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this has implications for the rest of the world. we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on al-jazeera by anthony ok. welcome to the stream, the home edition on today's episode. lucky to be looking at the conflict in the regional part of i want to remind you how this conflict got started. have a look at just over 2 weeks ago, ethiopian central government launched a military offensive against a local warring party prime minister, abby ahmed, accuse that party the tea p.l.f. of attacking a military base. the t.p.m. left dominated ethiopian politics for decades until abbey came to power in 2018 when the party in 1900 been persecuting them,

and purging them from government and the military. the conflict incented on the ticker, a region which the t.p.m. governs. according to the united nations, hundreds of people have been killed and thousands of refugees have fled into sudan . assume much to talk about today. we have a humanitarian disaster, the t p l f. and the roots that if you go to peace, if you're watching on you tube and you want to be part of this conversation, jump into the comments section to my 3. best get your comments into today. let me bring in today's guess i will say hello to them and they will introduce themselves to you. welcome back to the street. well, remind, remind everybody who you are and what you do. think you're fine with. i mean, i'm from washington for a second, right? it's good to have you back in the stream as well. please remind everybody you are

and what it is. it's nice to see you again. if i meet someone is a kind of salon and i'm a freelance journalist and i write primarily for its mail and guardian and the telegraph. i miss a bet edition sell to our global audience. thank you very for having me. my name is, miss m. but i said, i teach art school through some professor and i write on politics and thank you. it's good to have you hate gentlemen. you so welcome. today i spoke to, belaying c.e.o. she's the press secretary for prime minister of the meds and we in our conversation, we're talking about some very key issues about what is happening right now, including when a peace process might start. this is what she told me. the prime minister and the federal government made a decision to make this operation, this rule of law enforcement operation, the degree region there were 3,

actives and one of the critical objectives at this point is to disarm the g.p.l. . if they have been in possession of weaponry, and there has been efforts by the n.d.s. to disarm them or radio to the position and to make targeted military strikes on where the you are not of the arsenals. so this is a priority right now, and also part of the prior increased also bringing these perpetrators to justice. so once that is that the p. and ones that are in government command, then the negotiations and the other on recessions could happen because there has been a beary track record on the part of the prime minister to dialogue with the t.p.n. death. and it is not as the international media or the national community is making it out, which we have to be very careful about. that narrative is that there has been a continuous transgression of the part of the champion of to overwrite or not to send to any of the m.p. of that have been made by the federal government and personally by the, by the prime minister's wife decries

a couple of things jumped out at me from that conversation. one was rogue elements, the other one's been perpetrating justice. and then the 3rd who's putting the blame for the conflict very firmly at the door of these rogue elements of the t.p.m. that what stood out for you. world whether they are a rogue elements or not and i'm not, i don't see there, there being any space for the dialogue that she says will follow the end of the conflict. considering that the to be alive has been completely outlawed as an organization. all of its members face arrest simply for being affiliated with the organization. so whether it's the rogue elements or whatever remaining elements there might be. it is very clear that there won't be any space for dialogue. there won't be any space for any roundtable talks for things like what might the future of to growing be what will its place in egypt in society be after

this power then how will the various political entities rehabilitate the $30000.00 or so europeans from to graduate fled into neighboring sudan, there is, there is, a lot of that remains to be discussed. wasn't addressed in her one or 2 minute briefing that she is 11 years old had to me had to we had a much longer conversation by feel at the moment. this idea about when peace may actually go, since it was very important. and which is why i wanted to set up in particular with you, mrs. betty the idea of there being friction between the government and the regional government. and if the t.p.m. left, this is going on for such a long time. why are we now in a conflict? well, there are many reasons i think, why the conflict. it was obviously as you know, the e.p.

out of dave, which for them and repented was so hard to cross. and which that g.p.l., if was it, part of it would be to appeal for 2 years. it was a very brutal dictatorship that and it had very serious human, massive human rights violations that have made very serious corruptions out in my sleep scale. so as you know, but before 2018, there were many protests in many regions of ethiopia for demanding for political change in the country that happened only a sleazy e.p.i. to deify had lost any, you know, ideology, kind of out of its great state and coming into part of that in 2018, was exact to create a kind of a new kind of put excited dispensation in the country trying to sort of some of the, deep seated problems in the country. so owned quietens that for them as a p.r., it gave continued new prosperity parties at mr. abbey,

i met formit and typically every 3 to temecula. so it's significant that in difference in terms of how they want to resource deposits, cutlets in the country, that's what it's tactical, basically sort it to people. if it was not ready, it's very tragic. i mean, for more than 40 years of political support, it's very existence in this country. it hasn't never tried to reorient itself to change and kind of political change, which the country needed actually, urgently sort, little and on any idea, put ideological change. if you see even that person, the people that, that leaves his party for 40 years, they have to stay. so it's really breaks my heart because for anyone or observing that what if you could change in the country in egypt was already for the lines. the country in the country, you know, change was needed. and damn, it was all this important as a country. our strength in july,

you don't change by. i hear anything buoyancy, says listening to you as well. this comes from him. how does it add? has all new chief, thank you for being part of this conversation. nelson ethiopians with us today, of course, is the now achieved that is t.p. l f. is the aggressor in this conflict, correct? does the t, p l f. have any genuine grievances aluna you pick up without one place. ok, well, in fact, the provocation was made by the federal government for the last 2 years. it has joked that i wrote this to connect originalist as a rest of the country was broke for 3 years. and there was disagreement between to be a list of the if this will bring the party and forming

a coalition and new coalition party. so that means if i don't say that they believe us and the country we are witnessing now, i don't even agree with what precisely 30 off the us tried to claim calling this conflict. law enforcement operation is a joke for me. what is transpiring on the ground right now as we speak is actually a civil war, a civil war expanding to a regional conflict that in what was the syrian government? now we have the us, the album out of being a villages into guy using dross. so we can, you cannot say like this, this is just a law enforcement operation that has transpired for the last 2 weeks,

almost now on the 3rd week. so there is, you know, distortion of facts. what we are always missing right now is kind of nixon's easy to answer. not a little doubt. i don't know if i may. i'm going to bring in another voice because another voice from outside of ethiopia, the aspirins is very vocal in this conversation. it's very hard for us to get forces from, with in ethiopia, because of things on going come out, signed what's not split the piñon secret, and this is what she told us about what is happening right now in her country. the war that's been waged against the people have to go is having a devastating effect. people are fleeing their homes in the thousands to the sudan because they're being indiscriminately bombed because they've lost access to basic needs. what we're seeing here is an impending genocide. we need to all speak up, we need to use our voices,

our platforms to speak up against war because no one is going to benefit. so could i assume the journalists point of view, which you really sick of the media? they're looking at a genocide. is this civil war? is this war? how would you define the ends? well i think over the past 2 weeks there have been a number of claims and counterclaims us to exactly what has transpired in ethiopia . what was the instigating cause for the military clashes? broke out on november 4th first thing for us there are no internet or phone services to the entire region. so there is absolutely no way to independently corroborate the claims that are left, for instance, just made. and what we can say is this is that for war it takes 2 sides to tango. and the grain in general, government forces of the guards of made no efforts to cool things down. or we have,

we have one of the insides more than 50 or in size until imprisoned. and you know, this a lot, i don't guilty of exacerbating the tension of what evolution is and when it is of lead to war, it only requires that it required both sides. the objectivity and there are some rising stands. so uncompromising stances are one of the great sides of the mission between the not regional government and the great and the federal government in addis ababa. so hopefully with the restore ation of internet services. over the course of the next few weeks, maybe months, a journalist will have a better chance that determining what led to what? and obviously the breakout of the horrific a military conflict and the and sowing humanitarian disaster movies. but i'm up to 99. terry and i mean there's a point to, there is, i know i am clearly just going to gunpoint and i'm going to go yonder in atlanta man because i know what is i don't want dollars and 1500 hours to get it. and if he

has more than 51000 in prison right now, as we speak in our days, how are you going to justify this one? as i think i will, is that the record? not that i'm sure if i do you think, i'm sorry, i don't know what it really you know? surely i don't know if we have interviews where i was enduring or not. you really can't or isn't much of a subtle jemini. you can also feel that you're all talking at the same time to school time out, or write a new finish, just a sentence. ok, ok, we have this concrete evidence from the international community and international media. more as a society, 1000 civilians have fled their country and crossed the border to sudan. there are suffering from humanitarian crisis right now as we speak right soon. i seen that save lives and i don't, i don't, i'm going to corroborate that with what i have here on my laptop that i can share with him. since he's the head of the u.n. . that's the un's refugee agency, more than $25000.00 refugees. and while frankly,

the tikrit region of ethiopia to sudan, messam that this speaks to the issue with military action and the impact that has on civilians tool to us about exactly how per pan, but it's the federal government to take care of civilians. well then, doing this hacking where they're looking for perpetrators and bringing them to justice in their words. yeah, it's very tragic. i mean we should not be very objective of what's happening and when there are bad things, obviously we should be very sympathetic to the state. and i don't think we should always to excites, you know, one in this kind of conflicts. so it's really breaks my heart to see more than 20000, people out of, you know, refugees now currently going to sudan, mostly to grandstand or so some had us as well because the border area. i don't know how the boys ethnic groups living got around here sort of,

it's very tragic and the condition integrate is very tragic because this particularly, you know, is it, you know, it's complex for many years. i myself, my family leave in 2000 part of the great my family thought was if you lived time, part of my family fought for many years with you, but it's good for many years. so we feel very sympathetic again. and of course, the government should trade as much as it's come to provide humanitarian support and provide humanitarian access. but nevertheless, i think we should not over search also claims of genocide claims so that it can sink. i mean, i don't know what could be responsible. what if that's what it's our position? i'm not, no, that's no, no, no, please, please. i do not. you know, we're not going to, this is not going to do that. seattle is it, people have to go. i'm still here. 'd it's not only you got your hands on president abbas to the young to care about the people of the grass agenda has to see that they don't have the same clout as he has. i'm receiving and they're not going to. i'm going to raise, i don't know that you know, you know, my life is we could at the end when i am cannot. thank you for

a moment. the way you see it, because we're going to let you come into this conversation as well. marise marise, make, make a point, you know, you did not finish your plate in the beginning as you watched in there finish, you know, finish your sentence. you know, my point too is that i learned how to yeah, i'm just saying, talking about ethnic cleansing, genocide is absolutely out of the picture. this is very dangerous that you needed. and how do i, you know, that even though you were trying to get out of the conflict, i did that. i don't believe the way said, but yeah, you know, like you just bring him, are slim, bring him us. we could mississippi a conversation with our audience as well. mara says, do you think the marginalization of the tea, great people, parenthesis, which i don't agree ever happened, and not justification for attacking the military front, stationed in the region and stealing military weapons.

how are you going to just defy the killings by the army in the thousands area of the country saying, well i for example, 75 civilians, innocent have been killed by the military thing one day. and how are you going to just fight just before today's 7, or was it me or i must have been killed by the military in the, in the area of the leg up in a district called i feel how are you going to justify this? is it because the army was attacked in initiative and he said he was once said, are you there inside your nation is letting syrian government you say, come on here is a it will have to be objective. you know, you had a field trip, you know, i don't know what you can handle. i don't know. you don't get a lot. you don't have to answer. yeah, i have my, i'm always going to look at him. i can guarantee you. i know you're just really hot, but just my family, you don't even look, we don't know what we have. i don't know what it is and is not moaning. you can also want to know, please, what we hear is that you come through very distinct points. we hear that i don't

hear every word you're saying, but we hear that your very many disagree with each other. let me push, but we kind of give you a starting point. you know, what perhaps should i not cemetery? so yeah, our gentlemen young enough that i have needs in this show, i do not want to waste move. ok. it's concerned about how we get to peace. i walk my it happened if you 2 are war inc, this in conversation and there's a regional war going on in ethiopia. what is going to look like by the end of it? his 1000000, somethings. we are 5th through that part of that is more or it's all going to come for one of the greatest part of the body survive me. that it's likely it's going to be for some time eudora gone for a longer period. i fear that there will be

a massive humanitarian crisis. a mighty good economy, with whom do you market or the country really vendor for your guy who does internet? if they're going to, how survive this conflict? i don't think i don't see the gravity and i was a variation of this. secor i asked the vet isn't a concern. so when i spoke to prime minister sufis was, was not even on their radar. was like, that's never going to happen if you will stay together from the sources that you're going to the picking up. what are they saying about the future at this point of your country? well, i mean, i guess that's the crux of the problem, isn't it? it's not even on their radar. i think we need to come to grips with the fact that this war will definitely have a dual sitting impact on the social fabric of the country. i mean,

we're hearing reports of atrocities, mass killings in town from refugees who are landing in sudan. meanwhile, in the capital city, only days ago, you're seeing parades and near celebrations, calls for outright support of the military, despite the relative impunity with which they are conducting their operations. there is the sympathy that referred to that's of all the other words, you need to realize that there are communities suffering there entire population of suffering there. there in there are, there will be, there will not be any winners in this war. there will be a lot of losers and there will be a lot of heavily impact populations have shown a concentrated effort to try to sort of relieve them of their agony. not even in terms, not even in, not even indexed in words, not even. there has been and there hasn't been any open express of solidarity cause

for restraint from our own armed forces. and this is a guess shows how the viewpoint of under different communities can trust a great leader. and i think the concerns are expressed are and are, are based on, i mean there's, there's a way to these claims, i would say, so really go to my laptop here, gentlemen, because i want to show you some of the international concern that i'm seeing right now. since this is the u.n. aid, high commissioner for human rights concern here about there should be a ceasefire. this is prism 70 of uganda. it is an ethiopian. if we don't come to some kind of peace agreement, the entire continent of africa, it have a bad image. that tweet was deleted. and then this is from the african union. but i believe even when you delete a tweet, you probably still mean this is when the african union in africa need in our asking

for the immediate cessation of hostilities. and then from the prime minister's own account meeting here, with officials in rwanda singing about peace and security. so international forces that are involved are concerned. i'm going to ask you briefly maisonette. what difference does that make to a peace process? it doesn't make it here is a difference, i think obviously with if this war drags on for a longer time, obviously the international pressure for a peaceful settlement would, you would be much more greater because obviously the humanitarian situation in the ground would be also catastrophic. saw it all depends on how manageable this conflict would be if the federal government, as we hear it, if the advice and if they try to neutralize the situation much earlier, then the distortion would be much to cover. but obviously the concern of the

international community is very understandable because if you're tragic for many reasons, it's a cancer for more than 110000000 people, people security wise, it has significant ramifications for the entire region. so these concepts are very understood and but of it, the problem is, and i know you talk people talk about peace. but the problem is people, it has only a bad name and i'm sorry to say this because so many better ones. i'm not living there and i thought i'd ask you very few lays out until i know your family safe. we're right at the end of the show. and gentlemen, if you would allow me to wrap it up, but i'm going to do that with a voice from the t. gray community here. feel that their concerns are not being that. have a listen to tekla calling from these to express my support to the to go people and government who are at war against

a dictator who has been destroying bombs on them. killing, according to reports of hundreds of people and subjecting people in the thousands to flee to neighboring countries, likes to call on the international community to step in and of heard a crisis if left unchecked, could send the whole new puppet got into darkness. i'm going to give the last voice to after a vibrant community on this conversation, not goes to liz rainey. she says it's while to think that abby achmet just won the nobel peace prize in $29.00 t. and was in the year we're discussing intense conflict in ethiopia. gentlemen, i'm going to rest areas. it's a pleasure being very serious conversation. that's very and i think thank you very much on vibrant conversation. it is not over yet. i am taking new audience to

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