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they're on about their treatment through switzerland has rejected a plan to hold businesses accountable for human rights and environmental violations committed outside the country. but measure could have made large, found liable for any damages they caused abroad, as well as those of their foreign subsidiaries, apartments. and narrowly passed a popular vote amongst swiss photos, but regional leaders rejected it both needed for it to pass that this is out of there. and these are the headlines. at least 110 civilians have been killed in northeast nigeria. and what the un's described as a gruesome massacre, a film is tending crops many others, also injured in that attack. the armed group boko haram. a suspected of being behind that attack, the deadliest in borno state. this year, amid interest has more from the nigerian capital abuja. the incident happened in 2
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villages at least 2 villages in northeastern nigeria in borno state in particular. and one surprising thing is that the attackers, according to sources, came on motorcycles, and there has been a ban on the use of motorcycles in that region for at least 6 years now. so it's surprising how security forces couldn't identify it, would discover some people illegally using motorcycles. they carried out their tax when these farm workers were busy harvesting rice in the fields in the course of it, as well as a bit of money where we saw today. a funeral for $43.00 of the victims were, was held, was consonance, 2 largest counties, a finalized a recount of votes, confirming president elect joe biden. as the wenna, the recount paid for by donald trump's campaign found no instances of fraud from voters or election officials. at least 31
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afghan soldiers have been killed in a suicide bomb attack in gaza. a province a public protection force compound belonging to afghan security forces was the target. no group has yet claimed responsibility. a day off to ethiopia's, prime minister came to victory in the region. leaders of the de grande forces say they've shot down a military plane and captured the pilot. the t.p.i. left told the reuters news agency. the pilot was on a mission to bomb the area. they've been fighting government forces that for 3 weeks now and say they've also retaken the northern town of diego. maradona's doctor has denied that medical negligence contributed to his death police. and what has areas raided the home, the home and office of dr. leopoldo luka. it's part of an investigation for involuntary manslaughter. up front. it's next. dissecting the headlines in the midst of a pandemic. let's start with some of the on the ground realities of speculative news coverage. what's the lay of the land there?
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stripping away the spin. ripping still worrying about presidential corruption, it is real reporting. it's not if you keep challenging assumptions and the official line, we all decided we need to tell our story. we don't want to rely on the authority and it's media. listening post on al-jazeera. she's an author, the recipient of a multitude of international awards and a former us vice presidential candidate. we talked to renowned environmentalist and indigenous rights activist when ola do but 1st, it's led to the largest protest. poland has seen in decades. we discussed the country's controversial move to all but ban abortion for more than a month,
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poland has been swept by the biggest protests the country has seen since the fall of communism. hundreds of thousands of demonstrators rallied in more than 500 cities and towns after poland's constitutional tried to annul effectively out lot of borson many are directing their anger towards the governing right wing law and justice party. but will the protesters demands be able to prevail in this traditionally catholic country and is poland on the brink of a revolution? joining me to debate this are caroline of acorah, political editor of the polish weekly called torah liberal. now an assistant professor at the university of warsaw and possibly blonsky deputy foreign minister and member of the law and justice party. thank you both for joining me in the arena . pavol, i want to start with you. it's been about a month now since poland's constitutional tribunals issued a ruling which would affectively ban abortion once employ a minute. it would prohibit abortion, even in cases where there is a fetal defect. why make this move? now, this decision doesn't affect simply on all abortion because the law proven it's
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true. oh, i flew to criminalize for abortion in cases of threats for life or health for the mother. also in case of rape or incest would effectively change. here is the rules in the cooler and seward's is st assuring issued on in the last 20 years that the facts are not fatal. for example, down's syndrome, and other non-lethal syndromes should not constitute a permission for abortion services based on protection of lives, of people with disabilities. that's more or less the legal reasoning behind this. why now, doc, just a decision of the constitutional tribunal, which is the courts, the sides, the legality of lot of village, it seemed couldn't form it. so your law would the constitution karolina, why do you think this is happening now? just to be clear, the status quo is that abortion is allowed in cases where the mother's health is at
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risk, rape, or incest. and in cases where there is a fetal defect, why do you think this is happening now? of course is right when he says it's not a complete ban on abortion because there are 2 other cases in which are fortunate still legal in poland. but you have to remember that according to the data i'm aware leave from 1997, only 1000 legal abortions have been performed in our country. and a vast majority of those abortions was actually due to the severe defect or malformation of the fetus. and this current case is now illegal, so it's a practical complete ban on abortion because if you're talking about these 2 percent or something, of course they are legal, but it's very marginal. so i do believe the scope of protests came as
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a surprise for the law and justice party. but i do believe that there was an actual want to the action, namely the situation with you and me with a couple 1000 come to me in poland. is looking quite serious. you're saying as a distraction. is that what you're saying? you know, when you look at the liberal populist governments oh, around the world, reach for religion when they want to basically steer emotions, make people choose. it's very testy. you can, you have other examples, like for example, that said, are to go on a respect, realizing i.s.o. right now, why now you have, you can, here's donald trump posing cute photos with the bible again and wine in a certain role. and so what i'm saying is this is using religion in order to divert attention from something else. ok, so let me put that to pavol. so carolina saying basically, you're igniting
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a cultural issue, maybe to distract from other things. so i want your response to that, and i'm also curious, what is your reaction to how much pushback you're getting and why are you doing it? so i d's conspiracy theory since there are actually very different conspiracy theories on the reasoning on the particular moment. and one theory says that this was a planned destruction from the pandemic. another one asserted that this now that we are so we were shown in this surprised somehow, so dismiss, couldn't have been planned. when says that constitutional court, it's political will of the ruling party. the other one is that, so what are your original totals acts in and then you know contradiction. well, all of them can be true at once. that's for sure. for any i actually, i am happy, don't believe any of those. because if we look at the jurisprudence of the court again, and this is,
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this has been very interesting phenomenon over the course of these last couple of weeks that this has been attacked from many angles. but the legal angle that isn't trying to, in the constitution that there is a right to life. and there is no limitation of rights of life also. and on. that also covers the feet. so period of human life is legally protected. so i want to ask you about this, a constitutional try being all, some can say it is actually a puppet for your party. that is denied opposition appointed judges the right to take the seats in the court. earlier this year, the president signed a law forbidding judges from even criticizing government changes to the judiciary around the same time that a number of retired judges of the constitutional tried and all to clear that it had virtually been abolished. so you keep saying that this is coming from the judiciary, but how can you expect people to have any faith and the integrity of the judiciary with all those things i just said,
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i hear and we keep hearing the same of humans. of course when the last place here is actually the week our government took over 5 years ago. there are already were 1st claims of illegality of lack of the legit them is a should not discover many of these elections. and so, when we hear the statement that never asked democratic transition, we have such degree of political control of one party. this is completely foals. this is entirely false if anyone just knows basics of poland nearest continuous history. and i think i'm perfectly sure that kelly knows that. and up until 2015 there was a liberal party in government with president, with old and new supporting it, but just public media also problem. and there was problems with full control also over the coals in the constitutional court. there was a full majority. i think 13 or 14 judges at the time were not going to have. are you saying this is an example of your going on in poland?
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this is just liberal propaganda against because they simply were not never able to accept the results of them. critical action. ok, so what about that carolina pavol saying this is politics. this is the way it is. other parties have done it. other people have done it. what do you say to that? so if i'm using arguments here and, and old a time or every time i say something i hear does i use construct of theories or liberal propaganda. apologies, but it is impossible to have a dialogue this way. now, i am not saying about democracy before 2015 has not been flawed in poland. in fact, i am one of those persons and you know it very well. i believe that have numerously said that some of the beats of the law and justice regarding the rule of law are, are on a bigger scope on the bigger scale flaws that have been present before before 2000
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people seen it. and in fact, if i want to, i want to just get in your exact want you to speak to this as well as your talking about this people knew what the law and justice party or about they knew this, they had an opportunity to not vote for them and they did, do you mean in 2015 or 2019? because the fort to exist and 15 alone just is that and wrong with the slogan. all we are going to change the whole polish judiciary. well, you couldn't, you know, if we don't people know if they believe in the main elements of them and my people know the position of the law and justice party on abortion. yes, of course, i do believe that people, when, of course, when one read the program very carefully of law and justice, then people would perhaps understand that the aim of the law and justice is to reform the judiciary for example. but the medicine that is being used for
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reforming or changing that should be sharing this occasional system, etc, etc. it's simply not working because the only the only structure of performing those reforms is simply changing the people. and this is nothing, and this has nothing to do with reforming institutions. pavol, i want to put something to you about these protests. the deputy prime minister said this about the demonstrations that have been happening and that the demonstrators are committing a serious crime. he called these clashes with protesters, a war despite the fact that they have been largely was unfair. it wasn't him. no, it's actually, it's actually the crime for the protester. this is war, or also forgive my excuse, my french get the most. there's the open language. they have been used. ok,
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so anything. so i meant is that i meant are you saying i'm going to end it now. ok . or so your some some sound my saying get out for quite an action. the quote from the deputy prime minister is he call the ongoing clashes a war despite the fact that they have been largely peaceful. he has called for conservatives to defend poland, and he's basically accusing protestors of committing serious crimes. that is a very odd way to talk about the right of protestors in a democracy. is it not? so when we hear from the very presence that we shoot and they said get out in the much, much harder language. when we see police speak, it's not being gets out. and when the protesters are actually crying, this is war and much they're going to tear gas was used on protesters were. so when we hear the reaction to it was most of all people that were protecting churches from being devastated. and this was a natural reaction. this is
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a very common tactic, those to single out a few isolated incidents when there are thousands of people protesting peacefully that that's, that's a common thing to do and it doesn't really characterize what the president isolated then it's being said by do leaders of these protests and they incentivize people to, violently, they incentivize people to believe it's ok. so what does that does not ising what i want each of the stroke? i want carolina to comment on this, on these protests, there have been significant numbers of women in these, protests carolina leading these protests against their governments for not just about abortion, but for, for greater human rights. this is happening in a lot of countries around the world over the past few years. bellerose turkey,, thailand, sudan, nigeria, even in the u.s., how would you characterize what it is you're seeing with women being on the forefront of so many of these protests and these issues? well, you have to firstly understand that those protests have been changing with time. so
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it is true that at the very beginning of the protests where very much a field with the rage and yes, well go words were there. and i do believe that those were imposed on or, and saw tools, fireworks trauma, the police and so on. i didn't interrupt you so those words were there and people were extremely, if you're us, i would like to underline people because we all say that these are we meant protesting, but i think fuck those are men and women. many young people have joined the protests and the protests be game became something a much more white us for they are subject. so this has become a whole movement of protest against the law and just as government. but if i ask you properly, if there is the march of independence every year in warsaw and some people are
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going peacefully and some people are throwing stones and doing and saying, bugger words. should they them think that all the troops in poland are nationalists and fascists? you surely would say no, because there are some groups that are doing this, but you surely do not think it's acceptable. so i do believe you look at the protests have been changing. i think it's extremely important to grasp that this is a new generation that has been using of course some boger words, but also welcome to was mentioned also some other philosophical names. and i do believe it's extremely important because as far as i heard, comments struck at us with cartoon, skin, also other connotations of law and justice. i do believe that their definition of, politics is from the 1990 s., and they do not understand this new generation that has been raised in a free and independent country, or they sure have the world's attention right now. absolutely. that that will have to be the final word carolina,
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the gora pavol you blonsky. thank you so much for joining us for this discussion. thanks. as climate disasters continue to ravage the earth. indigenous people have been standing on the front lines of the climate crisis suffering from the most devastating impacts of i'm a change from on doris to india. they've been leading the fight against environmental destruction, but leaders heed their call to me to discuss this is indigenous rights activists and economists. when all do, she's a member of the, on a nation and lives on the white earth reservation in minnesota. well, duke has been a 2 time us brain party, vice presidential candidate, and as executive director of the group on earth, the earth forthcoming book is titled to be a water protector and will be released this december when i thank you for joining me on friday. so according to environmental, n.g.o.s, global witness, 2019 was a terrible year for environmental activists around the world. apparently that was
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a record year and the number of them that were killed a 3rd of those fatal attacks targeted specifically indigenous people who make up less than 5 percent of the world's population. can you explain why so many indigenous activists are being targeted and killed because we live in the places where the wild things are. we live in the places where they want to put d.m. projects, mining projects like project. the remaining biodiversity is in order here in chile, then we are on the front lines to protect those because we have nowhere to go to go . that is our life. that is our land where we come from. and so we are targeted because we are out of sight and out of mind, and for frankly, hundreds of years they've been killing if you have people, but the rate has increased dramatically in the last couple of years with these big mining projects and big pipeline project. ok, let's talk about indigenous women specifically in the us and digitas women are murdered rates, more than 10 times higher than the us average. and canada,
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they are 12 times more likely to go missing or killed that any women in the country . why is that long, history of colonialism, a long history of taking indigenous people in indigenous women killing you know, you know, for granted and, you know, we are certainly have been victims of abuse traders for all of these years. we live in isolated areas and then they bring in these big mining projects and pipeline project management. and that's where the elevated rates of violence and rape occur is the result of the fossil fuels industry in the mining companies. just take the case of north dakota where they brought in all of the fracking companies and all of the fractures, and you saw a huge increase in violence in and out in violent crimes, in, in rate. and so there was a very clear connection in north dakota with the fracking industry in the oil industry and engages on violence against women. and so what we know is that south, what happens, you bring it all these guys, all these guys into our communities. and they go after us and let's talk more about
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the exploitation of indigenous peoples and how it does often go hand in hand with the exploitation of the earth we saw with the dakota access pipeline in the u.s. back in 2016. right, so there were protesters sustained protests at this pipeline at standing rock, met with extraordinary police violence. hundreds of people were injured and that there was actually a private company that was hired by the pipeline company to suppress the protests. they were counterterrorism tactics used, and there were people that compare the water protectors to promote jihadists. are you worried about the types of military techniques that are used to suppress what is said billy and protected civilian dissent at home? you know, in, in the case of minnesota line 3 pipeline was just approved as part of the agreement approving line 3 was that ambridge would pay for the police. and so what we have
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now is a comedian multinational corporation who is handing off assistance in the form of actual physical pieces of equipment to the police of minnesota. we've seen the influx of an m. rapid, northern, minnesota, that's a mine resistant, armored personnel carrier. we're deeply concerned after having been veterans of standing right, the very $8000000.00 of military repression. we expect to be unleashed to benefit ambridge in northern, minnesota against thousands of people who are proponents of private life. nobody know them, people have opposed the embers of pipelining. many of us are women and children, and we are expecting them for an assault of military equipment under people. more about and bridge this line 3, as it's called, it is in the state of minnesota where you live and for viewers who don't know what we're talking about. this is a nearly 2000 kilometer crude oil pipeline that's going to link canada to the united states. as you said, it has been met with strong resistance from people in the area who do not want this project. they say it's going to contaminate drinking water in the environment all
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on indigenous territory. tell us more about what your concerns are about how it will affect your community. and are you hopeful that maybe some of these permits that have already been approved can be pulled. this makes no sense to prove a tarzan pipeline in the middle of a pandemic and in the middle of its time when the world is burning. i mean, the fact is that this pipeline is the equivalent of adding 50 new coal fired power plants in a time when the entire west coast have been on fire and climate change related to the after are devastating our world. this should not happen. so when you talk about the fact that this is happening in the middle of a pandemic, there are people who support labor, who union union is rather who would say this actually is the best time because the pandemic is having such a bad effect on the economy. in particular, the teamsters union and the laborers international union, very powerful unions have been very vocal about supporting this project. so what do
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you say to people who say that projects like this create jobs and communities in particular, enbridge has said that this will create about 6500 jobs. what do you say to people who want these jobs? who need these jobs? 4200 workers are being imported from minnesota. those are jobs for minutes. second of all, the long term implications of this pipeline are 23 jobs. i have more people working with me than ambridge will have at the end of the pipe, and this is not a long term job creation 3rd. these are not jobs that you want because they're going to destroy our communities and they're going to destroy our groundwater. and what we really need is the green new deal. what we really need is jobs for long term sustainability for the 4 communities that have been ransacked. the mining and the iron ranges over the oil pipeline era is over and the talked about a green new deal before in 2018. you actually call for an indigenous led green new deal, and you also interest joe biden for president. joe biden, though, has explicitly stated he does not support a green new deal that he would not place
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a ban on fracking. so what needs to happen to a change, a green new deal? this seems like it is going to be uphill battle well 1st, we need a little more light movement. by politicians. i mean what we need to solutions and not more problems. and what we need within that is, is, is to build some kind of thought idea of just as a matter of what the green new deal is. in the meantime, you have tribes and, and communities across the country, making the green do new deal. i mean, the red lake reservation just added 200 kilowatts of solar. my travels that is 200 kilowatt, the solar, you know, the food system, they're being transformed into local food systems. and that's all part of the green new deal. that's not the legislative part, but in washington, and in ottawa, they need to make infrastructure for people not soil companies. they need to protect us from the ravages of climate change and improve and protect our health not jeopardize. you know, this is an opportunity. i like what arundhati roy has always could refer to as pandemic, as, as portable pandemic as portal. never, you know,
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pandemic forced us to change who we are. this is what is no different. in this moment. we have a chance to change this world because we are already changing. and as we look ahead, let us be the people that make renewable energy. let us be the people that you know, make local food. let's make a real, a real just transition. so you're talking about a shift and you're saying that the politicians need to shift from a fossil fuel economy to a sustainable economy. but, i mean, let's talk numbers also what you will hear, the american petroleum institute claims that oil, natural gas contribute to 8 percent of the u.s. g.d.p. . there's a lot of money and what i'm trying to say and, and the oil and gas industry. so is it about a shift in the way people think of capitalism? well, you know, 1st of all exxon is no longer in the top 10 of the fortune 500 is all tech companies. the oil companies have fallen out of favor in the international world and they're, you know, they're not the future. the future is in this just transition. the future is that
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renewables in the future is going, you know, technology and food just so you know, they could talk about how much money they have, but their money is declining, minus $38.00 a barrel of oil is nothing. they taught us an economics class, right. and some of the writing is on the wall and what we need of politicians to see and be visionary include rages not to be taken dictates from multinational oil companies. but i mean, you know, people are laughing at the united states and saying, who's a banana republic now. you know, i feel like if you're banana republic, if the multinational corporations tell you what to do, you know, i want to go back to something that you said that's been and that stuck with me when you talk about how indigenous people are on the front lines we talked about some of the military tactics that are being used. are you ever just afraid? you know, i'm concerned, i pray a part of it. i cannot and i, and i take my own security measures as i can, but you have, you know, i live in an area we call the geek north in northern minnesota. you know,
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embrace has added has gas to a fire out. has the governor, you know, what we need is a demilitarization, what we need is peace and not, and not war. and yes, i'm concerned about my own personal safety of the safety of many, many indigenous women and other women who are fighting this pipeline. but we intend to stand strong and courageous because our time is now and their time is over on the nola to thank you so much for your time that 9 year and 5, we appreciate it, which thank you. and that is our show up front will be back next week.
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