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central sixes mission will last 5 years, a messenger in outer space bearing a message to humanity that it must change its ways. robert oulds al-jazeera watching al-jazeera with me. so robin a reminder of our top news stories multiple rocket attacks in several parts of the afghan capital have killed at least 8 people. one rocket landed near a school in kabul, forcing students to run from the building. eisel has claimed responsibility stephanie decker, as well as told that between the government and the taliban. starting september, they pretty much bet on the whole, the army that started down the road to the difficult issues. they're still dealing with technicalities and sticking points about what legal structure should govern the troops and services. it just happened because these are 2 sides that have no
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trust. so i think certainly the message from my pay was of course, the outgoing secretary of state is to try and get these sides to, to get the technicalities out of the way and start negotiating on the really difficult point. the resurgence of covert 19 has many countries tightening restrictions. canada's largest city toronto is going back into lockdown. the pandemic suspected to be the main topic of discussion at the g 20 summit, which saudi arabia is hosting. and then i, and i mean, this is been an extraordinary year. the cove in 1000 pandemic has been an unprecedented shock that affected the entire world within a short period of time, causing global economic and social issues. our people in economies are still suffering from the shock. however, we will do our best to overcome this crisis through international cooperation. the united nations says a full scale humanitarian crisis continues to unfold in northern ethiopia. the un
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has called on warring sides to halt fighting. so more aid can be delivered and refugee safe zones can be set up the government on the 2 great people's liberation front, both accuse each other of killing civilians in airstrikes and indiscriminate attacks during the 2 week long offensive. the italian government has issued a final warning to egypt to cooperate in the investigation into the murder of the italian research or italian newspaper. last republican says, prime minister just happy condi told present of the fact that sisi, that the egyptian agents involved in the crime must cooperate with the italian judicial system. it comes nearly 5 years after giuliana genies body was found with signs of torture in the desert outside of cairo. of course you can follow those stories on our website at al-jazeera dot com. more news in half an hour with the news up next on al-jazeera is the bottom line. do stay with us. the b.b.c.'s journalism is revered around the world, but its close relationship with the british state has always placed limits on its independence. i love the fun of it exists. and so things have dozed. clue phillips,
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exposed the little known sentry long tussle between the b.b.c. in the u.k. government and considers the current threats to his future if the government has it in to the b.b.c. . what b.b.c. the enemy is. movers battle for the b.b.c. . a listening post special on al-jazeera. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. the democrats won the white house. but are they going to be torn apart between their progressives and their centrists? let's get to the bottom line. when the american people spoke on election day, they sent a mixed message. in many places they voted against donald trump. but then they voted for other republican politicians in their district and in their state. the democrats went into this election thinking they were going to pick up an easy 15 more seats in the house of representatives, but they wound up losing 7 seats to the republican party. they're going to keep their majority, but this is going to lead to many more votes that are what i call squeakers are
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just getting by. on last week's show we focused on some of the lessons that republicans might be learning from this election. and this week we're going to talk to a leading democratic senator to see what kind of soul searching his party is doing these days. he has senator joe manchin who represents the state of west virginia where he previously served as governor. and he's the only democrat still standing elected to a federal position from his state. let me just put it to you. which agenda one did the agenda of wiping out student loans of health care for everyone. did that progressive agenda win or did a more cautious deal making centrist agenda agenda when the selection i'm not sure anybody wants from that standpoint because there's nothing overwhelming lace supported by either side. we were so right down the middle more stills that i can only speak of west virginia and tell you how west virginians feel basically on
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all the opportunities that, that they're given, their very appreciative and the time the government is involved. that gives them an opportunity whether it be health care and and job said there's always one very welcome. but when the scare tactics, you scare the bejesus out of them by making them believe that there's going to be some type of an energy shift that will take jobs away. not even give them recognition for what they've done. an opportunity to continue to live a much to do that scares them and then they get mad if they do those like anyone else, if you lose your opportunity provided for your family and yourself, that's very scary. so with all of that, it's a tremendous challenge that we have right now. i still remember the belief. there's more the divide, the more the unites us than divides us as a country. we're still the united states. we might be a little fragment of the right now, but we always come back and, and i think we'll come together, but i heard your i,
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and you were talking just briefly there about where we stand as a country and a basically as a different direction. we're going to go because the house didn't win seats and lost seats still had a majority, but a slim majority. the senate didn't get the majority, which it thought it would get. and we're not sure if we will get it or not, because we're still waiting on the results of 2 elections in georgia in january. but no matter what happens, we are much closer in the numbers that make it harder for any one side. to have the french's from control, which the hard left or the hard right has very little control over very narrow margin in either house or the senate. so i think it gives us a tremendous opportunity and come to the realization that we have to work together see versus just fighting for our respective sides. because there's no comfort there . there's nobody. if,
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if the senate becomes 52 to 48 or becomes 5050. if the house has to rely on not losing some of their moderate democrats to stay in control, then that will bring them back to the middle. and the moderate middle is where we run our lives, where we run our, our businesses, and what we run our country from. and we've got to get back to that. so maybe it's a blessing in the skies. i'm not sure yet. well, let me ask you, you know, i mentioned senator that you were now at for in terms of those that are elected to federal office. the last democrat in west virginia. you also happen to be overwhelmingly popular in west virginia, in a, in a state that's conservative. you stand out and i'm just interested in whether we can derive any lessons from that. as now, president elect biden thinks about reaching out to those 71000000 people who voted for president from well, as i saw the last figure there,
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73000000 and $78000000.00 votes for donald trump, i mean voted for joe biden. so it's a tremendous, overwhelming victory. but there's an awful lot of people that maybe are incensed how many of those will start looking at reality? i've said this before, the bottom line, we need it. we need to cure our, our country of this pandemic. we need to read it with a vaccine and antibodies that work, and until that happens, it'll be hard for us to get back to the normals that we had before. i don't think the new normal will be what the old normal was and what that might be greater opportunities that we have. we have to be prepared right to do that. and i think the, the more the more reliance we have on science and not denying it and give people false hopes it is not going to harm them. and it's just basically a hoax is nothing real. don't worry about it. i think we've seen study that this is serious. this is a killer,
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not just in the united states of america or of our all over the world. and we need to be attacked and much more serious than what we have been. so hopefully will come together on that. and next of all, we need a bipartisan bill. what's the best bipartisan bill you can start with that everybody agrees need to be done. i said this if you have a bad road, a part of all. if you have a bridge is falling down. and trust me, that pothole in bridge and bad road doesn't know if you're democrat or republican, you know, bust your tire, tear your car up. the main danger your life, that's something democrats or republicans can agree on. let's do something that unites. let's do a major bipartisan bill as far as infrastructure, connecting all rural america, the divide between rural and urban is getting deeper and deeper the chasm. it's growing. and with that, we've got to come together. how do you do it? you do it with infrastructure, you do with broadband connectivity row connectivity,
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the same as f d r brought our country together during the greatest depression or is there or not? that's what we need to do. so that's what we're working on, and we're going to try that hopefully with the binding ministration. we're in the most pragmatic way to start repairing and uniting, not only opportunity wise job wise. but truly the emotional generational gap that we have and, and, and making sure that we understand each other that thank you for that part of the trauma of this year has not just been cove it, but it's been the murder of george floyd. it's been the, you know, protests over racial, divides and economic justice issues in the country. do you think there is a program out there that can address some of this, you know, racial justice and economic justice means issues without losing the center and play to that area?
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well i think we all, we've all heard basically that the defund, the bullying, that is the most good is ludicrous and i've ever heard see, why would you be front when you know you have a problem, you would invest more expect better results. that would be why would we do less training the most civilized nations with our police force and, and the continuing education as should, should be coming demanded by every police force to know the social challenges and social changes that are happening in there. and there is a police because it's most of these areas are transforming themselves with all the new influx of population growth and shifts going on. and i think they should be basically experienced in that and educated towards the needs that they have there. but so when they use that, that they scared the bejesus out of a lot of people that we're going to defund the police and we're going to accept the
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looting and rioting. there's not a democrat that i know of, that's in favor of the fight. and if anything, we're in favor of more find the and better targeted funding of how we expect the police to be trying next of all in the areas that have been hit, the hardest. we've got to get in there and basically start building a social gathering. if you will, and on never forget after 911 in the west virginia, you know, we were probably the least not bursting a nation. but when i was governor, we start bringing all the denominations and churches and religious. so we could understand as long as we can understand from our, from our brothers and sisters, whether it be our rabbis, our priest or preachers. we want to know what was going on. we had them all together from the rabbit to the amman, to, to the priest, to, to the pastor we had a ball trying to explain to us the social challenges that we have and how we have better embrace that. so we don't understand it better. that needs to be done more
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now than ever. you know, you might, you talk about defunding, the police, and i just want to read a tweet that you sent out, and that represented how exactly ocasio cortez. and we have, we did with her giving you the devil stare when you were looking at this and it's a defund, the police defun my but i'm a proud west virginia democrat. we're the party of working men and women. we want to protect americans, jobs and health care. we do not have some crazy socialist agenda and we do not believe in defunding the police. she sent that out with her just staring at her no words. so i guess that gets at the point of part of the question of the divide, right, is to get at this question of what's happening with the soul of the democratic party, where that struggle is and what role you're going to play in that. i mean, i remember, i mean, you're kind of, you know, in an interesting vice, i would remind our viewers that when you ran 2 years ago, donald trump jr,
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was going in campaigning against you in that state. and you still won with the trump machine going after you, but now you've got yet don trump jr. on one side, now you've got alexandria across your court as on the other. how does that feel? but 1st of all that was the president himself came in 6 times the president, donald trump, him state 6 times campaigning against me. now afterwards i told him, i said i wasn't running against my opponent. i was running against you, mr. president, because that's what basically you could, and people most reduces. we want our senator, not your senator, mr. president. and it's been tough. it really has been now to have that when you said so of the democratic party. steve, i truly believe this. so has been silent when it has been very, very silent, and sometimes silence is deafening. and that's what i believe is how can, the people such as a o.c., are there aspirational, that's fine. they have some ideas and they want to express that. that is not who we
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are as a democratic party, that i know i can on speak for myself. and the people that i know within the democratic caucus. but by being silent except that you know, we should denounce immediately when i said the from we're not defunding the place we're going to invest more and expect more at point blank. we should've spoke really, really strong. and that wasn't spoke spoken by leadership or whatever reason. they just were kind of silent about that. not knowing how to tiptoe around it and not talking about looting and rioting. abouta brought in the national guard towers. i had the national guard my at my beck and call when i was commander in chief of the west virginia national guard. i don't need the federal government to come in or federal officers to commit. we can take care of it. we're not going to tolerate it, but you prevent that by happening because in areas, you know, you have a hotbeds of dissent or this type of anger and hatred build up. you've got to go in there and bring those people to the table 1st and defuse that before it gets lit. and that's what was done. but again,
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the soul of democratic party denounced looting and rioting. so the republicans picked up a made a believe that the democrats are acceptable to the looting and rioting and tea fire never even heard of anti before. and the black was matter. well as what we saw happen to george floyd. i think it should have shook everybody to their core to watch a person who is of the police and with authority. basically took the life of a human being in front of the whole world to this, to watch, in the most callous. an insincere waiters are a matter of fact, this is what i do every day. it was beyond our imagination that something like that could happen, let alone the confirmation of watching it happen in front of our eyes. so these are the things we speak about. and yes, black lives matter and yes, all lives in that. but when people have been treated and don't you think you've got
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to step up in the fantasy, listen, we're going to tolerate that america. it's not who we are. not how i was raised a. now and i think we need to speak up, have the democrats yet done? has senator schumer has nancy that nancy pelosi sat down and really analyze with those of you who have been complaining about the direction of the party for a while. have you done an assessment of what? right, what regt, what went wrong so far? let me just tell you. i want to give senator schumer all the credit in the world for coming to a realization that we have to be heard. every senator representing every part of this country has to be hurt. those that want and those that those in difficult areas and what they're seeing and what hasn't been said. and for 2 days for 2 days now, every democrat senator has been on his own as we are right now. see. and was able to speak as long as they wanted to and take it also just what they think is wrong. and right now i can tell you that it has been a deep soul searching and understanding that we have to listen. we have to work
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together, but it's different. and, you know, just trying to hold all of this together because it's a real challenge, anybody's. a challenge when you have a tent as big as our camp, with all the different people that we have. they always say from bernie sanders to joe manchin or liz before him to joe manchin. well, the thing of it is i come from a very i think you're very pragmatic. realistic and conservative area, you know, was for jimmy was never given a lot, but the west virginia basically was always hard working and never complained a lot. we did the heavy lifting, we never complained we were happy and we were just expect everyone to pull their own weight. we never wanted people to be slough ers, are slackers that if they were capable of doing something, they should work and provide value. and those who couldn't, you should have the empathy and sympathy of basically, and i think the more responsibility of taking care of those. i think the good lord put been put there for us to see if we would react as human beings. and that's who
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was for doing it is our i've said today, i've talked to west virginians and i said, you know, joe, we believe that the west, the washington democratic national party is more concerned about people who don't work or won't work versus people that do work in will work and that was about it in a nutshell. so we've got to make sure that the people that are working and want to work, that we're the party for them. but also we have the compassion to help those who hit on hard times, but not handouts to where basically it subsidizes them and doesn't give them incentives to go back to work and making sure that we have the resources to take care of those who actually can't because of the challenges they may have physically or mentally. i think we just need to find ourself. you know, i know that you're going to be talking to the vengeful president biden, frequently,
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but, but part of the struggle right now between the different factions in the democratic caucus is what the 5 primary, you know, core message of the democratic party should be, you know, i think that you're focusing on, on jobs and the economy as the lead. what is that tension? like, what's the battle that's brewing over what the messaging of the democratic party should be. we've got to get back to what james carville has always said. it's the economy, stupid, it's the economy. and that's exactly what it is. and what's in for some reason. we've got on all of these. and that's what we've got tagged. washington democrats must be so smart, that's all we're talk about. they want to do this for everybody, and that's what i want people that want to perform and work and provide for themselves to have the greatest opportunity. and the most capitalist, the open society you've ever seen. and i'm not going to say that everyone's going to live the same,
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or get the same amount of resources and live and have the same. and the same type of homes or cars and all that you determine that. but i want everyone to have the opportunity to have the same car i have or same car you might have or the beautiful home that we might have and things of that sort. they should all have that opportunity. that's what we fight for. that's what caplets is. all about capitalism . not socialism brice people are coming to the right and left because they're fleeing socialism. and so now you've got tagged in the democrats never pushed back and never defined that. we're not socialist. we don't believe in socialism. and let me tell you, that's not the capitalism i believe in. do you think that the democratic party runs a risk sensually of being taken over by those people who do believe in socializing to different than saying socialism? but socializing a lot of problems. further socializing health care, further socializing education, further socializing, you know, finance and
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a number of these issues. and i think it's fair to say that that the wing of bernie sanders and cortez is comfortable with that description. do you think that, that the democratic party is at risk of that wing of the establishment taking control of, of a biden presidency and by the leadership? i know joe biden, that's not who joe biden is. i can assure you that that's not how he was raised as not how he's been in public service for all these years. it's not, it's not who he is or what he believes to be. so i have no fear of joe government, but i have fear that they simply they get too loud in the megaphone. the basically paints us with a broad brush. so who we are and the bottom are, as they can talk about, they want to, there's not going to be room for them in where i call a democratic party that was democratic principles. we just talked about. if there i said with that in there that their own party, that's what i will the attorney happy with that. but if the democrats and we always
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have a big tent, we want to hear from everybody, always, always look at the far left even more conscious. and michael, right there are for doing something they're bringing something up. maybe i didn't think about in a way that i didn't think about or didn't see. so when, when i hear of these new green deal and medicare for all i've said about medicare for all city, we can pay for medicare for some right now the people that are well paid into it. we have social security. every one of our trust funds are going to go broke. if we don't make some changes, let me ask you this, the cheap, the what this change we can make the social security. take the cap off the tax. take the cap off the tax if you want the wealthy to pay their fair share. take the tax off the cap. that gives us financial stability many, many, many years. there's little things we can do and doesn't harm anybody. but we're going to see that i can see the twitter hash tag for that on the,
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on the cap of the tax coming out there. and let me just ask you one last question. senator donald trump recently tweeted out, we won't let a rigged election steal our country. this was well after the election had been held well after the election had been called in show by the paper. you know, president trump, what do you think's going on and what do you think we're going to end up? and that's not surprising. seeing on president trump, i'm not surprised at all. he started building this fall scenario long before the election because he knew he was in trouble. they seen it coming, they've been polling, and they know the only way when he said the only way that joe biden can win. it is if they fraud and they still are true, that's the only way that donald trump knew that he could weren't. so he just reversed that scenario for joe biden's name. and that's known where they could have won because the public overwhelmingly was just saying a change needs to be done. and those people that he lost might have like some of
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the things he had done. policy wise. they just didn't like they just couldn't take the, the chatter on a daily basis. they can take the tweets coming up denigrating. every human being, you can take ok. who he fired? what country are we basically discriminating against? what company, what, what content re today, that we embarrassed by saying something that was offensive is just awful and is not who we are americans basically are looked upon as united as the united states is working with them to improve their lot in life, to prove that democracy does work when people are put a head of government and government officials. and it's a government of the people by the people and for that the knot of donald trump by don't trump him for gun control. and he had a hard time understanding that, so we'll see where it goes, but there's still falling. i can understand why, but i guess if you have 70000000 followers on your twitter account, that's
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a force that they would like to avoid if they possibly can. i still believe there's enough good republicans who stand up and basic approach country 1st, i'm waiting for them to come to the front. i think there's an awful lot of people that will help joe biden put a government that's all inclusive together. you'll see republicans and democrats working together. you'll see some far left movement of the democratic party that is mad at joe biden for working and bringing all inclusive bringing people together. or where this is likes of the colin powell or people of that sort of statue that have been around or some of the bush people that really want a government that united. we'll see how that works out. but i'm counting on joe biden, rising above all of that and bring his together. i hope happens. well, senator joe manchin, we'll leave it there. i know you work very hard to get republicans and democrats to talk with each other and actually pass legislation. so thank you so much for joining us today and sharing your candid thoughts. well,
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thank you for having then all of you, all your viewers and listeners there that remember we are the united states, not the divided states. and the country can take advantage of this great democracy of ours in this great economy of ours. and we will unite once the dust settles here . we both said the sooner than later. and you'll see more and more people coming out of the woodwork and speaking it's time to move on with our new president, elect, joe biden, and norm. i'm anxious to do that. thank you. thank you, senator. so what's the bottom line? the democratic party has been elected to lead america for the next 4 years, sort of preselect joe biden is going to have a tough time in the senate. and don't forget, donald trump is still going to be out there speaking directly to the 70000000 people who voted for him a real thorn in biden side. american politicians are at a fork in the road. you know, they're going to figure out how to compromise and play the center. we're going to retreat to party red lines and go absolutely nowhere. it's going to be
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a bumpy action packed, 4 years. stay tuned, and that's the bottom line. but kena faso is heading toward elections, but spiraling insecurity is overshadowing the votes. hundreds of thousands of conrad just out and much of the country is off limits. thanks to roaming on kreutz . so what real change can these elections bring? join us as we assess the outlook for one of africa's most troubled states. they are women and mothers performers. prisoners from their present in the plot to argentina. that inspiration is a force, new flu, wolski cheap, stifled,
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