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leaves that will fall on deaf ears in washington he says he has little choice but to prepare for the u.s. and china to test every part. al-jazeera shanghai. this is 0 these are the top stories and the race for the white house is going down to the wire after flipping mcchicken in wisconsin right now has a projected total of $264.00 electoral college votes according to the associated press or trumpets 214 it takes 270 to win the election the u.s. president has repeated unsubstantiated claims that there were major problems with voting in ballot counting georgia is one of several states where voters still being counted and republicans are filing legal challenges to the election. claims of voter irregularities have sparked protests in arizona and other places police
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officers in phoenix could be seen inside accounting center supporters gathered outside. in washington d.c. an official has more on the difficulties that campaign is likely to face when arguing its case in the courts clearly their view is that they're going to go to the courts that's an interesting thing to do there's going to be hard to argue bill because in arizona where they're behind and they're trying to make up the gap on joe biden the campaign is saying we've got to count every vote everybody has to be counted and then you go over to pennsylvania and georgia and they're saying look you've got to stop counting the ballots no ballots some of the ballots we can't include it annoyed argument to me and they're trying to make it into different parts of the country and a judge might well see although a 2nd this doesn't make a great deal of sense so it's a difficult balancing act that they're performing. kosovars president says he will resign immediately to face a war crimes trial at the hague ice in touch he was indicted in june by
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a special tribunal investigates in the $99899.00 conference serbia gulf it led to the deaths of around 13000 people serbia does not recognize course of his 2008 declaration of independence serbia and kosovo have been engaged in negotiations brokered with the european union since 2011 in an attempt to normalize relations. a new nationwide lockdown has come into effect in england is it struggles to curb a 2nd wave of coronavirus prime minister boris johnson says it will be lifted automatically in the next 4 weeks last night large crowds were seen gathered in london with very little social distancing scotland wales and northern ireland they all have restrictions in place right up to date without lines here and undeserved got more news coming up right after inside story.
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the u.s. presidential race comes down to the wire donald trump and joe biden wait to see if they'll head the world's leading superpower but global trust in the u.s. is declining so can america's reputation be repaired this isn't story. hello welcome to the program on iran come on americans and much of the world are waiting nervously to see whether don't trump old joe biden will be the next u.s. president the final result from tuesday's election depends on the large number of postal votes in swing states the u.s.
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president is often regarded as the most powerful person in the world changes in american foreign policy can benefit or hurt millions of people don't know trump is appended to play mostly in the past 4 years shifting away from global alliances and pulling the u.s. out of agreements on climate change and iran's nuclear program joe biden has promised to restore some of those ties if elected but some world leaders all skeptical. when you keep battle you momo him. what is important for us is that america returns to respecting the iranian nation and we want respect instead of sanctions no matter who is in office if he leaves the unfair and the illegal sanctions and replaces them with respect and our situation will be different. strong bipartisan support for israel is one of the foundations of the american israeli alliance i can say that that alliance has never been stronger i can only
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hope that this policy that brings that i salute iran and brings the fruits of peace . peace grounded in reality to the people of israel to the arab peoples of the region i can only hope that this policy will continue in the coming years. i hope that the new u.s. administration will handle relations with hong kong in a comprehensive way taking into account the interests of the many u.s. businesses in hong kong which employ a lot of people and they will not thoughtlessly a low political considerations to have an unwarranted effect. let's bring in our guests nancy soderberg is a former deputy assistant to the president for national security affairs under bill clinton she joins us from jacksonville florida joining us from west jerusalem is robbie sable professor of international law at hebrew university and former legal advisor to israel's foreign ministry and it is that the deputy head of the middle
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east and north africa program at the european council on foreign relations and she joins us from london welcome to all of you i'd like to begin in jacksonville with you nancy. the foreign policy needle the american foreign policy needle was almost always set to the middle of self interest and status quo and that seemed to work for many years and then along came president donald trump and seemed to rip that up completely bringing the us out of a stablished agreements like nafta and changing agreements that he simply didn't agree with now off to 4 years what's the legacy of american foreign policy as it stands today well simply put we're less safe today than we were 4 years ago and don't chump came in and tried to bend all of our dream and stake down our allies side with dictators and i think what what whoever wins this election needs
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to understand and joe biden certainly does is that the united states needs the rest of the world to solve our global problems we need to work with our allies stand up to dictators and try to make sure that those international agreements are not perfect they're hard of all we all negotiated them but we need to show global leadership whether it's on terrorism cyber security isis. global warming nuclear non-poor flourish and not one of them can be solved on their own and so i think we need to shift it back and i think people are unrealistic if they think we're going to just go back to how the world was on rock about his last in our present trump has fundamentally. distrust among our allies and i think that's going to get very long time to rebuild the be other centers of power that emerge that we're going to have to share the stage with foot then see one of the interesting things about this whole thing is that no president acts in isolation he has advisors he has people
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that have to listen to think tanks that he'll listen to but to do something so radical must have come from within a way of thinking within the us already. well i think president trump tapped into a growing concern in our middle class that we. were in the game is rigged against us and anytime you have that sort of victim mentality of the middle class that is losing its health care hadn't seen it in coming wage they tend to be susceptible to autocrats message and blame the others and donald trump's case it was immigrants or some of them and i think it surprised all of us that he won and he won by tapping into that share of the other and he's doubled down on it in a way that is troubling to people like myself that's been working hard to get joe biden elected and we'll see how this comes out but i think. his trade tariffs are
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discussed the american more iran is closer to a nuclear weapon many was before we pulled out of the deal north koreas. being north korea and. increasing its weapons its missiles to reach the united states our allies no longer trust us we're undermining nato and frankly just playing in to president putin's playbook and i think whoever wins this next election is going to have to understand that we need to reset our rebalance our approach. i would like to send it we should take advantage of the chaos of the last 4 years and recreate some of the momentum after world war 2 to really think about where our institutions are why does the security council look like 1960 s. politics let's as in permanent members there yes their world trade organization could be put on steroids and we need to make sure that the international
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institutions involved with the challenges that we need and i think that. chaos can sometimes enable us to rebuild and as joe biden says build back better and i think that's kind of how we need to do some serious thinking along those lines and i'm not to mistake that we can announce he's not just been chaos there have been senate dances certainly for israel and western islam we haven't really sable present donald trump has been described as an israel is best friend the president that works for israel indeed if you had an election in israel president from probably would win by a landslide all the any dissenting voices to that opinion do you think. i think israel has been very happy with donald trump but we also know that i've been a good friend of israel and under by means of ministration there was no sale of advance weapons reads like the f. 35 united out redwoods which we have seen under trouble so and both ringback
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biden and president in fact come out in favor of the 2 state solution. the public tends to get well and effect involved a 2 state solution so in israel feels that we can work happily with a bi member station as we have worked with attractiveness but robbie has been a favorite child of the us is foreign policy i mean there is there is a lot of kind of mollycoddling going on when it comes to israel they do get according to a lot of what people you know talking about reading that they do get a fair share of u.s. military weapons they do get a fair share of u.s. foreign aid budgets eccentric cetera et cetera i mean at some point that needs to be looked at and biden has actually said if he wins that he needs to look at the israeli u.s. relationship and you seem to be very confident that it won't change. we are confident big fact. the history of the u.s.
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is what relations it's been a bipartisan issue elements united states has always seen a strong is well as important both digit reasons and who reasons are us all policy and this will continue we have no doubt about it obviously in your hands but the issue of that is or should be strong and secure and frankly this is that easy to be cheap base is always weak it's unlikely each piece is really secure there's a good chance that we continue what we were the cheap with egypt jordan with the gulf states and hopefully with but the states as well and the journal in london opinion seems to be split on foreign policy over the last 4 years when it comes to the middle east you have the u.a.e. you have saudi arabia clearly backing donald trump and saying that he's a great leader for the region but then you have somebody like iran who says well
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actually what donald trump is doing actually benefits us because he's isolating the states in the international community and we've slept said for a long time that the u.s. is a hindrance no help when it comes to foreign policy so what do you think is the legacy of the last 4 years. well i think there is a lot of rhetoric that comes out check fraud and it is true that in terms of their political standing want to international say president tom has failed to get out gone or support from his allies particularly in europe for his maximum pressure policy on iran having said that that policy have managed by itself unilaterally who is incredible economic damage to move on over the past years and that the 2 candidates trump and biden often quite different policies on evolve joe biden
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has been quite clearly no new he published in recent months that he wanted to rejoin the new directive on rejoining the alliance with your at and come up with a common core going to solution to both iran's nuclear activities and regional behavior and one of the international community whereas with the top administration we're likely to see the west double down on what has been a rather destructive maximum pressure morrisey as florence i think u.s. interests are concerned as far as exams of european allies are concerned because now we met in a situation where iran is increasing its nuclear activity its regional stance has not really changed its managed to cement its position in a lot of cheap regional theaters and we're nowhere closer to those solutions on diplomatic negotiations that will take you know a matter of weeks where iran to keep each american come to the negotiating table but really we also have a situation where like you say the sanctions haven't really worked you know the
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leadership is still in power in iran america is isolated but it's not just about iran this is about iraq as well now in iraq because what 30000 u.s. troops i think and you have a massive u.s. presence within the. goal shocks as well but it's also a counterbalance by the iranian one is also where does iraq fit into all of this when it comes to the us foreign policy well unfortunately iraq have been caught in the crossfire between iranian and us escalation sickly military escalation that we've seen from general this year air attacks against that u.s. embassy being retaliated by an assassination against their top iranian and iraqi ministry think air and since then we have had these periodic into them of military activity the past relation between u.s. forces and those backfired on the ground in iraq edition leni and the
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u.s. has lost in my view well a lot of political ground in iraq although there has been a new iraqi prime minister in recent months that has vowed to bring in more of the balance of foreign policy the maximum pressure campaign need to be met by president bush and senior team has in my view backfired in times of isolating the last little positioning with iraqi leadership so i don't see that the maximum pressure campaign as we've been benefiting of benefit iraq's ability or frankly u.s. interests in iraq i don't see sort of a guest in western movie say we made a very interesting point he said look this is a bipartisan issue when it comes to israel whether you're democratic or republican israel will always be a friend to the u.s. but that's not really the case when it comes to other countries that used to be the case that the foreign policy of the u.s. didn't really change that much of under democrats or republicans it was fairly
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stable but we are talking when it comes to things like the big countries china russia for example that there are very different foreign policy positions between the republicans and the democrats i mean how are you going to particular if there is a split house if the senate republican leadership is democrat how are you going to you know square those edges. well i think it depends very much on who is. victorious in this very contentious election that we're in the midst of here in the united states and we know how don trump operates if he is elected i think we'll see more of the same are siding with dictators undermining our allies going it alone and the world to me i think if joe biden is successful he's you know we know joe biden has laid out a pretty extensive foreign policy plan and i think he's tracked german understands
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the challenges that we face from rising china not through trade wars but by trying to you know contain it we had a huge trade agreement that jump pulled out of that was designed to trying to contain china will certainly look at china work with our allies in the region to try and begin to contain china hold it accountable and stand up to its expansionist illegal. land grab in the south china sea also trying to contain putin's expansion and influence throughout the former soviet states as well as into into europe and in the middle east if you look at what's happening in the big picture there yes we will stand shoulder to shoulder with israel but we're farther away from a 2 state solution they were 4 years ago you know the worst humanitarian crisis going on in yemen who are signing to continue to sided saudis in that i mean consommé arabia that dismembered a u.s. resident in the turkish consulate because shogi and sensually tramp brags
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about having saved vs over that horrific scandal so i think you'll see a reset in terms of trying to hold saudi arabia accountable working with their allies to make sure that we put nuclear ambitions back in the box in iran and just pause from the chaos. what we're seeing throughout the region this is not going to be solved in one term it's going to take a long time true our allies to trust us again it's going to take a long time for us to rebuild some of the relationships you're out greenman it's joe biden's term build back better i think applies to ringback iran yes he wants to rejoin it that there were some problems with that hopefully we can address some of those it if we are able to rejoin that but i think you'll see a 2 very stark approaches to the world depending on who who wins the election more chaos more americans 1st a rejection of our values at home and abroad or
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a mind who tries to work with our allies and once again lead and our very well attended let's bring in robi sable have robbie i just wanted to talk to you about iran and the israeli perspective that clearly the israelis have long considered iran to be there as the sanctions that the greatest threats and fact against them. they were against a 2015 j c p o a the iran nuclear deal as it's cold if that comes back what precedent israel put on the u.s. to not go through with that deal if biden is elected and he wants to put it back on the table i think is will be also the united states to make a better. all through all the the previous agreement was for 10 years and often that iran would be free to do anything about iran start everyone talks stick to the deal like it didn't break the terms of the deal this is donald trump pulling out you know last week it made it it did it did have some buy it by legends of cases
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but the main issue was it looked temporary agreement and off of the end of it if i will be free to make nuclear weapons a missile we feel that a better deal should be made which would ensure that iran will never have a new it weapon and this can't be done. what we emphasize that now cause it can be done only if you want to feel there's a build but tensional threat again and you can't bargain unless you have a stake in the back on then you don't have to use it there's no stick if they difficult this is the quite we've made with. when they open up administration and we didn't succeed this already and we draw there isn't a stickler the seems to be working the us doesn't have a strategy that seems to be working. well i and i would disagree that the iran nuclear. iran read today about you know weapons actually doesn't it and iran is a member of the nonproliferation treaty which means it is not to go down that path
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and the nuclear deal put in place the most intrusive inspection mechanism under any country with international monitors on the ground and that is why actually the rollback of iraq's commitments these international monitors can actually validate what iran is not like this is why we know exactly where iran is expanding its nuclear activities in response to the pressure campaign for up by president's not response a question i mean we couldn't really get a bigger stake than what we have under the top administration while going to military conflicts that they want we have seen really the sanctions toolbox being it's all said by this administration the political isolation to what's being exerted by this administration so i think if we are dealing with the 2nd something the station israel and other countries in the middle east we have to ask themselves whether they want to double down on its maximum pressure policy that is in my view the next phase of this is going to be
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a military campaign finance company and its relation or do they actually want to push both president clinton or a potential president barak and towards a diplomatic negotiations with iran that actually limits both the nuclear escalation that's a threat to to the entire region or whether they want to actually push for escalation that could be that could backfire for the whole region one of the reasons i'm concentrating on iran is because i think that is going to be a key foreign policy defining issue for the u.s. for the next 4 years whoever's in charge nancy soderberg would you agree that iran is the key defining policy. it's certainly an important piece of it but i wouldn't limit it unfortunately it's not that simple i think the saudis are going to be a key what is our relationship with them where are they headed and i think. china
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and russia are probably a bigger challenge in terms of the scale of the problem but look though the inbox of the president is full of challenges and i think if you look at the protests at the 2 presidents. addressing iran's nuclear challenges is clearly better at the negotiating table than a military campaign i would disagree that. president trump is thinking about really a military campaign in iraq he wants to bring our troops home not send them he did take some military strikes against them and still money. pinprick things like that but there's no grand strategy to have a strong military and so we all running out of time and i want to get rid of the gas as well robbie sable in west jerusalem if you were advising this incoming president whoever it may be what would be the defining foreign policy issue that you would be talking to him about how to own or do you go on it's important to mind
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that iran is a member of the n.p.t. and it violated and it's international atomic energy authority that already if it really isn't even a member of the n.p.t. and has nuclear weapons. i mean whatever you got what are you going with this is well it's not a member of the n.p.t. but iran is and it violated and the full the un that he violated i'm the only way about this is but that's why they had a deal in 2015 so we wouldn't be violated the was a deal that was going to take. the deal was temporary that's why it was not a good deal i agree it's better to put it off for 10 years fuck everybody we all know we are obviously we are running out of time so i just want to say what is if iran for you the us the key issue for the us it's a key not only to is over the whole middle east could one gets nuclear weapons we're going to see a nuclear arms race in the middle east in nobody's interest it's in the us interest
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the world interest to make to look at iran does not add a new bit weapon permanently not just to put it off a number of years early in london what's your reaction to that just quickly. no i think the 1st and foremost thing that any use of instruction us to do is look for a conflict concentration would be involved on the regional playing field yes maybe there isn't a military campaign underway but the sort of military escalation that seen very quickly get out of hand exactly as the u.s. on this administration is also increasing things like cargo and bessel inspections from iran it's not to match with a similar response in places like the straits of hormuz secondly i do think that if any u.s. administration is serious about that manic never has been involved on the nuclear issue they need to move quickly and fast equal nation with european allies the prime reason iraq you can act he's another one of them back and there will be in need right economically pull clothes so any u.s. administration will crack to unclench it's based on sanctions and white certain
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amount of economic relief to iran to make not feasible i want to thank all our guests nancy soderberg robbie sable and ellie john meyer and thank you for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website or does their adult called a further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com for slash a.j. inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter we are at a.j. inside story from am wrong town and the whole team headed by fellow. dissecting the headlines in the midst of a pandemic let's start with some of the on the ground realities affecting the news coverage what's the lay of the land there stripping away the spent reaping story about presidential corruption it is real reporting it's not if you're keen on
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