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and some of the things it does to clue phillips, exposed the little known sentry long tussle between the b.b.c. in the u.k. government and considers the current threats to its future. if the government has, it in for the b.b.c.,, what you do see the enemies on the move, those battle for the b.b.c., a listening post special on al-jazeera a decade of war. now a pandemic, covered 19 is spreading fast and syria's last rebel held province, particularly among displaced people in overcrowded camps. so can health workers prevent another humanitarian disaster? this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program. much of the world is battling to contain the
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coronavirus pandemic. it's even more challenging in syria. years of war have destroyed the health system. the few hospitals left operating are struggling to cope with the rising number of infections and in the last rebel held province of idlib social, distancing a frequent hand washing are nearly impossible for displaced people and overcrowded camps. victoria gate and be reports it province has been battered by the syrian conflict and now in its 10th year, the last rebel controlled glave in the northwest is home to nearly 4000000. people most depend on aid to survive and many live in makeshift shelters in camps for the displaced it live reported its 1st coronavirus infection in july. since then, the number of people infected has increased rapidly. this on my last 5 to 10 years of dealing with bombing casualties and the targeting of health facilities. the coronavirus pandemic has really increased the burden on us if cases of cover 19 continue to increase. the health sector will completely collapse.
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it has 8 hospitals that can treat 1000 patients, but the u.n. says 7 are already overwhelmed and each one is desperately short of the quick meant . there are $142.00 i.c.u. beds and $155.00 ventilators, to cover the entire region. the name of the beds in the intensive care unit are completely full. we have around 30 pads, all of which are occupied with patients upstairs. we have another department with 30 beds and we have 30 patients in that department to. 6 6 the outbreak has mostly affected city safe, but the fear is the virus could spread to overcrowded camps where social distancing is difficult to be reconsidered. the situation is very worrying, admit, only been 100 percent true, that we have, we are in 90 percent of better company theory. it is very, very hard to be doing because you know, they have
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a system to increase the number of but they don't really know for the patients and critical patients is a very, very reduced. so we are really worried about this negotiation in the, in the great of ours, pandemic has severely tested the world's best health care services. syria is destroyed by years of war is facing. biggest challenge yet, victory caisson. be out there. all right, let's bring in our guests from it live in syria. is dr. sanity the a cardiologist at a hospital that's supported by islamic relief from my money in jordan. i'm judge director of advocacy for save the children syria response and from norman oklahoma . is joshua landis, director of the center for middle east studies at the university of oklahoma and editor of the syria comment blog. thank you all for joining us in sand. let me start with you today. why is there such a sharp rise in the number of covert 1000 cases in liberate?
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now, intent, the number of cases is not the true number. the number of these much more cases because of all patients who are hurting from visiting drugs and suspected the 19 do yes and many in fact there are, there are homes. and on to that hospital he goes, some are afraid of going to the current users. you heard a sound, they're talking about the fact that there is concern that the number of cases right now is, does not accurately reflect the number of people that are infected. what are the steps that are being taken to limit the spread of coven 1011? in other parts of northern syria. thank you so much for this one. so we, we have another human agencies are trying very hard to try and limit the spread of covert starting from implementing some of the w.h.o.
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measures in schools and hospitals in even now own programming. so for example, where we do a new addition work, we traditionally would have 10 people in the same room as said, we cut down on that to make sure that, that there is enough safe distancing for pro people. essentially, senator lee in education we've, we've closed a lot of the face to face education and activities and decide to substitute, seen some of the more creative, well more innovative ideas. but sadly, the situation remains very of a difficult for families. we are. as of today, the best number we have is that is that east 1150 different settlements or sites where people live in tents and camps. and they cannot possibly have the big cities to satisfy sedation. they need them in the hygiene and they need to maintain and have some of some of the appropriate measures that they need to take to prevent the state of the virus. so we don't mean in
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a place where the high needs high levels off of contact between people. and even if you block all the different sepsis people who still need to continue to live to eat true to wet. and it's sadly a very, very different situation for the families right now. and city joshua, despite the truce in there, is still intermittent fighting on the ground. there is there, i mean, how fragile exactly is the situation right now? the situation is pretty fragile. turkey has put in many more reinforcements, but the syrian regime is eager to continue to put pressure on its lid. and if it's determined to take back the entire province, eventually russia seems to be backing this syrian, the syrian desire. although it's interested in keeping the truce, but as we've seen, turkey has pushed ahead in libya and are going to karbala. and this is upset in
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russia. russia is using into libya as the pressure point for turkey because it's turkey's vulnerable. it's a vulnerable position for turkey. yes. and when it comes to the spread of covert 19, what are the hardest hit areas and they are the hardest hit areas, the cities or are the hardest hit areas. the camps for the displaced people. the more you think the team is certainly right now, all the artist in, oh it's our city is and hands i thing you mentioned that the house a solution also how it will isn't selves meet with elites. 'd why didn't we other members of the crowd? yes, we know the situation or any may situation,
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can't you now this to ation. he's nearly under control back. that's not under control. then the situation now is nearly blew the number of cases more men. and now the. 'd number of deaths, the number of all right, 3 agents will be can of what is it now? john? i want to try to just take a step back for our viewers. and have you explain just how traumatic things are for the children in bend? in northern syria, i mean, you have of course, the trauma that they faced for so many years when it comes to the violence. and now you have this, this dread and this other form of trauma, which is because of the spread of covert 19, how are they handling all of this? how do they cope with it?
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it is sadly as united states, it is a very, very difficult times the children inside of city and particularly northwest city at the moment. and we use that is the law on consent in terms of the news. but with we're hearing today that there has been the cases of that in northwest city among children. and these if confound the fast cases of deaths in among children in northwest city. and it just sammy's all in this situation where they now have to balance how to feed themselves to feed their own children, to check themselves from a virus. and somehow to cover a from years and years of active constant use to look at more than 1500000. people in northwest city hall law still displace the last hundreds if not thousands of them who have no place to live in. so we start seeing children displays signs of trying to cope with all of this, but without any of the forces necessarily available that helps them deal with this . we hear heartbreaking stories from children who either live with say,
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111 head of pills that they've been waiting for. for months, if not longer, and we've met children who've lived in a destroyed car with no parents until we've managed to find them to a to another tenet of solution. and it's, it's a very difficult time for them when they have to balance. i don't have a physical school to go to, i also don't have enough food to eat, and i need to go to school. but at same time i need to feed my sense. or even sometimes, in some cases, even richer than just too young to take in this response of movie, they have to feed themselves and their own families. and you end up in this situation where some, a 12 year old we've been working with in the last few months. i've been working throughout the day, been studying in the, even the. and it's just not a situation you want children law even to do on the 10 find themselves in joshua, if the truce completely collapses, if all out fighting resumes once more,
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how much worse does that make the situation? and would it be possible to see the escalation efforts again? well, you know, as, as your other, as your other speakers have been saying, poverty is the real poverty and chaos. the lack of political organization are the real killers here. and we've just heard this morning that naipaul is cutting, cutting back on on its efforts to limit covert it's going to cut isolation centers . it's cutting all kinds of vaccination. i'm not vaccination is cutting the testing centers because it says it can't afford to do them any more. and it's going to save us money for the vaccine because it can't afford to to buy the vaccine and to distributed amongst people. so that's happened in uganda, nepal and many other poor countries. if you take something like like syria and italy, provinces, where there is really no centralized health care where there is chaos. and there is this threat of continued warfare. it's out of control. and there's really very
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little that central authorities can do. people are living cheek by jowl in the same confined spaces. once one family member gets that they can isolate it from anybody else. and that's, that's the real terrible problem is, is that desperate poverty and war only makes it worse. what kind of pressure is being put on the health sector there right now? how close to collapse is the health sector. and that we know that in the area, the war zone and our meet our situation. in fact, this tractor still leak and the displaces the large amount of displacement. people in a 1000000 illegal are going out in an ellipse. there aren't any center,
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it's just they have one primary care since our and these may then they should go or 3000 or 3000. regional leaders in hospital may see them suffer and don't supply the goods health care for. and then also the ones in centers where people's ice, you act, they are just a little bit can provide the full we probably 90 in all is going 90 the formal myself. i since might need more still in hospital about unfortunately not an empty bed for him. and he said to the next, he was not nervous. i think, you know, you're writing fiction was so much severe is situations here are 80 his son did his best to be the embattled
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syrian and that's all he can do. unfortunately was that the situation at the station is not cases. so he doesn't say that he is not going to be 6 or 8 months and $98.00 i'm did, i want to also take another step back and look at the conditions in, in the informal settlements in, i mean, the world right now continues to tell populations to social distance when you're talking about the displaced when you're talking about refugees in overcrowded settlements, that is something that's nearly impossible to do. how are children? how are their parents protected against this virus at a time when they live in conditions so dire that something as simple as social distancing is pretty much impossible for them? and this is specifically the problem is right now. we just saw it last week. being
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flooded, people have to take everything they will get somewhere and try to find a new place to live. in the meantime, they have to escape and expose of weapons. we just released that, that vote this week that says, believe it or not only on stevia, 25 children and date are dying from explosive weapons for the last few years. and city a is, is one of the major major countries in which children are being killed by explosive weapons. so you the child in it, in northwest city of bail in that you have to escape for your life. some from can supply to him. you have to find a place to live, the un, your family with, but he lives in comic resources. there's nowhere. we all know how they can amaze, looking like now a city as a people don't have enough food. and then they find a tentative that gets eventually gets flooded and at the same time they're trying to sort of distance. it does well most impossible to deal with all of that at the
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same time. we see in the countries where the situation is more statement, there are still struggling to deal with call of insanities them sense of don't know . and so we have to deal with it entirely. and then you put a tide, them in that has been under, under bombardment for years, has been displaced, maybe 10 times the last 2 or 3 years. that campus been spotted and they have no, they civil to him and they have to outwait him. i'm more scared of the virus or a mime will scatter the need for me and i need to escape. and this come, so it becomes, it's an impossible that families have to deal with and, and they just simply try to get the best out of it. that they come, joshua where do things stand right now when it comes to the opposition and their fighters in adelaide at the moment. the opposition is in terrible disarray. and we've, we've seen constant fighting between the various factions. turkey is trying to organize them and bring them under control. but
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a lot of the fighters don't want to fall under turkish control and we've seen al qaida and other branches had acid being breakaway from the main group highest ahead of him. we've seen other, other fighting groups split and fight amongst each other as they, as they begin to decide, are they going to work for the turks? are they going to try to remain independent and, and not work with the turks. but increasingly, the area is desperate and people have to fall in line with the turks. but as they do that, they get accused of being you know, proxies for another government. and they, the revolutionary objectives are increasingly falling away. is personal protective equipment available to the population in libya? i mean, do people there have access to masks and hand sanitizer and other supplies and
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there are always you go and it's not windy at a global all in the us of the city thunder. it bears an object if it was meant for it. instead there are, for example, i spoke to my friends in the army as it is very hostile, there is 1000 center in their lives. it is, and it's an activist and there are unfortunately the there's another day, the sun, the earth for the people we will gain by mark, just mark the stars and the sure for it. but you want most people to buy the mask for. they want to eat most people here are even angry, but are lying back go and bite marks is not, it's not scam been going to be embarrassed this joshua,
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it looked to me as though you were nodding along to some of what your son was saying. did you want to add to the point he was making? well, the point he is making, which is that the situation is, is there's really very little that can be done to stem the spread of coronavirus. and, you know, i think my son just had coronavirus here, but we were able not to become affected. in fact, as a family because he had his own room and he could, we've managed to find a bathroom for him to go to and we delivered the food to his door and for for over 2 weeks. that's the way you lived. but if you're living 10 people to a small shelter, there's no way you can do that. the infection is just going to run rampant through the entire place. and that's, you know, that's the desperation. it's the poverty that, that stops any of these mitigating efforts to be carried out that can, that can stall the spread. and as a cold weather comes in, we are seeing the spread really pick up. and it's only in places like we just heard
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that france has turned the corner a teeny bit on this spread and other european countries. but in places like the united states, it's continuing to go up day by day. we're breaking records every single day. and that's because the cold weather is coming in, and people are getting exhausted with trying to fight this virus. so really, the hope is for this vaccine to come down, but how will a place like it live, get the vaccine when there's no money and all the rest, the rich countries are fighting for it. joshua 1st of all, i hope your son is doing better. let me also ask you about a glad to hear that about a point you were making when it comes to the international community. do you feel that they are stepping up at all when it comes to the syrian people or have they just abandoned them? you know, increasingly, unfortunately, the syrian people are being forgotten and you know, we're hearing the united states is trying to shift to asia. it's there's debate
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about where our policy should be in syria. and i think this is, this is true for the entire european community. we've just seen a focus on lebanon, lebanon has much stronger and better relations with the european community. and, and there's division, the jordanians need help. the lebanese need help. turkey is just putting in new, new actions to stop the spread of code. so syria increasingly is being forgotten once isis has the spread of isis has been tamped down. increasingly, it's unclear what the country, what europe and united states and the rest of the, the western world's policy is towards syria. i want to talk about just how difficult it is getting aid into northwestern syria and not just now. i mean, even before this pandemic, it was extremely difficult. could you,
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could you talk our viewers through the logistics of trying to get such much needed supplies to such a desperate population as your i.q. pointed, it has always been difficult and it has gotten virtually hot that since july of this year, when the cross-court it is lucian to move to one of 2 border crossings that we could have used the falls live in humanitarian aid. now we're looking at supplies that could come from anywhere from the west, but they need to go or only through one border crossing that's we are allowed to use. so the u.n. security council resolution, if you look at today to deliver aid into areas in live for example, study into a leper, for example, that a bit fat east within northwest. you could need to drive for more than 20 hours just to get basic supplies in because the political scene that was closer to that has been removed. and this is an issue we see right now in city across as the international attention on city is decreasing. so is the funding and so is the
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political tension. so then the discussions around humanitarian needs become entirely more politicized, where it's decisions are no longer being made based on what people need. but rather based on the politics of the different states that are involved in syria, we currently have startling to be teachers satins, when you need them the most, for example, for us to be able to reach children nowadays, we need, we send teachers what we want to mobilize teachers, we, instead of having the children come to the school and because of the impossibility of such an distancing that we started sending teachers duncan's homes to help them, at least not lose some of the gains they've made in the education. but then use baby teachers saturday because you are particularly underfunded. we just have a couple of minutes left. let me just ask you to expand on a point that you were making before how risky is it right now for health care workers. and they are they becoming infected at high rates as well with cover 1000
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you know, there are patients. well these are there and they are the more. 'd people are, these are artists that 11, they don't have that is under you know, me or a loser and you know me, doors and nurses and you've been, were killed while these actions, for example, in days ago, doctors are, as it was, there is some to be going right, he doesn't, it's not that he goes the sounds of the day and the next day he was dead. so many horrible leaser effectors many
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miles into her, the rays that just a few have severe sentence. and the, you know, nerves flare, unfortunately by east action. i'm sorry, i sound we've actually just run out of times we're going to have to leave the conversation there. but thanks so much to all of our guests for joining us today. dr. sanity the m j. d. i mean, and joshua landis, and thank you 2 for watching. you can see the program again. any time i visiting our web site at 0 dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a.j. inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are at, at a.j. inside story for me. and the whole team here in doha, i find out latest news for joe biden. and campbell harris. the path ahead is as steep and as difficult as guinea, the incoming administration in u.s.
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