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we're really interested in taking you into a place that you might not visit otherwise and to actually feel as if you were there a dangerous journey for a new life. hundreds of migrants die off the coast of west africa on a route that have been largely abandoned. so why are they now risking everything to get them on the site folks in the north atlantic? this is inside story. hello, welcome to the program. and it's a sea journey to europe once shunned by many migrants for being too dangerous, is busy. again, hundreds of drowned this year in the north atlantic ocean. in the latest incident on monday night,
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at least 80 people were killed when the engine of their fishing boat exploded near cape cod. the vessel carried about 150 people mainly from senegal and gambia. it's believed they were trying to reach the canary islands, a spanish territory, and a gateway to your the north atlantic route became popular after european governments clamped down on crossings through the mediterranean coast guard to say more than $16000.00. people have reached the canary islands this year. but 10 times last year's total, more than half of them arrived in the past month. refugee reception centers are full. some migrants are living in hotels. up before the pandemic would have been packed with tourists. but 2000 people have been sleeping in the open by the harbor in gran canaria. the spanish government is promising to build more emergency shelters and increased naval patrols to rescue migrants. locals say the situation is inhumane and degrading the event of
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a death if we are here fighting for a more dignified reception system for people arriving at our island seeking a better life, we want a chance to offer them a more humane reception and the conditions of the harbor, we're also here to fight against the latest racist behaviors that we have seen in our island and also because no human being is eagle. let's bring in our guests in dakar. mamadou manga. he's coordinator of the human rights organization. and a dire poll where he advocates for migrants returning from abroad in madrid, public laziness, a spokesman for doctors of the world, and joining us from brussels, livea diaz, policy analyst at the european policy center. welcome. so each of you and olivia, i'll begin with you. why is this particular route getting busy again? well, there's a range of factors as you know, is it yourself one significant element,
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the increasing controls in the western mediterranean cooperation between spain and morocco, to tackle smuggling and arrivals to strengthen significantly since 2018. so that is one of the reasons that that route has become less viable and more people are crossing the atlantic displaced despite the great arrests. there's also been an increasing complex in this to help particularly in mali. of course covered 1000 house worse and such economic conditions. but the recent difficult point here is that the present rivals isn't that new. of course it's increased aster recently, but we started seeing this already in 2019. so this raises, i think, important questions about everything else that could have been done to prepare for a rise in rival's. that was quite predictable. for example, to set up perceptions centers to invest into reception facilities. so you have the capacity to deal with an increase in arrivals in the canary islands. and so you didn't have to rely on emergency accommodation that isn't suitable for adequate reception conditions. ok, i'm, i'm a do. why do you, why do you think the route is getting busier again?
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well, we're all open for the world bank and the euro. the number one thing, how poor when people are moving the zoo because simply because of the loss of policies that can be granted to them on the contrary. and then to public use to that thing and then to they have milked the senses. and then you see a new term for them to sow. rather i'm going to pursue such as either i or other gods. so this is to completion. we haven't come to the number one did, then this is secondly, when we decide to do if the defense is made demanded by the film company is in terms of in the service of the brothers and the rest of them. let's be in the position to move and mobility the rights committed by the
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international community to include for to the dissolution of my life's circumstances. you know enough this human beings have a choice to move from the souls to live or they want to. so the limitations of the mobility of today, which is general of to the full this is going to buy you to think in terms of my, my wish from one, let's say 2 isn't we can say. and do also, we can also know that our work or the government will not implemented my going to the policies that can grant he one simple device to move a source of us through to he that's a politically involved in the process of the mentee policies. in that country, ok, i will come back to the policy and shortly we'll just cover the situation as it is today. at the moment i'm popular you'll,
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you've got colleagues on the ground that are in the canaries. what is the situation at the moment? and one of the what's happening to those migrants who are evicted from the poaching canary particularly well, the situation and grab a gun. i am in. it's particularly worrying. we have to point out that i did. the situation is clearly an acceptable from a humanitarian point of view. there's a lack of, it's an important lack of infrastructure and it has led to turn to the port harbor of again into a measure that tension there says read a reception center where the conditions are better deficient around 2200 migrants are being housed there. and the conditions such as sad, sad,
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are really worrying. we are seeing how people are packed in intense that are a lot are thought to have capacity for $5050.00 people. but they are leaving the huddle up to $100.00 people in each of the stands. which as you can imagine, as makes it impossible, for example, to, to maintain the basic safeguards against the copy it 19, so displaces the risk of s.e.'s health. but that's, are they held at a serious risk they, what we have, we have heard from our colleagues there that the migrants in this harbor that not having access to sufficient drinkable water. they're not having access to quality food. they claim that they haven't even shot word for almost 10 days and definitely their health condition is not being that unique offered by the author. it uses, there's only 11 doctor and one nurse to to provide health assistance,
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4 days 2200 people. so this is really a very war and situation. ok. olivia, how is the corona virus outbreak being playing a role in this? because i read, particularly people in senegal in gambia, in morocco might once have made money this year from tourists that haven't been any . is that increasing the for the migrant flows? it's certainly a factor, not only because of the direct impact that qubit 1000 has had on certain economies in certain populations who of course may fear catching the virus. but also because of the related meshes, for example, border closures have had very negative impact on west africa and northern african economies. a lot of commerce is conducted just across the border. so in that falls apart, that you spoke elation in a very vulnerable situation. but it's also worth pointing out, i think that it is completely right that the situation in the islands, it's also a lot worse because of the fact that spain and many other e.u.
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member states are unable to provide adequate reception conditions in all areas is concerning. at the best of times, but it's especially concerning in the context of covert it in which there have been very clear e.u. guidelines about the need to provide suitable accommodation to separate groups from each other to allow physical distance to and allow basic hygiene, access to health care these things are not what we are seeing right now, and how do you know, i mean, and that is indeed quite concerning. and that is why, as i mentioned before, it's a shame that you have and have had for investment into reception facilities both before we saw this recent arrivals, but also at the start of the year when it became apparent that it would continue creasing. it's a shame that we haven't seen transfers to the mainland where there is adequate reception capacity. and it's also unfortunate that we haven't seen greater solidarity from other ear member states to support same and other countries, 1st arrival, such as crates. and it's really that have been facing some of the challenges the practicalities of the coronavirus, making it harder to help people on the canaries,
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on the other migrant dropping off points. well as sad as set the conditions and again are not suitable to provide the security situation for, for his people in there in the context of 19. i would like to point out in this and in a sense as well that one of the main issues in and i am going to get is also the lack of transparency. and neither n.g.o.s nor media can access to the hardware. so let me say that makes also very difficult for us to assess which, which is antimony to or which is the actual respect of human rights and the added basic conditions to provide ab an acceptable situation for his migrants. we know for sure that the people that are arriving today for the hardware i'm being given test to check whether they have that are not where they are not positive and go it bad as that. but again,
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it's very difficult to whenever they are set positive case adopted and the necessary measures to, to moni toller. all the people who have been in contact with this person. do you to decide that overcrowding meant the facilities in senegal, you have employment that are of 17 percent. unemployment of 17 percent of a nation of 16000000 people. half of them under the age of 20, we often hear the or peon union talking about trying to make a turn itself into a fortress, europe. but what can it do for countries like senegal to try and mitigate the amount of people trying to leave your country? well, there, one thing to do is do the right stuff for the young people and also to other areas of the sauce, put it in the tenses of the minds of them and then to do can lead them in, you know, so that's a good thing. i think are we have to this day to the best breakthrough
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when to fix the young people, you know, accomplish, is to create drops for them, but also to multiply the forgets it does exist and to provide for the other people i want that will. so to come back to the club of 9 to one of the reasons why young people now come to go to europe is that they have been coming to have been told that there is a lack of munto in new york and the number of deaths in the different countries of the gay think that once we have the is in the employment. so this is one of the reasons what some people in self told us fighting to do to move from the conflict. but i think then the gravest sensibility that is under, i mean 1st of all is of the governments, but also of the local local elected people. because migrant migration is something
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that is, i mean is done at the level of local tell, tell yourself there should normally design policies that can i mean limit their list of disclose, but also give the young people enough capacities in terms of employment in terms of 1st person so that they can forget about get up and try to promote themselves in their own country amadou kind of kind of quickly ask you then when, when people come back to senegal, who try to make it to your work, what are they who is telling them that europe is short of manpower. why, why are they leaving senegal in the 1st place and what do they find when they come back? what that, what that complaint? well, i was right. we are and you know, because, and that therefore is, has been, has been working with my questions and yes, what we are doing is
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a very good example that should be number to develop where we need to partner with us and time this is positive. you have to run to call the kind of mind that is sent that 7, 100 miles or so we give them capacity of the 21st of all, in terms of mileage months in terms of the face. how to, how to conduct and then to price. but also give them enough money, we give them money, or let's say that much to their sons, they can carry out our economy activities in order to be able to. also, there is a look at the policy, the mentee talking to the local, listed to integrate my within the local level plan. and so that i may be seen at the level of our limitations are i live here. we always hear about how much money europe is spending on keeping people out a $150000000.00 euros. for example, given to morocco last year,
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spain has given tens of millions of dollars to spend on scanners and drones. and much sort of thing, is that the way to manage this long term, or is there another way of getting economic support to these countries in the 1st place? i think that's a very good question. and i also want to set it in the context of the e.u.'s latest proposals, because around a month ago, the commission set forward a new pattern migration and asylum, which among other things places a very strong emphasis on the external dimension of migration. our whole creation with their countries. and indeed something that we have seen in the proposal is as you noted, a very large focus on return and readmission. the commission has stated that it wants partnerships with 3rd countries to have an even greater focus on the readmission of migrants. that least europe without permission to remain even greater than it has had in the past. for example, this looks like making development aid legal pathways, education and these opportunities for settlement contingent on whether countries cooperates with your own returns. and i think this is actually quite risky. on one
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hand, i'm not sure that it's going to be very helpful towards relations with 3rd countries because they tend to be kind of returns quite sensitive. so they tend to be quite reluctant to cooperate with europe on readmission. this is for a wide range of reasons, but largely because migration as part of their political economy, they, it's quite domestically unpopular to readmit migrants that have made it into europe and a broad range of other things make it quite sensitive. so personally, they find that the corporation and the relationship they have with europe is already very heavy, leaning towards return and readmission and not giving enough attention to other elements. they find important including legal pathways including development, making further work on these areas. contingent on readmission is likely to not lead to a long term, mutually beneficial partnership. that is, in my view, the best and most sustainable way to manage migration. but the 2nd concern is that if this fails and the e.u. doesn't successfully increase, the number of migrants returned,
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which is one of the ambitions of the new pact if their countries don't actually agree to that, i think a lot of the proposals on the new pact rely on this quite heavily. the whole package doesn't work as coherently anymore. if the e.u. doesn't actually increase the number of returns. so i think there's a significant risk of creating inflated heightened expectations can't be met and the e.u. may be setting itself up for failure. just quickly though, the e.u. was criticized for giving too much to countries like poland and hungary and the czech republic who were against more external european migration, giving too much for them rather than creating a policy that would want to welcome genuine migrants and provide a quick streamlined system for them to settle in europe, is that the problem they gave too much to the, to the populist countries or leaders, if you will. that's a common criticism of the new pact. indeed, i think when the commission was setting out these proposals, it had a very strong, real politik that shouldn, its party was clearly to find agreement between member states for good reason as
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well because disagreements between those countries and 7 european countries have blocked progress on common european asylum policy for several years because of these divisions. so i understand the rationale and wanting to find something that all member states could agree on. and indeed, one of the ways that it has done so is by creating a new solidarity mechanism by which all your member states would have to support those facing the most pressure and the most arrival. so spain, greece, italy, for example, they can choose how to do so they can do so by either asylum seekers, which is what these countries have called for, or by sponsoring returns to their countries, or in some cases for operational assistance. many people argue that this is indeed ceding a lot of ground to base a grab states, hungary, poland, etc. who don't want to relocate asylum seekers. but there is one important element which is that they would still, if they fail to conduct those returns. after 8 months, they would have to transfer those potential returnees to their territory to
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continue conducting their returns from there. and that is something that these countries are very unhappy with. so negotiations will certainly be very complicated . red lines necessarily have to be crossed. even the basic rights aren't very happy with the current proposal. so i'm not sure what that says about the state of negotiations, but i think we'll have to follow this for several months. if not years. can you just help us understand how dangerous this crossing of the atlantic is, the north atlantic compared with others, i guess in the mediterranean, or going from turkey to the greek islands. this just to say north atlantic on a, on a boat like that seems incredibly dangerous. journey yes and it, i mean, on one hand, there's an obvious risk of a trip going to waters that leah lasts at least 3 days, but after $210.00 or 12, the conditions on board in this trips are again humane. a humane and constitute a high risk to people's health and life. on the one hand that the weakness of the boat itself. but it means
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a great risk of sinking and drown him. but on the other hand, people are not having again access to drinkable water. the air in all those there is therefore there's a high risk of the high of a 100 taishan. you have to add to that the fact that the people are exposed to direct sunlight for the whole journey and that it can last up to 12 days. again, they don't half as sufficient food, so there's a risk of my nutrition. and we also would like to point that that the fact that people can even develop certain diseases during the journey. as a consequence, on the one hand of that of the overcrowding of the boat, people cannot both in a very tight knit space for a long term, and therefore they can develop ulcers or other sort of of worms. but on the other hand, also that they sanitary conditions on board are basically in existence. people cannot relieve themselves for days and this also places at risk their, their, their,
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their health. and then they have their general health condition worsens at the very end of the, of the your if they reach for my mother the seems to have been a suggestion that the spanish government is hoping that arrivals will subsidize over the winter months, subside up, make it public over the winter months because of the change in the weather from where you are does not seem likely or do you see the flow continuing? but i think a lot of are concerned those with a continual, simply because i need it's high time for me. there's a small need for me to monitor. well, the art of the husband, undertaken by you the subconscious. since 2015 you've developed a sudden it's because it doesn't have to have been taken to my mind on the do with it because this is the responses. keep coming in the needs of the young people, person for taking time to do this into account to do some tax policy. if they
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didn't have that have been among the lot of the a little over, let's say 8800 medium. you go to stuff the flows. if that money was dedicated to throw more to prepare for the young people, i think do we should have today's leave, the situation. but number 2, can i ask, you then monitor can ask you how do you persuade the europeans to change that view because of the problem. they see migration as a problem rather than as a benefit perhaps at the moment because of the this is every day i really are trying to sensitize abducted them. and we used to redraw the television, all the maids to let people who those people know that it is good to, to save the world. but i think this is not something that is such a step. i think to my mind, i think our government uses going to the woman to sit together as a 7 time table and see how the general policy and how to move to call podium and
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economies. and in the, in the, in the, in the 1st of that, this is a new system because it's not one was with us have to have talks with ups. since there are many, much too much women who doesn't use to subsidize the sense of those young people, but we see that things are getting worse. so it's also time for mean that governments from concept and use of get together with together and subsidies. how do you new policies through to through to since the film was in the schools subject of bettas that it's been good. so if you have just time for one, very quick response to what mama do says it's not what you hear coming from the other side. of your frustration or the policies in europe that are trying to just create this fortress rather than encourage because i mean on the other side i'm migration i. it's difficult to answer. i think indeed there is
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a focus on ash i think the new level. i think there's mixed public reaction to this policy. of course, there is a large person for population that strongly welcomes migration on them understands the importance of half for european economies. i think in the context of coping one team there for so been an important narrative shift in which we've realised the importance of migrant workers. we've realised the importance of regular a station message for people that are not in a regular situation may not have access to health care to employment when you know certain safeguards. so i think there has been some movement in that direction. one of the problems though, isn't it a lack of political well as the institutional level and a lot of divisions between member states but some having a former hostile view of migration management, not as the priority for the commission. indeed, as increasing returns, keeping rival arrivals low and being seen to achieve some progress achieved. some are from the table because there's a broad perception that the current system isn't working. that's not entirely true . there is your legislation in place, it's just not always implemented correctly. so it's a mixed picture,
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i would say thank you very much for your time. we are out of time unfortunately, but thanks to all our guests to mamadou mang, to publicly glaziers and livia sumburgh diaz and thank you too for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al-jazeera dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page, facebook dot com, forward slash a.j. inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are a.j. inside story, from a bernard smith and the entire team here in doha, by covert . 19 is indiscriminate, but it quickly found the racial divisions in american society. the covert pandemic is a rufio lurk of america's true blood in the racially segregated city of chicago. the majority of deaths have been black and latino residents fault lines asks why i
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