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another arab israeli normalization deal announced but the agreement linking sudan and israel raises more than a few questions is it as substantial as israel's deals with the u.a.e. and beheading and cancer dance government actually follow through this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm. sudan has become the 3rd arab country this year to say it's normalizing ties with israel president donald trump made the announcement during a phone call with the israeli and sudanese leaders on friday the move has symbolic
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significance because it was in the sudanese capital of them in 1967 that arab countries committed themselves to what became known as the 3 knows no peace no negotiations and no recognition of israel and west jerusalem israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu celebrated changing those 3 no's to yes. you know you. kind of tune says yes yes to peace with israel yes to recognition of israel and yes to normalization with israel this is a new era the era of true peace this is a peace that is expanding to include other arab countries 3 of which have made peace with us in recent weeks sudanese an israeli delegations will meet soon to discuss cooperation in many fields including agriculture trade and other important areas for us citizens the sudanese sky is now open to israel. but unlike earlier deals with the united arab emirates and beheading this agreement raises as many questions as it answers why sudan can this fragile transitional government really approve such
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a sweeping policy change and who will ratify it since sudan currently has no parliament there's a lot going on here and we're going to explore the benefits and risks for all 3 countries involved we'll bring in our guests in a moment but 1st how tickell hand in washington and what morgan and how to tell us how the accord looks from those capitals for us president donald trump the deal between sudan and israel is important because the election it's not necessarily that he wanted a foreign policy achievement that he could tout to the crowds foreign policy is barely a factor in this year's presidential election and it's not necessarily to try and get the support of jewish americans because polls show the vast majority of jewish american voters tend to vote democratic the president made clear in his own language what he's doing is trying to shore up his support with christian evangelicals because they say this support for israel is a major factor for them and the president's made clear in every move that is seen as pro israel he's doing it to try and shore up his base because he wants to be reelected. and people morgan and hudson the capital of sudan which became the
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latest arab country to normalize dies with israel now sudan's decision was largely driven by the state of the economy which has seen inflation risen to never before 220 percent leading to an increase in market prices sudan has also been on the u.s. list of state sponsors of terrorism for 27 years and that has cut it off from foreign trade resulting in short take of hard currency which made it difficult to import most of the basic commodities such as we eat and fuel resulting in long queues at petrol stations and bakeries as people wait for bread and petrol to be able to continue with their lives now sudan says that the issue of being delisted from the u.s. list of state sponsors of terrorism and normalizing ties with israel are not related but they did go hand in hand because the same day that the u.s. president donald trump announced that sudan would be lifted of the s.s.t. he also announced that the 3 countries have agreed sudan us and israel have agreed to normalize relations so it seems that they came hand in hand and sudan says it's
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looking for its interest but let's equally and economically. i all right let's bring in our guests in miami ari ratner a former special assistant for the u.s. state department in west jerusalem mitchell beric c.e.o. of the israeli research firm ki moon and here in doha will leave bebo founder and president of the sudan policy forum a warm welcome to you all lead let me please start with you officials in sudan have said that the agreement for normalizing ties with israel will depend upon it being ratified by the country's legislative council this is a legislative council that has not yet been formed so is it fair to say that this normalization agreement is far from a done deal. it's it's a it's a done deal in my home p.c. so far as the season it has bee been buying the hit of the supreme council and the
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party. and they haven't made it even 4 to 5 this. night vying discussing aids was the prime ministerial office all of the sobering comments that the sureties was lobbyists that had to. how are they going to mobilize this issue. why now i think they ought to keep an eye on the fact that at this is specific point in history that is it isn't anybody could stop believing the country is going through a lot of common problems a good white so. me i right i think then. having me in the airport who is some sort of. want to discussion with the public eye the prettiest time
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netanyahu. public knew about it before. any purchase of. renown. he said never it will never mind i think it's ok with me in the line of. sight and this is what's. recent is this the steps he could have been sustaining such it is the mitchell the u.a.e. and by her in never fought israel it's a different story of course when it comes to sudan so how significant is this agreement for israel well the 1st thing i would say it's different right now because we're not going to be exchanging embassies this point so we've seen real normalization with the train and and and united arab emirates we've seen as fact an embrace of israelis by the. knighted their memories and it's really on the path already you know their companies are going up i think relations so a syllable bit different here what is happening here though israel answered honest
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very significant i would call it a triple win it's a win win win for israel the 1st when is that they're off the terror list meaning they're not supporting terror they're not shipping arms via you around from iran to hamas they're not involved anymore that terror trade they're not a base anymore for terror operations that's the 1st when the 2nd when is obviously the normalization with israel the fact that they are recognizing israel normalizing relations and the 3rd when of course is what it does to the palestinians meaning it's going to put the palestinians more in a corner each of these countries and normalize relationships with israel it's going to be forcing the palestinians to also at some point come to terms with normalizing with israel so it puts some pressure on them which is good it stops the terror the support of terror and it also opens up another country to normalize relations with
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israel is an excellent excellent achievement ari when you look at the video of this announcement of the normalization deal being made at the white house it's really unclear if there are any sudanese or israeli officials that were actually present there with president trump and his staff i mean is this how diplomacy is done. not typically add but trump in ministration isn't that great to put ministration not on the number levels had a guess in your head a famous line about about israeli politics actually said israeli foreign policy didn't exist all you had was domestic into israeli politics by which he meant the fractious nature of israeli politics drove the foreign policies which is that how people think of it and and you could say something very similar about american policy that foreign policy right now. of course peace with israel and any of its
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neighbors or even. 2 neighbors as he calls to have is is a longstanding american goal but the way this is being done here is much much more by the pending election and you even sob on the phone call president trump asking prime minister netanyahu whether his word sleepy joe could do a deal like this that it's it's i mr not you know you are wisely avoided so you know this isn't normal. but but it might be beneficial and it's certainly something that. whether the trump mistress and is reelected or whether joe biden is reelected will will be a teacher american policy michel i saw you react when ari was making a specific point there about the phone call between president trump a prime minister netanyahu because there was that moment where president trump used his insult for joe biden and asked prime minister netanyahu if he thought sleepy joe as president trump calls joe biden could have made this deal and then it was an
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interesting response from the prime minister from netanyahu who essentially said hey we're thankful for any american who can help bring peace a lot of analysts thought that was an example of netanyahu really hedging his bets because we're close to an election and he might have to work with joe biden going forward what do you say. well that i mean it's good that now a week before the election he's hedging his bets because he spent the last 10 years of administration fighting with the obama biden administration in a kind of a friendly manner and then working hand in hand very closely with the trumpet ministration to the point of not just the trump administration by the israeli israeli foreign policy is very much favoring our fear feels more comfortable with republicans in the united states and to a certain extent has been you know not paying enough attention to the democratic side of the political map in the united states and that is
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a problem in general for any country and certainly it has not been a wise policy on the hat behalf and that's and you know how to do so it is good to see that they you know at least in lip service. he has hedging his bets but you know there does seem to be a lot of political jockeying and support in and you know a lot of wake wink and nod stores the republicans and towards trump so i think it was totally inappropriate of president trump to put in you know a political you know love for himself in a foreign policy all like that. but you know you certainly can't take away the achievements that he has produced in the past few months with united arab emirates with the crane with guitar there seems to be more to come whether he's around this president or not we'll have to see but he certainly has had after after many many years of giving israel many many things on the israeli wish list he's certainly
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come through even in the last few months but some very very big achievement so that he can take away from it but to make it political and to try to make it partisan is not helpful to israel in the long run i'm glad that it's you know stepped up and didn't fall into that trap when he did we've already heard reaction from some sudanese political parties rejecting this normalization agreement we. we've seen demonstrations in sudan against the deal as well how unpopular is it in sudan is is very unpopular apart from the consumption was an unprofessional manager who switch president from the numbers this is. the normalization with this site it was the zionists it was made as a condition for. being the listed from political party and here is this but when you look and 2 whoever is. talking to he was talking to out there that that
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not of the top 100 is that you know his side of the figure he might others are accused of having committed or to keep on genocide. if you look at their human system and not the hardware to see that this was nearing of the machinery or of the software and allowed exit even so there is a big city even to. to want to launch terrorist attacks and it is i think a new mission sort of a crime to. prosecute you know some weapons to hamas through using this is a nice if somebody i think. which you know ricin was cause you seem to miss so i think it's pretty enormous for president. introduced explain some of. the
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u.s. distance of them because. this new. rules you would indicate that he be. against it so if he is the beauty of this the i have real i couldn't even begin to. shoot the. hardware and so. this. was done in such a way that. i don't think. you know how do you. ari has the trumpet ministration actually removed sudan from the list of state sponsors of terrorism and if not what are the commitments sudan needs to meet now in order to have that done. you know it's it's it's it's a process that believes i am not an expert on the terrace i mean to say that big ministration designates and they should have it simple it's not something that has
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to go to congress for instance and they should have a simple. designation. air designation it well but i mean let me stop you real quick since you brought up congress is going to ask you about that later they will have their chance to have their say as well do you think we could see a scenario whereby they might reject this deal. you know it's an interesting. it's an interesting point but let me say this washington right now is consumes not only with the election but with a number of states supreme courts which will probably be resolved very soon cozy relief's economic really this an event like this would have been under normal circumstances the front page of the new york times and every other paper in the country and it wasn't even in the front 10 pages and you'll see congress take something similar congress has a role in oversight of course and no matter who the next congress is there will be
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an oversight role in a funny role but but this is much more back channel and much more off the cuff right now and i knew the next guest will be a process for working with sudan and indeed of any other country on a movie neal so that designation is is reflected in reality michel you talked extensively about the momentum that this creates as president trump says he expects saudi arabia will be agreeing to closer ties with israel possibly in the coming months do you believe the we are going to see saudi arabia normalize has 0 and do you think that this will be in the in the near term of the long term. oh i think that from what i've seen saudi arabia is interested and they're probably hedging their bets a little bit more so wait to see who's going to be the next president and give the credit whenever that person is coming into the white house so that they can fully maximize but it does look like there has been
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a shift in the sands of the middle east and that you know countries are now that were involved with israel in the past there openly you know having relations with israel and openly recognizing the right of israel to really exist so there has been a really serious and monumental change within the past few months which we've seen was people are feeling in israel people feel very differently in israel about the region about these countries about that the fact that they've come to the table and you know to a certain extent if we go back to the house an issue it's kind of given you know a stamp of approval if you will to the prime minister and how he's dealt with it over the past decade which is either to ignore it or to you know you know challenge the palestinians and not give in on any issues and ignore the peace process let's say with the palestinians there's at the end of the day the biggest you know whole back was that you know we couldn't go forward with any other countries until the palestinian issue was solved and always said that that's not the case and that's
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actually holding back the rest of the middle east that people want to have relations so he's been right on that one and you know there has been a significant change and israelis are feeling that change is really they're also feeling you know warmer feeling storms down in that he's produced this these types of agreements which are very very important and critical for israel it was israel in a different light and it you know it's revived some he cannot make issues with the ability to really openly work and openly trade with these countries and i think we're going to see very very big things with the israeli arab community working with with you know behind the united arab emirates and we're going to see it with regular israeli companies as well when you do you believe u.s. sanctions against sudan will start being removed swiftly or is this something that's going to take time. i believe explaining to do time. i don't know the
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extent. to which the sudanese people i mean i'm talking about the public the talking point that i question the extent to which even if it was that he was too small of course there are some procedural difficulty seeing a bit but even then it will push the argument. is that since it's been removed i question the extent to which it split into how many. commie. or the sudan needs. so that's the economy needs some. sparks of. mrs maynard's before the party. and action packed for. ringback for some some soul then if you can buy. a bet and i want to see.
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not much too for what's done by disobedient government by the members the. sewing cults that. if your emperor was known to exist mean to the report of. the aquatic. common. movement to his in. the mid. 156. grand was the. wave months or. so. didn't have any experience with it i'm starting to up can i ask you just very quickly what happens if sudan's legislature or its parliament when it's formed rejects this deal. before even before even the ghost of the new disability get him in but it got. the majority of the ministerial company and.
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back priest niceties and some commune is all in the course of 65 to 6 the gates then when the once the behind the last no dramas the. mission will. not be said of it so i think they either have to. submit their visit mission to the prime minister or if they go to the legislative branch it's going to go very much against it but but but that's not going to affect the outcome not see the normalization and this is what i have been trying to see in the last few minutes is that the normalization has already did complete is that this is this is an author do you insist that like all other peace it it means that we're done with is game
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top down the top down approach so it's not going to be sustainable because until now we don't see any popular we don't see any any other track and when it got what it i'm sorry i'm sorry to interrupt but we're starting to run out of time and i want to ask mitchell the same question to get his viewpoint to mitchell from your vantage point what what happens if this deal to me gets rejected. it's highly i mean from what i'm seeing is highly unlikely that it's going to be rejected because the sudanese economy depends on it i mean you know i think i think that's maybe one of the things that helped convince them that now would be a time to normalize relations with israel i mean one of the things that the trump administration has been claiming all along and they seem to be make him point is that there's an economic component to peace in the middle east and peace between israelis and palestinians and it all boils down to people being able to make
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a living commies going well and going strong so you know if the sudanese economy is going to start to turn around and they have access to foreign currency in access to trade and access to some of those you know staple items that they're missing from their supermarket shelves and from their industry i don't see that that's wise in any way to reject i mean the ideology is already it has been let out of the bag in that they've normalize relations with israel and they're accepting israel and they're strengthening their relations with the united states so i mean i think we have to wait and see i'm not an expert in sudanese alla ticks but you know it's does seem that it's in their best interest to magically and i make lee to have a very strong and warm relation normal relation with israel at this point ari we have less than a minute so please be conscious of that if biden wins the election does he build on
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this or do you believe that u.s. you know start retreating from this deal. bill example let me say this because i think we need to be cleared out what we're talking about in 1979 in the camp david accords israel signed a decree an arab world's most populous state the arabs and israelis never fought a major war that letter this is not that u.a.e. is a very important country but trade in sudan with all due respect are much more marginal countries and even ties were already there this is something coming to the surface very symbolically important but until or unless the palestinians are involved or major arab states like saudi arabia become involved in the open which are much more constrained because of academia and because of the saudi peace initiative this does not rise to that kind of agreement there is a lot more work to be done for any american administration and freddie israeli and ministrations this is not yet euphoria that the u.s.
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for is not yet is there or i'll go i'm sympathetic to it this is not what you know trump and and others are selling yes it's it's potential but but it's not fair all right we've run out of time so we're just going to have to leave it there thanks so much to all of our guests ari ratner mitchell barrak and lead. and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website at 0 dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story for me mohammed jim jones and the entire team here in doha by frank.
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