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like not to protest is to be targeted by the police. the question should be all of the talk to these. i know you have thoughts about the way in if you want to get into the comment section to be part of today's discuss. i wish to keep back teaching all 6 year when there was some money that i protest, people waiting in the streets. i want to get a sense of why are protesting, in particular, was protesting against police brutality being targeted at people who are black and brown in the united states. so this is i don't hear,
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it's either had something to remember that was effected by the police people or to turn up because it is literally years of oppression. there's only so much people can take that are oppressed with this capitalistic society. all this, this is what i bring. this is exactly what it brings, better people. we don't want this to happen again. this is going to happen and bowed her head over and over again. so now we're all here. we doing exactly what they gave us. they gave us that we don't want to be out here. that's my one protest and was out protesting just a couple of weeks ago. let me guess because they understand what it's like to protest. they are at least as well as being a break down. what is happening, perhaps, who protest is annoying slawson. hi, michael, introduce yourself to what he said. everybody can do. hi. my name is michael and call. i serve as executive director of the prosecution project. and we're
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a long term data science project focused on cataloging and understanding help political violence has prosecuted united states. if you michael maximo, welcome to the streaming studio south, tight international audience. hello, my name is maxima, i live in arizona, a community organizer, long term, around the issue of immigration and that intersection, that would, you know, there were to speaking about policing, criminalization, immigration? thank you. and look, i'm back to 0. it's really good to see you, please remind people who you are and what my name is, bruce very soon or ferguson from the is now living in phoenix. i'm a former elected officials that representative members are also have an amazing documentary where al jazeera and m r. a virus, a large number are going to liberation peace. i'm really glad you mentioned that
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document. because in that documentary, we see in much we see much these kind of the lines matter movement. when you walk out on testing, what are you seeing from you and force me? how can you explain to people what may well be happening to activists on the streets from what happened in this, from my personal experience or from what i've seen is the fact that activists protesters organizers we have been the accountability measures for the system are force met for a very long time and they don't know how to handle that. and so they, you know, arrest, you must, these trumped up charges in order to silence us. and i think that's what you've been saying is kind of his over forcing it. you know, i mean of, of silence and those who have voices and who are willing to speak up and be
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unapologetic and expanses. michael essien articulate not. i mean, i think we're certainly seeing a lot of heavy handed prosecutions. and one of the things i think a lot about 6 spectator track protests and protests really to the arrests was we expected large scale mass demonstrations and large scale mass arrests. somewhere that we saw in the earlier parts of 2017, but we're actually not seeing that. what we are seeing is lots of people more than 300 people being arrested federally and being charged with pretty strong cases built against them. and then approximately, and this is a very hard number to estimate, but approximately 20000 people arrested throughout the united states on charges below the federal level. makes an easy excuse, is you know what it's like, can you tell a little bit of that story, give us an insight about what it's like to be the fling just on the other side of
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the influence. yes. so at the end of, at the end of may, when the uprising was beginning, i was actually arrested with a group of 114 people. and the police department, local police department had absolutely no play and on how to process all of us. there was no plan and even what time it was, what the charges were basically just creating anything on the spot to write on this report as chris was just saying, trumped up charges that were there illegally arrests. i was actually a passenger in a vehicle driving off the protests during the time that the police just barricaded the whole entire neighborhood, the one entire block that was that people were out. and so there was no reason for a lot of the arrests. there was definitely the weapons are used and to the people drawn weapons that were there. so very an escalation that we have seen at least 2017 every single year. now we haven't seen except that the most obvious police and
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the nation. and so you know what, what's a directory does that say we don't address the so shows now where will it lead us the next 3 or 3. ringback years from now, if this is not accountability that's not happened yet, i would have been an additional voice into our conversation, who points to just number of months of playing chess and will make some very similar his toughness. we're 93 percent of protests associated with the matter movement since the summer has been peaceful, meaning, demonstrators have been engaged in a violence. fandor was looting. and despite being overwhelmingly a peaceful movement beyond protests have been met with government intervention more frequently relative to other protests and relative to transplant center. in the thirty's are using force like tear gas pepper spray record all, it's well over half the time when responding to these protests, which is a really significant increase relative to trance. we saw last summer and in some
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contexts like and or a little for example, this really heavy handed police response has actually inflamed sentients and increase the risk that while escalation michael, these heavy handed response, i always feel really naive, even even articulate to get by. i don't want to say it myself. why is these happening? it's a matter of trying to this, is that predominately people of color out there on the streets? people who support that? why is this such issue of force against them and 93 percent using not that i completely nonviolent protests. i mean, it's always hard to interpret how, you know, why these things are occurring. certainly one of the things we've noticed is that the framing in terms of the media and a lot of politicians is this notion of violent black lives matter. activists pliant violent and teach violent and archivists. but what we're actually seeing is that
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most of the demonstrations and most of the crimes are occurring that are being prosecutors are property crimes where we're not seeing wide scale assault charges, we're not seen wide scale physical violence. so it does seem though that the agenda of arresting people in these particular cases and in building these particular prosecutions for the protection of property, which is why we see more people in indicted for you know, arson charges, for example, as compared to unlawful assembly charges or or a more traditional charge that we've seen and the demonstrations. one of the things that i think has brought this to a lot of our attention and a lot of people are finding this particularly odd, is that the traditional ways in which protests are policed and prosecuted. for example, on lawful assembly charges or disorderly conduct, charges are not what we're seeing. and instead we're seeing people indicted for, you know, are significant interstate commerce, which is a far harder charge to defend against than something like unlawful assembly. which
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is totally looted by replays from the conflict. and thanks to what they are sharing with the public. if you go to the website, and this is quite stunning, the known balls to turn chests. a many people want out there on the street. and then look how many french is just gradually fooling away to get to increase the list. a few, a few, a maximum can speak to that. this is a right and i want to touch, do instituting an essay by eric ward where he means i have to, which is sort of here in america, the more liberal, you know, fighting for human rights and sort of becoming this racial racial. i swear to policing people of color and the escalation around that in the numbers around that . and so we saw a really this peak of folks are coming out speaking around their rights. people are
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coming out for the 1st time. and really what we have seen is that there are these arrests, they are actually and trying to intimidate and silence a lot of the voices that were out in the streets another. i think i came out for myself. i am a doctor recipient, which means i am not, a us citizen. i am permitted to be here and work in the u.s., but when i was arrested i was transferred to immigration and i was at the urging of ending up in a detention center and ultimately facing deportation. and so all these risks, you know, that, that puts a different mindset of like am i going to go out and protest, use my voice and speak out about what's happening and what we're seeing. and that's all to attack, you know, to create fear, lands and who normally try to normalize what we're seeing, which is not something that should be happening. and we're going to continue to use our voice in a variety of planes. but you know, we see the impacts and the effects of the number of folks that come out and continue to to voice their concerns. do you see concise and then likely to become
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a fight morning or whatever game that maximus? i think people like back here in phoenix, i think a person right, a young man who was hit on the pool and held in jail for a week for basically speed you know, in speaking out and having a strong voice. i think of folks like maximum, myself and other activists and organizers here who, you know, have the ability to persecute you know, one thing that i say is that it doesn't just impact you. one way. it's just multifaceted impact on your livelihood or your mental health. especially for the folks as max was for, you know, for the folks who are just coming out here in making their voice heard for the 1st time in a fuel capacity. they feel strong and they come out into the streets and
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a lot of them have never had a brush with law enforcement. a lot of them have never been arrested. so it's curious that you know those most who maybe more seasoned or been through this, been through this and further are going to 6 years. so it doesn't affect me as much mentally as it would. someone who's just stepping out here. and what they see is that are out there, you see a multitude of people from different backgrounds from different walks of life. and those folks will be scared because they haven't had these brush brushes with law enforcement. and that's exactly what they're trying to do. something that was there earlier when talk about these protests we were talking about, you know, this idea impeding traffic. and i simply don't i think back to st. louis, where we were able to have a judge come down and say, hey, you can't deem something because you don't like working for
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a sim that directly infringes on your fires are offered. i mean their rights well as in traffic or obstruction, basically block. and it's of those things that the police use in order to start these kind of domino effect of prosecuting and charges and so on. and so they use all these tactics to use all these terrorists and basically beat us down. but at the end of the day, even though we have 60 people there and seeing them make out what he said is exactly right, i'm going to going to go ahead and i'm going, i'm going to jump in here because i want you to hear from the attorney, cool johnson. it's what michael, that's what i just. yeah, i want to say that. i mean, certainly we see the effects of these, that the chilling of dissent, the criminalization of protesters without question. you know, since, you know,
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midway into the obama administration will say 201520168, lot of people have been paying more and more attention to these so called anti protest laws. there are some good resources out there. people are tracking them, but what percent is exactly right. you know, we see these, you know, in a sense that prosecutorial farnese are raising the bar so that there's potentially higher and higher consequences for people coming into the streets. and so for those of us who have a higher tolerance for that because of experience, you know, maybe we're still going to go. but for people who go out for the 1st time and see rubber, bullets and pepper spray and people around them being charged federally. the chance of them coming out a 2nd time is very, very slim. i think that's entirely the intention of the scenes that to an attorney who john phillips, who's represented a number that like to be some justice. and this is what he told us about the impact of 20 means sleepy by the police. if you will, that she just tasting. we've represented several individuals who've been wrongfully
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arrested for simply protesting. they've been arrested from everything from being in the street to being on a public sidewalk, to actually filming the police. in each case, the charges were dropped, but the problem is, the stigma doesn't end there. the arrest record can stay on their background check . they may only have a limited number of expungement where that can be erased the employment ramifications, the personal ramifications, sic, even on these on lawful illegal and unconstitutional arrests. police need to be held to a higher standard. so you guess i want to dip into this nation is happening at the same time as you're speaking to the t.v. unions. and i want to share some stills with you in an instant reactions that maxim since the majority of rice with justified because of the vandalism. looting soules, accenture don't put yourself in that situation,
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that's not the same back today. so i think it's a very when the livelihood and literally the lives of everyday people in my community are at stake. it's really hard to not put myself or to take action. and actually call on something that's, i'm just, there's murders happening like it's, that's cannot and should never be normalized. and i also want to call the, you know, it's like, why are we not questioning the actual abuse and use of lethal weapons that the police are using on people every day people. and we didn't see these attacks until we were actually caught calling on the, the funding calling on the, you know, we have a lot of protected immunity where you cannot and there's no process to hold police accountable. and so it's the accountability of the system that needs to shift and to be really this mountain in a different way. it's not, it was never meant at least here in the u.s. to protect people of color. and it still operates and works in that way. and that's
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what we should be questioning, not why the people are coming out and asking these questions, what it's like, why is the police being allowed to do and continue to do? and this is police and that's law enforcement and all types of agencies all the across the country. let me put this one to charlotte a who brian. right when his silence into the d.l. and peaceful protests, you don't have to agree with charlotte. i'm interested to hear i mean certainly, you know, in your mix between the $300.00 plus cases in which we're tracking some of those are right wing cases. and some of those are what we can call left wing cases or demonstrators cases. so there's no question that there are right wing agitators. i don't buy the notion that, you know, in a sense there's clandestine agents either on the right or the left, stirring up violence going, i have, i been a demonstration organizer and you know, for a further long time, i feel like i have a good grasp on how these things work because outside agitator, narrative,
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whether it's coming from the right or in this case kind of for trying, there is a problem. i think it's very problematic. the notion that outside people come in and rile people up has extremely racist and anti-semitic connotations. and it's not something that we should kind of parrot because it denies the whole agency not on a man that's is factually inaccurate and has very little basis in reality. jason di a swatch, he's only, she was no bruce, he wants to know what he sees the way forward for him with us as a society because i know you've been thinking about this, that the way i see forward is martin luther king's looks and he do something not because it's political, not, it's safe, not because it's popular, but because our conscience tells us right. oh, and we've been in this idea of safety in this idea of staying in the middle and we haven't,
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we haven't embraced things like defunding the police. and when we talk of black and brown communities, this will possibly affect the law enforcement. and we come out and say, hey, how about we defund the police? how about we take money and put back into our communities and, and replace the resources that have been stripped out. the education jobs be access to mental health resources, whatever his own can ingest the issues and the inner community, the violence that's going on. and we can address that from the front end. there probably won't meet police that. well, we don't need them, you know, coming into our communities and treating us like that's on a so for the way for us to move forward is to understand math. is this school that has a school where i'm sure it's a school to say all these different things one to you show us our lives matter. that's, you know, that's how we're going to be able to move forward. we want to be able to move, people being willing to be uncomfortable. come out of your silos, come out of your,
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you know, rooftops and your high tech, last apartment or wherever it is and come down to the streets or anything. these conversations would be, cuz if we're not going to have a conversation, if we're not going to address the issues that directly affect us, the only chance to move forward in the end. we also have to understand that not everybody is going to be able to fall. some people need to be have and i think those little ways to, you know, that we can start to this england who fall. but i want to just a really quick way when, who is talking of the the, those who show up and the vandalism. it's on a so what you can compare it to a window due to a bullet through and when you talk about whether the folks on the folks on the right, if i organize a protest and there's a young brother there from, from the community, from the, from and he decides to do a group through a window. what i'm going to do is i'm going to embarrass him. i may not be the one
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drawn to great. i may not be the one condone it, but what i'm going to do, i want to embrace him because what i understand is more, i'm thinking to write in some language of the unheard who's not listening to this young man. because at the end of the day in our communities, the police show up when we stand in a coma all this militarizing, they come with all these things only to protect property. if an athlete throws a gator, a bottle of across a field we say is passion. if college screws burnell car outside of a national championship event, they get a slap on the wrist. but if a young black man, a young black woman, somebody of color breaks a window or sets a trash can on fire the end, they are domestic terrorists because they got sick because law enforcement, florida showed up in their community and decided to protect the property revenue and protect people, as it was supposed to know, was a young man in ferguson. we said in a meeting he say, i wish i was a downed power bill. i was going downtown because what we saw is that law
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enforcement showed up and put barricades around his downtown. and they showed up in force, fully armored to protect these downtown buildings of black folks that are half a mile away that are on extreme challenges and very, you know, i mean shows up to protect them. so i don't want to hear bricks through a window or buildings, or anything else until you address the black and brown bivens of me and women who are transparently. and everybody knows that elaine in the streets and has a long i don't, i don't want to come out with ramping up the coming close to the end. i'm sinking if you know, when i change that you get protests in the streets on the enforcement. one of the strategies that you employ to make sure that you say as safe as possible. yeah, i think the 1st one would be likely or communication. who are like making sure that
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you're there with a group that you're there with people that you trust that you have that look out of the you know what it, where are the police at? are they are ready and right here, have they made an announcement? what type of announcement, diving down are these details because that's something that we can use in the future. and we also want, especially here in arizona, we know that the police come out and respond in an entirely different great way to our stop to the left and to the right. you have folks that are coming out with rifles with weapons and their response and with from the other side. and the police do not do anything to them. they don't come out in the same way that they come out and attack our on the back of our community and our license. so making sure that you keep an eye out. we know that there's violence. we know that the police is that i'm here to protect those and we need to be vigilant. when we come out in that way, i want to leave you with one mostly says this is from angie shoe, who is a dot com essential necessity of funny that we're going to the u.k. to talk about some of this very straightforward. so 1st amendment rights,
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police are always going to want to protest, but we're not done in a predictable predatory way. it's dangerous, but it was a mother that happening with that phrase might in the us, the f.b.i. reports that white supremacists tell people, created american, or was meant as an argument to be made, hit that police surveillance of black eyes might protest, isn't about questioning violence, but rather about actively stamping out movement. and although protest is in shrine and in the 1st amendment of the united states constitution, the police surveillance and intimidation of draco's matter, protesters under the press during the protest reads in that, having to ignore that protest is a legitimate democratic too. and it's also part of the 1st amendment, the right to assemble freely. i want to say thank you to michael to maxima and to bruce. bruce will be coming to the instagram live conversation. you'll be able to see that on t v. on the a.j. stream, instagram account anytime through monday. but for now,
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thank you. guests c.c. . the little movement
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