consulting where they weren't following the right policies when they were appearing arrogant and out of touch i'm concerned about the plight of ordinary people and it being the key to what i spent most time a lot most about. at least in the context of bricks it and i believe so also in context. of transcript 3 and 2016. that it was about immigration usually big factors in our in our books a vote it was about inequality and the fact. that the original got rich and all the
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whole the poor have stagnated is not called poor are over there i mean the policy is groom over the past past decade or 2 now and another didn't see about change happening so fast that people are conservative with a small c people who are uncomfortable change because change comes across to many many people as a loss and way that people felt and feel i have no way of life has been threatened and while i'm on the rock you know i'm against say like possible views i was i was liberal as anyone i was and a huge fan of brooks's. and i don't agree with many of prison trends policies i try to understand why a lot of people do support them and i think unless as i say mainstream politics render stands well it starts to respond better then there's a lot more mileage in populous and yet to matter we have 2 minutes and i got 3 lightning round questions for you the encodes donald trump's former director of
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national intelligence has wondered out loud whether vladimir putin has something on don trump have you ever found what lattimer putin might have on down from jersey this is my questions of the age and all i can say is everyone was intrigued by. the way donald trump spoke about the way behavior of person but i really. number ition for the media prisoners of us media you had some of your best people trying to explain this as usual was anything to stand on the story putin had some room to talk but i do believe that troubling things i have to say i do. second thing is the era of candid memos from ambassadors back to their governments over. i who know. but you know it caused a huge shockwave around the british foreign service when my memos were leaked it's
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my resignation. and. there's nothing unique about our russian frank memos and if you look at its release you will 'd see a huge pile of u.s. foreign service memos that we don't talk about 10 years ago for the very frank about the government's the dealing with. but didn't you know i think you will have a chilling effect on how people report noticed and lastly i know that you know vice president biden just about as well if not better than you know president trump and his team my question to you is i know you're still keeping your antenna up in american political scene how do you think the election is going to go do you think as you were to as an analyst do you think donald trump may pull this out and be judged by. you know steve i think biden has to be the favorites i would have said through 4 weeks ago it's too soon to tell because you
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know let me we. will debate this with still to come and i didn't think joe biden was brilliant in the primary debates so sure about one supporter you might worry about how he would do in those and donald trump is a very difficult guy to to debate with now but we now had the 1st debate and whether we have a next 2 or law we will see. and i think that. i don't think that the president's illness they are in a virus all those medo up it seems to me to remarkable in quick recovery will it help them because it's caps the pandemic time curve in 19 at the top of the way it's the talk of new cycles well i think you rather have been about about something else so you know i do this on a stage or on some in a book trust will shoot a gun to my hair i have to say i think i think that joe biden will win but you look i'm haunted by going to happen in 2016 so you know i
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have to go back because it takes it to count all trump out because he is you know he is a message indestructibility or i'm listening. indestructibility you heard there donald trump may make it through i just want to tell people this is a really fascinating book to read and to learn from it's also hilarious. in telling your own demise and i should acknowledge to our audience that you and i did talk during those days and i remember telling you don't worry you'll be the only ambassador from england that any one remembers they'll be a book and then they'll be a movie so if you're a cow pasture canberra thanks so much for joining us today you stretches huge question thank you very much so what's the bottom line is the former british ambassador to washington right to be ringing alarm bells about the end of democracy era in global politics and the rise of populist fuelled autocrats like president
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trump and trump clones around the world and are the ties that bind countries together based on liberal values just coming apart it's really an open question right now the united states doesn't act like a country that wants or needs strong partnerships and it can afford to be that way when it thinks no major threats are facing it well china russia iran racial and economic tensions and global warming may see it differently and that's the bottom line. building a wall was the promise made in the bid for the white house 0 tolerance approach the southern border became government policy detaining children and separating families the stark reality that picture too much to bear for many americans in
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a country that was built on immigration. follow the key issues of the us elections on al-jazeera the rhythm of our vital source of source to us to the countries of flows through this new thing called on who can lay claim to a different god given that we found 3 but with this comes a destabilizing rivalry countries suspicious of each other's intentions in the battle for control of the river transporting through consultation was not up to the countries because of some fear of struggle of the nile on a whole jazeera. it was a war that united egypt and syria had against israel but in the heat of the battle that different agendas soon became apparent i suppose that is green news to the friends to see to my 67 when president sadat came to the poet he told us just give me 10 centimeters of land in the east the 2nd of a 3 part series israeli population but told that their troops were on the west bank
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of the su is going to explore the 2nd week of the war in october on al-jazeera. play an important role in acting it would. ringback face. hello i'm a man caught in doha the top stories on al-jazeera. a kidnapped politician and a french aid have landed in mali's capital bamako after being released as part of a major prisoner exchange the hostages had been held by an alliance of groups linked to al qaida as the story of. the end of their ordeal wrapped in a white scarf is french aid workers who keep it were not free at last after
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spending almost 4 year hostage in the hands of al qaeda affiliated fighters in northern mali is desert. shelter.

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