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2 ships would be easy for a country whose revenues are tied to fluctuating commodity prices in addition people here will want to see wherever wins this election tackled the difficult task of reuniting a deeply divided country greece is either head of guinea's opposition is planning more protests solve to security forces raided the homes of his supporters salutes ellen jello declared victory after the election 3 weeks ago the electoral commission says 82 year old president alpha condé secured his 3rd term but his speech results have sponsors fighting protests and a number of civilian and police killing. this is al jazeera these are the top stories a search is under way for survivors in the coastal turkish city of isn't it after powerful magnitude 7 earthquake the tremor beneath their gnc left more than 20
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people dead and 700 others injured at least 20 buildings were destroyed. i have a shop on the back side i was talking with someone i felt that while we were outside the ground started to shake while i was watching our building i saw this one collapse. i thought that the ground to chatted you cannot think or you try to do is get out everywhere was collapsing luckily our building was intact. a rescue operation is underway in el salvador where a landslide has left at least 7 people dead and more than 30 missing some locals are helping crews using their bare hands to dig through the mud and a landslide happened in a village just north of the capital. the new york times is reporting that the u.s. government is deporting migrant children to mexico without an adult and without any family to take them and all than $200.00 children originally from central american countries all set to have been expelled from the u.s.
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over the past 8 months armenia and azerbaijan have agreed not to deliberately target civilian populations in the to speech and they're going to come back region just days after a cease fire collapsed foreign ministers from amini and azerbaijan have been holding talks with international mediators in geneva by sides also agreed to swap bodies and provide a list of prisoners of war within a week. president trump and his election rival joe biden have been holding back to back rallies in the midwest both candidates stopped off in minnesota on friday to make a final push for new supports the election has already seen a historic early vote to turn out texas see more ballots cost this year than it or of 2016 so you have lights.
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back to lock down more countries impose news shutdowns as grown up virus cases and their round warnings things may get even worse but these restrictions the answer to this one demick this is inside story. hello welcome to the program. europe is once again of the epicenter of the global pandemic that so far seen more than 44000000 infections and over a 1000000 deaths worldwide the region is struggling with rising numbers of
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infections while deaths from cove in 1000 rose by 32 percent last week while france has imposed a month long lockdown that went into effect at midnight on thursday for the 2nd time this year people are living and toughest ructions present in manuel macron says the measures will help reduce infections from about 58000 today to 5000 according to the john hopkins university friends has reported more than a 1000000 cases and over 36000 deaths across the border people in germany are also preparing for a month of distractions from monday chancellor angela merkel was once praised for her handling of the pandemic but she is now warning that health authorities have lost control skyrocketing a new infections despite a contact tracing program and amend data required on teens authorities say they are
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unable to identify where 75 percent of new infections are coming from. the 2nd wave in europe is rapidly outpacing the original outbreak earlier this year this time the region looks better prepared vanderlei in the e.u. chief has unveiled plans to transfer covert patients from hard hit member states to neighbors with spare hospital beds the commission announced tonight that we are making 220000000 euros a vailable to finance a save cross border transfer of patients where it is need it and for that their good use of the money requires good information in exchange britain has once again decided to go its own way in how it handles the pandemic prime minister boys johnson is resisting following germany and france in ordering a 2nd lockdown it's
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a decision that's led to criticism of the government especially since the u.k. has the largest number of corn about its debts in europe more than 46000 in its imposed local lockdowns despite any new studies showing cases in england are doubling every 9 days in the us we're just heard nearly 90 a 1000 you know infections on thursday is the highest number of daily cases since the start of the pandemic the virus is spreading rapidly in the western half of the country affecting every swing state crucial to the next week's presidential election at least 228000 deaths have been linked to the virus president donald trump who was hospitalized earlier this month with coburn 1000 continues to play down the threat. in asia india is struggling with the largest number of infections more than 8000000 cases and over 121000 deaths have been recorded
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health authorities believe the act or numbers may be higher some experts estimate at least 130000000 people may be impacted. joining me now our guest in milan dr. chikane president elect of the european society of intensive care medicine and head of intensive care medicine at humanity research hospital in boston matthew fox infectious disease it biddy meola just and professor of geology at boston university school of public health and in regard to as a d.n.a. brahimi director of the medical biotechnology laboratory med biotech and director of the bio on of our research center a warm welcome to your mauricio german chancellor angela merkel said that this winter will be hard for a long difficult months are you bracing for
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a surge in the cases of the people that will be a better to the intensive care units in the coming weeks. and yes i think we are and actually we've been bracing for a while because many of the 1st wave there was a curing the fairest months of the day year before dishonor and imagery to work on trees in europe experience there and accumulate quite somber work around virus cases we were actually never able to or every single transmission of cases in the community so indeed the beige and they arrived leaving the summary for not even if not we've the numbers are going to say now. unfortunately now the number that we're seeing in your very high tick and india the arche that are big asian of the virus as reached explanation values in many countries or i would say that we already see this say or do not in the recent weeks that some of the countries the live
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experience and the 1st wave that we've seen any shortly at all the patients coming to the office the door wave and mind and severe symptoms and then a few days or weeks later we started to see their eyes or skin intensive care cases and it would say that our colleagues in intensive care are us europe in many countries are already seeing the serger and where at least you know cuban serape said and sometimes in the range of 50 percent like in belgium or in france now so i would say the surgery is already here all right and we have to try to control the spread all the virus as much as possible in the community that to avoid it and any and b. your difficulty not one of their systems matthew matthew at the same pattern in the u.s. to new highs a daily basis plus more than $1000000.00 infections is the start of the pun demick but still you get the impression of that the government is not related and moving forward 2 words more restrictions like the ones we are seeing in europe. this
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exactly right the patterns that we're seeing here in the united states are very similar to the patterns that you've seen in europe except with the difference that they're quite regional so in parts of the country we've already seen a spike already intensify where is in the northeast where i am it's just starting to begin but absolutely we are we are not taking the actions that we need to be taking in order to stave this increase in the spread and so we're going to you're seeing some states starting to go to more intensive mitigation measures measures but we're not going towards the full lock downs that we saw in april so we really do need to be starting to take more concrete action to to stave off a really terrible winter into things happening simultaneously in morocco infection is increasing and the mortality rate is also spiking we expect in the government to reinstate the same measures taken about a few months ago. well i don't know the government would be taken this decision but
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i think the station of morocco is in between your open the u.s. in baracoa see what's happening in morocco and compare it to what's happening in europe that's a thinking to us the decision to do something it's political decision but in morocco we are thinking what to do and i think that's that may think that's what everybody is thinking about but we are almost like 2 weeks behind europe so i think if there is something to be taken as a decision it has to be right now i think is the right time to deal with because we are surging the number of infected people are certain and the 2nd thing is basically we are having more and more death and we see the projection of for washington university to see that in morocco if we don't do anything by december 1st i think that's going to be exponentially increasing and we might have a big problem a lot of our resources the start of the pandemic the debate has been or the divide
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itself should we listen more to experts or more to politicians now ultimately is politicians will have the upper hand and they are now bracing for tougher restrictions do you think that the lock down is the efficient way given what is happening at all in terms of inductions. an important think of during the fairest way that these can europe kountry is that there were foster in there 'd reacting to the advice of scientists think the nations where those countries that minimizes their eyes of sick patients and he surely and they were also able to receive mcdavid these areas i think this community has and scientists and i can speak for 'd many colleagues 'd that across europe we've been demanding it's true there are measures when we saw the cases started to increase and that the bias of the degrees a bit more explanation lee does virus as a unique characteristic in the same stent that it's not a problem although we want to see more sick patient the days when
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a number of patients start to more to buy and to give an example of the r.t. do we know that in 57 days we would see them and the whole of patients and their bikes and these they don't do that when a game does numbers can really put any earth care system on their knees importantly we're not curing just patients we want to care for or care patients in our off beat or as in our insecure systems if we were rolled up by whatever care system and just with patients we started to compete for resources in some way if it is to care for other patients or to be grows income they have to to care for coheed so our advice to government is to be fast and to think strange and measures i don't think there is a fixed recipe and clearly we cannot just leave bare mckay with people down a very active duty but certainly strange and measures career fuels lockdowns that probably become necessary at some point in different forms when the spread of the
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virus in the community is out of control and we see that this plane actually it could bring that all of brought us to our roles but there was also remember that by the nature of the thing could be should be or then when you start to get symptoms everything that you do today is about it kind of measure will have an impact on our earth care system but 'd at least 2 weeks ago when the situation. he's already out of control we can see this is significant now they're ok something to our eyes he was going you know me taking not nothing of the optics are quite different in the united states of america because we are in the midst of an unprecedented bitter presidential race dominated by a polarizing issue and you have a president who continues to discredit the expert. the medical community and we lucky to see the handling of the 900. 11 but the 2nd well i think we don't yet know that obviously partly that's going to depend on who wins the election but i think if you know you know clearly what it is that we need
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to do we have the tools available to us to both mitigate the spread of reduce the amount of mortality without needing to necessarily go to a full lockdown i'm hopeful that we don't end up in that kind of situation but that is social distancing wearing masks keeping away from each other as much as possible and if we can move towards that as a country regardless of who is in charge we have an opportunity to really bring down the community spread and then hopefully not overwhelm the hospitals and continue to see progress but obviously that takes takes will of the people and that takes leadership and i am hopeful that we continue to move in that direction but as you point out we're not there yet as dean in morocco is a country that does not have the same resources the u.s. or europe and have do you have any concerns that if the pattern continues we're likely to see intensive care units overwhelmed in the coming weeks in morocco.
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wow i'm talking to my colleagues from europe and the usa i think for africa it was a really big big big thing to see this pandemic because we don't have in year our models or benchmarking to do because usually in africa we look up to the north to see what's happening but i think what's happening has what's happening in the europe is not something that is very helpful and they feel really set for what's happening in the u.s. and that would say that's matthew because i think the last life he knew were is a lost life and i think is not a question of numbers but it's question of families of work jobs and lots of think that he's done and i think when you compare what's happening in africa with as you said her sources that are really limited and that we see we try to compare to what's happening in europe and what's happening to us it's very difficult transparent with the 1300000000 zene africa we have 303-5000. death and you see what's happening to us with
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22025000 up and they think we really don't assimilate what's happening in toronto where that's i think coming back to morocco i agree with you completely i think we are reaching the capacity of our i.c.u. is and i think will be we have to make tough decision i think without a lacking and that really strange and decision and very courageous decision and i think by that 1st of december it will be very difficult to catch up to the band factions and to raise our planet in moral murray certainly has been traumatized a few months ago by the increasing cases and the infection and we've seen of those bushes from intensive care units in in parts of italy the protocol so far has been steroids along with other medication and ventilation for cases for severe cases is this likely to continue to be the same protocol for the upcoming. months with
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all the learning that we have managed to accumulate about and understanding about the disease itself it's a very good question and i think it goes back again to the fact that prevention is the best strategy and that's why we need the help of individual citizens very to speak to 'd mosques saying hand-washing and this then saying that because actually one important message that we have to buy us into the community is that and then when we don't have a specific therapy for kobe 94 patients that can be managed it almost we can give symptomatic therapies like a spirit but a symptom or and supportive therapies is very important that those patients these to receive i think when attrition migration them about i think christ if they admitted to the asked or we have now any evidence that spirits for those patients that require oxygen can you when you will do need that is ease and that are associated with a decreasing want out of the so that it was while doing it because that by spending mating research over the last few months we've realised when to do spirits and
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disease is really a great advancement however we don't have are there specific therapies for this virus and 'd indeed what's left is a supportive therapy again something that we can do in the article and intensive care unit if they should benefit from mechanical ventilation that's what we do to basically give time to the body to heave to rest and when we take care of their organs with our techniques we protect your gas and we hope that they should get a covert matthew the trumpet mr mason has been saying that a vaccine will be will be available before the end of this year now if when you listen to experts over the last 48 hours particularly. and tony. is basically saying that we have maybe we'll have to wait longer what does it mean for the americans than. so it means that things are going to continue roughly as they are over the next few months we're heading into winter here that means more people
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inside that means schools have reopened and it's going to be even more transmission and until we have both a safe and effective vaccine we're not going to be able to completely control the spread so there are all those measures for prevention that we know already we're going to we're going to need to double down on those but i am still hopeful that we do get a vaccine that is reasonably effective by early next year and then we can start to scale that up and rule that out once that happens then we can start to see a real dent in the amount of transmission that are that is occurring that's not going to bring things completely back to normal right away but over time things should start to get better. as the well he's waiting to see which company is going to be able to manufacture the fast that scene we're talking about that if you trust that companies basically in europe and the united states of america so give me an idea about the debate that you're having with your colleague here of the act of
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a medical biotechnology laboratory what are you thinking about today tomorrow how to get a vaccine what would be the potential for a country like morocco countries neighboring you'll in north africa. well i think the vaccine would be a solution to think as matthew said i think it's going to take a little bit of time because it's here and there want don't want to give force hopes it's not going to be for tomorrow because even if we get different the vaccine and gets accepted there prove that by this sumber we have to go through what we call a mass vaccination and that's would take a long time to grow to be done so we are not looking at solution that would be there but i think the moroccan approach was clearly a good one in this sense because morocco doesn't have the capabilities right now to develop its own vaccine so we spark there with a couple of companies from asia from china particularly and it's acquiring devices seem to astra zeneca for example that something it's good to to have but i agree
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with with boscobel colleagues actually the best way to fight the corner of our see right now is the mitigation and the bar or gesture that you have to have i think that's the big problem that we have in morocco we have less than 60 percent we have almost like 50 percent of the population and they are into wearing a face mask and we know that without having a face mask you cannot have any protection ok though distancing yourself from other people and i think it's tough to do within the moroccan cultural mentality and the western kind of countries because we have a less than 6 minutes and would like to or like to move on to tackle different issues. do you think the virus has become less very real and compared to 789 months ago because when you look at europe you can see the mortality rate is becoming less and less i don't think we have any area that. the
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areas that we have is that we know more or have 5 the virus in the you know in the last their minds of the summer there was a lot of preparation long grade your. that we don't decide of intensive government is important because we want to close it with your young commission and one important message that we've tried to boss was the fact that we need to find if oscillate increase competencies to care for patients during this era you know nice you're going to late or even if you buy it it's not really nice your bad without competent people there that that's why recently with nonstick a project that program in europe to train its care workers not talking about any sick care which is of course in ending space and we hope we've had best during this era but i don't think the bios has become ok byron muthee as we move forward with we're starting to learn more about code 19 or about its syndrome which needs no
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more patients with crippling issues like lasting response to problems due to logical problem causing a complete patients. could this be the moment where we have to think the way we deal with medicine itself the way we need to put more investments aside for the near future because we seem to be entering a new territory here why do you think that's right but i also think that this gets back to the issue that there's a real goal here isn't to only get good at treating this disease our goal is to prevent people from getting it in the 1st place it's it's actually true we don't have great evidence yet to suggest whether the virus is getting weaker or we're just getting better at treating it but we do know is that the mortality is dropping but that doesn't mean that people aren't still suffering severe consequences and so the goal is to prevent people from getting infected in the 1st place and and that's a really difficult thing to convince people when they see their mortality dropping so i agree with you we need to we need certainly need to invest in our ability to
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care for people who are sick dealing with the severe consequences but our primary goal still needs to be preventing infection in the 1st place as the in the majority of people in morocco operate in the informal sector if you push ahead with a lock down him is that many people will suffer economically and financially in the near future then it boils down to people like you to step in in the and try to raise awareness about how to move forward you know particularly in countries like in north africa if this is going to stay with us longer how do you see how do you see the future in places like iraq or north africa well i think it's going to stay longer with us i think that's a definitely it's kind of the far east when you have anger who are not just in iraq because this time we are in same boat i think if the virus is some what is going to be everywhere that i think which was a very good equity is the virus the diversity of the virus is not treating creasing
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and i think that through our works and colleagues we we showed actually that the virus that came off genomic is safer from a rogue. and for the luck don't it think the key bridge between the economy and will be an issue that is really important i think all of the people really the scientists i mean all of the the decision maker people are doing have to communicate or care it's not there to people to let them now what to do and they think it's clear that we can surmount the problem in less than 30 seconds for us intensive care unit. ventilator and the crowds and the desperate attempt to save people is this something that we have also to rethink with covert 19 intensive care bed intensive care people there are doctors nurses we have to find flexible ways to increase these competencies so that we can start more bad periods of surgeries but really we are all together it is we need citizens to have burst as we're being save
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for the last minute they get out of the transmission of the virus to the community and then we can take care of many years you patients not just call it. after everyone german thank you very much indeed dr morris you took on a matthew a farce i said in your brahimi thank you for your insight and i promise you will continue to visit in this particular subject in the coming days and weeks and thank you for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is a jane side story from me. and the entire team here in doha by phone or. since 2013 wish the world innovation summit to health has gathered healthcare
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