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women want you to grow up proud and strong in an america that believes in. and to a return to civil political discourse and fight like hell on the floor and then they go eat lunch together because they always put their friendship and their country 1st the party that's going to win over these moderate voters and the suburban women voters is the party that able to prove that it's really going to unify the country and help us heal after all the trauma that we've been dealing with for the past 4 years the suburban housewife line is getting donald trump applause you know what women want more than anything else they want safety security and they want to be able to have that house. whether that applause translates into votes for the president won't be known until election day rosalyn jordan al-jazeera washington.
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this is all just here these are the top stories celebrations have begun in chile where it looks like a referendum to change the constitution will pass with an overwhelming majority polls closed more than an hour ago the government agreed to the vote following protests against social and economic inequalities in america and is on the scene human is in santiago. if this were a boxing match. versus the reject has won by a not proud bunch we're hearing everything from 70 to 80 something percent. 15 to 20. really really white matter it's not quite clear yet whether a constitutional assembly will also have to be approved that means when the delegates to rewrite the constitution will be. popular vote or whatever after the. current congress and senate but that's still to come meanwhile people are waiting
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for the final official vote to come out they're coming here in waves by the thousands security forces in iraq are fired tear gas at protesters trying to get into baghdad's fortified green zone the demonstrations against corruption unemployment 1st began a year ago. france has registered a record of new daily infections with more than $52000.00 confirmed cases on sunday several other european countries including italy and spain are now imposing stricter measures as infection rates surge thailand's parliament will hold a special session on monday to try and find a way around the current political crisis there protests have been taking place for weeks demanding prime minister cry a channel boccia resigns those are the headlines coming up next on al-jazeera it's inside story goodbye.
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another arab israeli normalization deal announced but the agreement linking sudan and israel raises more than a few questions is it as substantial as israel's deals with the u.a.e. and beheading and cancer dance government actually follow through this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program. so dan has become the 3rd arab country this year to say it's normalizing ties with israel president donald trump made the announcement during a phone call with the israeli and sudanese leaders on friday the move has symbolic
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significance because it was in the sudanese capital some of them in 1967 that arab countries committed themselves to what became known as the 3 knows no peace no negotiations and no recognition of israel in west jerusalem israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu celebrated changing those 3 no's to yes. you know you'll have to move cotton says yes yes to peace with israel yes to recognition of israel and yes to normalization with israel this is a new era the era of true peace this is a peace that is expanding to include other arab countries 3 of which have made peace with us in recent weeks sudanese and israeli delegations will meet soon to discuss cooperation in many fields including agriculture trade and other important areas for us citizens the sudanese sky is now open to israel. but unlike earlier deals with the united arab emirates and behind in this agreement raises as many questions as it answers why sudan can it's fragile transitional government really approve such
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a sweeping policy change and who will ratify it since sudan currently has no parliament there's a lot going on here and we're going to explore the benefits and risks for all 3 countries involved we'll bring in our guests in a moment but 1st how tickell hand in washington and what morgan and how to him tell us how the accord looks from those capitals. for u.s. president donald trump the deal between sudan and israel is important because the election it's not necessarily that he wanted a foreign policy achievement that he could tout to the crowds foreign policy is barely a factor in this year's presidential election and it's not necessarily to try and get the support of jewish americans because polls show the vast majority of jewish american voters tend to vote democratic the president made clear in his own language what he's doing is trying to shore up his support with christian evangelicals because they say their support for israel is a major factor for them and the president's made clear in every move that is see this pro israel he's doing it to try and shore up his base because he wants to be reelected i'm here to mark and hard to the capital of sudan which became the latest
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arab country to normalize thighs with israel now sudan's decision was largely driven by the state of the economy which has seen inflation risen to never before 220 percent leading to an increase in market prices sudan has also been on the u.s. list of state sponsors of terrorism for 27 years and that has cut it off from foreign trade resulting in shortage of hard currency which made it difficult to import most of the basic commodities such as wheat and fuel resulting in long queues at petrol stations and bakeries as people wait for bread and petrol to be able to continue with their lives now sudan says that the issue of being delisted from the u.s. list of state sponsors of terrorism and normalizing ties with israel are not related but they did go hand in hand because the same day that the u.s. president donald trump announced that sudan would be lifted of the s.s.t. he also announced that the 3 countries have agreed sudan us and israel have agreed to normalize relations so it seems that they came hand in hand and sudan says it's
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looking for its interest but let's equally and economically. all right let's bring in our guests in miami ari ratner a former special assistant for the u.s. state department in west jerusalem mitchell beric c.e.o. of the israeli research firm keven and here in doha will lead medea bo founder and president of the sudan policy forum a warm welcome to you all lead let me please start with you officials in sudan have said that the agreement for normalizing ties with israel will depend upon it being ratified by the country's legislative council this is a legislative council that has not yet been formed so is it fair to say that this normalization agreement is far from a done deal. it's it's a it's a done deal in my home p.c. so far as the season he has been being buying the hit of the supreme council and
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the prime minister and they haven't made it he therefore to divide this. night vying discussing it was the prime ministerial office all of the sobering comments that the sureties was lobbyists that had to. how are they going to mobilize this issue. why now i think they ought to keep an eye on the fact that at this is specific point in history that is there isn't anybody could stop believing the country is going through a lot of common problems a bit more so. i mean i wrote i think then. it's you having me in the airport who really is some sort of. want to discussion with the public eye the prettiest time netanyahu the proper aren't.
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you about it before. any purchase of. renown. he said. it with minorities and so they were made in the line of. sight and this is what's quite recent is this the steps he could have been sustaining such as it is the mitchell the u.a.e. and by her in never thought israel it's a different story of course when it comes to sudan so how significant is this agreement for israel well the 1st thing i would say it's different right now because we're not going to be exchanging embassies this point so we've seen real normalization with the train and and and united arab emirates we've seen as fact an embrace of israelis by the. knighted there are memories and it's really on the path already you know other companies are seated i think relations so assumed a bit different here what is happening here though israel answered on his very
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significant i would call it a triple win it's a win win win for israel the 1st when is that they're off the terror list meaning they're not supporting terror they're not shipping arms via you around from iran to hamas they're not involved anymore that terror trade they're not a base anymore or terror operations that's the 1st one the 2nd when is obviously the normalization with israel the fact that they are recognizing israel normalizing relations and the 3rd when of course is what it does the palestinians meaning it's going to put the palestinians more in a corner each of these countries and normalize relationships with israel it's going to be forcing the palestinians to also at some point come to terms with normalizing with israel so it puts some pressure on them which is good it stops the terror support of terror and it also opens up another country to normalize relations with
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israel is an excellent excellent achievement ari when you look at the video of this announcement of the normalization deal being made at the white house it's really unclear if there are any sudanese or israeli officials that were actually present there with president trump and his staff i mean is this how diplomacy is done. not typically add but trump in ministration isn't that very typical it ministration not on the number levels had a guess in your head a famous line about about israeli politics actually said israeli foreign policy didn't exist all you had was domestic into israeli politics by which he meant that the fractious nature of israeli politics drove the foreign policies which is that how people think of it and and you could say something very similar about american policy that foreign policy right now. of course peace with israel and any of its
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neighbors or even. 2 neighbors as you would call sadat is is a longstanding american goal but the way this is being done here is at all likely and much much more by the pentagon action and even saw on the phone call president trump asking prime minister netanyahu whether his words sleepy joe could do a deal like this that it's it's a mystery not too many are wisely avoided so you know this isn't normal. but it might be beneficial and it's certainly something that. whether the trump mistress and is reelected or whether joe biden his reelected will will be a teacher american policy michel i saw you react when ari was making a specific point there about the phone call between president trump or prime minister netanyahu because there was that moment where president trump used his insole for joe biden and asked prime minister netanyahu if he thought sleepy joe as president trump calls joe biden could have made this deal and then it was an
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interesting response from the prime minister from netanyahu who essentially said hey we're thankful for any american who can help bring peace a lot of analysts thought that was an example of netanyahu really hedging his bets because we're close to an election and he might have to work with joe biden going forward what do you say. well that i mean it's good that now a week before the election he's hedging his bets because he spent the last 10 years of administration fighting with the obama biden is ministration in a kind of friendly manner and then working hand in hand very closely with the trumpet ministration to the point of not just the trump administration by the israeli israeli foreign policy is very much favoring our fear feels more comfortable with republicans in the united states and to a certain extent has been you know not paying enough attention to the democratic side of the political map in the united states and that is
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a problem in general for any country and certainly it has not been a wise policy on the hat behalf and that's and you know how to do so it is good to see that they you know at least in lip service. he has hedging his bets but you know there does seem to be a lot of political jockeying and support in and you know a lot of wake wink and nod stores the republicans and towards trump so i think it was totally inappropriate of president trump to put in you know a political you know plug for himself in a foreign policy all like that. but you know you certainly can't take away the achievements that he has produced in the past few months with united arab emirates with the crane with guitar there seems to be more to come whether he's around this president or not we'll have to see but he certainly has had after after many many years of giving israel many many things on the israeli wish list he's certainly
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come through even in the last few months but some very very big achievement so that he can take away from it but to make it political and to try to make it partisan is not helpful to israel in the long run that it's you know stepped up and didn't fall into that trap when he did we've already heard reaction from some sudanese political parties rejecting this normalization agreement. we've seen demonstrations in sudan against the deal as well how unpopular is it in sudan is is very unpopular apart from the presumption was an unprofessional manner who switch a president from the numbers this is. the normalization with this site it was the zionists it was made as a condition for. being the biggest it is from political heart and here is this but when you look and 2 whoever is. talking to he was talking to out there that that
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not of the top 100 is that you know aside that figure others are accused of having committed or to keep on genocide. if you look at their current system and not the hardware to see that this was nearing of the machinery or of the software allowed even so that is a big city even to. to want to launch terrorist attacks and it is i think a nuisance sort of a crime to. prosecute you know some weapons to hamas through using this is an easy somebody i think. which you know ricin was cause you seem to miss so i think it's pretty enormous for president. introduced explain some of.
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the u.s. distance of them because. this new. rules you would indicate that he be. against it so if he is the beauty of this is the i have a real i can. sure of the. heart and soul. this. was done in such a way that. i don't think that removing the scene would be the whole of the. ari has the trumpet ministration actually remove sudan from the list of state sponsors of terrorism and if not what are the commitments sudan needs to meet now in order to have that done. you know it's it's it's a it's a process that believes i am not an expert on terrorists i mean the thing that big ministration designates and they should have it simple it's not something that has
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to go to congress for instance and they should have a simple. designation. air designation it well but i mean let me stop you real quick absence you brought up congress is going to ask you about that later they will have their chance to have their say as well do you think we could see a scenario whereby they might reject this deal. you know it's an interesting. it's an interesting point let me say this washington right now is consumes not only with the election but with a number of states supreme courts which will probably be resolved very soon cozy relief's economic really this is an event like this would have been under normal circumstances the front page of the new york times and every other paper in the country and it wasn't even in the front 10 pages and you'll see congress take something similar congress has a role and oversight of course no matter who the next congress is there will be an
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oversight role in a funny role but but this is much more back channel and much more off the cuff right now and i knew the next guest will be a process for working with sudan and indeed of any other country on a movie needle so that designation is is reflected in reality and mitchell you talked extensively about the momentum that this creates as president trump says he expects saudi arabia will be agreeing to closer ties with israel possibly in the coming months do you believe the we are going to see saudi arabia normalize has 0 and do you think that this will be in the in the near term of the long term. oh i think that from what i've seen saudi arabia is interested and they're probably hedging their bets a little bit more to wait to see who's going to be the next president and give the credit whenever that person is coming into the white house so that they can fully maximize but it does look like there has been
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a shift in the sands of the middle east and that you know countries are now that were involved with israel in the past there openly you know having relations with israel and openly recognizing the right of israel to exist so there has been a really serious and monumental change within the past few months which we've seen was people are feeling in israel people feel very differently in israel about the region about these countries about the fact that they've come to the table and you know to a certain extent if we go back to the house an issue it's kind of given you know a stamp of approval if you will to the prime minister and how he's dealt with it over the past decade which is either to ignore it or to you know you know challenge the palestinians and not give in on any issues and ignore the peace process let's say with the palestinians there's at the end of the day the biggest you know whole back was that you know we couldn't go forward with any other countries until the palestinian issue was solved and always said that that's not the case and that's
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actually holding back the rest of the middle east that people want to have relations so he's been right on that one and you know there has been a significant change and israelis are feeling that change is really they're also feeling you know warmer feeling storms down in that he's produced this these types of agreements which are very very important and critical for israel it was israel in a different light and it you know it's revived some he cannot make issues with the ability to really openly work and openly trade with these countries and i think we're going to see very very big things with the israeli arab community working with with you know behind the united arab emirates and we're going to see it with regular israeli companies as well when you do you believe u.s. sanctions against sudan will start being removed swiftly or is this something that's going to take time. i believe in explaining to do time. i don't know the
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extent. to which the sudanese people i mean i'm talking about the politics the talking about 'd the i question the extent to which even if it was that he was too small of course there are some procedural difficulties here at the it but even then it will push the argument. is that since it's been removed i question the extent. to how many. commie. or the sudan needs. so nasty quantity to meet some. sparks of. mrs maynard's before the party and action packed for. for some some soul many then if you can buy. a bet. on it i want to see.
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not much different it was done by disobedient government written by the members the . sewing cults that. if your emperor was none. reported. the aquatic. common. middle man his interview. with. one who served 56. x. a grand was the gist of the. words. with one story. so. i didn't have any experience with it i'm starting to up can i ask you just very quickly what happens if sudan's legislature or its parliament when it's formed rejects this deal. before even before and even the ghost of the nudist if get him embodied that the majority of the ministerial
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cabinet is. about priests not cities and some commune is all in the course of 65 to 6 the gates being when the once the behind the last no promises you know mission will. not be said of it so i think they either have to. submit their visit mission to the prime minister or if they go to the legislative branch it's going to go very much against it but but but that's not going to affect the outcome not see the normalization and this is what i have been trying to see in the last few minutes is that the normalization has already did complete is that this is this is an author of the system and like all other peace it it means that
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we're done with is not a game top down the top down approach so it's not going to be sustainable because until now we don't see any popular we don't see any any other track and went in and got what it i'm sorry i'm sorry to interrupt but we're starting to run out of time and i want to ask mitchell the same question to get his viewpoint to mitchell from your vantage point what what happens if this deal to me gets rejected. it's highly i mean from what i'm seeing it's highly unlikely that it's going to be rejected because the sudanese economy depends on it i mean you know i think i think that's maybe one of the things that helped convince them that now would be a time to normalize relations with israel i mean one of the things that the trump administration has been claiming all along and they seem to be make him point is that there's an economic component to peace in the middle east and peace between israelis and palestinians and it all boils down to people being able to make
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a living commies going well and going strong so you know if the sudanese economy is going to start to turn around and they have access to foreign currency in access to trade and access to some of those you know stable items that they're missing from their supermarket shelves and from their industry i don't see that that's wise in any way to reject i mean the ideology is already it has been let out of the bag in that they've normalize relations with israel and they're accepting israel and they're strengthening their relations with the united states so i mean i think we have to wait and see i'm not an expert and sunni's allah ticks but you know it's does seem that it's in their best interest magically and i'm acutely to have a very strong and warm relation normal relation with israel at this point ari we have less than a minute so please be conscious of that if biden wins the election does he build on
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this or do you believe that u.s. you know start retreating from this deal. bill example let me say this because i think we need to be cleared out of what we're talking about in 1979 in the camp david accords israel signed a decree an arab world's most populous state the arabs and israelis never fought a major war again that letter this is not that u.a.e. is a very important country but trade in sudan with all due respect are much more marginal countries and even ties were already there this is something coming to the surface very symbolically important but until or unless the palestinians are involved or major arab states like saudi arabia become involved in the open which are much more constrained because of academia and because of the saudi peace initiative this does not rise to that kind of agreement there is a lot more work to be done for any american administration and freddie israeli and ministrations this is not yet euphoria that the youth for is that it is or i'll go
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i'm sympathetic to it this is not what you know trump and and others are selling yes it's it's potential but but it's not fair all right we've run out of time so we're just going to have to leave it there thanks so much to all of our guests ari ratner mitchell barrack and lead. and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website at 0 dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story for me mamma jim jones and the entire team here in doha by frank.
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i robot this in in doha the top stories on voters in chile celebrating because it looks like a referendum to change the constitution will pass the government agreed to the vote following protests that began a year ago over widespread inequalities in america added to the sea and even has more from santiago. there seems to be very little question about whether it's i mean rather it's not about whether but by how much the approval vulgar will have one we have we have seen some of the exit polls and if this were a boxing match you could say to be a broom versus the reject has won.

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