60 thorough bred. if you did stallions, their words so much that 10 a year before the horse stable, displaced from his home and out, the e.u. has been an excellent trainer for over 40 years. now eager to return, he says, the better in water and will be like white de mint for the horses, or what the business will finish the cost or even the horses or i.d.p.'s like people very sensitive. and i could tell the horses felt they were being kicked out from their own land. i feel very emotional. once this cleared of mind, an infrastructure is redeveloped. the plant there is you worldwide auctions in car of the people of the horses, their music. the singing is all displaced from the region where it originally belonged to and they can't wait to return home down to 0. so the top stories on al jazeera, this hour,

israeli media reporting prime minister benjamin netanyahu has made a secret visit to saudi arabia. he's reported to have met the crown prince mohammed bin salman. and the u.s. secretary of state mike pompei o, who was in israel only last week, israeli prime minister's office isn't confirming or denying the reports from our force that in ramallah no denial and no official confirmation. but the lack of denial is pretty telling, especially given the fact that this isn't just one report. it has been pretty widely sourced by a number of israeli political journalists. and indeed, the prime minister's own social media comment advisor put out a tweet saying that while netanyahu is a coalition partner was playing politics, the prime minister was making peace. now the headlines, joshua wong and 2 other hong kong pro-democracy activists have pleaded guilty to charges relating to last year's protests. they will not be held in custody until sentencing next week and could face 5 years in jail. any 40000 ethiopian refugees

have now arrived in sudan, fleeing the fighting between government forces, government troops, and forces in the region. the o.p.'s prime minister has given those forces 72 hours to surrender. reuters is reporting the leader has rejected the ultimatum. another pharmaceutical companies announced promising results from its trials of a coronavirus vaccine astra zeneca says late stage testing of its treatment shows, it can be up to 90 percent effective. it's been developing the vaccine with oxford university. and yemen's hoti rebels say they have launched a missile at an fuel distribution station in saudi arabia's. western port city of jeddah saudi arabia has neither confirmed nor denied those claims up to date with the headlines on al-jazeera up front is next. realistically, how can you do with institutionalized corruption in this country? if we listen, if this breaks up into a conflict between august and india,

this has implications for the rest of the world. we meet with global newsmakers and talk about the stories that matter last year. if the o.p.'s prime minister won the nobel peace prize, now he's waging war in the countryside north. what happened to democracy? and who's to blame allies? 2 senior officials from both sides of the conflict in this week's up front special and just a few weeks, a power struggle in ethiopia between prime minister and the rebellious teenager. a region in the country's north has escalated into armed conflict. earlier this month, the government launched air raids on t. gray after it accused its leaders to tikrit people's liberation front or p.l.f.

of attacking a military base. the t.p.o. left denies the attack, but with communications down and video barred. it's impossible to verify claims made by each side. now 100 supported killed tens of thousands fleeing to neighboring sudan and p.l.f. missile attacks on eritrea's capital. there are fears the conflict could spill beyond borders and trigger, a humanitarian crisis. joining me to defend at explain the t.p.o., let's position is best to samer, an advisor to the regional state government. a great and former ambassador to the u.n. . but suffice to say, my thank you so much for joining me on outfront. thank you for having me. so you're a member. 3 of the people's liberation front, the t p l f, which ruled ethiopia for almost 30 years until 2018. when i became the prime minister. now your party has been basically feuding with him ever since then. or now the situation has deteriorated into war bombings, massacres, rockets fired into eritrea and deepening ethnic divisions. what happened to

democracy for this show for did not rule for the city. for the last 30 years that has to be accorded to you or the dominant party though. what if it was a dominant, it must stop being because it was a prime minister who was dominated the party because of his intellect and what have you. but that is what the whole world wants to believe that tippit and some minority under 7 or 6000000 people were dominating if you appear. but i beg to differ that if it was not administering any part of the country except its own region, how to set off to grab, did bad things happen for the 27 units? yes. and whether it is i.v. didn't come out of nowhere. he was a member of the leadership, he was a member of the central committee executive committee, head of the national security. what have you before all,

including the took care of and the other affiliated parties. and i'm going to say the idea of did accept the responsibility and they wanted to do for me if you we stick with taking the development out 14 feet. but what you just said earlier, the shortcomings in the problems we have. why did i have you do? he believe is the problem of the country on the ticket. if he demolished the fair that allowed him to mint egypt guys in multinational country we have are not intimate affair that are listed. even if you want to do that, you have to go through the corners to should he divided the political thinking among what you call us that are versus you need to state it so that if you had a fuse to participate in this kind of what you have going for the last century or so and so you can sense it. ok. and some of these things that you are saying are valid concerns and we plan to put that to the other guest that we have and speaks

on behalf of the government. but i have more questions for you in the meantime. so the team p.l.s. had an opportunity to join the unity government and december and, and you did and you turned it down why? because the political party is pro sort of tea party. you need to appeal this, paul, is this a unique to the state he is getting read off the faded out of enjoyment. that kind of coldest. you should that to feel if paid over 60000 feet is due to young people. i guess it does to bring avalos. the fear that i'm old michigan. nationality should big have an exam. so the 4 weeks ahead of both is how yes you know them are either yes, yes, photocopy what he wants to be in each. no faith that are not going to meant so that the creative said no, it's not me, we're not. so you're saying 40 people, ok, so you're saying that he felt that it wasn't in your party's best interest. i'm actually glad that you brought up eritrea. let's talk about that right now because

there is a concern that what is happening between abbie's government and the tea p.l.f. could spiral beyond ethiopia's borders. this past weekend that spokesperson, pataki read it confirmed that the team had fired rockets on quote, military targets. not anything but in eritrea on the capital asmara that certainly seems reckless. what is the goal. 'd what is too great trying to accomplish, doing this to eritrea? let me tell you about the background to a fair trial and the current system, if you need to appear could it could be for us to see 1st answer. the question just what it was. i am going to answer to the question, but you have to have the background. what has happened is, you know, the contents and the fear. if you did fight side by side to get rid of the court order to move to a city jim not into war. and in 1908 is how yes

opened a war against taking a border issue as an excuse. he was defeated and he has a good idea, is that they're going to be put into to be a gift, because as that time. but i missed it was in each of the defense forces where mainly the how of the 100. so i said i could afford your defense. let me finish. so here i said, i hate to destabilize and didn't know they would you that i side by side, what we have tanks crossing the border before that to appear. if there is an army, is making calls or party seeking regime change and to destabilize eritrea. it is not, it is not there to feel if it's business secure. that is human, i was, it is protecting itself. i mean, you know, it's only what we say. yes. yes, i just did it because you can confirm it from the sources of the south sudanese government. he has asked the 450000 soldiers to defeat,

to go to the border that the forces into that incited to go back. they had to destroy the border town. there's a number i can say that had into so that ok so eritrea. so i would, i'd let you have your time. so just a moment eritrea does deny that i want to talk. now more about the human toll about what is happening. amnesty international confirmed that likely hundreds of people were either stabbed or hat to death and make in the region almost 27000, people have fled the country. hundreds of people are dead. families are being traumatized. thousands of people are homeless. is all of this worth it for the fight for autonomy? enough, you know, it's a single last resort. most of the members, but it is the people are defending themselves. and right, why do those tentative? they didn't of course, no border. they did not fight. they did nothing to,

to be you completely one just people and this is, if it should be, it should be in the cushions of the people they international community bestowed a noble peace prize that has a license to own citizens. so it wasn't very good to decide is a very strong word in a lot of what's happening in the region. unfortunately, it's very difficult to confirm because the region is so is so cut off. but just to be clear, when you say something like that, you talk about the outside world. what happens at the t.v. left cannot count on cartoon to facilitate links to the outside world as it has in the past. i mean land lot as that land locked, pardon me between the rest of ethiopia, eritrea and sudan. the really is not

a lot of connection to the outside world, but khartoum is not in the same position that it has been in the past to facilitate any of this. what happens to the t.p. left, if it cannot count on khartoum to facilitate that? what's happening? first of all, if i am telling you, if you doubt, and if it is not true, you should ask the international community. the media like the b.b.c. to be out allowed to go into the ground to get our it is completely equal, not off. there is nothing that's come out that governments have the afghan hound because they have the media because international coalition is. but this didn't come out one of the states, i am sure it getting by international media. the international community should call for an immediate cessation of hostilities and all part of the should come to no bush interval. there has to be a money set and quoted or suffer. are you concerned that this could erupt into a proxy war? it is already under, you know, war. i just told you editor i was there, you have said that about eritrea. eritrea has denied that. are you still concerned

that it could become broader than that? there is a possibility of golf rivalries being at night and how concerned are you about that? it is already there. you know, if you is there to try to deny, and i said, look, i am here in new york talking to many countries. they do have their own sites and i think they know many constitutional what's happening as of egypt. they just want to look the other way. so every today is involved. he starts out into if you don't take my word for it, i ask for they took piano government to allow you to go to the i'm going to tell me what they are, what is the end goal for the t.p. l.f.? what is it that you want for ethiopia that took it out of people who wanted to live in peace as you call it was a restore one on the 10000000 into a pianist. no more nor less. they went to, i mean, he said to themselves, they were not accept that tight on the government dictating them like it has happened in the last 3 days. snuffy, so it is out of me,

they have been doing this out for 2527 years. they don't want to give up on that. believe me that ryssdal, if you can't be honest, also want to do that. they just don't have this strong defense to gripe enough or know has this government has weak killing the almost a war like us for 2 and a half years it took we have been known for this before that a spiritual is to leave was in ethiopia. so long as they had a suspect, as their culture is respected, they couldn't be satisfied in the state. ok, i want to ask you one last question. what is your message to the people of ethiopia beyond t.? great people are scared and some of them might even say that this conflict is about a power struggle between the elites and has nothing to do with them. what, what's your message to them? the vast majority of future pianists, no venue where this is not the parser going to court, it's the violence that killing half the displacement has been, you know,

all part in all of that. if you're about to get out for the last 2 years, we've both to come to a negotiating table. people are suffering, people are dying, and therefore to feel if he's ready to do that, government is ready. source that includes in full their political thinking that has to participate. we need to go toward negotiations and come out of the political solution. otherwise, yes, this is good, i think, but i know by many standards just too strong a national academies for special forces from a very mobilized, but they have no 2 exams to live that have a history. that will be the final word. that's a to say my thank you so much for joining us on our project. next up, i'm joined by zytiga, prague. prime minister. i'll be at metz minister in charge of democratisation who

until last year was actually a member of the t.p. l.f. himself. so take a broad thank you for joining me on up front. a year ago, ethiopia's prime minister was awarded the nobel peace prize at the time. this is what he said. it's very striking. he said, war is the epitome of hell for all involved. i know because i was there and back now he is bombing part of his own country. the country is on the brink of civil war . what happened? well, so years ago the people of ethiopia now split the loan. and if you have the kind of, you know, 4th, if you get it, it's better still to believe was given the chance to believe it was too good to be resistant. but instead you're doing it is a really key. and then you can use this go isn't, let's talk about how things have escalated so far and how to deescalate that. and,

so the u.n. secretary general and tony, good terrorists actually call for immediate measures to deescalate tensions and ensure a peaceful resolution to the dispute. the tiberi regional president has publicly appealed to the african union to mediate this conflict. yet abhi outlet has refused offers of mediations. he says, this is an internal affair and it, and assuring the rule of law, why won't the prime minister allow mediators with for one thing, we have to be part of this initiative. them to be forces of change for the past 3 years to believe chose to be here. and i don't know that betty let well, let me out in the middle of the just a moment in the day. don't know sort of your system with the why. why won't the prime minister allow mediators well, you know, who will, who, which government would see in their wishes we see don't in which it was a terrorist group that chose to kill our citizens. we had to do it to defend it.

again, people from any force of it for you know, the mission, this government, when it comes to peace, cannot be questioned. we are the ones that are suited to do good loaned to me to eat it. did it? is the party that was so to do this piece today of how this is normal and to question, oh, i'm going to go into the waiting just a moment. this madness or any you call them terrorist group. that's a very, very harsh language, a group of which you were recently just a part of. but are you saying that there is no way to have any type of dialogue? the prime minister is a nobel prize winner. are you saying that he cannot sit down with this fellow country men be at the, the t.p.s. later to sort out some sort of nonviolent solution. he spoke with eritrea and work things out. is there not a way for him to deal with, with regional governments that something that if he has to tell if spokesperson has even call for these out in total, out of their country men, these people choice to shoot in the forehead of our soldiers?

i do sleep, these people try to loot and how doing that that would have meant to put it on people from any place you put in addition, this season. it is in this act of maximum sort of that one can possibly imagine. you cannot sit down, you cannot be asked what i did, but the standard is that you had serious, serious allegations about that. but the un human rights chief has warned that the situation could spiral out of controls that war crimes may already have been committed. more than 2 27000 refugees have fled to sid and mc international supported large numbers, potentially hundreds of deadly hackings in an stabbings. integrate just last week, which ever side is responsible in a lot of this is very difficult to confirm from from either side because of a blackout there. whichever side of responsible are you saying that that

a dialogue to stop this is just completely off the table and that it has to be force to give it in order to move the parties. s.b.c. . even as i was informed that he said, i know this because it kind of it, and it is not going to be easy simply trying to bait so that it will be needed to go to that country. so we need to increase the citizens you know, the c.d.c. 150000, that is what is what to eat is it's going to be a nice tender you know, you call that a terrorist group. and i do want to point out that you are not willing to sit down with the representative from the team for a debate on this program. that's why we're conducting these separate one on one interviews. but i do want to put some of the allegations against the prime minister from the t.v. left to you because they're very,

very serious. so folks per cent call the prime minister of violence, entrepreneur who is using security forces to suppress dissent, kill and maim hundreds of people at will, and to incarcerate, and to jail, thousands of opposition. members, what is your response to that claim? that's a larry because he's told the family. so how does that show the new raising of hope in ethiopia? since he took power, if you're, if you're going to have, you know, we're going to be happy, you know, ethiopians. how about for the past 70 years, ethiopians i thought for a while to see but, and they have created enough chances, but every chance i got, i bought it in making me say, what mr. bush needs the sun. if you were here, if you're going to determine, you know, how to make it what it was a bit democracy, a democratic sexes, what do you get into it? i said, is there a way that you know, he's ok talking about his own money?

that's exactly is becoming ok, hold on, hold on. well, but just a moment. it's not just a tepee a left though. that is saying things like that that is concerned that abby is going pretentiously in an authoritarian direction. ethiopia's own human rights commission said the country detained, more than 9000 people. between may and august. after protests broke out on the road near reagent, a prominent activist was dragged by police from his bed in the middle of the night . as he slept next to his pregnant wife, abbie's biggest challenger, dr. mohamad, us in prison on charges of terrorism. this is not just coming from the team p.l.f. . this is their leader, and we were not brought in new. we were free for this. we but we were free form has brought about its losers and winners. the people just built on a democratic endeavor is not going to make the movie and they're trying to become a roadblock to making it here. and it will be successes, don't 100,

if you see his case, it's sort of always pretty dire presiding over the case. so we can all make a full assessment. but if you see, once again, president evasions and president journalists, and opponents is not something that just happens because you're trying to do business on the phone. and this is a matter of the rule of law spending a lot easier though. legally committed a crime. you're talking about one person, i said 9000. people were in jail. i said 9000 people. there was a number has to be but still the forces were brought in this country. it is your own human rights commission. that is saying that 9000 number this. this is this, he, my commission is on its own in this commission, but it doesn't mean we have to constrain the numbers. there's a report from human rights watch. warders, an ethiopian own human rights commission that says that to gray and say that they are being targeted based on their ethnicity. i'm not talking about the leadership

that there are specific incidents of to great and saying that they are being singled out and targeted based on their ethnicity. what do you say about that? i don't want to there. i don't want us 6000000 to gran's. only 10 or 20 of these people abroad tool will do, and so brought to a court of law on their own, on their own solutions of corruption. so no, no, i'm not. and i'm not talking about being arrested. i'm talking about people saying that they are been suspended from their jobs, that they're not being allowed to fly. the that's not the case. this government does not discriminate in one building and it's messy. so that this government is, i mean is this, i guess a struggle for s.s.i. . so are you saying that what they're saying is not true and can you not at least condemn it? if i'm telling you there are people within our study, cement that are connected with the barrier and we've got to take

a safety measures with those that do it is not indiscriminate. disc, indiscriminate, the 2nd is against, this is not what the government stands for. what action to be condemned for the time. stacey's, i'm saying it is essential that has been done here in ethiopia. feet. but just to be clear, the human rights commission has for see what they consider to be valid complaints from people. and that they have learned that a justified risk or threat or fear of ethnic profiling and discrimination has risen . that is directly from the human rights commission and our own country. you're still saying that it's not happening. as i said that there are people that are connected with it to believe that if you mean you said it was people other ways, it is no indiscriminate. but he said it is the games. if he says, if you made it, it is easy. no trying to get to it if he's trying to accuse us of

a few people. so there are a lot of course of people to say, i would say, as you mentioned earlier, the prime minister is a nobel prize winner for has efforts in bringing peace to the region. the conflict that is happening now, not only threatens ethiopia, but also neighboring sudan, eritrea somalia. how worried are you and the prime minister about that? a prime minister who says he's about peace. that's wrong. this, he said domestic issue to us. this is, you know, we need to sort of images. you can, you can't, you know, what i'm about, what happens in ethiopia does have a trickle down effect on other countries in the region. yes, it does. but it's the prettiest. but when it comes to these, why we let me tell you, carry on, you know, just sort of the proclamation that we live, eat, is only applicable in this conflict is not even politically known. so there is no,

so it is in ethiopia because we are, there are thousands of people. there are thousands of people that are fleeing going to neighboring sabbat. this is something that we are going to, and this is sort of, you know, people, if is the reason behind the decision. and one of the it was the reason behind just a minute between the 2 days due to appear in the media for it for more than 2 kids today. what is your message to people? not just to gran's, to, to everybody. people are scared, they're living in fear, and some would even say that this conflict is about a power struggle between people that are not connected to their lives. this is another power struggle i used to believe that is resisting that is trying to me. and i learned of it as something to change

and i don't what are you don't have that goes to which is that those around the cities and all the people we're all sat down part and parcel of the struggle and the savings, the sort of the southport of these you can keep including the people that will be the final word. thank you so much for joining us on upright. thank you. thank you. and that is our show for now. i'll be back next week.

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