but we are not in the position to do that from our standpoint, this isn't the decisions of the arbitrator and there's no way that's what we do know is that it was a one day fancy i had seen has been so without, i mean to her or us let's take you through some of the headlines here now just 0. now. football legend diego maradona has died long considered one of the sport's greatest players, the 60 year old argentinian passed away from a heart attack. to raise a bow has more from one side s. . he's a hero, people with green hearing,

some of those we have spoken to are saying that for example, my, when i made them cry out of happiness because he helped argentina win the world cup in 1960. but now we're going to be crying out of pain. another person told us that now diego, my brother, and i will be playing with god, but also the angels and the devils are going to be watching him play my little man . i want to has a crucial role in argentina. the president has just announced that argentina is going to have 3 days of mourning out of respect for the law. and now the ethiopian government stead line for the surrender of to graeme forces has expired. the federal army has surrounded to gross capital mccalla, and is threatening to use artillery on the city of 500000 people. here morgan is in sudan near the ethiopian border with more on the humanitarian crisis. authorities say that the number of refugees who arrive to this camp alone are much more than they were expecting. the numbers are in the hundreds and not the dozens as initial

when the camp started or when the camp opened nearly 3 weeks ago. the numbers of those who are arriving were about 50 to 60 per day. but that has come, it has gone up to 2 to 300 per day, and that's in the camp by the time they wrap a pretty straight in. and they say more arrive overnight and in the late hours and then they registered the next day. so the figures have been rising. oil tanker has been damaged by an explosion of saudi arabia's southwestern coast near the city of the greek operators of the mt. it was attacked while unknown source no injuries have been reported. iran has agreed to release british australian academic collymore gilbert in exchange for 3 arabians joe, the broad gilbert was arrested in 2018. after attending a conference in rome, it's inside story. now.

the u.s. is making the fight to save the planet priority. while donald trump was skeptical about climate change, president elect joe biden sees it as critical. he's appointed the 1st presidential climate and boy, how will bond effect global ambitions to tackle the crisis? this is inside story. hello, welcome to the program and burn. it's the climate change is an urgent national security issue says joe biden's transition team. so he's given john kerry

a seat on the national security council to drive home his commitment to the environment. before my secretary of state has been shopping, critical of donald trump's dismantling of climate policies will now join a national security team that biden says is ready to lead the world. not retreat from it. john kerry was a leading architect of the 2015 paris agreement, which the president elect has pledged to rejoin as soon as he enters the white house. mr. president elect, you've put forward a bold, transformative climate plan. but you've also underscored that no country alone can solve this challenge. even the united states for all of our industrial strength is responsible for only 13 percent of global conditions. to end this crisis, the whole world must come together. you're right to rejoin paris on day one

and you're right to recognize that paris alone is not enough president donald trump pulled the u.s. out of the paris climate agreement in 2017. he considered the pact a disaster and said the cost to meet its goals would harm the u.s. economy. be a cord commits nations to reducing greenhouse gas emissions to curb global warming, . the u.s., the world's 2nd largest emitter, pledged to reduce levels by about 25 percent by 2025, but biden is now targeting net 0 emissions by 2050 and has pledged to trillion dollars to boost the use of clean energy over 4 years. let's bring in our guests bill. mckibben is the shoeman distinguished scholar at middlebury, college, and leader of the climate campaign group, 350 dot org. he joins us from ripton. in vermont from london,

we're joined by nick may be chief executive of the climate change. think tank ether, e g, and in detroit we have michael dorsey co-founder of the sunrise movement and former e.p.a. national advisory committee member during the obama administration. welcome to you all, michael. 1st of all joe biden wants to put climate change on the agenda in the situation room. what effect will that have on getting the global community to endeavor intensify the battle against climate change? putting climate change on the situation room, as you say is critically important for welfare and united states as well as welfare . it's essential that we get back into these talks and we need them just as kerry mention, not just comparisons because that's not really to delivering on high ambition. that means bowing out more noble energy. that means. 'd tackling the unfolding climate crisis as it were. so it's absolutely critical that we get climate change square on

in a multilateral conversation. in the u.s. play a big role in bel after 4 years of a trump administration. will it make a big difference globally to having somebody like john kerry as joe biden says, in the situation room? yet think it will. the great one of the great shames of the trumpet ministration was that the country to dump more carbon into the atmosphere than any other. it was also the only country in the world, not participating in the global process to do something about climate change. but as michael said, i think the key remark that kerry made was that we need to go beyond paris. we know that the agreement, as it's written, doesn't take us far enough to really much slow down the pace of global warming. it's a beginning but kerry, who was there when it was written, understood from the start that it was the beginning if that and so, and the need quickly to push on to higher in vision. i'm sure he's aiming already

for the next conference of the parties that will be a year from now has to go and a real opportunity for nations to ratchet up their commitment to climate action. nick, do you think this appointment of a kerry will do that? will ratchet up the campaign to tackle a climate crisis. well, it's from the outside. john kerry is, a great appointment and the pennsic he is positioned in s.c., gives us hope that the us will be rather more joined dots on climate policy at the heart of its foreign policy than we've seen to date. because as the others have sent, it's not just about the u.n. climate agreement. we need climate to be a golden thread through the world bank. the i.m.f. trade talks geopolitics with china. so that's critical, i think for the rest of the world has been getting on with delivering parents for the next 4 years. they want to us that comes back into the fold, but perhaps as part of a leadership group, not as a leader on its own. everybody is comfortable, the paris agreement is

a framework inside which we increase ambition and no one is looking to renegotiate paris. the real focus of the next year led by the you can, it really is to get countries to commit to a mall, which was what they promised in paris. and actually what we're seeing around the world countries, even china stepping up with ambition. michael, you were at those paris negotiations in the u.s. green zone. i know you've said before that perhaps the agreement lacked teeth and we've just touched on. not so do you think kerry is the right appointment taken considering, i mean he's a veteran diplomat. so he has the gravitas, but is he the right man to take this forward? you know, i think he's clearly a skilled diplomat. i think we're going to have to wait and see what younger the skill, the mass he brings on his team. we've got big structural problems in the past agreements and we've got to get beyond. 'd the last, you know, adequate reduction commitments at last an accountability system and a lack of commitments on climate that blackguard to use for

a green card and financing and so court. so that stuff has got to be charged and we've got to move out with something much more ambitious. and so we've got to wait and see who you put on his team to get this done. it's going to be critical that we've got a younger generation really thinking about, you know, the reality of human or pricing when charley was doing that. the prices were what i think you can call in the so drastic period. 'd when jurassic period they were 89 percent higher than now, today, we can do much, much more, much faster. a deliver, really well the head of any kind of 25th generation. we can begin to tackle this problem and prices, you know, out at 2025 point, 3 percent. we need to really perform that so that when we put on his team bill, john kerry certainly has the contacts. he's well known internationally. but is he, as you say, the right person to move this forward to build on paris? does it depend on who he has working with him? i guess. well, just has joe biden has said he plans to be

a transitional figure in the presidency. i think it's pretty clear that john kerry will have to be a transitional figure in climate diplomacy. the hope is to get us set for the next 101520 years, michael's absolutely right talking about 2050. and this point doesn't get us very far in the key questions are about 2030. and that means kerry putting in place a team internationally. and then the domestic climate czar who biden has promised to name in the next week doing the same thing internally in the u.s. between the 2 of them, that's a lot of firepower, and it may be enough to really get the u.s. off the dime and moving in a new direction, nic just a quick reminder force plays on some of the practicalities of what paris is supposed to achieve. one of those is to keep, keep global temperature rises below 2 degrees c. . ideally no, no more than 1.5 degrees. just for the people to understand if the temperature, rises a cat to about 1.5 degrees c. what does that mean?

what difference does that make while the, basically the new science some expect actually even more times next year to confirm . that's what's he's talking about on the hop to greasy. you're in real risk of having irreversible tipping points in the out system. whether that's upticks, a ice car race, the amazon, and that means we get damage when it runs away with itself. so we still can control planet, but less than we could to full. so to avoid that highly dangerous sign of irrepressible catastrophic change, we need to keep temperatures as low as possible as to the 1.5 degrees threshold. there is no place of no risk, but this is all about managing and keeping risk as loss possible. but the response of the others, i think again, you know that what has moved on while trump has been in power, we've launched a huge amount of new ambition. europe will agree a 2030 target, hopefully and december the u.k. will as it's legislation in place one out more the next few days. so my new zealand,

australia, canada, the us needs to show its 202030 targets before it can push others to move forward. so again, the world is looking for the us strength of the senate, understood by everybody. george are understood by everybody to really think it's domestic hard yards and join an international effort and i do gruen my, my father climaxed within the us. please don't come out thinking i'm going to redesign the paris agreement, people being working within it. we've been working around it for them our flesh to, develop a bank. the i.m.f., the central bank has done an awful lot of work. we don't want to have an argument about the framework we want to comment about ambition and about delivery and us. we want us to join the argument, but we don't want to in the us, you kind of president of caught not want a big argument about rule structures in glasgow. the one argument about action and deliberate. michael, you don't want an argument about rules and structures. do you want an argument isn't about delivery. now one of the us is having an argument or, you know,

5 or older group were really committed to delivering for future. making sure that we deliver welfare dramatically in certain booklet and really increasing ambition. that's really not a part of that discussion that we're having here, despite the fact the outgoing president, we're having that discussion, many civil society, many people are not having that conversation and have been having to ask for yet. but they continue to actually deliver on companies that are now committing real results and financial resources structures of the type of problem that were firing up the group. so it's not so not really going to be an idea. it's going to be, you're coming in and leaving by walking the talk of ok. a bill does bringing that, bringing that 1.5 degrees. c. limit does biden, sorry, rejoining the paris accord. bring that 1.5 degrees c. limit within striking distance. now, many people given up on it before. well,

i mean, the true and true answer is we don't know there's a lot of momentum in physics this situation now. we've watched around the world this year from the fires in australia to the fires in california to the fires in south america, the moon to the 30 plus hurricanes in the atlantic basin. we were seeing change at a scale we haven't seen before. and what it underlines is the need to move with true aggression to true speed. winning slowly on climate change is just another way of losing. so at this point, civil society, those of us in the activist world, are primed to push and push really, really hard. there's no room for complacency among our officials and bill, i want to ask you as well. the fact is moving towards a cleaner energy economy, an easy a sell now than it was 15 to 20 years ago. absolutely, i mean, you know, look 15 or 20 years ago solar power,

wind power was an expensive and somewhat fringe technology. now it's the cheapest way to generate power around the world. we'd be fools not to do it. we're going to move in that direction. but if we just go with the pace that economics dictates, we won't get there fast enough. we'll have a solar powered but broken planet. so the job of everybody is to speed up that transition mightily. and that means pushing not just on washington, not just on governments around the world. it means pushing hard on wall street and on financial markets around the world. i think that's one place for the biden ministration is going to make big difference. it's going to be easier for those of us who are pushing hard on the banks and asset managers and insurance companies to find some real leverage. nick, people can see and feel climate change getting was in the 2020 set to be one of the hottest is on record. so is there a greater appreciation, at least that there is a climate crisis facing us practically?

yeah, and there's fame global polling recently. that's how it up during cave in just saying that even in oil rich countries, people are highly concerned about climate change because they can see it and feel it. and i totally agree with bill. this is about moving faster than the economics. we won the opportunity agenda, we want it, this is the economic economy of the future, even in china, because it is how costly go there because that's what determines our climate risk. so some of the things the world is looking for us to do now is to stop all funding of fossil fuels. few that export finance us in sessional, an investment corporation, the european investment bank, the world's largest public bank has, is going to phase out fossil fuel funding next year. and it will still even alliance of fossil fuel, fuel free public banks across the world who want us in that want us using it, see the well and to stop the world bank funding any projects, the 1st things we can do, stop fueling the problem and devote most funds to building a clean economy and the us president has lots of leaves. he doesn't need the senate

. so after mission of the senate to get going on that immediately on day one, michael 2 thirds of americans, including a majority of republicans, say they want the government to do more on climate change. but then the republicans are more interested in capturing carbon from coal fired plants, expanding nuclear energy biden wants to phase out fossil fuel, their power electricity. so how do you, in a divided congress, bring those 2 differing views of controlling climate change together? well, a few wayward republicans last really leading on this issue has already decided that religion is the cheapest way to produce energy. you know the thing about heresy that was about billions, that what you know, tomorrow and even today, i don't know what's in it because when he saw her and read, she was generating energy and that's going to continue to be the essence of the

future. and so the business group has moved off from you know, i'm still a republican state folks and they're already committing on a big bill. what tools does president elect biden on john kerry, i guess, have to pressure countries to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions to limit deforestation, and to push the use of clean energy technology. what, how can they twist oms? well, i mean, they, the u.s. is no longer washington's no longer the center of the world in the way that it was even a decade or 2 ago. and that's probably for the better job of the u.s. is not to go and twist arms around the world. to get everybody to do what it wants, its job is to be part of an important or a global coalition that's moving in this you direction. there are plenty of tools to take on real criminals like balsa naro in brazil who's you know,

trying to torch the humans on and people will have to go after those go after them hard. but the real job here is to make sure that everybody is moving together fast . we don't call it global warming for nothing. you can't solve it in one place. one place. nick, what tools would you think a president would have in terms of trade deals or other international agreements to to persuade like gods to increase the fight against climate change? i think, to be honest, at the most countries that america has a few rogue left. but most countries, it's small helping them go as fast as they can because the others have said, you know, this is good for your economy and you not going to get foreign investment if you're building a dirty economy. so the finance really important. 3 things which the woak campaigns which the u.k. and others a launching for next year would like to have us in firstly committing to an

internal combustion engine. as you case just announcement by 2030, others like 2035 or 2040. if you just got california in that group with china, we could drive the global kamarck at the right direction. so that's one. secondly, being part of a discussion, as you case building with countries who export to commodities like soil, palm oil, to stop any imports of commodities commission driven by the forestation. we should get a side that i call 26. another said before, if we can get the money that the public banks to be in the right place and us to be then that be great to it. so there are some sort of coalitions already in the process of being formed that you at us could slot in brilliantly to put its whole muscle diplomatic and financial market behind driving everything fast. the next year, michael president trump council though loosened nearly $100.00 rules and regulations on pollution in the air and water in the atmosphere. now you can clean up and water

sort of reasonably quickly. it is not the same with greenhouse pollution. is it? so how long those heat trapping gases admitted is a little as elusive as a consequence of loosening regulation. stay up in the, at how much damage has been done now. so one thing we know is that president elect biden is committed to broadly the idea of climate justice, environmental justice. that means he's going to really focus on picking some of the head environmental protection agency to tackle many of the problems that you identify. the reality though, in terms of tackling greenhouse gas emissions, that's going to have to see a big, you know, injection of resources and capital, some government monies to, to really accelerate the build out of renewable technologies, spread out worldwide through the u.s. renewable technologies. solar and wind production make up really high single digit percent of the mix of energy that's got to get really, you know, 2345 times higher or lower today's prices. so one of the big things that's going to

drive the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions out of that green new solar and wind technology happening in the u.s. got to happen much faster. it's happening around rugged many countries are deciding really they're not going to focus on and invest in that old 20th century, dirty technology or old particular technology to make them become eproms are around the world in asia and africa, latin america. and that's all happening. that's going to be keeping a lot of movement, particularly when it's well below 0, all the regulations that were loosened by the trumpet, ministration of that left us with irreversible damage. look, the trump administration robbed the world of the momentum that we had coming out of paris. it was a big pot hole in the road. and there's going to have to work hard to get that kind of momentum bax. we can get into the virtuous circle knicker describing are things

really start to move their own court. the key part to keeping that happening is going to be lots of pressure from civil society movements. have to keep increasing that pressure and that's been the most important thing that's happened over the last 10 years, alongside those advances in engineering. the rise of movements that have millions of people in the streets remains crucial to keeping this at the very top of the agenda because it's difficult. it takes lots of focus, lots of commitment on our leaders who are go, always going to have day to day problems that are more pressing that particular afternoon. that's why there has to be, it is just ongoing push from civil society every single day. nick burns prime minister, barak's johnson has invited joe biden to glasgow next year. this time next year. is that sort of a sigh of relief?

those concerned about the environment that there is going to be a new new to us leader, that the last 4 years things have been left adrift. of course, there's a lot of relief that we don't have to deal with. they are actually much more incompetent than we expected from fossil fuel diplomacy. but yeah, the view from outside the us going to see is not that drift is actually about a huge momentum. we've had. now the fridays for the futures markets across europe., exxon except for betty and in the u.k., similar movements around the world. we've seen renewables and actually because, except right, much faster than we thought. so there is actually parents didn't have a huge amount of momentum saying the u.s. was disconnected from that for a while. and it's great, the u.s. is back, the problem is as the others have said, is not enough momentum. and as bill says, this tough decisions we've done, easy bits of decolonization are going to get in people's cars, their homes, that diet, you know. so we need to deepen and strengthen our social movements,

expand beyond the usual suspects if we're going to keep people on site for what is a beneficial transformation, but it's a huge and destructive transformation nonetheless. so yet that getting up to the speed we need to get to him is unprecedented in human history as a transformation and that so it's not, we're lacking moment is just, we need to rise this guy out of the challenge because we can't go save the planet so michael, what are your ambitions for the u.n. climate conference? china climate change conference in glasgow next year? do you think they'll be a firming up of the paris accord now that john kerry is leading the biden administrations and by mental campaign? you know, i think there's at least 3 key things that we need and that's really going to shoot raw live. you're wrapping up and we've got to have, you know, adequate, you know, reduction commitments for continuing to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. we're also going to have an accountability countries all to make sure that. 'd they stay on course and not just volunteers. and then we're going to really commit resources,

i think, to those new groups out to really deliver on this and where it's going to take resources money in particular, it's going to take real commitment on building our look. there are receiving a lot of actors. are we don't need government so i'm there and you commit not just a volunteer to do well. unfortunately, just as we've got so much more to talk about, we're out of time, i'm afraid. but thanks to all our guests to bill mckibben to nick maybe and to michael dorsey. and thank you to the watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al-jazeera dot com. and for more debate, go to our facebook page at facebook dot com, forward slash a.j. inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our handle is at a.j. inside story and i am asked, is there a burning for me, vernon smith, and a whole team here by fire.

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