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a mixture of sadness and. with the election behind us the republican party dumptruck your weekly take on us politics and that's the bottom of. my after the ok you're watching the screen well today's episode long time coming the reckoning with race in america this is the latest book by michael eric dyson how i like all really great havoc on the stream baptist minister right into iraq onto her what have i left off the least of things to introduce you by your titles that you halt f o f friend of for me. excellent as they start so kids excited to have me here on the strength we have audience 25 minutes of michael eric dyson if you don't have a question for he now you will have in a few minutes jumping to jumping to the live comments i need to be top of the show

with michael eric dyson who that wish i stopped by the mike i took a picture of the front cover inside the front cover of your book and inside the back cover of your book and it just struck me i'm just going to let people have a look at this i'm requests and then you see these names emmett till eric garner saunders and. i wrote face for you how the cheap pick how did you pick this extraordinary line up. well 1st of all what an honor and an extraordinary privilege and pleasure it is to be here with you i chose those particular people because i wanted to make certain points and the points i wanted to make had to adhere to at least more broadly speaking the circumstances. an outline of their existence especially their their deaths so if i want to speak about the way in which there was a white set of black futures i wrote about brianna taylor i wrote

a letter to brianna table and these are letters written to zs people not about them to further objectify them or exploit them for book sales and dollars i want to speak directly to them in a kind of you know roundtable with the ancestors recently arrived for the most part so briana taylor allowed me to talk about white said her life was stolen metaphorically that represents the condition the plight in predicament of black people ritual arge our futures were stolen from africa brought here to north america in this case the 13 colonies then what became the united states of america and then absorbed and reproduced for the purposes of dominant culture then i wrote to you know eric garner because i wanted to talk about george floyd in the way in which the blue plague police brutality was devastating our communities i wanted to write to sandra bland because i want to talk about white comfort the degree to

which many white brothers and sisters maintain and preserve their comfort at the expense of black life so these particular things drove the people i chose so that i could have a conversation with them out loud about issues that continue to vex us right now. michael so many of the names that you mentioned are people that we know because of videos and viral videos is a quote is a way you describe these videos in your book consider these videos visual autopsies of the slow death of justice when you were putting these stories together when you revisited the stories there's a lot of detail in them did you see it utterly transcripts watch of videos of over and over again how do you even do that. yes that's a great question yes of the all of the above i read transcripts i looked at videos as painful as they are and i'm glad you brought that up because i'm an older person right i'm 62 years old so i'm technically heading toward you know senior citizen

very. but that's are a heap of fish out there with public keep your seat number. is that i'm a generation where we didn't have you know the possibility of talking about safe spaces or speaking about triggers or talking about the degree to which we get self care these are things we learn from younger generations mostly to our you know benefit and advantage but having said that i think sometimes we protect ourselves from the trauma yes we don't want to be retrenchments hazari that demised over and over again but i don't think we can afford not to know what these valiant souls endured what they grapple with in their last minutes to see the snuff films in the pranab graphy of black death the homemade cinema of black demise of black pathology that is projected on to the world the pathology of blackness and the pathology of

chilling black people i wanted to feel that white let it wash over me let me understand what amar was feeling as he was running away from a truck behind him and 2 people in front of him white vigilantes we think we're trying to hunt him down like an animal and so i wanted us to feel that so i read those transcripts i i look at those tapes i felt the horror of the terror of the trauma the grief that all of us as black people and hopefully american citizens and hopefully global citizens felt when we spied what was going on in those states and then those transfers. to mean a sensual legacy as a question the michael haven't seen have a the entire book still. has the actually when he and i who most men who was with the top they all being a black man. you know if it takes right

writing and rewriting i think the best writer is a real writer so you've got to put it on paper you have to let it be cathartic you've got to let it come out of you the chaos the cataclysm the hurt the pain the trauma the agony and then you begin to shape it into a narrative that will serve your broader purposes i want to serve the purpose of illuminating their lacks broadly illuminating the context of their demise and so i wanted to get it out there emotionally but then i wanted to drain it back in just a bit in order to for the narrative to serve this broader purpose but i didn't want to be shorn of emotion i didn't want to be lacking in the existential angst that drove me to a certain degree as i looked at these video recordings and as a black man i couldn't be objective i don't have an archimedean point of object to it the outside the flow of human history i'm right there implicated in it and so i want the writer the reader to fill that power with me as a writer michael and a black woman who lives in america he makes

a really long time these books that to me i need you to those particular people who were impacted by police from tyranny he died because of his potential violence in america. but the pets bits that lelie spent to meet this for instance is an idea mclean wants details about his death that i didn't know the you told me i didn't realize what he said as he was talking to the police i didn't realize that he was a vicodin and seen the videos of on so charming what an amazing young man would be to learn as she dug deeper into the stories the stories that you turn from headlines into people like you and i who live in america right now yes thank you so much for that question i discovered like you discover you know i heard about him i knew that he was a young black man 23 years old arguably on the spectrum but a highly sensitive deeply and profoundly intelligent and caring and empathetic

person and then like you i learned that he was a bigot i learned that he said you know he wouldn't hurt a fly i weren't that while he was being arrested while he was being assaulted while he was being victimized and traumatized unnecessarily all of what 56140 some pounds a young man who was a threat to no one who begged for his life literally he tried to reason and you know rationalize his existence with these cops he tried to say i didn't if i was you i know that you have a tough job i see what you're going through i know what you're doing is i'm all of the yes and none of this what we usually call in black circles respect ability politics let us convince white people by the depths of our character by the pedigree of our personality that we are not worthy of the mistreatment in misbehavior to which they will arbitrarily and often fatally subject us none of

that worked and this was the especial horror of looking at a story so i learned all of that and looking at sandra bland you know trying to fight for her own life to fight for her right. to be able to speak up and speak back to an offending cop enough since of cops who mistreated her or rather nastily and then 2 days later here she is hanging on or jail cell so i wanted people to discover what i discovered in looking at m r and looking at that entire 4 minute or deal and how he left the home that he was merely looking at black your reality is criminalized in this country and i wanted to put that front and center and talk about how there was a kind of a reversion to the sleeve plantation where you don't even own your own body i wanted to project these real archetypes of black existence and identity into the struggles that these contemporary black martyrs endured to show how we have made

progress on the one hand but we're repeating the very thing from the history on the other. we had so many conversations on the screen this year every friend and march through towards the end of the war about what happened this year what happened in 2020 you could in your reckoning with race in america and i found on page 66 of your book such a beautiful way to sum up beautiful but ugly way to sum up what happened why are some people including the south and this is the reckoning we read from the bottom of page $66.00 the end of the hour for me. to do that if we picture the impact of each of those elisa losses on black america as a punch in a prize fight the nature of these deaths was a body blow to black justice each shooting was a stinging jab to our spirits each killing was a right across to our emotional stability each choking was

a left hook to our concerted efforts to push you here and then after all those years after all this incalculable loss the knockout punch was a bruise an uppercut so our minds delivered is george floyd's coldly brutal death. how long did it take you to come up with this is what happened this is my paps and i and i say perhaps because i'm not sure but you seem very sure that the judicial protest that went around the world that resonated that this is a reckoning. yeah we're going to take him up it took me a wow because look i'm torn on the one hand in the immediate aftermath of the george floyd death there was an enormous outpouring of empathy of fellow white brothers and sisters citizens of all races stripes colors orientations class status and the way religion nationality and not only in america but across the globe 50

states in this country were in 7. countries across the world it was extraordinary and i think because all of us were at home during the pandemic for many of us who are those of us who are the privileged. and we saw on our screen what could no longer be denied what black people had said was true or not or if you do anything you don't have to make any sense to the cops and they will hurt you if you're a black person and it removes the excuses m.v.s. tourist from white people always was running from the cup no it wasn't all he had a gun or he had in the 9th he was going to step in knowing all he was sassing cocoons no he wasn't no excuse what do you fight no one in some senses for some broaching lee but others you know blatantly they finally got the message oh my god and when they did it there was an enormous swelling of surgeons that outpouring of

a normas identification with black folk and so into the streets they poor and now 6 months later many of us think well was that a real reckoning did white people come to grips with their original sin so to speak and i look at it this way to me i think of it as many white people on that day fell in love with black people great that for the 1st time now a lot of them already were but many said oh my god here's a new low right before our eyes i love black people black lives matter i'm going to post on social media i'm going to talk as a superstar in my particular arena and give money and resource. as and now pay attention and help eat green light projects that need to be greenlit right falling in love and you know when you fall in love it's roses it's candlelight it's you know run back it night. and then you see it sexy it's hot me there it is you keep talking yeah use used better than me and then it was way to the toilet

paper is on the wrong way larenz who placed his own you in the baffin lease do and the toothpaste is being you know spit out from the wrong end and you left the toilet seat up do you want me to swim in the very toilet so but at that level it's the everyday unsexy stuff where real love has to take root because real of can't be on the mountain top of the majestic magical encounter in romance it has to be in the valley so to speak of the every day normal existence where real up shows up it picks up the kids on time it cooks the dinner on time it washes the coals on time it shares the duty across gender on time in other words the performance of love is the real reckoning in a systemic structural way with the truth that have been revealed and i think at this level of the romance between the white folk fell in love with us and the black people who are the recipients of those ambitions are you know are is now in a in

a kind of state where it's unsexy we've got to talk every day and we can't be to discourage the pendulum has swung from one end to the other but we have to maintain our commitment to say i'm not going to be discouraged because we don't have rules roses and candlelight let's have a date night let's figure out a ritual of accountability let's figure out the rhythm of our mutual in gauge went with truth accomplices and of the fact of racial reckoning so it can only happen if we pay attention and make it happen so i refuse to give up too so it's only been 6 months since then we have to be determined and see this through the long. i'm just looking to see what's happening and some really interesting conversations just fucking off michael danny more since the biggest issue is non-black people's ignorance about race relations no residents are a bit it's a big trouble it's a make issue to be sure which is why people like me writing books than we are have

conversations for me you have your wonderful show we try to help people out we try to engage them and i don't scorn people who don't know now either you know i'm skeptical of people who have reason to know and refuse to learn that's a different problem but the ignorance is deep and profound in many ways so we have to saw that we have to encourage white brothers and sisters and others outside of our communities please learn please talk please engage with other people please learn the circumstances and conditions of our emergence our flourishing our prohibition in certain circles that are accepting the white folk but not us look at the circles of privilege in which you participate in circulate so if thing is is that yeah we got to encourage people to know something don't talk about some sort of you are really know about if you don't know about rugby don't speak about strikers if you don't know about you know football in america don't talk about quarterbacks and the like in other words get informed of the rules the history the tradition and the conditions under which that sport occurs the same thing with race

how having said that i encourage people always to have an open mind and an open spirit to learn as much as you can talk to as many people don't just have one black friend record that one black friend could be great in that one but frank and that agree don't ever take anybody's one word because there is always a difference a convergence of complicated nuanced interpretations of the truth that we confront and when you have a broader palette of colors from which to draw the picture you yield the portrait you present is far more engaging. michael in this book you start riffing on tensile culture i know it's something that bugs you a lot you've been talking about this for a while so then when you make a turn into counsel cult is it is michael's thinking and you get upset about it i want to share with you a comment by joel and then just to look at the back of it and if you are critical of counsel culture joel has this question for you is to. mark west in the

movie if you feel that there is an issue with the way to go about his cause then what can be improved what can be taken away and if we remove chance of course or table near where others who we the general public have to hold way people accountable because we can't continue having this beer and worry that once we wholesome and strive to make the rest them scatter like roaches and all they've always been doing that partisans hearings but holding them accountable in the public with no more seems to be one way to be able to truly make a difference. yes eloquent is a well stated question look i'm not talking about not holding my brothers and

sisters accountable that is not my point and furthermore i think it is extremely necessary for us to leverage whatever authority we possess morally politically socially economically in defense of ideas ideals and identities that have better under us up what i mean by cancer culture is the vicious ripping of another person's reputation or experience of their souls as if they have done to ultimately harm now if for those who have god bless them let it rip right so that the harvey weinstein's or the bill because if you think best the case or they are kelly's but for the most part cancer culture is not leveraged against those bodies it's more of a parallel movement even people with power deserve to have their day in court so to speak if you go online to me it can become like a lynch mob here you are 5 in 10 of you 100 of us 1000 of you were rather quickly without evidence without countervailing proof without the ability for the person

being held to account to give account of him or herself to talk about the conditions under which they exist the plight in predicament of their particular career or if you think they've done something wrong you want to if this araik them for instance the governor of virginia ralph northam who was in black it's horrible races to be sure but the question is what do we do if we get rid of that person if we just throw him to the side and throw him to the wolves then he won't be able to stay in office aid to find restitution to find restitution o. justice versus retributive justice restoring to justice which is the ideal expression i believe of our communities at their best and you can get a white guy in there or white woman. after him and they'll go like no i have never had black face but by the way i don't care about your particular issues our culture

but a white person who is conscious of his or her thought and flaw coming to grips with that in public what did ralph nor them do he turned around and he did things like 10000 prisoner x. prisoners were restored in terms of their voting rights you know that's disproportionately impacting african-american people he talked about health care he dealt with educational systems in other words he went to work like a demon and he worked on behalf of black people if a person makes them a state should they be held to account yes but to dispose of them to me that's smuggling into black culture white supremacy as ethics white supremacy wants to destroy it wants to roll him until you do with a little white woman let me kill you let me eviscerate you let me wipe you out that kind of desire for vengeance is not justice to me justice is what love sounds like when it speaks in public and if we talk about justice let's also spare the lives of

the people with whom we disagree those who are most vigilant and arrogant white supremacy us hold them accountable i don't even want to destroy their lives i want to destroy the infrastructure that supports them the white nationalist ideology that propels them but them as human beings no and cancel culture makes no distinction so my friend i think there's a way to acknowledge wrong and harm to hold people accountable but also to do things in a fashion that will preserve the integrity of the human being was fun it would be very quickly and by saying this i picked up you know i was a young preacher and 21 years old back into the city and it was my job to go to the hotel to score the pastor to church that morning and he told me young man it is easier for a young preacher to damp the heat power of humanity than to get in there and help those who have been hurt he said the older i get the more. i preach about great he said i suppose that's because i need more of it one day the cancer or maybe the

cancer and you want people to treat you with respect look at the entire sweep of your career are you being reduced to one with state one flaw and one problem to me it just doesn't accord with the best traditions of love forgiveness in gauge meant and accountability and by the way just as that our community has because i am hearing them the minister i hear the baptist minister. the minister michael eric dyson i have one baby yet i just want you to bring your thoughts together bring this home i'm going to do it by and meet you is looking ahead to 2021 he's a question for me thanks. for continuing and expanding the conversation of our having on how to reckon with race your 100 and of course i'm doing so in such a powerful man by writing letters some irish americans each who was a victim of racial ounce in the united states so my question would be how to 4 years of racial tensions being stuck and provoked by the present united states what

recommendations really you have her husband joe biden how much strategies he could use colluders out of these types. brother nick great question great analysis a don't be donald trump i think we've achieved that be don't stop the fears the division the hatreds the animosities the hostilities the threats the dangers that exists among and between groups number c. find a way to leverage the moral authority of american democracy and those who defend it most ordinary citizens in their spots and spaces and spirits in this country who every day uphold the bloodstain banner of truth of commitments of those things that are helpful not hateful not nasty not negative and then d. e make sure that you engage with your brothers and sisters across the spectrum and understand that we are only good if we are all good yet are and that we contribute

our lives no matter our race color or sexuality or creeds this nation is as strong as it can possibly be. and you've been listening to michael eric dyson he is the author of long time coming reckoning with greats in america you can join this conversation you like death you can enjoy this but michael such a pleasure thanks for joining us all 'd in sterling. thanks so much and. when the news breaks the impact of the storms in honduras has been particularly devastating when people who need to be hurt no group has claimed responsibility for the shooting on the outskirts of srinagar indian administered kashmir people here say they're living in fear al-jazeera has teams on the ground they never ate beef with that we simply don't know if we can think to bring you more award winning

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