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i don't saying all we want but when you go to the core of the problem you feel that they're not tough enough when it affects for example the finances when he affects the t.v. scheduling and perhaps us for and will come out and say you know what we're not going to take this anymore. the end p.s.g. would be back at the park to promise to finish the game on wednesday you wait for will be hoping at the very least that the remainder of the match will be played out without incident so he'll malik. it's good tevin the style of adrian figure here in doha the headlines on al-jazeera at least 5 people have been killed in post-election violence in gaza police say that 61 incidents of violence have been reported since monday's presidential and parliamentary votes official results have not yet been released al-jazeera is on that address is that today when we were supposed to be getting final results of
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well the democratic republic of congo is sliding into a new turmoil the ruling coalition has fallen apart and the president is threatening to dissolve parliament so what's the fallout from this power struggle in this african country this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm a homage i'm joined congolese president felix just ahead a pledge to build a strong nation when he was elected last year but his reforms have been challenged
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by supporters of former leader joseph kabila who shares power with him just ahead he has scrapped the ruling coalition saying a new one will help him push through his agenda he is seeking to flip the majority in the legislative body in his favor to be able to do just that the president has threatened to dissolve parliament hold new elections and has acted to remove a speaker of the house his decision has sparked chaos in the assembly and the political crisis is threatening stability in the r.c. just ahead he says the move comes after weeks of consultations with political parties. so that's the one who's on the coastal taishan has resulted in the rejection of the coalition between the come from kolkata and the heading for change by an overwhelming majority of the sec conclusion comes off to 2 years of tireless efforts to self-sacrifice to preserve the essentials within the coalition. the proca be allowed common front for congo or f.c.c. considers to secure this decision illegal. this is not to the f.c.c.
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notes that the unilateral conclusions drawn by the president of the republic seriously violate the constitution and serve as a pretext to liquidate established democratic institutions through the establishment of a dictatorial regime at the service of postal power. joseph kabila rule d r c for 18 years before stepping down around 2 years ago his favorite presidential candidate lost to felix just a kennedy in the long delayed 2018 elections but camilla's power was retained when his allies won a parliamentary majority in the same vote just ahead they formed a coalition government with camillus common front for congo after assuming power last year major disagreements arose between the coalition partners leading to political deadlocks in the past 6 months they have differed over security electoral process and constitutional court appointments to name but a few. all right let's
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bring in our guests in goma we have thomas fasc senior democratic republic of congo researcher of human rights watch most of all is researcher at the center for research on the congo he joins us from washington d.c. now vanda wall deputy project director for central africa international crisis group she joins us from running in in the netherlands welcome to each of you combine how fragile is the current political situation in d.r. c n n considering the unresolved issues from the 2018 presidential election do you believe that something like we're seeing now was inevitable. the free level framing is really important in december 2018 coalition must want to vote the elected leader and the result not reflect the will of the stress 'd of the college the are likely winner was declared the president still exist to katie
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and what we know now that there has been secret deals between camilla and felix which was signing a lot of kenya stuff africa and egypt creating this form of so-called specific transition but because of that because of the will of the proposal on this and 2 we created a constitutional crisis we have a winner or a presidential election who does not have any strong power even in the parliament any shop our suggestions of the republic and he's quite liberal was really acquired as is being seen where bill remained in power and 2000000 alice. if you control the situation. completely difficult for phillips around the country the only solution to that and i hope the call this president listening to many people
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are listening is to listen to the will of the congolese people in 96 when you want to lead a protest move by democratically and i believe in 2020 we can do the same by listening to the people and having leaders that represents the people so that we by the constitutional crisis we have now like how likely is the president as a candidate will be successful in forming a new majority coalition. it will be quite difficult for him to form a new maturity in parliament because he will need substantial support off the f.c.c. permission that holds most of the seats in parliament so in order for to security to form a new majority he not only needs to convince members of the opposition so mariska to jump down ben but also members of the f.c.c. to join newman general thomas if this were to become a protracted crisis how much could this paralyze the government and how much
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worse could things get. this is definitely a risk as dan jet that if the crisis. gets any longer obviously there will be you know popular discontent and growing anger at the. paralysis of state already remember that during those last few weeks of consultations it basically brought the government action to a halt so there is an urgent need to find a peaceful way out of this crisis in a way that. a government can be. acting reforms towards building at the root of your towards respecting human rights and ending impunity in
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a country that. this president has to get it have enough support from powerful politicians and from military leaders in order to be able to pull off forming a new coalition. i mean forming a new coalition will not change the fact that the will of the people not being sensible let's just back from work let's say 2 days able to convince the opposition politically or militarily there is to come to support i do not know how that will address the 22000000 congolese war 'd at the verge of starvation according to the world food programme i do not the hard disk addresses the issues in the system properly are seen thousands of congolese have died i mean just people security track or just publish that report where the stated that about 2127 currently have died in the past 20 months which is war than the last 20 months of
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arches of camilla so we have it's serious material conditions of the coolest being violent the congolese are suffering a discipline it's happening because 'd the petition for the republic has been actually been distributed to an elite has no interest of the homeless people i argue that because felix just came in last the credibility from the college people it's hard even for the coolest people to come i think eggs but some of the proposal that he's put forward which i think can deal with for such as having another election knowing that the 2018 was very disputed is a way in the right direction but what's more important is decisive action that you'll have will hold people like dan gottlieb annabelle for taking steps into the state economy and creating a mining company suffer a lot meals about those we are rest corrupt. government officials
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living in the eggs rescue of the who's listed in the justice department's report. haha chips as far as receiving corrupt london for bribery this is a low threshold legal case in the united states. then the killer and as well ready ready. relief that was decisive action is actions will allow the congolese people to trust in his will to really transform the country for a newcomer if you doesn't come even close to those. recommendations that are to live to control the country mckellar the united nations envoy to the d.r. c warned that the threat of this political gridlock poses you know it's
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a huge threat to the political gridlock poses to the country's security and economic situation what are some of the replications that the country could face. i think surya's reagan stating that because of the. political gridlock between she security and kabila there has not been a lot of progress on the political level and konami one it is because just security has been distracted by political affairs in kinshasa and i think you can see that when you look at events and what's happening in the east where violence has increased over the past few months. so security has also because his focus. keeping the coalition together or working with camilla he has failed to work on improving the economic conditions in the dear city so you see that it is past become increasingly difficult for the
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population to to benefit from wealth that has been acquired by natural resources in a d. or c. etc i mean i am not sure if i understood your question completely right as in representation so if i should touch upon something else just don't know that i don't know that that answer sufficed for the question that i asked thomas let me ask you how much political clout does former president kabila have he is a sinner or for life is he essentially considered to be the only game in town when it comes to getting things done politically. thing that was certainly true last year when the deal was made between just kitty and himself you know he has retained control of the government's control of the parliament's control of most provincial governments and of the security apparent us i think that 2 years down the line and mounting political crisis. it is now
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a sort of question mark how much of all that power can be lost he'll holds dairies the possibility of this event him he still holds most of that power and i think we are going to see whether that's true or not in the coming weeks in the coming days even but it's also possible that some of the audience either parliamentarians or some of the support says you know may have switched to the sides because they see that these could mission is actually going nowhere and that they need a new majority. to have a proper government that will be able to enforce meaningful reforms so i think that's a question mark at moment but what we seeing in the last few days is not the polarization between the 2 sides is at its peak and we've seen you know trash is in parliament
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spitting supports as if she's catty and supporters of the community neutrally throwing chairs at each other and we also hearing a lot of you know hatred language and extremist language from one side to another and vice versa so there's a there's a sort of. really sort of dangerous climate that ease that has been brewing for some months now and it's not entirely clear how . and intends to to diffuse the tension and when the katrina has any intention to also try to defuse that tension or not kembali it i want to take a step back for a moment to try to explain the root of this a bit to our audience it seems that tensions between f.c.c. and ca c h really erupted out into the open in july and it revolved around the issue of the
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appointment of new judges to d.r. c's top court what was what was at the root of that millicent were threats of friendly to really show. up camilla control the situations before the presidential elections to make sure the course additional court judges appointed will pledge allegiance to hear your italy in the parliament when we look at the national assembly we have 500 members of parliament 350 of that are from the effie. when we look at the sell it we have a 108 senators 92 senators in the senate after on the f.c.c. we have 26 provinces 21 gov 31 progression of government are controlled by camilla and about 20 of those 'd got at the governor of this province of our from
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community region we have a military like a blast to control and actually currently we have a military force a militia of 2500 soldiers 'd they are paid by the government right now to protect him so he controls the spitter situation and he can actually move in some shape or form not. try to do was to include 3 new constitutional court judges because the game of the election of $23.00 will be played at a 'd level usually in the question usually called and also in the electoral commission so he has made sure to win introduce 3 judges which could be i was not happy about and they also introduce a new president on the. 'd electoral commission clearly showing that everyone is preparing for 20231 of them in the before colleagues and i remember a couple has been in power for already 2 terms so if we are already talking about
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2023 it is likely but just a couple it's going to run again and we're going to try to interpret the constitution much differently or have someone we can trust to be in power so by extension there is a power struggle from philip trying to assert his power when he does not have and kabila continuing to maintain the illicit network that we have built for the past 2 decades and in the final analysis the question of justice is very important in a land but that doesn't quite get caught for the issues to end the look of course his nobel peace prize it calls for the international tribunal for the combo to try the crimes that have taken place we have to call it the 15 people who have committed months in the past was leading the country and then a professor of justice. melaka the african union has now called on the d.r.s. these leaders to work to preserve peace and stability what are the regional
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implications that we be looking at here if things continue to deteriorate in the r.c. well you see that since assuming office just again he really focused on mediating within the region so he tried to bring 70 to ugandan president and president obama . to bring them together and what was behind the struggle between these 2 men was allegations of support to armed groups in eastern d r c so there is a big risk that when the violence escalate or the political situation in. in kinshasa escarpments that there are also implications in the east that could for instance be because political leaders such as and she security activate spoilers they have in the field in the east or because.
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the violence continues to increase in the east so the regional implications will be important so i understand the cold by the african union also because she's to katie will as of january or february next year head chair of the african union so it is interesting to see how he will try to. increase stability especially in the eastern part of the r.c. thomas the head of the u.n. stabilization mission has expressed concern over the situation in eastern congo saying that in security gray violations of human rights and displacements continue to affect civilians notably women and children how dire is the situation there. it's pretty dire in congo you have different pockets constructs throughout the region whether it is north south. korean and beyond and just take south for example you have
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a very 1000000 displaced people. and as a result of of the many countries in that line and attacks almost daily does been a little bit of it in the attacks of the last few weeks but it's coming back and you can tell that tensions are running high and that again it's civilians who are paying the heavy price it's not only displacement that you know the population news was suffering from many other abuses with the reaches them be chains and the rest from i'm groups will sometimes by the congolese. security forces military troops or the police but also abduction kidnapping for ransom and. women still suffering
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from sexual violence and sexual assault. this has been going on for years and yes now and it's a conflict that. repeats itself some parts of the region then you have over $100.00 groups you know still active in that region and as. colleagues have just said you know each time that you have a protracted. political crisis. the repercussion. what. then immediately or in the me time. something could be knighted that said there is a war you've got the longer the political crisis continues. to move or repercussions that will be in the east with the population paying the price kamali do you
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believe it is possible that we could see a negotiated end to this crisis and if so how would that come about it is possible for the crisis to actually be negotiated for pace of the missing new york city i mean what i would like to see is the return to the 28 in the elections holding a new election will really help in getting the credibility because the hollywood scene forward is to have the population of the people to trust in the democratic process so calling for you election is one second the call for justice is very critical the question is will continue to see is because the crimes are yesterday has not been dealt with over 6 new comedies people have died in the past 2 decades along i stayed for describes the creation of an international tribunal for the recommendation of the un looking after such a report published on the the before us 2000 that is critical of this time but the
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macweb of the peace process called for it and congolese around the world are calling for the tribunal to be put in place if those 2 things actually put in place a reelection are running again of the elections so that the people can trust in the democratic process and krishna which are built for the r.c. we have a path to peace in the us now look at how do you think the international community would react if president the kiddie does indeed try and hold new elections. i think it will be very difficult for chief security to organize new elections because it mobi a very costly exercise and as she saw in 2018 it took quite a long time to organize those elections in fact they were pushed back twice so for the international community i don't think they would consider elections the right
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way forward at the moment. organizing them is costly as i just said but also elections were held in 2018 the results were indeed contested but i think for international does it is more important now to underline the importance for the respect for the rule of law to have strong state institutions to make sure that the 2 political actors the main one so kabila and she's the katie find their way out of this crisis a political one so encourage them to have a dialogue to have conversations not necessarily with the with the goal already intention to keep the coalition together but to make sure that. the crisis does not ask and so as i just pointed out to avoid that the the political crisis becomes a military one you just asked for the fact who for who controls the security forces who controls the army i think it is very important to look at the next few days and
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weeks what's going to happen with the military and the armed groups in the east and avoid the pain that these activists will play a role in the weeks to come all right well we've run out of times we're going to have to leave the conversation there thanks so much to all of our guests thomas vesey come bali was heavily and melika van the wall and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story or me my material and the whole team here i forgot thanks ily. going.
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