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hereon rule of xena bettina ben ali their anger and frustration at how things have turned out is clear. diminishment life was really very beautiful and that ben ali we have a very beautiful life we lived happily together we loved each other we used to have everything now we don't have anything only crime and of a bad thing. the economy here is expected to contract by 6.5 percent this year that's a significant challenge for any country but there's arguably more pressure to get through the downturn in tunisia where its jasmine revolution is often held up as an example of how popular uprisings can succeed in the middle east bernard smith al-jazeera city boos eat. and how he did it in doha with the headlines on al-jazeera french president emmanuel mccraw has tested positive for covert 90 he'll self isolate and continue
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to work remotely the prime minister is reported to have tested negative or has more from paris. and the question is how many other people day to morrow back will come into contact with who may also have to go into isolation within their lease say within the cabinet he had a cabinet meeting for example on wednesday we know that the spanish prime minister sanchez has also been placed in isolation because he came into contact with a matter back row in paris and in a meeting behind closed doors earlier this week about omar also attended the 60th anniversary of the o.e.c.d. here in paris where of course he mingled with many people as well as the e.u. summit in brussels at the end of last week so you can imagine a lot of people will now have to be tested to see whether or not they are also contact cases whether they also test positive. the u.s. has registered to coronavirus records in
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a single day the number of new deaths and new cases figures from johns hopkins university surely 3600 people died cools to quarter of a 1000000 people were infected in a single day. south africa has recorded more than 10000 new infections over the past 24 hours several countries across the continents are bringing in new covert restrictions and the u.s. is expected to unseal charges against another suspects in the 1988 lockerbie bombing that killed 270 people a libyan intelligence officer is accused of making the bomb that blew up a u.s. airliner over the scottish town of lockerbie he's reportedly custody in libya and is expected to be extradited to the u.s. but that is your up to date stay with us on al-jazeera inside stories next.
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book a how rahm's mass abduction this group has yet again claimed the kidnapping of a number of students in nigeria after more than a decade of the girl be dealt with and going to be defeated this is inside story. hello welcome to the program. nigeria's book rage much of the world into a 1014 when it abducted schoolgirls in chibok a few years. operational was launched against the group it's claimed responsibility
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for a similar attack hundreds of school boys were kidnapped this time in the northwest . the attack in that scene or state was initially blamed on band these groups that have carried out kidnaps for run some in the area hundreds of students are missing while others escaped boko haram says it had targeted the school to fulfill a long held aim or stopping western education the government has denied negotiating with the kidnappers and some students have been rescued the parents of the missing children have pleaded for very turn. your back and now i think in the end i said thank you we have shed so many tears our hearts are grieving and we don't know what to do we're tired of talking we're appealing to the government to help us and to help secure our children from the hands of these people and that's near and that's going to honestly i don't trust the claim of book of horror it is
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a lie because you could is used to making such life just to confuse people i don't trust that in the situation is not what you said it is. about why you know what and to begin to there's no way i can measure my anger now this is the 4th day we've come here in the morning to the school we can't sleep we can't eat because of our missing children when we see security men moving back and forth it gives us hope of finding our children. the attack marks a shift in berko her arms area of activity and raises questions over the government's ability to deal with the armed group present with her mother what harry has repeatedly claimed the rebels have been defeated has now under increased pressure to address the security crisis ministries report from a bullshitter. the return of 15 more students was greeted with leave and cuts and however there are conflicting reports as to how they made it to safety some reports suggest that they were rescued by the military others are insisting that the
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children made it to safety after escaping their abductors meanwhile the kids in the state government insisted that it's not negotiating with kidnappers after the abductors of the schoolchildren walk in tight a few days ago now there are concerns in northwest nigeria that the insurgency is now spreading far and past now far away from its traditional pretty base in northeastern nigeria to the north west to the existing problems in the northwest of the country where ben 3 and kidnappings have sucked several communities dozens of communities in fact in zone for our county and state have been affected over the past years. for inside story. joining us our guests in. his edge of political and
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security analyst politica in london. is a nigeria affairs. series called black as in revolution and in it in a delhi he is a research fellow at the university of denver center for african studies welcome to you a big way is this attack that book is trying to further expand in different parts of nigeria particularly the northwestern part of the country. the same year yes i would see the recent attack in concord. local government in us nothing so just stronger the book where i was the most true things of ability to carry out attacks. other than not traditionally it's tough because you know nothing to do to not put off and endure the issues metion
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and just security agents are facing there has come from banditry we. are all connected the groups i would sit. numbering over of a 100 because of our own kind of criminal. activities not organized in the we were crimes organize business that ideology or trying to impose any policy on this to is what we look around shifting towards if not worse then do is sure that they are the how did that the most you think you knew in new on em boudin stunts india is the insurgency company it insisted mind you last friday is our park hopping where the president was in the states that's that's the most true they said to live off confident we've not seen from rome where the new president moved such a large security center out several. hundreds of security men from the army to
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civil defense to police and while he was in the state in his hometown ok. attack on that demonstrated lot of confidence from if that's the case of the let me go to any historically speaking book a holiday has been operating in the northeastern part of the country particularly in borno year and now they're moving to katsina why i could see in him particular. well i think sea attack is well firstly in terms of what was just said i think. and attacking at ciena which is the president's home state is very strong and clear message to nigerian government about ok around strength at present i think also seeing a return to an attack on schools there and then attack on education and thinking about the sort of previous attacks which we saw with the kidnapping of m schoolgirls and cheer up i think what we're seeing again is an attempt to draw the
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government into a long and protracted. long and protracted struggle in particular also. drawing the government back into negotiations so president haris out at the last election that he would refuse to negotiate back or out as there are a force who don't want peace and i think an attack of such confidence which shows strength but also an attack which draws on the remote a very strong and emotive group with a nigerian society is likely to bring the government back to think to go shooting people in. i mean this is similar to the 2014 attack your son fighters all motorbikes they kidnapped the children they meet at a teller somebody point and they disappear in the desert when you do this i'm sorry but there's no other explanation but that security forces have completely failed to
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see their way actually if you. remove. i think full. these. terms which of our label you prefer to use in friends who have been tested that. testing them i took against the nigerian security forces and. come out of a cloud tops are in each and each and each occasion and that's proven to. each and each each and every one of those very separate occasions is just a very just increase that really just acted as as it improved incentives basically for them to continue on this on this path and there's nothing sure that they will stop anytime see unless there's a radical who lost she church infrastructure in nigeria but then.
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and this is something that i'm a big reason only to turn a few minutes ago it's quite interesting and a rather telling the fact that the toxic place while the president was on holiday a few a few hours away from cantor entirely in his her town of daraa who for those who are not familiar with the geography of our north was a nigeria. town kyra is as is daraa where the president term hills from and where he's currently on holiday was made in and through the heart of the adoption and or other abduction of his skill to clarice in that particular part of the country sees or lot. just have the entire situation is perceived or rather how the person of the president. but the language
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or his or his she is handling of the security situation of the last 5 or so years is ok is this being interpreted a big way i mean book a house on has been widely seen as the biggest threat to the nigerian state for many years and you would assume that security forces along with the police and the army should have enough intelligence to intercept communications and look into the development of the evolution of the group have enough equipment to be able to move around and tackle the problem they seem to be completely disconnected with a new reality which seems. to be now shifting in your own country and she's basically book flexing its military muscles more than ever you are. really as good manager are on to talk about 30 or in about that it position in the group up there is an index that was just released in the uk tax have been incessant in this business of 17 this is we saw on
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a park that our merry look will go local government ng a boost is good for you to direct some of the accused and then last friday's attack in can carry and then it will on sunday program attacked in 2 more indeed. in the jury probably the arbiter or pretty we didn't lend you out on our own and your other brother it's shocking even after years of investment into the contract is so densely our counterterrorism operation well i think you know just security it particularly the military is again is fighting against it and this sort of a sudden we have to understand that it is sort of its orders or it's symmetric warfare as this really east is particularly challenging to win mandira lacks the kind of experience to arc to fight it comes out that are. on the sword and. any enemy because we've been doing this for about 10 years now this that it
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doesn't and then i really picked up you know about 2011 i'm sure but the missing experience is the problem and also be a little capacities is also missing when at the back of us them talking about where point where point i'm telling them to learn about. competence if i may interrupt you that and go to me this has been going on for 10 years nigeria is not mali or book enough fossil nigeria is one of the richest nations in the african continent its defense spending is now. he has all the means has all the know how it has all the connections with the international community to be able to cope with this problem president and the leaders before him have always been saying book has been technically defeated it doesn't seem to be the case what's wrong here well i think firstly going back to the point about
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a book or her flexing its muscles in the president's home state bihari made a centerpiece of his past election campaign and for a long time afterwards people accused him of playing the blame game in terms of blaming. jonathan regime and for not being able to tackle the. issue i think there and number of things at play is so fast. as the previous speaker sat the symmetric warfare said imagine segment taken for example where in the northern region and number of states. communications were cut off in order to attempt to intercept or prevent iran from being able to communicate but that poses the government in a double bind in terms of also losing support of the local populations where they're affected by measures like that there is a little support for some of the imaginary measures that the government have put in place i think the other side to the story as well and this is come up in recent months in terms of other protest movements within the country around the end
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sasnett you know what we've seen is that the issue of corruption which is endemic to security forces not just the police force but also the military in nigeria has meant that the. military despite investment from the state nigeria's military forces accounts or a 3rd of nigeria's security spending but also from foreign foreign governments the government has been unable to a tackle this issue precisely because of skimming off the top and the military for me is woefully underprepared in terms of dealing with some of the. challenge is any daily now since goodluck jonathan and all the way to words. we've been hearing the same narrative the government is allocating enough financial support of the army and security forces but each time this saying we are under equipped to deal and tackle
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a group like boko haram well the only way to interpret this is basically corruption money is not going away supposed to be going absolutely and. i think i think and he's already sort of. point to the students who. mean the ministries are essential. corruption that's seized into almost every fiber. the way the way the way governance is. as is done in nigeria and of course on the military is not the exact truth as sensitive. if we if we compare if we could if we could we compare the narrative has been put by the government regarded in military spending where if there is being been pushed by bye bye bye bye bye soldiers on the ground in northeastern nigeria despite attempts to stifle the
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thought stifled their voices i think i mean i think the difference is this is usually quite quite clear. or stock because. i remember if you months or so ago or. a military official who was demoted essentially fool and i think he was also suspended for being recorded to say that the military's not able they've been able to the foot took the opportunity for prosecutor of the of the fight against double round because. of the naturally under-funded essentially and so i think that tells us everything we need to know but then again us but it's been an issue sure but then i get a military option it's said the way out of this particular problem of the way.
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yes it is michel yes agri would do to us because of the issue of corruption is the number that was in the but there's something about military capacity the even if we correct for the issue of corruption how what and where points if where problems competence of course capability the manager has not been able to meet the competence demands to defeat to defeat terrorism started if you look at this what they did being employed now with the codicil park i'm struck that you are measuring busily did it talk to kowtow to the trade of where it we drew it forces from hinterland communities in-born are concentrated only support camps their battle even goes into the communities vulnerable to attack and a good example is what happened is about mary. this morning we're going to a community on this what are people and who are the duct strategy whereby you pull
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troops back into into our cars and treat them least be found is vulnerable and reduces reaction time it can carry the attack on qaeda took place last friday happened about just before 10 o'clock did you want to comp the saturday before christmas and there are security forces able to move into into the decision of the criminal that is a huge time if they're after going to kill more people who could have done that all of the night so yes we can talk about corruption that's a major pirkei i see or hear the problem there is that there are bigger issues of competence i've got my capacity i'm also struck to just play it up is not just working in the favor ok of the manager on an ng should we consider me a purely ideological organization or should we more look into what many other people have not been focusing on which is the ethnic aspect of this
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particular organization yeah and i think. i think with back to her there is sort of ideological bent and i think that's part of the reason why i disagree that a purely military solution is going to solve the issue in particular i think even if you were able to militarily defeat branches as we've seen in the developments in able to terror has very easy or spent organizations to our relatively quickly so far is the ideology and i think that feeds into or is fed into our time by the treatment of political issues within one theory especially the lens of ethnicity and i think at times members of the government have been guilty of or complicit in the reconfiguring of political tensions or economic tensions within the lens of this it's one thing to remember about her arm is this is an organization that's met with i sell on the basis of refusing not to refusing to not
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target muslim civilians so our aspect of it can't be forgotten i think also that at the end of the day when time when challenging and tackling a force like this you have to think the ideological level you have to think at the military level but also you have to think about what the consequences have been in terms of the masses placement of people huge areas which are incredibly poor and extent to which at least people of honorable to willing into these ideologies any. this was founded book a hollow in 2002 by mohammed use of who wanted to restore a sense of islamic piety to the nigerian society 2009 who was killed 2009. sickout takes over the group later would pledge allegiance to the slum extend it further expand the canaries who are the backbone of the movement
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much well entrenched in borno yobe and the mara it seems that we have a point where the nigerian government and the international community have to rethink the way to move forward to deal with boko haram. absolutely and. i think with chris which will turn and he's been up to the support he's been trying to make which is. the summary. that started this this is a this is an organization that started as an ideological struggle except terry in movement essentially despite whatever it's mushroomed into nar which which might be quite difficult to sort of arm to to define and through the toes of we cannot we cannot group to overcome this with just. by just simply relying on military or militaristic tactics essentially it's
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some fundamentally the. idea the idea as ideology that dries book around that has to be defeated if this if there's any her who peace for long term peace to be restored she choose to particularly move east and moving on my journey. of all that where you've been talking about the military option and the need to tackle this issue from the rose the french are leading an operation in sub-saharan africa particularly in mali and you see the results there the religious groups are still operating the further expanding to places like work in a fossil they lake charles base in countries have come together to defeat boko haram it backfired not simply in different parts of the border particular between nigeria and come come rotha. we have a new groups moving that expanding affiliated with or with the islamic
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state if the nigerian were to address the root causes particularly mismanagement it doesn't matter of public funds and corruption could that be the way out of this particular crisis which is widely seen as an existential threat to your country yes if can because if you look if you look at the in this is when socially this is in the indian not you you get a sense of us a wire it is a breeding ground for terrorism for instance meant you have environmental 1000000 people live in abject poverty it's the sense of that 90000000 reset in the not the only level 1000000 children out of school in india majority of which are india not include many of the other colleagues here would know about that on my degree and on all of that if when you have those kind of feel goes. people concentrated in a particular region somewhat early and forgotten by the states it is very
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easy for groups that were quite armed that i deliberately driven capitalizing on these governments to recruit and i and i must and i must in support from the people until either stand there is the look of little tense or court for who are. not on the main gear so a lot of people see them also us defend us. because you have many communities that only a good that are not engaged by the federal government and who look look a government doesn't it was in our parliament they have no going back to their communities thank you here is even the governor of borno state i've not been to his home town for years so how do you how do people who feel you know. supported or unrepresented said by the state this is another ticket with a force that the governor isn't it could not be fun thank you both the us is sure how more disconnect there is when it comes to government government officials and
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people who would have supposed to be lead i see a point of agree if any or look at areas any delhi. i really appreciate thank you for your time and for your insight and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com for slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story from me. and the whole team here i phone or. i.
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