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attention all government understand her commitment to put a wired possible solution to your. kind of duct will develop electricity plants this 2nd news that they have been. to develop manufacturing plant. says he saved around a $1000000.00 a year on power since using paddy straw to fuel his factories he also paid leave saying 27000 dollars last year for the straw and what they both say is a win win situation for farmers industries and the environment elizabeth pradhan al-jazeera job. is al-jazeera these are all the top stories the u.s. capitol remains locked down with on president and security ahead of the inauguration of president elect joe biden
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a military green zone has been established in 25000 national guard troops have been deployed to at the hamid has moved from washington d.c. . washington d.c. has never seen as much security in recent history if ever you can just see behind me that's one of the many roadblocks that you will encounter if you have a drive around the capitol now this one is this 1st road block that sort of designates the green zone beyond that no traffic is allowed only residents or people working in that area can access and then after that there's another round there's another road block and that sort of the red zone. brazil has begun its national vaccination campaign giving a nurse from sao paolo the 1st job she was given the chinese made sin of vaccine that's off to set it back on the oxford astra zeneca vaccines were given emergency approval brazil has the 2nd highest death toll off the us at over $200000.00.
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millions of ugandans know no other leader thank you nobody must 70 yet again he has won another term in power but he's accused of cracking down on his opponents and critics so could dissent triggered turmoil in this african country this is inside story. i don't want to the program a convert one of africa's longest serving davis is heading toward 4 decades and poll after winning an election his opponent has branded a complete fraud but this time you got this president when he was 70 faced his toughest ever challenged from the pop star turned politician bobby whine on his
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being on the heavy gun at his home and what his supporters say is effectively house arrest conference or reports from come. grow. grow grow it did not come as a surprise president yoweri was 70 has maintained a decisive lead against his opponents from the start of the vote count the little commission declares you were 7200 were. elected president of the republic of uganda the president addressed the nation after his victory was declared and say despite attempts by some individuals to tamper with about metric identification kits the election was largely free and. illegal numbers. and voting for the. and for the parties. i think this may turn out to be the most.
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elections. supporters of the 76 year old incumbent cand out to celebrate a very grand and the most to support. this in the being the he's the one with. the electoral commission and they've done their best under the circumstances but already the results have been redacted by bobby wine said evidence of widespread irregularities including rigging in favor of president yoweri with 7050 members say they are considering moving to court to challenge the. other forms of rebellion that are not restricted to for the question of the credits and forms including chasing i will agents at the polling station including forcing people to vote in the open yet under the law i suppose the pov sekret by. the
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results so why not receive nearly 35 percent of the vote and his party the national unity platform has garnered a sizable number of legislative seats however he told us that his movements have been restricted and visitors including journalists have been blocked from accessing his compound by soldiers surrounding his home security official say they had information that he was planning to declare himself we know there's also been heavy deployment of police in the military in the capital and other areas perceived to be opposition strongholds the winner may have been declared by the country remains on edge catherine soy al jazeera. you know what it was 70 has ruled for 35 years and is now set to for another 5 is seen off a number of challenges over the years in 986 my 70 and his national resistance movement came to power the end of a 5 year war that have led uganda ever since he's been reelected president several
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times most recently in 2011 after 2005 constitutional amendment lifted limits on presidential terms went on to win again 2016 a year later parliament voted to remove an age limit of 75 years for presidential candidates allowing him to run again is supporters praise him for bringing relative peace and prosperity to the country while his critics accuse him of turning into yet another authoritarian leader. are now joined by our guests in london we have agnes gitau who is managing partner at g.b.'s a political and risk advisory firm on east africa and we have christophe teka singh electra at the institute of development at the university of antwerp he researches governance and conflict in uganda and because of the internet blackout in uganda joining us on the line is joseph the chair no senior member of uganda people's
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congress and opposition party a warm welcome to you wall i'd like to start with you joseph you're on the ground before we look at the challenges that were 70 faces now bobbie one has rejected the results as we heard there from catherine's pace but the one says he's considering norm violent options to challenge the results how do you see this playing out. it is very very interesting that. mr 70 at the beginning suggested that this would be the funniest elections this independence i think this will be an insult to democracy and indeed an insult to the people you can miss from a 70 very well but if he won the elections he won it in a manner which is completely contrary to the processes and the basics of democracy about how it will play around. here nor there i think unfortunately for us ugandans and i can tell you that i never knew i would be in a strange and like this where the electoral process in this country takes place
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within the context of. a people that would relate themselves eritrean or indeed in the last case scenario a north koreans i think it would be advised for the opposition to speak to as legal and means as possible meaning going to court and gathering as much evidence as possible i don't know how much or the line you has in terms of evidence together with the rest of the other organized democratic opposition in the country and i think that should happen i want to be able to participate and be play a part strategically politically and anything other than that mr sevan would seek to to try to rather crush it in a manner which he knows because having lost elections in 1980 he went to the bush he came to power militarily and i believe and i suggest that he has maintained power including through the elections the military and quasi force we should point out you mention the name rather cute. which is of course by the wind real name we
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should have mentioned that at the beginning of that comes you know christoph as someone who researches governance and conflict in uganda how tenuous do you see the situation right now dozens of people died in protest in the lead up to the vote how precarious is the peace right now. well i can't give an answer for the immediate situation and for the longer situation. and longer term to run up to the election and the election campaign the kind of measures for use and president of an election campaigns there has been the use of file and there has been arrests of positional leaders like you said decision before but the level of violence which is used has been and president that which even before the election actually happened raised more than serious concerns about them being free and fair about the election defend itself over the last couple of days well the internet blackout is more than
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symbolic because it doesn't allow information well documented information to come out of the country doesn't allow this information to circulate within the country and this is a major problem coming back to the question of pace i mean we've seen in the us a very different case but the president inciting his support is and we saw what happened at the capitol then i know that bobby wine has said we're going to look at nonviolent options considering all nonviolent options but like i said we have had people die in protests in the run up to this vote is the pace precarious. well that's a difficult question and it's to a certain extent and predictable the riots which happened in november they really surprised the government the government throughout the years has been ruling true carrot and true stick to stick through a strong control and through repression of position but these riots that caught
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them by surprise what will happen in the next weeks it's very clear that they will try to repress any form of protest as soon as possible but again it's had happened in the past also in 2011 when there were the so-called walk to work protests when you had a combination of inflation and this kind of this contentment and this can happen again to think lee because it will be one ski constituency is the young urban unemployed and they pose a potentially dangerous group for the regime agnes i had to bring in as christoph mentioned there the population is very young 80 percent of people in uganda under 35 how can my 70 work for them willingly work for them and even for the people who voted against them who say that he is the president of the of the previous generation has only brought uganda so far but now it's time to hand over the reins. i think many of realizes the importance of job for
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collation end in his address last right up to whom he was very clear it say he is going to do once they provide more opportunities for their well that for ugandans and also continuing as a private private sector to vittie and a free education so these are just promises and he is a maverick an action we get a lot of probably saved but the devil is in the details when it comes to the implementation but he has a hard task ahead of the young people are tired they know how through. the use of internet and other forms of information they know what they're capable what of what leadership they get looking and their results chilled clearly they're admitting to it and it's going to be another yes it's another temple 70 but isn't it going to be tough i guess what about the palm and how does the makeup of the new
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parliament reflects the country right now. see we have focused what is the election focused on the president says but we're actually seeing is the new parliament area which seem to resample long time probably to the new going and just that will that . edwards and candy if the vice president under you are nice but he has lost his if he's well i'm interested to a young age expanded and i don't like the minister of trade actually to me just as a would will that elementary state to me he is the son of the new way that he also sure that ugandans i do not know whether the robot of the army is that that you should where you're going to but it's a clear sign that they are tightening and i do hope that new kind of made for t.v. they don't get to the heart of 70 is the new hope for uganda. panamint just 17 i'd like to bring you back on the line can you talk me through this
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transformation or this transition in the 70 from a rebel of reform to a leader who has changed the term limit who has changed the age limit for a president who has overseen an internet blackout thus having you on the phone so also he can stay in the in power took me through that transition. that's very interesting because i would tell you that there were 70 you know and you see today is the same 70 that some of us knew and havel is known it's the same 7 and so very difficult message to convey across the ground and body polity and particular thing that is one of the misfortunes we have in the country in a country where many people who are persons are going to do not sufficiently understand some 70 alyea part of the conversation was whether or not the 7 is going to govern for the people interesting lee. he told the. popular journalists of color and angry kenyan and the brother closer brother to agnes that you know he's
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a he's governing ruling wonderful for his children grandchildren and so people make fun of that but honestly that's not just i'm a 70 has always wanted power and he has always thought that he has no friend and has a list sort of that you want to get what he wants by any means necessary i suggest that in 180 he lost elections political ethical and democratic and he did not go to court but he went to the bush when he took over power he banned political parties when we compelled him and in fact my party and i was a party to through the process of successfully challenging the 70s a ban on political parties in 2000 fall into those 5 therefore he was compelled to open up markets at the same the opening up process meant political parties had already been killed he has continued transferring power using every means possible and so really the make up the of whatever happens after the legislative assembly while it is significant and address is actually quite right it's actually fairly huge hit in many ways the recent incident
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a few years ago where he sent top security agents of he's basically gunplay teles on parliament and the corrupt a on religious little something unseen anywhere in a democracy mr mcclellan was saying that the legislatures of them over the military administration really this election window dressing this identical to want the same movement in the position that cuckoo. really the situation with them having to do so little 700005 the way the reforms the 71 and 72 was basically serving a particular purpose or for western interests. and it was convenient for him and for them to back him and right now by and large every side of this incident including his friend but unfortunately he's so entrenched that it's actually rather difficult for even some of the people who sided with in some areas many reasons in iran i don't really want you to boil on this one but the 70000 changed by the way when the 70 was pushing for the family. ending at milton to go to community for the time would come from zambia and speak another time when the thinking limits
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capital was at 70 the whole thing came time came home to him it is very clear if you can reprocess i think the hope is this that generally because most of the population have caught up with him in the modern reality even many of the older generation people older than myself will need to some of the senior politicians in the in the seventy's a group of just a few years a few weeks ago in kampala people have looked tired they want change the only thing is they don't know how i think people are going to review beyond this election especially because of the and president money which is actually pretty good the violence leading the election down on social media it was actually called in is everybody in the country i think that was wrong but. krista tippett i'd like to bring you back in one continuation another time of the 70 what does it mean for the region what is it mean for east africa for foreign policy and to security. that's a good question and as was just mentioned 70 has been
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a very skilled politician not only nationally but also internationally he's been able to tie the fate of his regime to the fate of actors within the international community for a long time the regime it was a donor darling for the world bank for the i.m.f. because it brought development from a country which didn't have much and it successfully implemented the sterner policies. he also played a key role for regional stability in the war on terror well he supplied peacekeeping troops or dummy some mission in somalia and recently uganda has been a major hosting country for refugees in the wider region. however the recent elections. puts more prominently or they put more in the spotlight vs more authoritarian tendencies of the regime the major crackdown on the opposition. its forces donors to more forcefully change sides or 2 sides for example the united
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states has been a key supporter of the regime and they have been key donor to regime but in the last months or less 3 wks there have been more and more critical voices from the u.s. so donors they will have to make up their minds but president 70 he always got what he wanted because he's been so skillful in tying donor interests or international interests to his own just disliking to the end because i want to move on to the economy but before we move on can i ask you talk about the incoming and u.s. administration don't think anything will change with a biden presidency. that's of very good but the very difficult question i honestly i don't know what i do know is that the biden astray she will have hard choices to emerge and what i do know is that in the last 3 weeks there has been a change of tone and official communication of the state department and u.s. embassy in which they for example warned of consequences when
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a prominent human rights lawyer was arrested agnes if we look at the state of governance for the state of of the government's books uganda is described as having rampant corruption economic mismanagement of spending public funds in a way that they should not be spent under another time would miss 70 will any of those things be addressed. isn't that the story of most of our countries and again show me in the last little. year which democracy and democracy that there is really work and believe but the end of seats in the us and 4 years ago here in the u.k. democratic processes can your own but multi-party politics that is competitive in my view of the what and you wonder is not is not unique to what we are we are accustomed we have custom to in a continent in regards to economic vision uganda has had a steady growth of over white point 5 percent and of up for the last sort of 10
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years these are the big percent for sighted over by 70 and a lot of people sort of praise him for what he has done he has worked on a frustrate the development of regional shared vision with the region in regards to promoting connecting the region and promoting trade the region he's also one of the key fonda's all needed championing the new 3 free africa continental of trade so in terms of economic and economic policies actually not changes they're going to be business as usual you're aware they the project that say uganda and turns it here over about 3500000000 dollars the new pipeline there's also a construction of the roads between uganda and your city so there's a lot of economic activity going on in the region and people that the weapon was 70 is is is is in and he's going to continue one at a time i think that's the expel think 20 but in terms of the political process
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think ugandans i tell you. that yet and we got a question again and again just democracy is what is being out in the time and what we currently is there an alternative. you know what i do not know what we how to mix people solutions that's to our money. and the u.s. mission that ensures that and 3. every part is should present and not the current system where. we're not equal i want to bring a 9 dose of back on the line joseph i'm not sure if you heard what i was saying there about the 70s economic achievements economic development i want to know if you agree with all of that. no i don't think i'll ever guess that suggested that
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this i.m.f. world bank stuff is one of the reasons why i think admission is seeking to question well whether or not we review the politics is actually what they would say in american economic politics tippett meaning that really the most important going on in town is politics whatever happens in the white house is going to happen around the world days of it and it's backed by beijing the reality is that the uganda became a sweat economy together with ghana at the time when the 7 was the darling were 7 was a strategic darling of the way because they wanted the way the west wanted to change the dynamics of geopolitics for wonder and you know what happened in iran and genocide that countries are different other day conquered brute on their behalf conquered congo with a huge millions of people lost in so done it was really not the seventy's liberating helped done 7 was playing the job but by and large most of the people wanted because of the battle between north and south sudan as it were so he was basically a strategic ally and so you kind of became the sweatshop place where you can get all the dollar money the u.n. bases in table all kind of stuff the strategic geopolitical kind of stuff please be
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good boy like actually i know offer is in that southern african people are being told by a british senior minister in washington as and i bet and world bank meetings behave like misunderstanding and you'll get everything that he wanted but about 1015 years ago you know africa needs to wake up to the reality what i do say i also disagree with. the market back to democracy is the way forward it worked in uganda between 92 and 71 when india mean was imposed on us because of it it means we had a flourishing multi-party democracy that was actually the best time in this country after we got rid of the demeaning and 79 in 98 it doesn't multi-party elections in which you can the official rejected the 7 until today the poor guy has got no evidence to show that election was really in disfavor he knew he wanted to control a little power as i suggested q 3 between 9 189842 candles standard of living rose for. fun for 71 years when the political stability. among
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politics where there is competition of ideas that's what we need to do in this country. working with countries that are what we need to be working for going for this country we are going to get we are coming to the end of the show we're running out of time i'd like to put another question to you christoph what. concisely as you can for a very large question what are the biggest challenges that was 70 faces now and is he equipped to face them. well for me the biggest challenge at the moment seems to be 2 thinks one you have a very large segment of the population rich and happy rich considered steve selections non-legitimate what will he do it are. these elections they had a very low voter turnout let's say around one to 2 people came to vote which meant that to produce results you had one to 340 for him which is a major success what will he do to unite the secondly because economically it's not
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looking that well. a lot of money has been spent in preparation for the election and when this happened in 2011 this led to major inflation which together with political discontentment led to major protests what will he do now and of course one of the big that is that we go to one of the big factors that we also haven't talked about of course the coronavirus and how that impacts things as economies around the world a look to get back on track we will have to leave it there for time thank you to all of our guests agnes to get our kristoff to take a and dose of our channel and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion you can go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com for slash inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is as a.j. inside story from
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insight into the top stories on al-jazeera has heightened security in the u.s. capitol days before the presidential inauguration small groups of pro trump supporters have also staged protests outside state capitals hoda abdel-hamid is that. washington d.c. has never seen as much security in recent history if ever you can just see behind me that's one of the many road blocks that you will encounter if you have a drive around the capitol now this one is this 1st roadblock that this sort of designee.

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