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yeah for the last 2 years elephants are giving us love and we are giving them love back they don't come to the village often anymore and when they do they just pass by quietly they don't harm anything that is vivier tanker to them. wildlife officials say creating me isn't a permanent solution because they lure elephants out of their natural habitat. but the villages of there found a way to live in harmony but the animals come out and there's a bit al-jazeera. georgiades there with me said the reminder of our top news stories donald trump has become the 1st us president to be impeached for a 2nd time the house of representatives for me charged with inciting violence over the storming of the capitol building last week the left 5 people dead 10 republicans joined democrats to back the move well made no mention of his
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impeachment in a video message on twitter released soon after the proceedings but in a change of tone he condemned last week's violence and called the unity. i want to be very clear. unequivocal a condemn the violence that we saw last week. violence and vandalism have absolutely no place in our country and no place in our movement making america great again has always been about defending the rule of law supporting the men and women of law enforcement and up holding our nation's most sacred traditions and values in other news voting is underway in uganda's general election longtime president 70 is facing a serious challenge from opposition politician bobby why in the run up to the vote has been plagued by violence south korea's top court has upheld a 20 year prison sentence handed down to the former president park geun hye for corruption park's involvement in bribery and other crimes led to mass protests and
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2017 and ultimately being removed from office china has reported its 1st quote advised death in 8 months as the country battles a resurgence in cases the fate tallaght in her bay province where most of the country's new cases have emerged 138 new infections were reported on thursday the highest single daily tally since march iran has committed another breach of the 2050 nuclear deal with world powers to iran says it started working on new radium a metal based fuel for a research reactor it's the latest in a series of breaches that started in 2019 in response to the u.s. withdrawing from the agreement and re imposing sanctions you can follow those stories of course on our website at al-jazeera dot com about the more news in half an hour next is the stream. what a zombie of a drink with the money that it's boy we bring you stories in the event of a change in. argentina's congress debated else it is to raise billions of dollars
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for the super rich families hit by that country. al-jazeera. by afternoon ok you're watching news stream on today's episode we're going to be looking at this book mediocre the dangerous legacy of white male america is a job or a lou oh nice to see you walk into the stream is great to have you for a whole 25 minutes that is not going to be enough but we're going to do our best job with the title of the book how many people do you think you trigger it was the title alone. you know it was hilarious to me because i think that we've been talking about the local rag man for a very long time and i felt like it was shocking to me when people were blouses about the file because i'm like it's almost what we call this so some people
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certainly were upset about it but also i think a lot of what i've heard of the book those are people who are that when the people back you know i have definitely by people who know if something is not and there are a lot of people who recognize this phenomenon and want to know more about it and how it works and what we can do. you took a moment for you which is quite a custom moment which is the start of the signing that you wanted to write the book and in what you write each very universal can you take us back to that moment when you thought i need to put this down in a book. certainly and then talk about this in the beginning of the book you know the inspiration for this. modern. life and the frustration but a killer moment in the moment was trying to be in the road to treat with other women and this was a principle a lot to focus on. you know that was what we developed because women so rarely get a chance to focus on their work and all we could really talk about and what one of
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the talk about were these men these white man that were impacting our laotian are so helpful and. i think that's. what is behind this you know i kept seeing the story unfold in front of the path that led to where we were and where we are today and i wanted others. so that we could start looking at the power it's a look at society as a whole set of treating each individual. part of the systemic and so i wanted to really show that story that. we are right now if you'd like to do you absolutely can't jump into the comments section be part of today's discussion question start with edward mckinley who is a b. and of your. inner vs the author wrote that if you are waging war and raised and living in america you are
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a racist and we will not be able to reckon with our history of white supremacy our history of racial violence until white people like me are ready to lean into that shack to construct some very strong and powerful in our work as far as questions for the author i have a 1000000 but i also think it's important that people like myself start doing the work for themselves instead of putting people of color in the position of having to mentor us teach us and guide us and ultimately make us feel better about everything we need to do this work it's our turn. you know i think that's very true that we live the work and i think it's also important to recognize when people hear. someone say the way in. which there was a society at the very were you are racist what. people get upset because they're like i'm so over for love but the truth is as we're talking about suspects in them and we're talking about overarching stories about the loud roar of populations of
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color that we can't know what is in some form and so it is important if you do have that love if you do so when there was nothing but love in my heart with you it will all races and ethnicities that you know where when then to investigate their complicity in violence that our current populations of color i want to just go back a few days on twitter how lucky here my laptop and then we go to gemas book. and then we have a protester absolute riot i finished reading this book yesterday question etic and then a german you write a whole book about the violence of white melman to quote mediocrity and then you look at the news coming from d.c. and you say to yourself yeah traffic's you take us back in your book to the wild west when the european 2nd this came to united states in the 1st place and that is where you start with your journey and that's
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a little bit like that mean this is how it started this is how we're doing if you if this is how we're doing is the capitol building riot how do you how do you do that timeline between those 2 things it's almost like you knew what was going to happen. you know i would say it's interesting because people have been asking how can you know how do you know when to put this book out read this book read a great have and unfortunately i think any time would be the right time i think that if you don't know your history this looks like a surprise to you how it has come from but if you know your history you know the sort of violence was inevitable could you have a little step on this violent path who've been around since the founding of this country you know was founded on violence and oppression and the power that it has been that way and any time there's a threat to it to the sponsors it's incredibly violent especially to white no power and so if we look at history we see this over and over again you know starting with
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the founding of this country through the experience was through the west will genocide a lot of people and we see this you know time and time again whenever we make social progress through the civil rights movement we see this violent backlash and what we're seeing today you know is that same ideology but idea that might makes right and that white people in particular a white man have manifest destiny and have a god given right to the land and the people. we're seeing today that reaffirmation of that entitlement when it feels threatened by social progress. coming from you chip william by putting everybody in the same bracket tsunami shaped. a race is not racist a number of people are quite frustrated that they feel as if you are talking to everybody who is a white male. yes i am and i am not necessarily
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saying that every white man is you know out protesting and or out trying to have a coup. actively openly supported by what's been said but what i'm saying is that we have a problem in white male identity and the white power structure that's what i'm talking about is a power structure in the most predominant and powerful power structure in this country not just in that white supremacist patriarchy and i would say you know even in the u.k. we see this as well and so absolutely this has been built in the image whether you like it or not if you are in white now and that means because you benefit from that you have some responsibility for it and you need to look at it openly if you can't handle hearing about it because it makes you feel implicated without stopping and going wait am i implicated isn't yet sofar you're not actually in fasted in making change you value your comfort over the ways in which this violent system is
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crushing willing people of color. look in your book this is about status by making politeness and mellowness to. disinter vice white men from working to prevail exchanges if you're constantly saying to be great just to being a male why would you struggle to make a real contribution who do you know in this felt that you have seen who everybody construct description name names oh i mean. i would say you know right now 6 what we're looking at in this country is textbook for this if we're looking at. you know many of the people of arsenic we're looking at the president of this country who are looking at the leaders of many of those who. are white men who give the promise that you could be an everyday joe no special talent and you deserve greatness not
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what you need daring what you need is the ability to overpower other and the new and none of these will of course actually need that but people want that you know i think part of the appeal of people like say donald trump is that he made any kind of bumbling person who is afraid of their own we are pretty unfairly or feel like they can to lose when we look at france business for her you know this is not when you go. the slick the special extra smart choices what you think you see is sort of who fills up more time and time again and that is what we've been told everyone you know every white male should be able to have and so we see them scored a grand scale but i would also say if people ever worked in any kind of office setting or even academia you see this time and time again where someone looks better and then they can actually lead but because they think this person. they are moving ahead of the people who are actually creating and want more but i will also
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say part of what the speaks to is is a direct conflict because there are many white. when you think you know exactly what it needs to be great and what it takes what they find what is asked of them expected of them isn't actually greatness and there is an internal conflict that as well while i'm often feel like failures because perhaps their actions are bringing the success of promise but it is exactly what our society is calling them to do or to strike out alone never compromise aggression and of crushing to get ahead and when it doesn't work when it isn't rewarded the said well you know we'll talk about what people do wrong you know and when it's not really have an answer or fulfillment they're wondering whether right or wrong and so we have to recognize this is this is something that harms everyone including what. is a part of the book when you take a moment to talk about some very high profile congresswomen you who came into power in 28 he said alexander ok 02 tests they'll hand i am
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a christian and she determined and how then just being in a traditionally male space was irritating the president of the united states and also a lot of people around them including their own democratic party so last summer i just want to take a little moment where the furious that gave a press conference and spoke about they were not going to be deterred by the president or anybody who was criticizing what they were doing and how they were doing it have a listen. despite the occupant of the white house a chance to marginalize us and to silence us please know that we are more than 4 people. we re not a mandate to advocate for and to represent those ignored left out and left behind.
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i think any person committed to building an equitable and just. state's policy as you can see one of those 4 women and having struggles battling the establishment what is going on as it is done such and such an e. it's inside. and i think it's also a threat to our power structures i think it's really important to recognize that the cross party line people are invested in making sure that any progress we make doesn't rock the boat too much believe then last political circles and what these women represent with their new ideas with their all apologetic focus on the most marginalized populations in our society is a threat to grow the structures that you know that keep our leadership on the left on top as well and so absolutely we see this but also in.
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white america it's the fault that someone who doesn't look like them would represent something completely not only foreign hostile to that and so they have not you know trying to emulate the you know white not trying to over focus on the most privileged part of our population over the needs of them their privileged for them makes them feel like this is not their representative it doesn't represent them and therefore doesn't represent america because we have allowed the united states to be synonymous with whiteness in this country and so i do think it is both inside and racism that impacts these 4 women of color who are really trying to leave voices for her to questions. this is mr. dangerous black male america.
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you know i think that what we're looking at when we look at patriarchy. is dangerous across racial and ethnic spectrums and i would absolutely say you know as a black woman that many. you know that is a risk to us wherever we see cuts masculinity and the. one who is. black male america is incredibly doesn't howard and i would say in a risk to our systems to leverage what america is quite low and talk about this what i'm talking about our power structure when we say who is a power structure look at representation when we look at even you know a great story we're at who is in our marriage offices and who is in our you know cortical in our government we're not seeing an overabundance of black men to make choices you know that harm us and so i would say in fact what we're seeing is the systemic of liberal disenfranchisement and you know inclusiveness of black men in
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this country by a white supremacist system so i would say the danger as a political structure doesn't exist. what people are wrestling with right now and it's interesting because you've written another book about race which is so you want to talk about race and how difficult it is for some people to even just talk about the obvious that's right in front of. people now in 2021 arresting of. some white males taking out their frustration and then becoming violent and this is what challenge this is how janet friends and leaders to see how you see that journey to silence. the crisis of white masculinity in america is the crisis of america itself and
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here's why men feel that they are the victims of perceived persecution or the belief that they are being left behind in the global economy or any number of cultural wars and conflicts they are becoming more and more radicalized and willing to join a specialist of movements anti-democratic movements and are becoming more and more politically and also physically violent was interesting in your book gemma was that divine it started right at the very beginning from taking away lands from native americans it didn't seem like it was a new kind of violence and that's what my takeaway was from watching and reading your book in your analysis that it was fine and like the beginning of the start of america as european americans know. absolutely and i think that we have to recognize that the founding of this country was in front of you while an an
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horrific and started not only with the genocide of one population of color but with the force incitement of another and then this country was built over generation after generation of exploitation of labor of color we have to recognize that that history didn't go away that in fact you know our founding institutions in this country were built to uphold those power structures and to make sure that that wasn't polling and if we don't recognize that we learn our history a little learn how to this is violence is in the bible in our institutions we will not we have to rid ourselves of. a higher you know education siskel built office violence doesn't expire criminal justice system built of the sort of expire. the system doesn't just expire and we have to actually investigate and tear apart the ways. to find lots of tennis. new she began it's really inspiring a lot of conversations i know i know you're used to this this is fine with derek
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how long is it going to take the full things ever change since it seems america has always had this issue what are the many things that will lead to change you ask this question all the time. i really am and i think it's really important to recognize that part of why we haven't been able to make arrests and so there's a couple of things that happened while it was that we have you know almost exclusively frank discussions on race was going on around personal feelings and personal animus. if you walk around actively hating people of color you are sexist if you walk around actively hating women and if you're not who you are a good person part of the solution but what we're actually talking about are systems we're talking about systems built to advantage some populations over other systems built to exploit the labor of members of our population and to give people a sense of part with that explanation and oppression and we are told to look at you
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know personal relationships only because people make money off of the system and gain power from the system about what is looking at it so that when we do well in good systems right really start to make political change systemic change what we see is in the media the violent backlash like we saw this past week. because people are so afraid of systemic change and so we have to recognize it's by design that we have a better addressing in making the sort of change in our systems because we've been told time and time again it's not possible and that's where the problem lines or we have been punished. for adult progress we make in that area and so it is vital that we look at that and recognize that this is where our work lies and you have to click through we have never ending opportunities we shift into adult life because they are not to move but we are told that they are and we are led to believe that they are so that we will do the work but we are powerful if we come together and actually start engaging in our systems to push for change we can create it and that
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if we could create it there wouldn't be such a violent backlash towards our conflicts because people see that change coming and they are afraid of. a.g.n. is a society so a community organizer and misses his take about now what to eat. i think there are a lot of people in the united states that are ready to reckon with racism and white supremacy and the majority of those people are by around indigenous and people of color. you know why supremacy is something that our very existence and that is pervasive and there are within every system of this country and so i think it was require white people are. giving up. the advantages that they have more than your heart otherwise and so that will be the challenge and i will always be the challenge generalising i really wanted to touch on because you speak so
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comfortably and confidently about white supremacy patriarchy but when you work on a book like this there is a a toll when you talk about racism and white supremacy and hate and people who don't like you talking about that make it very very clear can you show that part of your work do you mind. yeah you know i think that anyone who especially if you're a person of color chris if you're a black woman. when you threaten the system the system comes back for you and people who are invested in system come to you and say absolutely my experience while it might seem extreme if you're not doing this work is not unfamiliar to many back of all who have been fighting for liberation and for change in this country and so you know we have been threatened we have had you know officers brought to our home when we were we have had to move from our home due to regular harassment
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and threats in our home they says a regular occurrence and it's i am not alone and if you look at history and even if you look at the book you'll see time and time again generation after generation the way in which people are made to pay christie he grew up around the systems but i think it's also important to note that this comes from people every day people who are writing about whites who haven't see every day people of color who do something anything that inconveniences the power structure into meaning says whiteness in this country we are often met with a violent backlash and we see this in one of our news stories where you know black people can't have a barbecue or you know sell lemonade without someone calling the police on them. violent rapper cautions who are waiting for all of us who matter what we do if we ever challenge the system or even. look and this is really strange i'm going to
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ask if you could. leave it well was at the end of the show how do you have these types of conversations with people who are west ily denial how racist america is. you know i would say this is good advice i'm going to give to white people because i believe that this is a conversation that we're going to have with each other i don't believe this is the do the people who have written about it because we have our books we have our articles you know we've said what needs to happen i would say to tell your own journey with other white people share how you came from believing this wasn't a problem because there was a time we need to get to where you are now and take people with you and take them on a path where they can join you in making change and also investigate where you still have to go and show people the changes you're working to make in yourself and in your life and in your community right now. joe a thank you so much for sharing your thoughts for unpacking a lot of your book to know what everything so if you want to read
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a john was read dictate this in the beautiful stories about history 90 states that you may know what you have how do we get to where we all right now so we're actually digging in team so see what's going to recommend to you one is on my laptop so you want to talk about race that's to those 1st book that agenda wrote and that was just a few years ago and that will help you have those uncomfortable conversations days rainy and they might get if she's in heaven so many book class with mediocre at the dangerous legacy of white male palla that is by. and that is one way that you can always say catch up with and look out for some of the ferry and maybe online events where you can see here and talk to a general a new a about her latest book you choose this thank you for your conversation really appreciated i thought he had a case side and also in the a.j. strain of additions to the allison an ex-con.
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to cope i'll just see the investigation 3 dates that stop the world. to day in a bipartisan way the house demonstrating that no one is above the law not even the president of the night in. the house of representatives votes to impeach donald trump for inciting an insurrection making him the 1st us president to be peach twice. so robin you watch al-jazeera lost my headquarters here in doha coming up in the next 30 minutes 10 republicans cross the political aisle to support trump's impeachment but most argued.
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