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india this has implications for the rest of the world we meet with global newsmakers and talk about the stories that matter. to me ok today on the string we ask why are so many indigenous young people imprisoned in australia some as young as 10 years old there will be parts of today's show that deal with issues of suicide and self harm so i want to warn you so that your pet and if you're watching live on you tube you can share your thoughts and ask i guess questions me just jump into the chat and i will try to get your comments into the shop. indigenous australians are imprisoned at disproportionate rights they are more likely to go to prison than black americans with long campaigned against high rates

of incarceration indigenous children are particularly badly affected in australia they are 15 times more likely to end up in juvenile detention the white children our colleagues at al jazeera as 101 east have been investigating this issue and have just released a film called young but and behind pasts how it. it's that storage room is among. the super people going to prison. in this world install. it was just a little rare and the you just fill up your courage to move things are. going through.

its. 16 year old. to the store. most of the loesch here. are still feeling their kids. are. joining us to talk about the incarceration of indigenous youngsters meghan crocker is director of the national suicide prevention and trauma recovery project naomi muffy is a community activist and kristi sharma is

a senior research at with human rights watch we also asked the government's national indigenous australians agency to join us but they toned down our invitation bought they did send a statement and i will be sharing that with you a little bit later on ladies thank you so much for being part of today's show make and there are just 2 numbers that are in my head right now one is 10 that's the age of criminal responsibility l strain the other one is 50 times more in teaching as youngsters are incarcerated what young says in australia those 2 numbers are shock. what does that mean to family and if we take it away from numbers and we talk about family what does that mean. it means that it's broken families families that are hit with a debate subjected to racism or discrimination. law is actually pretty clear here in which this right now as mentioned in the other video here we have

a mother and the discrimination is really what we are putting national suicide prevention and. direct my colleague and i your job is going to be 12100000 people since september last year coming into contact with families who are broken there's little good there's so much the spirit but being at the coalface it's either. and it's really. in the sense of the outrage that dealing with people of young children has been years old 1112 years old working in some of the banks you know over a short period of time. you can see that there are many challenges for our people and our young people in today's climate in which they stray any practical this nation are in trouble. namely you appreciate this because when you were young you had a brush with a norm or more than once can you explain how

a young person is from. the indigenous community in australia how. get into that situation because their schools effect in this present. you know that's right so speaking a bit more personal journey over the years that has not only given me healing been an understanding as to why things were the way they were with amazing young girl so i grew up in a home where there was. lots of. family violence and abuse but that came from my mum being of stolen generation and as a young girl i didn't understand that so growing up i followed in those footsteps of my aboriginal mother who i love dearly but i had a lot of trauma so i was the install in boy my mother's white foster father which

they put me in a cycle of around 11 years of age of starting to come in contact with the justice system and experimented with drugs and alcohol and crime i mean people in canada were on satellite to stalin generation isn't it also people in different parts the well where there is colonialism or there was playing these and and basically what happened for the stolen generation was children were taken away from their families and putting institutions or other families because they felt that they could be looked after better were off them with their indigenous or 1st nation families that in itself is our whole conversation but just says that you want to stand what happened to naomi interesting the enough there are voices of accountability in this one i want to mention i want you to hear one of them this is tony hassle he's a corrective services commissioner for western australia and here's he is explaining why it is so many indigenous youngsters are incarcerated let's have

a listen. today indigenous incarceration rates continue to increase between 2004 and 24 tane the number of aboriginal prisoners nationally rose by 8 percent i accept that there are too many aboriginal people in prison i think we have to own up britain incredibly complex problem to resolve is the system for a sister i don't think so what we're dealing with is as i've said a group of people emerging from karzai and we have to be honest about it and accept . colonialization not racism it's interesting at 10 a hassle is able to separate those 2 could i know you've spent a lot of time looking at indigenous incarcerated people would you just say it's just systemic racism that's what it is. well it's you know it's the result of you know as a dispossession structure discrimination into generation trauma and

definitely bases the current situation is a national tragedy where you have generations of indigenous families that are in a revolving door caught in prison you know i've met a number of prisoners where you know i meet the person but their fathers and their cousin is also there and the uncle sorts of that and they're all in prison and i think it's important to highlight that this is not new this has been going on for you know over the last 3040 yos and more and there has to be political will to address the situation the stories that we have documented are just heartbreaking prison is a damaging leaks and it's often deadly we have seen very high read of deaths in custody particularly of people with disabilities indigenous people with disabilities and i think that needs to change. no i mean when that. go ahead go

ahead oh no it's just going to say state's attorney has all and the national suicide prevention for recovery project there has been a lot of profound were done in a community. of gratitude for the great support for some of the most marginal us and vulnerable in terms of the rights of the rest of them sent back to the original sin of the oppressed and it's still continuing in to today so into. it the criminal justice system which makes up the courts place the prison but it's better than that it's more than that it's about the government government since the calling on special have continually sought out a full year in year out so in terms of witness right where we are the mother or child we've had 393 paper type the last last 383 yet we only make for example the state population in terms of the incarceration right the young people going in and

out of prison it has increased every single year and it's not getting any better in terms of pointlessness homelessness is absolutely apparently sure that the big paper not only in western australia but in date across the nation so you have people coming out of prison and what no way to go to that is a systemic failure and that is the failure of the school government so until we get that right until the voices of the papal are included in these policies ringback in these strategies nothing will get better that's a great really painful i'm going to take many houses are being priced too many about paypal which i absolutely love doing because that's what i'm doing that's why i am but the bottom line is this the grim reality is that we have great time and time again while one covered the next and it's having a profound impact on our table. and just to add to that if i mean i think it's not just about over representation in the justice system it's about 9 what happens behind the closed doors prison is like

a black hole once people go in there is very little information and what happens to them and human rights watch has done a lot of research into the abuse and neglect indigenous prisoners face in prison particularly those with disabilities they can be routinely bullied harassed sexually and physically abused and one of the critical issues that we see is the use of solitary confinement because there is a lack of training in staff you know a cry for help is often seen as behavior that is disobedient or someone who is acting up and so the response is punitive people are locked up in a cell for over 22 hours a day in extremely sterile conditions you know given a smock to wear. a heavily monitored environment on the c.c.t.v. camera and this just a very good i lack of support and services in terms of mental health care so people

really do have a sock to self. and often end up attempting to pick their own lives as meghan said because of the feel off the stage to provide any support that is absent questions from people watching right now and i want to put. a you can take this one why are 10 and 11 year olds not separated from older children what is the situation in western australia. very young people who are incarcerated where are they compared to older children. so when with this right they have one juvenile detention center and that's throughout the whole state in which this phrase the message that but for example children who don't really can relate they have become a bit on the way through why we have family so there is only one institution with mystery where you know that irene has written and that's a huge flight and some of the galaxies have never been on

a plane before and they're taken from an area that is outback it's rural and then they're sent somewhere else or so away from their parents and their babies like a teller 11 year old as a baby or this one i'm going to fight this one teen i mean this is also on the stand some people are asking this is this is a question for the ages why are indigenous people treated so badly i mean if you thought that look you know that's that's a good question i think that it goes back to what the other ladies were saying before around us is dimmick racism and just the way these countries brain drain you know established on lies and racism and the genocide of our people so 'd it can be in direct as well you know i remember as a young girl being at school and i was almost a group gated from from my aboriginal students and

classmates and yeah i was picked on of a lot of promise school so even by most cool teachers so i think that it's just the way it is in this so-called lucky country. let me bring in tina kelly who is in. documentary i'm going to go to back and straight after this i want to see what meghan dollars often she is in the community she's a support system she is a shoulder to cry on you're going to see this literally make in montana kelly lost her son he committed suicide or he was incarcerated he was a young person and i want you to see what meghan douse for her job and how she tries to help us have a. charlie was living on the streets and took his own life after his lawyer told him he was likely to go to jail for 4 years the commission.

him is. coming. so you must. please. that's where i don't think you. make him do you remember that moment. most definitely it's really heartbreaking. i had a lot of encouragement that is that locally to reach all job was innocent so the

same person her going to die since we heard what happened just to reach out and show that love and respect and to see if there was anything that we could do to help them get through my one of the most kind moments of the whole entire lot when you lose somebody and especially when you leave somebody so young that has found the impact one occurred and basically it's about showing that love and caring that respect and helping pay for $3.00 moments. not only have we engaged with one to them but the way that we deal with a national suicide prevention 12 recovery project is that we engage with the whole family and work through the arc of the shooting since we've been engaging with so many papers we haven't lost anyone and that's not doing especially about they married turning up and we're going to ask the she's a lady a practical solutions and one of the folks about what we said intense like a social support which is $24.00 seventh's going to the paper because we do recognize that we support the narrative that people across the nation one who has

a beautiful lady and we're still waiting there and many of the families we work with a year 2 years on we don't close any one out and that's just how we. and what i noticed on tina's situation and also kristie you've mentioned this is what often. there are families who are incarcerated there are moms his daughters are incarcerated brothers his little brothers are incarcerated now may you were nodding up a storm when christie was talking about that you recognize that that happened to here you there's been 3 generations of women in my family that have been through the justice system so my name my aboriginal man was thrown into jail after the children were stolen and then my mother. had contact with the justice system and the noise. unfortunately followed in the same footsteps but of managed to break that cycle mail with my own children and that's recalled to healing and that journey of. great connecting with my ideality in aboriginality i want to move us on

a little bit because these stats the no this is not suddenly breaking news for strain breaking news for indigenous communities around australia so what are people doing now reckon you're doing what christy you are doing the research the information is out there so how are people reacting i want to introduce shooting daniel carrington he's a police cadet he's an indigenous police cadet have a listen have a look. at those people. my friends my family closer to. tripoli one to 3 months to like them but for me. i'm still the same person just in a blue uniform. i think it's the same issue with anybody who works from a community that goes work for please people like what you doing that for the next

if he makes an interesting point let him do you think that will help if the people who are in sourcing the war if they come from indigenous communities they understand the community and they're not likely to throw people into prison for reasons that are more to do with poverty and generational trauma and less seen from inside the community and i'm not punishing them for basically the legacy of colonialism. and having people in the system is really and it's got change and good image trust of all working lives it's increases but it's on the front line in the place where they we're looking at so we become the quick steps of the mess we have in westminster here of course and most of us in. recruiting every little paper lead 'd to the original it can be really quite difficult for example the criminal to become so ready to start again to get into

one of these we're also going to be an issue so i really wish that strayer wanted well which will mean. and that's really quite high so when you get to a point where you can actually have some form we can actually yes as a young person you may have been incarcerated so it is very but when 302020 years later you do so i think i'm going to become a prison officer or a place officer when you say that we get an order to that person in many cases it's not and that's one of the systemic failures that we have as a nation. currently facing us but here it's used to or it's a beautiful thing where you can actually help your community and we have only inside but it's not easy let me bring into the conversation i can. come right back to you just to give me a moment appalling right is a present of a more council of australia she spoke to us a little bit about restaurants what reforms i have

a lesson. reason the indigenous in cancer insurance isn't higher complex but we know it results from intergenerational drummer disadvantaged reform has to include raising need minimum wage a greater responsibility just as reinvestment it's community driven to specialise in a sentence includes the priority in juvenile detention should be rehabilitation unit essentially it means including the recommendations of. reports yeah lassies conference just a script would roll commission into the protection detention of children in new jersey treat them royal commission into aboriginal deaths in custody for stop hopefully as i have got the report in one of them 2 of them 3 of them go for it i mentioned earlier the national indigenous australians agency they were not available to come on the this is the statement they shared with us studying government is committed to working with the states and territories to address the drivers of indigenous incarceration and improve justice and community safety

outcomes for indigenous australians now they are saying that they have provided $216000000.00 and they'll committing another 200 to 67700000 in the next year i can see reckon a saying in forward what i'm going to push this to critique 3 and no that's ok. what did they say but what do they say all they can with the critique this whole idea of reform the numbers of a your research is that human rights watch numerous community organizations are really pushing for this idea of black ice matter in the astray and context how hopeful are you that something is going to change that now. well i think you you know to be realistic the reports that mentioned the royal commission from 1901 you know it's been 30 years since the recommendations of this so they really

need to be political yes funding is important but the approach and the attitude needs to change you know as she said you were seeing that the approach is very punitive you need more training for stuff you need more aboriginal and torres strait islander people and stuff currently like western australia has only 4 percent of aboriginal and torres strait islander people and stuff so it's very very law and above all the laws need to be changed you know not raising the age of criminal responsibility is one but there needs to be a ban on the use of solitary confinement be needs to be more monitoring of prisons so the abuse stops then needs to be you know better training so that the service the provided enough in a manner that is appropriate for people who indigenous to do if you are an aboriginal person in prison you do not want to seek health services because it is

a barrier it is a lot of research them you are all all sorts of names you're insulted on a daily being hit by a prison officials but i think it has to be a more comprehensive form. and also made then you inspired a huge conversation is going on right now and the each in each of us thank you very much for engaging that conversation ladies thank you very much for being guests on the show we are not over yet there's so much more to talk about have a look on my laptop i would love for you to go watch that and behind bars. one o one documentary that we have been talking about for the past 25 minutes and the correspondent and producer of that film will be joining a.j. stream on instagram on thursday at 2038. he can't stay drew be there any other day because we will record it leave it there for you 2030. ambrose and myself talking about incarcerating people and indigenous young people

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