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award winning documentary. subscribe to eugene forward slash al-jazeera english. anthony ok today on the screen we're talking about indian matchmaking the process of a range marriage and also india match making the next weeks to the series it next engine was a huge instant hit it which binge where the. relax and leave a word you're. going to the word no i think trying to be really. not for me i will never. tell my dude i'm sick and i'm here to help. them out it is. so depressing scary ditcher very predictable call for matchmaker.
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and sense of humor. comedy. the clarity they want someone having equal to my pain i just meant it's also important enough to be attracted to the person of the prisoners to me but i don't think that it's not for i'm really close to my mom to. judge me if it doesn't play in the ways man man has we're not going to find that a lot i recite its. people has so many opinions about india matchmaking you can share your thoughts by jumping into the comments and you can be part of this conversation. i'm going to see how the guests the guests were introduced and sounds to new heights great to have you here on the street. i'm writing wonder i'm the creator
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and executive producer and then much. great having you highlights and your welcome to the street tell everybody. by everyone my name city you'll hear it at the audie i'm the founder of surf coffee a dating service for indians are all the world great. welcome to the stream introduce yourself to our internationally. i very happy to be here i'm borrowing one diary i'm an associate professor of sociology at global university in india and my ph d. was on match making practices in india. so what happened do you think in july when everybody started to what india matchmaking with your professional expertise apply what could you say actually how do you i mean. well i mean they would talk to reasons broadly one is that people could relate to the show so many several indians the many of them or at least even people that i worked with i researched on
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been indians many of them have solicited services of matchmakers so there was one element of faith which is that we can relate to it we understand what's happening and then there was a there was another group which also felt that look this is what happens this is how indian picture hockey works this is how colorism works and obviously when it's sort of right there in your face staring at staring at you in your face you just feel you know you're just if you're going over bound and you feel angry at it as well. and it gets personal let me see some of the beautiful pictures you created this amazing world of romance i'm going to show some with the pictures he has of the cup with him on my laptop and we're also you were doing was bringing into the mainstream right across the world what it's like to date for a life partner tell us what was the. you know the idea was to create a dating show from the very culturally specific point of view of. you know middle
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class and upper middle class in the end. you know there's no one show that can represent the entire experience of 1400000000 indian people around the world so the slice of life that we focus on for this person in particular was you know through the mud and through her client sima samar from them by our matchmaker and through her clients and i wanted to really examine the aspects of you know i think a range of measures a very triggering term and i think if you watch the show you'll see that we the way we use that word is the looser stuff edition you know there are instances where you know i mean people have completely agency the people who find you know they're the life partners on their own on the show and they're people who go through a more traditional arranged marriage you know route a somewhat more traditional arranged marriage route so there's a wide spectrum i think that's what we were trying to show and also you know just show that that the way the tension between our traditions and our modern so you
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know it's i think we're very much in that you know in that transitional phase right now particularly with this generation so for me it's interesting as a filmmaker it's interesting just to examine that dynamic through the lens of something that's as relatable as dating in marriage you can't use an instant feedback case in ricci plenty cheap is nice to see you can buy that and i enjoyed the show it was interesting to see how indian culture views mary going to china is i left the series was so good season to sing please and then you said i'm keith says i'm going to put to use a new matchmaking is a great way to help shelley people get married to new. well not just shy people but all sorts of people i think. i mean i got into this business because as a smithy pointed out you you've got a 1000000000 and a half people roughly around the world. and for some reason we have as if you're of indian origin you've almost akin success to getting married you're not quite
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successful until. you know you've been hitched and this is something i've observed when i lived in india as well as counterparts from that the needs around the world became a viable model and you juxtapose that with all the complexities of. having an arranged marriage and a very a growing young population which is modernizing day by day then you have a very complex sort of ecosystem to navigate through and that's where we come in how do you make sense 22000 in contemporary terms. sure so the premise of the arranged part of arranged marriage i think holds true so the idea idea that someone who knows you quite well makes a well educated recommendation for you go hang out with someone to see if there's a spark that's that's pretty that's that's a valid approach i think and we've retained that through our dating and matchmaking
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service what is not as valid probably is the metrics that that person uses to evaluate who is a good match right so you know how a halt when they're what time of the year they're born you know their complection or their height doesn't make for a career marriage it may make it may in advance what you are you chasing a wedding or a marriage. is so we're inching their range hard but those metrics need to be changed for things like do you like skiing do you like cold weather do you want children and are you a meat eater not so easy as you know. yeah i mean i think look i think this is a very. a triggering topic for a lot of people which is you know why i just i understand english completely expecting a lot of the strong reactions official got. and i think what we need to think about we need to think about 2 things one is that our values our traditions as indians
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are very much in flux right now in a way that you know in this particular generation in a way that we haven't seen. you know in the past 5 or 6 generations prior to this things were the same for generation after generation and then suddenly in one generation everything is changing so not everybody's going to come along you know on that journey at the same pace you know there are people who so vocally traditional values conservative values progressive values and problematic ideas that may not even recognize the reason for example my mother you know who considers herself a very liberal progressive person might still you know i have at one point you know in. you know the journey of trying to get me a life partner i still believe that i would have been happiest with you know a hindu maradi guy you know like somebody from my community from my background you know similar education level etc and the reason for that would be should god run.
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but the reason for the reasons about is that you know traditionally from the back of that she comes from women so went to go live with their husbands family after marriage and from her perspective and from the perspective of seema and some other people but easiest path you know to transitioning from your mother's house to your father from your father's house to your father or mother out was to have that father in law's house be a similar to the father's house as possible so that was them that was sort of a framework you know which through which people were evaluating there was obviously superstition involved too and i know the underlying implicit in all of this are some very problematic things that. you know maintaining you know past you know. things community bloodlines things like that but i think on the surface of it people were thinking especially if you have daughters you're thinking you want that daughter to feel as at home in her new home as possible so if you were raised by japan and you know you maybe it would be difficult for you to adjust in
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a meeting household if you were raised right to know a certain religion on a certain background that would be difficult to adjust that change in my generation i'm married to a good long irish man you know who you know we live a completely different life but you know all that understanding is not going to happen overnight but everybody's just employ people to have i understand the urgency of our meeting to show that some of our more regressive ideas but i think you know let's also think about where people are coming from and how we need to bring them along you know on this journey sweetie i'm bringing a clip from. the documentary that you make will see tobacco coming up here online not too you can see the post of for it and it tells the story of 3 indian women trying to get married and eating meat we have seen on t.v. you also a piece an indian matchmaking and she's going through come to react to you it's really really important who do you want what do you want what is your family won't
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feel you have to listen to some of that content. there's a new windows box boy don't you think that it'll sort of the red. sox will be the 2nd. you know one very interesting. one of the things i noticed when i was looking in the matchmaking as a as a piece of t.v. was a lot of similarities came out about what was needed from the man and what was needed from the woman what does that tell us about where we are right now in indian society and the. i mean it's still a long way to go right and mean as shown in the estimate the escutcheon suitable to go there is a very different kinds of expectations from men and women would like to things maybe is right that we'd like to think that recitals it will ring in that say in
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that way where they would be some kind of equality as it were but there is no 2 ways about it that when it comes to figuring out the criteria for a suitable dried it begins with a set of physical characteristics fresca install pretty hair length so on so forth and then moves to value systems so you often find in newspapers newspaper advertisement as well as an action on your websites this stone more than yet traditional and this stone is use more for potential brides than for potential groups so there's a different kind of expectation from grooms having said that also men also becomes a bit tricky because what is required of them is this kind of very good income and it is a financial package that is looked into and that remains now whether it is a matchmaker whether it's a match for me a website or mind you even when it is conversations amongst friends i wouldn't i
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would watch about dating as i have in research and i don't know what dating app is like but even in terms of. 'd getting just choosing someone from your informal networks or networks of friendship from your networks of work these kind of gendered ideas suitability are embedded some of us can push to push them back but i suppose many of us are unable to do. so you can i put this team this is a yes he conducts she's a writer and journalism is but a little bit earlier she also comes from the direct consulate and she does know in const attitudes would be one of the lowest costs and she talks about costs and also the prejudices around cost when people are looking 1st suitable go oh boy to get married to 70 since yes. let's be clear about one thing in india i mean just are all about cost in fact it is to arrange marriages the cost estimate has existed for thousands of yes it is how brahmans they are the brahmins marry other assholes
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and while it's done it's all you have to do is look at any action and then you will find peace in the infant brides and grooms within their own gust that is why it is so important and quest in this system of any marriage is especially when it goes on in that fictional you know that it's only uncritical man you take that statement a range marriages are all about cost. and well. look at i think it's a loaded question we're fortunate that in the in the 2nd and the kind of did the segment of the population that we specifically operate in caste and family ideas and parents and what parents want for their child. we're not we're not dealing in that sort of clientele having said that i think the further down the spectrum you get this becomes and operating reality and it's really up to the individual. to see
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if they can free themselves from it so one of the things that i found when i when i sort of coffee i had sort of the modern indian person who's 12 traveled or lives abroad in mind surprisingly we found that. a lot of our clientele are from smaller cities in india and we have more women than men because they prepped the proposition that i get to meet someone. on my terms casually and they're sort of page you and they're sort of vetted and they're serious about marriage yet to have the option to sort of walk away with without them being going on the wiser is a very compelling proposition in a smaller city in india for a woman who's trying to escape her arranged marriage you know and a lot of families tend to think that you know they're sort of progressive and liberal because they give their child the right to veto the 1st 23 matches and i have a theory that if you're dude number 4 or girl number 5 girl number 4 you are going
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to get married because they've used up their 3 lives to veto the progress of parents. let you say no 3 times and you've kind of been to this restaurant 3 times already people are starting to talk you know i let you go i let you study abroad but now it's time arrange it. and you know this is good intel for anyone who's in that process right now is like we can't wait to see when you're at number 3 or number fool. and we put them to this you start to is. he so in a sense that in show highlights of constancy and which is present but now this show your show has made us realize how deep is it is a function it's pretty trivial. how do people get these deep intake when. so i think you know what percentage want to comment on what yes because i think if i commend us respectfully actually i think she wrote an amazing piece that everyone in the atlantic about and in matchmaking that everyone should read to get
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a deeper understanding of past as a man and how it actually serve a real implications the path as i see the joy of the show you should absolutely read that piece to get a deeper understanding of these issues. i don't think so i will say you know take issue with the idea that anything in india represents all about anything you know it is a very diverse. country with a lot of different ideals and a lot of ideals that are in flux so arranged marriage you know i don't think you can say it is all about any one thing because there's so many different things as it is. and in terms of the show the way we treat it in the show because there is so much diversity a fraught diversity of ideology such a rock a huge spectrum of ideas around arranged marriage for some folks you know with thing it is quite simply somebody that you know and who's known you for a long time whether it's a family member you know you know or i'm not to make up for somebody who's involved in the process of finding your life partner for many people that is the extent to
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what you know the definition of arranged marriage is this simply involvement somebody has no new for a long time so i guess it is you know both the stereotypical you know thing that we that we hear the you know you some truth your husband or your wife or you you meet them on your wedding day you know kind of thing so there's a huge range between those 2 things 1st 2 ideas and we tried in the show you know we're having a part of the absolutely most progressive traditional you know aspect of it which i think don't happen as much in the main not the major cities and that sort of urban middle and upper middle class and certainly not as much in the sort of an i community anymore we did try to show as many diverse points of us possible around the idea of marriage an arranged marriage. and then leave it to all you like to my jewish media and as you can just put this to you because like i feel this is really important and something that many will soon overlook some of. austin was it was a loosely representation in india matchmaking. also for the for them thing because
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we had it was the 1st season of the show and we had a very limited pool of people who actually even willing to participate in it so so we had to go with people who are willing to go through this traditionally very private process on t.v. for a t.v. show and that limited our. pool of people very dramatically and then we have to then from that to folks are for people who are going to be honest about the process who are going to try to play a tape or you know play up you know a certain personality for t.v. we want to people who are authentically in the process speaking life partners that are so backed and within that we try to go for as much diversity you know ideologically and in terms of background as we also because how come so that's one thing that really that question question came from on the show he should receive if i may. be true t.v. series a film that takes right now indian much making 8 episodes you can kind of watch in the whole night and also how i know that. somebody's not so much conversation about
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so many issues about contemporary i belong to a traditional marriages in india and around the continent now he's a connection fool that's taken. now if you want to. know. who we are one that. product is. hard. and the 2nd one is feeling element is those who are not cost. hundreds parliament dollars people like us it's our. partners you our problem one of the concerns i continue to have is how complection height divorce really continued to be used against south asian women in trying to find a life partner at the end of the day we're really looking at it collectivist versus individual list approach to marriage and whichever way people choose to go my hope
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is that it is a dignified and respectful process where they need them to relieve strains to remove upsize home in the masses i don't think that means much of it inside what matters is how good is your relationship how to learn manage and us marriage and i see and end of the day what matters is how much meaning you make your marriage you are who should have mutual love under strict amwu should who need to require masses and sacred presence what matters is how stupid or not how you grew up together. you would accuse me of one night a question going to give you a noble and. sure match making actually. absolutely there is not and. i think so we've had 10 years of data to support that now i'll go back to kind of some of the comments that have been made previously and
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i think the last the last person rush machine she kind of touched on what i want to say i mean historically when you had the idea of the arranged marriage expectations of a very very clear this you know this expectations around adjustment which has become a real bad word or sacrifice however if you use adjustment or sacrifice in a normal context in a western society these are not bad things these are sort of virtues because in the indian framework in the indian context they are there singular to the woman to adjust and to kind of completely from the from taking a new 1st name taking a new flask name changing the way you dress the way you eat the way you go out it has sort of tainted the 8 idea of sacrificing and adjusting for your partner which actually if it partners are on equal terms that's what it will take for any 2 for any relationship to work whether it's colleagues or you know mentors or or whatnot what the key difference here is i think. indian society the young the young indian
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population has progressed and particularly on off on the for for women there's been a quantum leap both in terms of professional responsibility social independence day ability to just educate yourself and then do something with it so there's this weird expectation around having a highly educated park there are a lot highly educated white but doing nothing with that education safe if there is a bit of room for 2 people to explore and this is the crux of like are the companies proposition it's that space to get to know each other without sort of overcommitting so arranged marriage becomes really had because when 2 people actually meet 2 families are involved uncles a lot of communiques exchange in both sides and becomes a very vested decision when those 2 people meet whereas if a guy and a girl still meet in an arranged marriage setting but they have the room to explore that relationship over several months or a year like it like they would because expectations of individuality have progressed there's
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a shot at it working. so now that it is now over but you've made a very good case arranged marriage dangi said morrow thank you parnham and also thank you sweetie i'm missing something back here on my laptop we have an. instagram series that always happens about an hour. so this is the engine steam instagram page at age and stream and easy to follow this is happening instagram page very easy to pull and when saying 6 think that he g.m.t. need to see happen or the indian match making to us on the a.j. stream instagram's that is at 16 and he can't make you know it's not thank you and to me it's a student in sit down on the front of her thank you. the
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