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to seize the ballot box during the vote 1st speaker the president narrowly won a 2nd term in december the vote was overshadowed by post-election violence and opposition claims a fraud it's. hello again the headlines on al-jazeera facebook and instagram have banned donald trump indefinitely that's according to the company's c.e.o. mark zuckerberg and a statement said the ban will last for at least the next 2 weeks until the peaceful transition of power is complete and the move comes one day after a crowd of trump supporters violently breached the capitol one person was shot and killed by police while 3 others died during the riots 68 people were arrested congress was eventually able to formally approve joe biden's election victory clearing him to be sworn in as president on january the 20th when the senate and
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house rejected several challenges made to the counting of state votes and biden's favor the votes for president of the united states are as follows joseph r. biden jr of the state of delaware has received 360 votes donald j. trump of the state of florida has received 200 $32.00 votes the announcement of the state of the vote by the president of the senate shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the persons elected president and vice president of the united states each for the term beginning on the 20th day of january 2021 and shall be entered together with the list of the votes on the journals of the senate and the house of representatives. u.s. president elect joe biden has selected judge mary garland to serve as his attorney general girl and had been nominated to the supreme court by barack obama and 2016 but the republican controlled senate refused to hold hearings on the nomination he
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currently serves as an appeals court judge based in washington d.c. u.s. more than 132000 coronavirus patients and hospital more than at any time since the pandemic began critics say people aren't being vaccinated fast enough officials in california say there's a new death on average every 15 minutes another high profile chinese former executive has been sent to jail for bribery banga life in prison for taking more than 13000000 dollars in bribes between 20092019 but you former chairman of china development bank was arrested last february earlier this week a court sentenced lige amen to death for bribery and corruption while hiding a state owned asset management for. those are the headlines inside story is up next .
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democracy under siege donald trump's supporters barge into congress to try and stop joe biden being confirmed as the next u.s. president is a peaceful transfer of power now at risk and what can be done to bridge america's deep political divisions this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program. an assault on american democracy attempted coups domestic terrorism just some of the terms used to describe an unprecedented day of
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chaos as the u.s. congress certified joe biden as the next president crowds fueled by president donald trump's false claim that the election was stolen from him stormed the capitol building to disrupt the democratic process social media sites blocked trump for inciting violence world leaders appealed for calm using the sort of language that the u.s. often uses on other nations some congress members are openly calling for trump to be removed from office before biden's inauguration in 2 weeks' time practical hane reports. the u.s. capitol building under siege. thousands of president donald trump's followers surrounded the building and burst in the result a remarkable scene of lawmakers clean and the police seemingly overwhelmed social media filled with pictures of trump's followers and offices in the chambers running free in what is supposed to be one of the most protected buildings in the country it started as u.s. president donald trump called his supporters to protest what he falsely claimed was
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a stolen election riling them up with inflammatory words and misinformation are we going to walk down to the capitol was and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women as a joint session of congress met to certify the election the president's followers heated his words and descended on the capitol chaos followed. tear gas and flash bangs to try and push them back from the front of the capitol others moved to the back quickly pushing through a line of police many entering the building congress was dismissed and its members blood at one point reports of an armed standoff at least one protester was shot and killed several officers injured the incoming president responded this is not to sent it's just shorter it's chaos it borders on sedition
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and it must and now i call on this mob to pull back and allow the work of democracy to go forward he demanded the president tell his supporters to go home and trump did but continue to repeat his lies i know your pain i know you're hurt. we had an election that was stolen from us it was a landslide election and everyone knows it is night still in the u.s. capitol the national guard the police they try to regain control of the building in the morning and it will bring fresh questions about exactly how this happened and whether they'll be any repercussions for the people whose words led to this unbelievable action pedicle again al-jazeera at the u.s. capital. international reaction has ranged from concern to condemnation the head of the u.n. said he's saddened and concerned by the events the italian foreign minister called
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it a real disgrace to democracy and an attack on the freedoms of the american people new zealand's prime minister said democracy should never be undone by a mob germany's foreign minister said the enemies of democracy will be delighted at these terrible images from washington d.c. and some seem to use the event for diplomatic ammunition iranian president hassan rouhani said it shows above all how fragile and vulnerable western democracy is in china the foreign ministry accuse countries of double standards for supporting protesters in hong kong while condemning the capital siege. alright let's bring in our guests in washington d.c. rena shah political advisor and founder of republican women for biden in atlanta jill cartwright activist and georgia state white organizer with southerners on new ground power and in doha jocelyn sage mitchell assistant professor at northwestern university welcome to the program jocelyn let me start with you today you heard a moment ago some of that international reaction that's been coming in regarding
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the events in the capital in washington d.c. yesterday you know countries like iran and germany and italy all reacting to what went on what does what happened in washington d.c. signify to the rest of the world and say about the state of american democracy right now. well thank you for having me and that's a great opening question well ultimately it shows the power of leadership the power of a leader's words in a way that forces people to recognize that words matter that words have consequences and these trump supporters came directly from a rally with the president where he told them that the election was stolen and he told them to march to the capitol and stop the steel and i'm sure they thought they were doing the right thing and that they were being patriots for their country and the reason they think that is because they've been lied to for the last 2 months
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about the election and for the last 4 years about everything else by the president of the united states and the political and media bubbles that have enabled him so you know and we see politicians like ted cruz and kevin mccarthy pretending they can denounce the violence that occurred in the capital while still maintaining that the 1st amendment gives them the right to protest the legitimacy of this election. this is an abject refusal to take responsibility for what a leader's words can do there is a direct path a direct link between that saying over and over that your country is stolen and your listeners rising up and defending that country and i have to say the fact that as horrifying as this event has been it has forced a final reckoning a final repudiation of trump from many politicians who have held out until today until they were finally confronted with this terrifying visual evidence of what
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happens when the president of the united states willfully ignores his oath to uphold our constitution you know we see kelly loffler the recently defeated senator of georgia say that in good conscious she can no longer vote against the sort of occasion of the election we see lindsey graham telling the president help me out enough is enough it's over so you know. we can only hope that this shocking event continues to shame our politicians into being the kinds of leaders that the american people need desperately at this moment in time and i'll just finish by saying that ultimately this shows the immense polarization we face as a country the intensity and necessity of the task ahead for by specifically the needs of focus on unity unifying policies and rhetoric that rebuilds us as a nation and of course that need to focus on unity and healing that has consequences for his agenda going forward jill from your vantage point as an
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activist an organizer on the ground in georgia who worked so hard to turn out the vote for these runoff elections i mean from your perspective what does all this say about the state of the country. and you for having me and thank you for that wonderful question i believe that activism organizers like myself have had many conversations about the possibility of this kind of response by land response to the outcome of what was a free and fair election i think the american people have spoken those of us who can vote and have made a decision about where we see the future of this country going i think the now's the time for our leaders including joe biden including come here is including the congress in including president tramp who still has a following in the united states to be honest about where we're going be honest
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about what this means for democracy and be honest about the history that this is situated in we know that we study the history that white supremacist violence has always there and american democracy at least this democratic project that we are chanting and so the only difference between what's happening now what has happened in the past and response to black people showing up and using their vote people of color and other communities showing up and using merril and expressing their voice the only difference between this situation and let it happen in the past is that we now have an opportunity to actually continue to wield that power and actually take a stance on the question of freedoms civil rights and justice for our people in this town tree now a number of people are calling this the last straw for donald trump they're demanding he be removed from office immediately take this from the washington post
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it says the president is unfit to remain in office for the next 14 days every 2nd he retains the vast powers of the presidency as a threat to public order and national security vice president pence who had to be whisked. off the senate floor for his own protection should immediately gather the cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment declaring that mr trump is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office rina that editorial from the washington post also said that responsibility for this act of sedition lies squarely with the president from your perspective do you believe that in the coming hours and days we're going to be seeing more calls for invoking the 25th amendment i mean would mike pence do that would this gain traction at this point. well i must say number one is that yes the claims of my squarely with the president united states for his words were the very reason that those stopped the steel protesters who were
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supposed to gather very peacefully which is the great american tradition of foreigners starting our democracy they have that right to gather and demonstrate peacefully they did not they were propelled by his words into what was he in this actions and i believe that yes that was long and blame lies with the president but it also is shared by senators like josh holly and ted cruz who are part of the dozen senators who wanted to object to the certification of the electoral college results those senators i believe share some of the blame for what happened yesterday actually senator holly was witnessed holding a fist up in sort of support of solidarity when he was walking to the senate yesterday towards the beginning of the day i had a very give me front row seat to everything over the course of 5 hours yesterday i watch with my own eyes as i have in just disbelief and as protesters reached the parameter in a way that i was absolutely sure was not good and at that moment i saw it happen
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and i knew that the police force the law enforcement there on capitol hill were overwhelmed i knew this because i spent 4 years as a senior congressional staffer on the u.s. house of representatives i i was there at a time and this still remains that you're when you're walking on the wrong side of the side wrong side of the side the capitol police reprimand you they give you a look at what are you doing to watch the images of yesterday to watch some of these individuals being escorted downstairs by riot police the young woman who lost her life yesterday i believe trying to make it through the speaker's lobby she was shot and then lost her life later on the day she was trying to commit a crime and this was not an innocent bystander like in charlottesville virginia when you had white supremacist. heather hire an innocent bystander for like yesterday was not just atrocious on every level it was undemocratic it on anti-conservative and i for one plan to hold the republican party. accountable and
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responsible in the days to come i made my career in the republican party and these so hot leaders deserve to pay the price johnson i saw you nodding along to a lot of what reno was saying it seems like you want to jump in so i'll let you do that but i also want to ask you about the fact that there are growing calls right now to impeach donald trump again do you think that's going to gain traction could we see that playing out again in the roughly 2 weeks he has left as president thank you. i was really not in a line to both jill and reno they were both making excellent points there and amazing personal experiences look. i understand the point of why the president is a danger to democracy and i think that's something that is very very clear now in a way that people cannot look away from. that said impeachment
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does take a long time to to get through i think that bernie sanders has already been quoted as saying it's not possible to to make that happen again within 2 weeks it is possible to invoke the 25th amendment. that is actually something that needs to be strengthened because right now the only person who can invoke it is the vice president along with the cabinet of the president and these are people who are beholden to the president are a part of the president and their political fortunes are tied to him so that's for example one of those very tricky situations where maybe a bipartisan or nonpartisan committee in charge of the 25th amendment would have already done so perhaps soon after his inability to concede the election but unfortunately i'm just not sure that. i'm not sure exactly how much data we will see these new converts from the republican 'd side in the rainy
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president trump in and leave these last few weeks jill in your previous answer you touched upon racism in the united states and i want to talk about the fact there are a lot of activists you know in the aftermath of what happened in d.c. who are saying look can you imagine what would have happened in washington d.c. if these had been black lives matter protesters. what do you say to that. as ever we don't even have to imagine last summer near experience in d.c. and in the rest of the united states and even parts of the world we experienced the largest what has been called the largest uprisings in movement for civil rights in the history of this nation and so we don't have to imagine what would happen because me start over this summer i saw my car ad and fall organizers are in the rest of the rope on national t.v. an international t.v. star united states governors mayors and other elected officials
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deployed a national guard on peaceful protesters around the movement for black lives we also saw them use rubber bullets we saw them brutalize many protesters who came out in people who were new then at the protests but we're just trying to get home we start here guess our people we saw them deploy our sort of violence against our people when we didn't even get to that point starting a national federal building and so i think that to say that we can even imagine what would happen if black people or other protesters for racial justice protesters who actually have a viable cars had actually started the capital because it wouldn't happen we would we would be dead before it happened because we start and lost many of our comrades this summer rena there's a growing schism a very public rift in the republican party right now there are more republican
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leaders who are breaking ranks with president trump how is this going to play out how does the republican party define itself going forward. if i may while it's a question that needs to be a step will be that's a little too soon for that question this is just been probably the biggest event and in our nation's history in modern in the modern era is what i should say that so many of us are still processing there's a lot of pain out there as you know to watch the images as they become apparent to us how these protesters were treated at the screams of the cries of many of my fellow americans about this being somehow an illegitimate election we have all that process before we worry about the political futures of any of these republicans these shows for 4 years not to speak out as this want to be dictator of donald trump move us closer and closer to a closer and closer to an autopsy this is
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a democracy that he's never respected and i look at the words that sent her mitt romney in this moment to be confident because i believe that he is one of the leaders and i don't really care if they're republican or democrat or independent right now i'm looking for words that will lead us forward and i think when you say it plainly i think when when mitt romney very plainly said that these riots are beyond acceptance and he called it what it was an insurrection by the president was incited by the president the united states that needs to land on our hearts and minds and help us as a nation move forward from what is just a shocking and jarring assault on our democracy this was a literal assault on our democracy these people should not be spared the full within and the full weight of the law should come down on them what happens to the republican party is doesn't matter right now it's of no consequence this is a trump likud party it's a party that's been remade this president's image she has 2 weeks to go i hope the
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cabinet does the right thing and assembles and sets this president is not fit to lead he's incapacitated because even in the video that he put out on national television yesterday he still called it a functional election i'm the mother. to their young children who are not even yet growing and the present united states either reminds me of my children the very fact that he pushes things to the limit only to see how far he can get and is forced to apologize we don't have leaders in the republican party right now and unless they're willing to speak out like senator mitt romney congressman adam kinzinger i look forward to them assembling but i'm not willing to sit here and have a conversation about their future because the fact is they have a lot of reconciliation they need to do with black and brown americans in particular because the president's words i remember i remember them quite well and not to make this about thriller but it is heart very very hard to not make it about color and i will say those words last summer when the looting starts shooting starts these people have to want to lead us into the future i look forward to so
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many of them being primaried and out of office in the future jill i want to ask you about the work that you did in georgia because you know after the election in early november when it was declared that there was going to be a runoff many pundits many analysts in automatically believed that that meant that the republicans were going to win those races it was very unlikely the democrats were going to ruin when those senate seats ultimately you put in a lot of work you and other activists and organizers and i want to just ask what kind of work had to be done in order to ensure this victory how difficult was it. yes thank you for recognizing the hard work that that in the fact that many of us are attempting to rest right now in spite of all that's going on and i want to name that many organizations came together banded together in the past month to be able to reach as many voters as possible and this work obviously is built on
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decades and decades of work that has been done by led by black women and black people but has been done largely in part by people of color in the state of georgia l.g.b. people or people who come from immigrant and brought backgrounds in this state and so this is sort of a combination on the electoral side of what we have seen as a growing movement for justice and georgia and this work was grueling we know that going into this run as that it was said to be on mike lee that we would actually see a democratic victory in spite of all of the many victories that we seen in 2020 and that we've seen and our movement in terms of empowerment and our people coming together and just showing a sense of solidarity and fortitude that we've never seen before in spite of the
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most difficult circumstances we knew that an electoral victory was was told to be unlikely and so we knew that we won had to come together and polish an an alliance we knew that every single organization whether it was a c. 4 a pac a c 3 if it had a base of it had a membership if they had people and relationships in georgia that we needed them to be on the team and so we needed them to have a platform and so we are so so many of our allies across the country celebrities other politicians other people who are just on. an aside just this country gathered to actually give a platform to georgia organizers now this is something that you don't often see for organizers especially the letter organizers based in the south because a this turned into right off the south the u.s. south as unelectable as unflappable as
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a backwards region where there's a conservative stronghold and so what what we're seeing happen in georgia and what we're going to others may happen in georgia was not just a victory for joe biden it calmly harris it was not just a victory for her senator let's rafael why not and join us our but it was a victory for our movement because we were able to show that we were able to beat the odds and we did it by tapping into the relationships that we already have my organization some power has been building relationships with organizations and people in the state of georgia since the 1990 s. we've been working and sweating all wrapped sweating on our brow to meet as had been for decades we also were able to tap into the resources that are available to us and we use that people power and i want to say that this moment is historic. not just because of the outcome not because only because raphael warnock the president
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senator from georgia and the south not just because our south is the youngest person elected to the senate said joe biden was elected from delaware but this is a historic moment because we were able to show that when voter suppression is combat it we were able to show that when people are power and when they have the resources that they need particularly people in the south when they have the resources and the platform that they need to be able to use their voice and to be able to only power that the tired of progress the tide of justice and the entire political should jet business in is steered in a different way it completely changed and so i want to take that into the future because we enjoyed organizers knew that we didn't but what the rest of the nation didn't know was that this can continue to happen but we have to show up in the same way that we did this time all right well we've run out of times we're going to have
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to leave the conversation there thanks so much to all our guests rena shaw jill cartwright and joslin sage mitchell and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story for me mohammed i'm going the whole team here bye for now. discovered kazakstan that as a new strategic location at the crossroads of europe and asia. develop and grow your business. in the leading logistics trade and business harbor in 1st
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