life through those doors through those doors i was in this chamber when those gunshots rang that is real stuff that should never happen in the people's house for the 1st time can that house democrats and the speaker of the house put the people before politics please put the people before politics at a time when our nation is more divided than ever before let's put people before politics president trump will be leading and 7 days let's try to hill this nation let's listen to the american people this is the people's house let's operate for the people this country is hurting the people are hurting our colleagues are hurting this is

a reckless impeachment this will only bring up the hate and fire more than ever before have a conscience conscious put the people before paul many times if you are vying for mobile home is recognized general come a reserve gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. this is speaker let me remind all of my colleagues that what happened i wednesday would not have happened if it weren't for the occupant in the white house. and if we want to put the people 1st we all ought to vote to impeach him and remove him from office as soon as possible but that you have one minute to the gentlewoman from california for this bromley gentleman from california oregon as for one minute mr speaker today is a defining moment in our history congress was attacked by a mob directed by the president of the united states it was

a horrible terrifying situation but we all know deep in our hearts that it could have been much much worse we simply cannot let it stand we cannot let it stand for the very soul of our democracy we cannot let the president of the united states leave office without acting we are the oldest constitutional republic in the world and our capital is the sacred some bowl of our great democracy to my colleagues across the aisle i appeal to your sense of service and duty to our nation and to the oath we all swore to uphold before we are democrats and republicans we are americans let us come together to fulfill our oath by voting for the resolution before us and by defending preserving and honoring our democracy i yield back the gentlewoman yield gentleman from massachusetts preserve a gentleman from oklahoma is recognized thank you very much for speaker mr speaker

i yield 2 minutes to one of our new members distinguished gentle lady from south carolina mr mason and note that this is our 1st speech on the house floor gentleman from south carolina is recognized for 2 minutes thank you mr speaker and this is not the reason why i wanted to give my 1st speech on the in our chambers in our household halls this is not what i wanted to do in my 1st week in office but after the violent events of last week watching and witnessing how heartbreaking this was thank god i sent my kids home on monday morning because i was worried about the rhetoric leading up to the events into the rally on january 6th the violence that could transpire not only were our lives in danger but if my kids were here their lives right have been in danger to the 2 most precious people in my life. mr speaker the president of the united states that the u.s. house of representatives has every right to impeach the president of the united states but what we're doing today rushing this impeachment in an hour or 2 hour

long debate on the floor of this chamber bypassing judiciary poses great questions about the constitutionality of this process i believe we need to hold the president accountable i hold him accountable for the events that transpired for the attack on our capital last wednesday i also believe that we need to hold accountable every single person even members of congress if they contributed to the violence that transpired here but today i'm asking my colleagues to remember the words of the legendary the great leader in this country dr martin luther king who once said the time it is always right to do what is right and if we're serious about healing the divisions in this country republicans and democrats need to acknowledge this is not the 1st day of violence we've seen we've seen violence across our country for the last 9 months and we need to recognize number one that our words have consequences that there is violence on both sides of the aisle we have contributed to it we knew

that take responsibility for our words and our actions we did knowledge there is a problem take responsibility for it and stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution god bless every member in the chamber today god bless the united states of america i yield back thank general mills gentleman from oklahoma reserve a gentleman from massachusetts is recognized this is speaker and have a deal one minute to the german for vermont just a world gentleman from vermont is recognized for one minute mr speaker our government is founded on the principle all power flows from the people. donald trump challenge this principle in 2 ways to seat in violence the deceit is repeated and baseless assertions of the electoral fraud the violence the attack on the united states capitol in january 6 the mob was assembled by donald trump incited by donald trump in service of donald trump's effort to

overturn through violence what he lost at the voting booth the violent mob reached the capital killed an injured capitol police destroyed property threaten the vice president members of congress and staff all to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power if we want unity we must have accountability so the question before this congress will congress condone through acquiescence or condemn through impeachment donald trump's violent acts to overturn the elections gentlemen i'm john dyer in him in for massachusetts that reserves gentleman from oklahoma is recognized thanks very much for creek or are you able to manage through this thing wish the republican leader of the judiciary committee and mr jordan of ohio gemma from ohio is recognized for 2 minutes thank the gentleman for yelling the speaker in his opening remarks the democrat chair of the rules committee said that

republicans last week voted to overturn the results of the election guess who the 1st objector was on january 6th 2017 1st objector the democrat chair of the rules committee and guess which state he had jack did to alabama the very 1st day called alabama present trump i think what alabama like 80 points actually want to buy but you want to buy 30 points. they can object they can object to alabama in 2017 but tell us we can object to pennsylvania 2021 pennsylvania where the state supreme court just unilaterally extended the election to friday because they knew where the secretary of state unilaterally changed the rules went around the legislature in unconstitutional fashion pennsylvania were county clerks in some counties and you can imagine which counties they were let people fix their ballots against the law fix cure their ballots their mail in ballots directly via direct violation of the law and they tell us we try to overturn the election gets to the

2nd objective was 2017 the individual managing the impeachment for the democrats americans are tired of the double standard they are so tired of it democrats object to more states in 2017 than republicans did last week but somehow we're wrong democrats can raise bail for rioters and looters this summer but somehow when republicans condemn all the violence the violence this summer the violence last week somehow were wrong and democrats can investigate the president the united states as mr hoyer went through trying to impeach him investigating for 4 years but will not look at an election that 80000000 americans half the electorate 80000000 republicans and democrats have their doubts about. i said this last night i do not know where all this goes and this is frightening for the country we should defeat this rule and we should defeat the impeachment resolution when it comes up

gentleman's time has expired a gentleman from oklahoma reserved gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr speaker some of us objected. 4 years ago we as a protest vote to raise concerns about what all of our intelligence agencies said stated clearly that russia interfered in our election but with the german fails to acknowledge is that we all acknowledge that donald trump was the president the day after the election hillary clinton conceded the day after the election. and none of us push conspiracy theories like some of my friends on the other side of the aisle have been doing and this president that somehow that the president won in a landslide give me a break you know yesterday in the rules committee i asked the gentleman from ohio if he would just say 5 simple words he was talking about healing the 5 simple words that you can say that would help heal this nation or that the election was not stolen that said 5 simple words he refused he said he never said the election was

stolen well the evidence shows otherwise so let me quote from this dana milbank piece entitled 5 pesky little words keep stumping jim jordan and i and i and mr speaker the bottom line is this. we this capital was stormed people died because of the big lies that were being told by this president and by too many people on the other side of the aisle anough people should be outraged as to what happened. it was unforgettable unconscionable and coming up on this floor and talking about what about islam and trying to make these false equivalency give me a break the prez the united states instigated instigated an attempted coup in this country people died everybody should be outraged whether you're a democrat or republican if this is not impeachable offense i don't know what the hell is this president president is not fit to remain in office but that our yield

one minute to the gentleman from oregon is to far as you know gentleman from oregon is recognized for one minute. i think this gentleman this was not a one off it was a long time coming as a part of a plan to perpetuate trump in office trump campaign strategy was it the election the only way we could lose the stolen if it stolen its fake stolen repeated by many of his fellow travelers on that side more than 150 times by trump over the summer then they litigated to disqualify voters that didn't work then they litigated to throw out ballots well that didn't work then they attempted to delay the count and flipped state legislatures well that didn't work last ditch the president called down to george and said can't you find me more votes and then one last desperate plea stopped the january 6th certification and the president talked about that on september 26th he said you know if it goes to congress there's

one vote per state and we have an advantage so i think this was part of a plan to disrupt the electoral college in the united states giuliani trial by combat trump never take back our country and was on his expire have to go in for a mass casualty draw if you don't i don't like that are going to have a shot right now actually gentleman will suspend the gentleman is no longer recognized gentleman from oklahoma is recognized thank you very much for speaker mr speaker i yield 3 minutes to you my good friend the gentleman from pennsylvania mr rushton stronger new member of the rules the gentleman from pennsylvania is recognized for 3 minutes thank you mr chairman i'm deeply troubled by last week's attack in our capital and i pray for the families of officer sic nick and i have certainly been good as i had been saying all summer long violence in writing has no place in america and the criminals responsible for last week's writing must be

brought to justice. and a time when our nation is still healing we must seek out issues to work on that unite us rather than issues that further divide us i was greatly encouraged to see our country unite in condemnation of last week's lawlessness and the rioting i am further encouraged the despite my democrat colleagues claims to the contrary president trump is committed to a peaceful in an interrupted transfer of power but that's not good enough for my colleagues across the aisle with just 7 days left in president trump's term they are fast tracking impeachment proceedings a move which will no doubt further divide an already fractured nation even house democrats last impeachment effort which was rushed through in record time at the very least that had expert input depositions hearings and deliberation this latest

attempt at appeasement ignores all precedent and ignores all due process it cannot be voted on in the senate before joe biden is sworn into office i'm also very concerned by the charge against the president of quote unquote incitement of insurrection at his rally president urged attendees to quote unquote peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard there was no mention of violence let alone calls to action look i was i prosecuted tears the navy i was a defense attorney the navy jag where i was district judge just pull up the criminal statute look at the criminal code present terms of words would not even meet the definition of incitement under criminal statutes the measure before us today sets a dangerous precedent whereby political parties can justify impeachment simply because they do not agree with the president. i would therefore urge my colleagues across the aisle to take

a step back let cooler head pruett cooler heads prevail and consider how the actions we're taking here today will alter the course of history will lower an already low bar of impeachment for all future presidencies thank you and your back general yields gentleman from oklahoma reserve general from massachusetts is recognized this is speaker when my friends so if you're just joining us we've been following an unprecedented session under way on capitol hill have you not to state see house of representatives debate the resolution on whether to impeach president donald trump for a 2nd time limit credit accusing him of encouraging his supporters to attack the capitol building a week ago that aiming to charge him with incitement of insurrection thank you and my roots will go live to gotham fischer's at the white house for us but 1st let's start with custer who's at capitol hill and how do you been hearing from various congressmen and women from both sides lay lay out the sense of the events of last week this day last week in fact on january the 6th and the whys and wherefores as

to whether donald trump should be the become the 1st president. to be impeached twice. that's right this is the 2nd time around but there are 2 notable differences between this impeachment effort and what we saw a year ago when trump was impeached the 1st time the 1st one is the speed we are careening towards the end pietschmann vote which is likely to happen sometime this evening we didn't see the hearings the investigations that we saw unfold over a course of weeks when it came to the impeachment on trump's call with the president of ukraine and you're seeing republicans who are against this impeachment saying that this again is a rushed process the other notable difference though is that it's not every single republican this time who are standing against this impeachment we know of at least 5. akins in the house who have said on the record that they will vote to impeach

trump for inciting violence against the us government as this impeachment article accuses him and as many as some a dozen to 20 republicans in total vote for this impeachment it's notable those who are against impeachment and we've been hearing from some of them and this debate this far they're not so much defending the president's actions they have also condemned the violence that we saw and they have condemned the rhetoric leading up to that violence however they are against this impeachment again because of the speed that it's happening and they're arguing that impeachment for the 2nd time will serve to further divide the country now democrats have accused republicans of crying crocodile tears saying that it was these very repeated lies began begun by trump and repeated by republicans that this election

was stolen that it was those words that sewed these divisions in the 1st place but i will point out one similarity between this impeachment and the last and that is indeed those divisions run just as deep as they did a year ago in fact a poll from from c.b.s. . just recently out showed that 55 persons of percent of americans support this 2nd impeachment that's very reminiscent of a year ago when the nation was about 5050 divided the 1st time the troubles of the age the hard times in the book but the procedure because i have been here in the house is the discussing effectively the rules surrounding the impeachment and then they will go ahead to sort of go over what they've already said to a degree what. yeah we're going to hear some repetition here which is this part of the parliamentary procedure right now they're debating the rule. setting up the consideration of the impeachment article so you'll hear 1st from some more

representatives this morning for another half an hour or so then you'll see a vote to approve these rules that's likely to pass down partisan lines and then coming back early afternoon is when we had expected the real debate quote unquote to begin 2 hours of debate further on whether or not to vote for this article and of impeachment to impeach president trump so by evening's time we're expecting because of delays due to the pandemic the vote is going to take longer than they normally do but by early or mid evening we do expect president trying to become the 1st u.s. president ever to be impeached twice during his term. with the later thanks for the time being how did you cast are there on capitol hill the president white house unofficial is live there one assumes that the president is perhaps observing events these impeachment proceedings underway again because basically his business

interest only comes business interests are being targeted. by a lot here not through the impeachment process we will go to see it is something that is directly affecting him as a political figure let's just take a look he's not in the west is not in the oval office and move which means he's over in the residence and we know that when he moved in 4 years ago he put in more t.v.'s and extended the capacity of his digital video recorder so that he could go back and check with various channels we're seeing at various points normally at this point we knew exactly what he thought about the impeachment proceedings because of course we'd be able to check his twitter feed but he was kicked off that or the 3rd friday and overnight he's been removed from you tube they say they don't want don't trump on that platform anymore either we know that he's keen to put forward the argument that he should not be impeached because he believes it would split the country he thinks that there's a lot of people that are angry. but the whole idea of it he called it an extension of the word chunk of course goes back to the russian investigation and then the

subsequent 1st impeachment over ukraine but as heidi was pointing out there is a significant difference this time it was very much split along party lines when we talked about this a year ago and i know there are republicans are saying that donald trump has to go or at least cheney who is the number 3 republican in the house also the daughter of dick cheney former vice president saying that his words were simply an insult to the constitution and also to his own position as president so it's almost certain that he will be watching this perhaps with a few family members as well but we're not expected to hear from the president at any point today and remembered today marks one week that he has left in office by 12 o'clock next wednesday to donald trump will be ex-president trump and joe biden will be the 46 president of the united states is out of the house almost had to

vote to impeach president trump the question is what happens next when will it reach the senate. well that's really in the hands of nancy pelosi who is the leader of the democrats in the house so she can sit on it for a few days and there certainly those like jim cliburn who's the democratic whip in the house who says look we don't want to give this to the senate till after joe biden has had the 1st 100 days in office that is a milestone that came around with the idea of kennedy john fitzgerald kennedy suggested that the cost $100.00 days were going to be important and it has become a milestone for every president since then and certainly jim cliburn and those around joe biden would like to be able to get the 1st 100 days clear to do what they needed to do but there's every possibility that nancy pelosi will hand this to the senate because she got indication from mitch mcconnell the leader of the republicans in the senate that donald trump had in the words of one report committed impeachable crime so if you lose mitch mcconnell there's every

possibility there will be other republicans in the senate who can be peeled off and who will vote for impeachment and the immediate removal of donald trump from office which of course would then have the impact of joe biden not being the $46.00 president of the united states but would become the 47th president of the united states because mike pence would take over for the interim period here's another possibility that nancy pelosi will wait till after the election anyway and then hand it to the senate you know donald trump's defense to that will be or you can't impeach me once i've left office that simply can't happen it has happened before of course you can impeach not just presidents but judges and when one judge had left his job he was impeached afterwards on corruption charges essentially that was congress saying you can't do this sort of thing no there's a possibility that that could be challenged in the supreme court but the supreme court has in the past said look when it comes to impeachment the senate deals with this this is not something that the court wants to get involved in so there's

a number of paths it nancy. he can take and i think perhaps once the vote is completed we will get an indication from her on exactly where she is headed but almost certainly the last week of donald trump's presidency is going to be clouded on what happens in capitol hill rather than what happens in the building behind it it seems to be little doubt about that talent of timing thanks very much but a little bit later on inflation there at the white house so how might this impeachment process work well it begins in the house which debates and votes on whether to bring charges against the president's they only need a simple majority that's what we're observing right now and if that vote is successful a trial of sorts presided by the chief justice of the u.s. supreme court then happens in the senate and 2 thirds of the senate need to vote to convict and remove president but the trial could take place after as we've just been hearing from allen after donald trump leaves the white house that's when democrats will have

a narrow majority in the senate but 16 republican votes would still be needed so let's take a closer look at it we can speak now to matthew mecca we had a welcome to the program say he's a republican political consultant and chairman of the possum strategy group joins us via skype from austin in texas so nothing if we have right to assume that this will go through the house without too much problem the question is then what happens when it reaches the senate. yeah i mean your report laid it out pretty well there you know you have to understand that the senate has a couple variables at play here the 1st is that under the current rules in the senate that senate majority leader mitch mcconnell who will very soon become the north leader cannot bring the senate back until january 20th the less all $100.00 senators agree a so-called innocence remit and that's start going to happen even if impeached who passes today as we expect with maybe 10 or 12 or 14 republicans voting yes you're

not going to get a 100 senators to agree to move to a trial so that that prevents that from happening now the 2nd issue is have the 2 democrats who won this senate runoff in georgia as soon as they get seated as soon as their races are certified chuck schumer the democrat the coast majority leader he has said he believes there is an arcane rule that allows him to move quickly if both the majority leader in the minority leader agree to come back absent a u.c. agreement 2nd so i'll just jump in that we just need to go back to the house reps and we'll come back to math in a middle bit of time with this one a. couple health innocent in my mind that from the office immediately so that he could not be a threat to our democracy i stand ready the fulfill my oath of office and i challenge my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. to do the same i yield back gentlemen yield gentleman from massachusetts reserve

chairman from oklahoma is recognized magnus big we continue to reserve gentlemen from all the merger gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. this is purely because she an enemy is consent to insert into the record a new york times article published creamery night and i said on the. return to matthew. republican political consultant and chairman of the post my stuff you wrote so much you would talk about said what happens next without the really what i guess we need to focus on is what happens when as and when it does happen when that vote takes place and what is your sense of how many republicans are going to go for don't trump the convict. yeah i mean this is interesting because in the house you know you only have i think 5 now who are on record saying they're going to vote yes on peach but that does include as you report said earlier liz cheney the number 3 ranking republican and i think. she's more from the sort of hawkish side of the republican party the interventionist wing you might call it

a vote military wing but that is going to provide some cover for some members that said i don't expect more than 15 the house members of the republican side to do this maybe 10 or 12 at the end of the day so it's going to be you know 110th or or less of the republican conference alternately that's it's likely to do this maybe even 5 percent the senate i think it's going to be different because you had a report the new york times late last night that that the senate majority of its mcconnell is leaning in favor of supporting impeachment i sat happens i do believe you will have 16 at least republicans vote for a vote for i guess removal from office would technically be the term even though by then he will likely be out of office so there are a lot of variables here when do the democrats take control of the senate because that mean a lot of sense of faster how quickly does the house speaker transmitted to the senate what is switch mcconnell doing what does that mean in terms of the vote in the senate you're a lot of variables right now. and then the constitutional questions i think are real. if you can't remove the president from office because he's already left

office is a constitutional to hold a trial i think it's been much of censoring is also an alternative tell us about life. yeah this is actually my preference personally and i'd hoped president trump responsible for what happened on wednesday when he brought up that crowd in person he used the social media account to do it and not he stood lying to the public into his face for at least a month and once the legal options were exhausted he should have conceded and promised a peaceful orderly transition we could have avoided all of this but censure is a weaker option but it is an option that basically puts every member of the house and every member of the senate on record holding him accountable and blaming him for what happened and it is part of history i believe bill clinton was censured for remember correctly during the impeachment the fact that if i remember correctly and the good news about censure is they can move quickly to house 2 of censure tomorrow in the senate and could move it on the 20th or 21st as well which would have little

overwhelming ours is or probably 7580 percent maybe 85 percent in both houses would vote to censure it's a strong signal it doesn't prevent him from running again if he wants to in 2024 but i think at this point given all the variables his age his health is legal liability of state in new york the political fallout from from this chapter last wednesday the odds that he runs again are very very very low he's going to have a number of significant problems once he leaves office and they don't. come back to a little bit later is that the hours roll on matthew. should say thanks very much indeed so let's return to capitol hill where the u.s. house of representatives has opened the 2nd session of the month when it gets president on the trail for some innocent one united voice for the house does not rush to judgment on the most consequential action we can take we deserve better than that mr speaker and the american people deserve better than that mr speaker i urge my colleagues as they reflect on this matter and we move into our next stage

of debate to remember the rob privilege to represent a great and a good people who've gone through a horror a horrifying and tragic time and that we owe them the opportunity to reflect and we owe them our best efforts to bring together. i know people on this floor feel very passionately about this subject with different points of view i honor each one of those points of view and i honor the people that voice them and let's remember when we're through this that we're one people and we have one purpose that we're free to do the grace of god and millions of brave americans over centuries of time and we will remain that way and we will move forward together once we settle this debate but that mr speaker i urge my colleagues to vote no on the previous question no on the rule no on the underlying measure and i yield back the balance

of my time general use that balances time gentleman from massachusetts is recognize thank you mr speaker and let me thank my friend the ranking member the rules committee mr cole for his friendship and for the way he conducted conducts himself in this chamber i know he has great respect for this institution. mr speaker it is impossible for me to fully capture the reverence that i have of the united states capitol and i worked on these grounds starting back when i was a college intern working for senator george mcgovern back in 1977 no relation great last name. but since that time i have done everything from working as a staffer for a congressman joe moakley of massachusetts to being elected to the united states house of representatives myself but that internship will always be a high point of my life for coming here for the 1st time walking these hallowed halls and seeing the glory of american democracy up close the idea that someone

would incite and out of control mob of homegrown fascists and domestic terrorists to desecrate the people's house fills me with a deep sadness for our country the contempt that these people had for our democracy and our freedom fills me with horror. and what donald trump did encouraging them fills me with rage rage not just on behalf of all of those serving here but all of those who work in these halls and i'm talking about the reporters the cafeteria workers the custodians the clerks the problem and terry and i go on and on and on and the staff the democratic staff the republican staff the nonpartisan support staff who were terrorized some hiding under their desks and barricading in their offices i was in the speaker's chair the day this unfolded and

many of the people who are sitting up there now were present at that time what a horrifying thing for anybody to have to experience now some of my republican friends have been trying to lecture us about unity here today unity after they voted to overturn a free and fair election in the united states of america but also preaching unity. and not acknowledging that for 4 years many of them gave oxygen the donald trump's conspiracy theories to the big lies they turned the other way in the face of racism and bigotry and and how he embraced some of the most intolerant loyce is in this country i just let it go you know i will remind everybody here though words have consequences and ignoring words that are wrong also have consequences you know what happened would never have happened

if everybody stood up and unity and called out the president when he was not telling the american people to truth when he was pushing a big law. we will never have unity without truth. and also without accountability this week in congress we saw the best of us and the worst of us some of my colleagues have shown that they will defend this president no matter what he does there is nothing that he could do that would just waved them from all over support but some are standing up and doing the right thing under tremendous pressure and i am proud of that and i honor them for their courage this impeachment resolution outlines the truth of what trump did it is time that this congress now holds him accountable for his words and for their devastating impact last week we took an oath to protect this nation as history calls on us today i pray that we all have

the moral clarity to uphold it here today with that mr speaker i yield back the balance of my time and i move the previous question on the resolution of the question is on order in the previous question on the resolution those in favor say aye. those opposed no 0 in the opinion of the chair the habit mr speaker on that i would request the a's and nays are soon to section 3 s. of house resolution 8 the asian age are ordered members will record their votes by electronic device. sure just a reminder this is the scene that on capitol hill with votes been taking place as the u.s. house of representatives begun debate the legislation to impeach president donald

trump for the 2nd time of his presidency which would indeed be history making event the house has been debating the rules surrounding the article of impeachment these voting rules will then proceed to the main debate which is about the. the terms of the impeachment of donald trump and if it's approved as expected it's going to take place at a later in the day charging trent with inciting insurrection in a speech that he made last week that let's rotting in the u.s. come let's bring in our correspondent heidi jackassery who's been following events and he said this is the 1st phase if you like of the proceedings for today. that's right this is all building up to the final vote which we will not expect until perhaps early or mid evening today on that impeachment article democrats in mass have signed on to this more than 200 are co-sponsoring this one article which

would accuse president trump of inciting violence against the u.s. government and we know of at least 5 republicans in the house who have gone on the record saying they will also vote to impeach and you're hearing much of the democrats who are just debating the rules earlier. talk about the merits of this case and quoting a fellow republican liz cheney who is the number of her republican in the chain or in that in the chamber and has released a strongly worded statement saying that president trump lit the flame of attack leading to that violent mob taking over the capitol building a week ago today we're seeing this as a drastic difference between the 1st time trump was impeached about a year ago in which there was not one republican who broke ranks in. house to vote for his impeachment today we're expecting somewhere around a dozen some are saying up to 20 who will likely vote to impeach the president but

democrats saying it is inciting this violence trying to overturn a democratic election are not an impeachable offense is that what our. say this will now set the stage for a vote later in the day on the passage of this all to them piece from charging trump with inciting insurrection it is expected that the house will approve that strom be impeached the question is what happens then. right there are several potential outcomes here nancy pelosi the house speaker a leader the democrats will be up to her when to transmit the articles from my understanding though that can't happen unless the senate is in session and it's not going to be in session until january 20th after joe biden's inauguration so there would have to be some unprecedented parliamentary maneuver and i'm there's been plenty already for the 2nd impeachment so that it's not outside the realm of

possibility that the articles could be trans sooner and that there could be a rush to senate trial but more likely is that nothing will happen until after biden takes office so many are asking then what is the point of this if an impeachment is to remove president from office full of trump is already out then what's the point where democrats are saying it's important to hold this president accountable in the eyes of history and that making that statement and impeaching him trying him in the senate would be the most important tool to defend us democracy going into the future so at this point it is not a question of if trump would go on trial in the senate that's a question of when whenever that does happen there is also been a remarkable shift politically on that side as we know democrats will soon control the chamber but right now mitch mcconnell remains the majority leader there of the republicans and he has been reportedly saying that he is pleased that this

impeachment is going forward there's a lot more shifting that could happen the between now and whenever a senate trial does start before mitch mcconnell to send out that signal now has ample cover to republicans who want to break ranks from trump and it could potentially motivate or give cover to senate republicans to vote for and eventually conviction 2 thirds of the senate would need to vote to can. the president that's somewhere between $16.17 republicans at this point and while that would have been unimaginable a year ago when trump was impeached the 1st time for him to be convicted all this time around it is a it is a possible it is a possibility that many are considering what the practical outcome of holding trump accountable and also potentially barring him from returning to public office you have to defend it's a possibility heidi for the timing thanks very much how did your kuster there let's switch across to the white house and fisher is standing by there or not and no

american president since republic was born 240 odd years ago and has ever been in peace twice but that will most certainly change. whens day meanwhile donald trump says it's just part of the continuation of a witch hunt against him. exactly right he sees this as a political battle he's not one of those that tends to back down from those when he spoke on tuesday he said that it was just an extension of the witch hunt which is something he's described that russia investigation as and also of course the impeachment process which started about a year ago he doesn't believe that he is going to be impeached certainly he was pretty confident that he wouldn't be removed under the 25th amendment in a meeting with mike pence on monday it seems that that was perhaps a bit of an awkward meeting given that donald trump made the comments he did and mike pence was at the house and was a bit worried about the crowds that came and it was actually him that was making calls to the pentagon to see if they could get support up there but the 2 seem to

have patched up their differences at the moment and mike pence making a comment overnight that he simply wouldn't invoke the 25th amendment which could remove the president from office simply because he felt that it was being used as a punishment on the 25th talks about really people who are fit and capable to be president so he walked away from that so no donald trump has to encounter the possibility of being impeached by the house and we have several republicans saying that they will vote for that to happen before any motion is then passed to the senate now we understand that kevin mccarthy who is the leader of the republicans in the house approached nancy pelosi the leader of the democrats and said he could perhaps get a much bigger vote behind the idea of simply censuring don't trump which you've been speaking about of course in the last 10 minutes or so but nancy pelosi said no the feeling in her caucus with the democrats was that there had to be an

impeachment hearing and that's exactly what we're seeing now but then the to that of course is the to say that there is a significant danger with these impeachment proceedings proceedings and that all it does is is fuel division across the country at a time when the nation can ill afford it to say the least. well let's break down what the arguments are on one hand you have the republicans saying don't do this you will create division in the country and there is the possibility then that that will spark more violence and you simply cannot push ahead with impeachment what the democrats are saying is you can't preach about unity and bringing the country together when a week ago a number of you voted against set defying a result which was carried out 3 fairly and freely and they ended up in the election of someone that you didn't want as president also you cannot be seen to give in to people who threaten violence you can't give in to the billy you can't

see or kid then well we won't have the impeachment proceeding because it might spark some more violence and we certainly don't want to see that so despite the fact that both sides are talking unity that's so far apart they are and at the moment the democrats have the upper hand in the house and of course in a week's time they will have the upper hand in the senate because when the 2 new senators from georgia are sworn in that will make the balance in the senate $5050.00 and of course the casting vote in any time i will go to the vice president who will become the hottest the difference is of course for impeachment you've got to get 2 thirds but mitch mcconnell who's the leader of the republicans in the senate has already said that he thinks donald trump has committed impeachable offenses will he still think that once donald trump is out of office you know it's of course there's a question then about well donald trump resigning to avoid being impeached for a 2nd time. if you've been watching over the last 4 years you would suggest that that isn't the sort of person that normal trump is he always has the capacity to

surprises but he tends to double down when he's in trouble he tends to day again he believes that you should come out fighting in these circumstances his ability to do that is limited because of course you've been removed from so many social media platforms but having said that he still has a briefing room just over there he still has a lot of media there and he has a press pool that is dedicated to covering his every move every single day he's in office so if it any point he wanted to come out and see anything we're right here right i do you do wonder if he's holed up somewhere in that building behind you as to the president's state of mind all this going on in the on capitol hill as you say social media media have targeted him and banned him from the platforms business interests of being targeted it's all happening. exactly i mean his business interests and the big impact on him over the weekend would have been 2 things one being kicked off of twitter 88000000 followers and many people thought that would

be the basis of monetizing the level of support that he had after he left the white house if you wanted to raise money that's where he could go the other thing that donald trump likes as well as twitter is golf and we know that over the weekend the p.g.a. of america decided it was removing one of its major tournaments the p.g.a. championship from his course at bedminster and then the royal and ancient the governing body in the u.k. decided it would remove it wouldn't be taking the open championship to tunbridge his course that he owns in scotland while donald trump is still in charge and then let's put the cherry on the icing just in the last few hours new york city that for so long donald trump calls holden the city where he was born has said that they're cutting all business ties with the trump organization tries to overthrowing $17000000.00 a year eric trump who runs the trump organization along with his brother dawn jr has a statement in the last couple of hours saying that hold on

a 2nd new york who is a $30000000.00 from the work that we've already done they have a binding contract this is simply political prejudice and they will take it to court i think bill de blasio who is the mayor of new york knew exactly that's where this was heading but he believes he is a firm case saying that they can cut contracts with any business that is involved in illegal activities and they suggest that donald trump inciting an insurrection is more than enough cause to make sure that those contracts are canceled so donald trump is not having a good week and of course we are no just a week and 2 hours a week and one hour and 12 minutes away from the end of the trump presidency some would suggest the end of the trump presidency. this time around because he still has a keen eye on running again in 2024 going its way out and thanks very much allan

fisher there at the white house and as one thing alan was just talking about new york mayor bill de blasio says the city is canceling its contract with the trump organization after supporters rioted at the nation's capital the contracts with 2 ice skating rinks and a carousel at central park it also includes the city own goal of course in the bronx and a number of other companies have moved to cut ties with the trump organization as well in the wake of last week's right so let's take a closer look at all that we can bring in eric levitz who's a senior writer at new york magazine joins us via skype from in massachusetts eric welcome to the program so 1st up what's your reaction to this this targeting of not just on the social media platforms but now it's business interest to you and it's kind of disorienting for those of us who'd been following trump the past 5 years in seeing him over and over again you know getting away with figurative murder on basically a daily basis you know insulting prisoners of war or the handicapped. being caught

on tape talking about his love of sexually assaulting women and then still winning the presidency and it's been really disorienting the past week to see that the trump presidency is ending in this kind of morality tale where his refusal. to accept defeat is his putting victory above everything else is costing him sort of everything that he deluge from his twitter platform to his position within minutes in real estate which you know growing up is a sign of a a real state family that was very strong in queens but had yet to break into the the really elite in manhattan you know this was always a really animating passion for trump to be a big manhattan real estate presence and now that's at risk right 1 may well imagine there will be more to come in the p.g.a. the professional government sensation said that it will take the p.g.a. championship away from his new jersey golf course next year what kind of impact do

you think this is going to have on the the trump business empire remember designated by congress member and what the trump business empire is in quite a bit in trouble already you know we have to remember that one this organization was not the most robust business to begin with when he ran for president. and since then there's been a lot of political backlash you know to basically trump used to be an icon that stood poor it kind of somewhat sleazy understanding of success now he's an iconic kind of represents the fragility of american democracy or like political rock. so it was already sort of hurting is business and then remember he's a hospitality and he's in the hospitality business during a pandemic so even everything else aside that has been difficult in your organization within the next few years it has about $400000000.00 in outstanding loans that are going to come to you earlier in his career when he had better relationships with wall street banks trump was able to sort of refinance and roll over these kinds of loans. right now we're seeing you know it's all across wall

street and in the corporate sector more generally find disassociate themselves from trump so i think he's going to have a very difficult time finding credit and finding a way to make these loans were of course what about the legal action side of things because there's so much in the offing to her. yeah and that seems to be. interleaved with the business concerns because they believe that bill de blasio basis for saying that he can cancel these contracts is that there's a stipulation in it that you know it becomes void if the person taking the contract you know sitting in gauging criminal activity was so these things they were glinting that way their ongoing investigations already in terms of i believe financial crimes the new york you know and now we have this incitement angle that is being looked into i believe but it by the f.b.i. and local authorities right now donald trump for his part of course says that this is all nothing more than political discrimination that he's just been targeted and

part of the ongoing witch hunt by the democrats he says we will fight he likes a court case there's no way this is likely to go on and on. he's a very litigious individual yes so i imagine this is going to drag out for quite some time and in possibly might to keep him too busy. to really make a political impact. i don't know that as of a couple weeks ago we were all preparing for trying to exit office perhaps start his own media company perhaps latch on to someone else and be a constant. presence in the peanut gallery of american politics and building up his position for 2020 for what we had in the last week as i think one of your correspondents mentioned yes he's been kicked out of twitter but he still can call in to fox news whenever he wants and go to the podium whenever he wants and he's been quieter than we've ever seen him it is really hard to know what's going on there it's possible that he will be really get by with trying to stay out of prison

and keep solved all this is happening as as a case is under way just looking at whether or not he should be impeached and he was certainly will be what you think the impact on his business interests the the trump in business empire would be if he was then convicted in that impeachment you know i'm not sure how different it will be in one scenario the other i think the main consequence of impeachment is preventing him from being able to run or threaten to run and getting leverage from the republican party sort of by saying like ari if i don't run 2020 or here's what you know your what i want the positions i want to dump you you're in a blanket out in the party or whatever i think it eliminates his leverage of the republican party if he's disqualified from running in 2020 or in terms of his business empire i think that brand is already. busy images already done whether or not he's. early live it's great to get your perspectives do appreciate that there is a senior writer at your magazine thank you so much for that. returns

a couple hillary speak. proceedings are under way in the house of representatives debating legislation to impeach president donald trump for the 2nd time in his presidency we can join how did your country. observing events from outside the house just remind us of where we're at it's and what's the rest of the day holds install. sure we're seeing a series of procedural votes right now that setting up the debate that we will see unfold in a few hours time in which members will talk about the actual article in question the article he meant which charges president trump for inciting violence against the u.s. government now there's already been some fireworks on the house floor we expected that as members are really trying to use all the time afforded to them even in these procedural maneuver is to deliver that message democrats saying that if there is any impeachable offense this would be it and republicans who are trying

to defend against impeachment not so much defending what trumps actions were all has denounced the violence that we saw here a week ago but republicans are saying that this procedure is going too fast that this impeachment like the one previous is being done in a hastened manner and republicans saying that this is not the time to disunified the country even further and you know they have some evidence as to just how divided this country remains which is really the one similarity i see between this impeachment and the previous one previously the country was about evenly divided when trump was impeached for his call to ukraine's president this time around a new poll shows that about 55 percent of americans think that this 2nd. the pietschmann should move forward i should also note about the increased security

presence here on capitol hill leading up to joe biden's inauguration which again makes this historic moment with an even bigger inflection point the secret service is taking over coordination of the security response today they are backed up by 15000 national guard troops that has never been seen before in this nation's capital leading up to and in iraq you in now your ation with u.s. intelligence saying that there is the potential for more armed riots leading up to a week from today january 20th when joe biden will take office and there has also been some democrats in the house who have accused their republican colleagues of aiding in the planning of the rally that we saw last week that led to the violence and we even heard some statements some democrats saying that they had seen their g.o.p.

colleagues giving quote surveillance tourists to groups of trump's supporters in the day prior to the riot now. republicans are now on record saying that they are valley bipartisan investigation into the violence that we saw the rioting there trying to offer that up as a sort of. other option instead of going forward with this impeachment saying that they want joe biden to appoint a bipartisan commission to investigate however democrats are certainly not going to accept that and we expect that all democrats will vote to impeach the president joined by a dozen to 20 republicans in the house to impeach him as well making him the only u.s. president to be impeached twice there in hollywood. a minute before the top just quickly just so you know what happens after this and then the house will vote to

impeach donald trump on what next. i wonder right then the article of impeachment has to be paraded through the rotunda as we saw year go and deliver to the senate where president trump will be put on trial but will he even be president when that happens will he be former president trial president trump that is remaining question because we are not exactly sure what will happen democrats on the record saying they want this impeachment trial to happen a spot it's possible they think it is possible to do it before trouble ease off this in a week's time however republicans are saying that it is impossible that mitch mcconnell the republican leader in the senate would have to call the senate back into session it's not even supposed to be in session until after the inauguration so there's a lot of a lot unknowns there but what we do know is that trump will be impeached today by all indications he will be tried in the senate eventually and it appears that mcconnell says he is pleased that this impeachment is going forward with which is

a seismic shift in the loss of support that trump is seeing now as the republican leader in the senate has said has has not stood in the way of this impeachment so different from one year ago today how to take us through thanks to the excellent a that's what it took us through the capitol hill but could do a little bit later. it is $600.00 g.m.t. that is 11 o'clock in the morning in washington d.c. where an unprecedented session is under way on capitol hill politicians deciding whether to impeach donald trump for the 2nd time it would be the 1st time the u.s. president has been impeached twice democrats accuse him of encouraging his supporters to attack the capitol building a week ago that aiming to challenge him with incitement of insurrection.