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your lease. with homicide detectives talking about her journey. you leave that. i. just stand here and watch your choir 5 minutes you're not going home tonight i can guarantee you that. welcome back to wrongful conviction when jason today we're going to be doing a deep dive into an issue that is as fascinating as it is to our falling which is the phenomenon of false confessions and my guest today is going to be jane fisher

are you also and was currently working on 4 cases involving false confessions and each is fascinating in its own way so jane welcome thank you for convection happy to be here and jane is an attorney who is an expert on false confessions jane how did you get into this work i was a public defender in manhattan here in new york city for about 3 years and we saw a lot of police misconduct you know we were doing arraignments up until 1 am in the morning and you see people beat up or you know people whose cases get dismissed who get no compensation so my husband and i left the legal aid society with the hopes of doing civil rights work. my name sold castle in the distinguished professor of psychology at john jay college of criminal justice once a false confession is taken the case was closed and nobody really can tell the difference between a good confession and one that is a problem with all of this is that they are tactics that can be used to get

innocent people and i don't just mean vulnerable innocent people i mean people who are sitting around in this room to confess to crimes they didn't commit. any time you do an exoneration case where there's been a false confession it's like trying to write a trice a cough tell. everybody's already against you the person's been convicted by a jury. judge thinks he's guilty the jury thinks he's guilty now you have to convince everybody that they're wrong. so a case that you're deeply invested in is a case of an alien ship who has been in prison for 20 years renee lynch. was a case we took about 2 and a half now maybe 3 years ago now and she was accused and

convicted of killing her landlord in buffalo new york in 1900. and it's also obviously a false confession cases the police are going crazy and they can't solve it 18 months go by and renee's connection to the victim was that it was her landlord and so they are start looking into run a who at the time was heavily addicted to drugs crack cocaine and. she gets arrested for something else and they start interrogating her and she confesses to killing her landlord with this guy karim so she says karim and i went to my landlord's house we were going to rob her the robbery goes bad and karim steps or so it's us she's a good century can make it a felony murder being present during the commission of a crime and somebody gets killed we started sort of doing you know just regular

google searches on the players' names the detectives and everything in this t.v. show women behind bars comes up and they've done an episode on bernie's case where they got in the in the prison and interviewed her and then interviewed this joseph court was the cop on the case just the way her body. when she decided to go you just saw it was time to tell the truth. i believe her confession is kind of nonsense there's inconsistency between the physical evidence and what she says and during the show he says well i mean we knew that kareem walker was in florida at the time of our crime my partner looked into it and karim was in florida at the time of our like well. i guess they knew karim walker was in florida at the time the crime then rene's confession can't possibly be true because she's confessing to going to rob the landlord with kareem had the defense been able to put that on her confession would have made no sense but the defense was never to.

our goal is of course to get renee out of prison but it can take a really long time sometimes many years and one of the 1st things we do in cases like this is to comb through the confession and find all that in consistencies to clearly show that the confession is false. and there's a cream walker drove me to 90 long. and was i was going to go into the front door and kareem was going to come up the back door. he was going to tie her up with a piece of white extension cord that he brought with him at that time kareem hit louise in the side of the face and louise fell to the floor in kind of went out if that happened he would be standing punching her here right when chremes head here

in the face he knocked the wig off louise's head a wig landed on the floor in the kitchen but that's the kitchen. he tried to tie louise up with the plastic or he had then cream comes from behind louise he stabbed her at least twice however we know it's 8 times. so the only thing she gets right is that the witness knocked off that there's a plastic cord involved in this case that's correct and the phone cord is where the extra d.n.a. is ringback. i'm just in the is jean fisher byron alston renee lynch's attorney i have a call with her this morning. ok thinks. oh. oh. oh oh. oh oh. 000000 why earthquake.

i know it's hard. rene went to trial she testified but very incoherent way she was high during the trial. you know it was she was not a good witness for herself she recanted right away afterwards and her confession is that is it was coerced when i talked to him about this they're like well this i would never cross a contests where people say i've been talking about this for 30 years and that's the 1st thing everybody says i get it but it wouldn't happen to me. it's not one

time the person that gives a false confession we are all vulnerable under the circumstance of interrogation we are all there been some trained detectives i've spoken to who say i can get anybody to confess to. many of them will boast that they have a 95 percent confession right but it's conceivable that a lesser of a lesser near perfect at identifying the perpetrator that is every suspect you identify is the perpetrator right if you've got a confession rate at that level you produce an awful lot of false confessions we were in a lynch when i talked to her about it she explained to me i was so shocked that they convicted me she said because there was no evidence of a confession so powerful it can stand alone so here's the jury on the one hand they've got the confessions of the woman and they go delay the confessions trumped the d.n.a. changes everything it sometimes i've likened the final product of a confession to a hollywood production it is scripted by the police theory of the case it is

rehearsed and then lights action camera ready to go. and that's what the jury sees they don't see the whole production they just see the final i don't see how. a judge or jury to look past a false confession is that ocean approached. the internet is case we're trying to get permission to test all the old evidence from d.n.a. but to do that we have to collect as much information about her innocence as we possibly can. go back and interview old witnesses collect documents go back to the crime scene. i keep coming back to this thing that the cops knew he was in florida and kept going with the story that they did together how can they be permitted to go forward with a serious of a case that they know is not true they made the trial basically matcher.

it just makes me so jaded and really disgusted with the district attorney's office is that i feel like you know the you know they're supposed to be at the top of the chain right there it's supposed to be the ones making sure the cops made mistakes or people below the cops made mistakes then they're the ones who are responsible for fixing it why not do d.n.a. testing we're not infallible we can all make mistakes i mean renee's going to be in prison for the rest of her life why not just check in rene's case it's especially frustrating because i mean they certainly believe that this was done not the stabbing was not done by her right so there is a set i mean they're basically admitting that they have a cold case and there's a murder out there and they still don't want to do it. we have a number of documented cases in which the person who falsely confessed actually

came to believe the lie that they were told about their own behavior. which is. a whole nother level of insanity and some of them believe it. for a long time afterwards right. here. in the melted thompson case we had he was a danish inturn who came. to danish he was a college student studying to become a teacher and he came and interned at i.p.s. which is really you know like a $20000.00 a year preschool up by the u.n. and it was a code teacher who accuses me of molesting all the kids in the class and he's on the cover of the daily news they take his focus his facebook profile pictures him with his niece on his shoulders so they put that on the cover of the daily news and

write sex monster and they go arrest him in the morning and bring him into the station and they have a female cop interrogate him she tells him well you know we have video of you molesting these kids which they had videos but he's not molesting anybody so they had this woman who accused him had taken videos of him in the classroom interacting normally with children and so either the cops hadn't watched it or they had watched it and were blatantly lying to him but there was no video of him molesting kids but he hears that right and he thinks holy crap well if i'm on video i must have done it right they let him continue to believe this lie that he's caught red handed on tape molesting these kids and i think that that you know he started you could tell through the hole when they finally are recording him he's doubting himself you know he's he's wondering did i do this.

i think you can see. you. rachel ferrari and i'm an assistant district attorney in new york county mr thompson. can you tell me why you're here today yes. i'm here person in the court of. all my colleagues and. for inappropriate. behavior with kids ok so why don't you tell me. probably anything how this started what happened you know what happened. you know well as a senior what i can remember designed to go down just

a few moments about. and then. present to me you know i have. this as i was. present in the you know so. i had taken. its. place and placing it around mine. going for a measure. you know for sure if for him that or question or. so what when you say gave him pleasure at one time now the central. would have to be. i don't know you know. my memory i mean it's like there's no they have it and if you read out and demand it that's your handwriting and it's just losing it over briefly because it looks like it's

been changed in any way. and that's your signature at the bottom here because if you read this out here today they're going to show it to camera. i don't even think people in the u.s. really get that the police are allowed to lie to you i think most people would think that if i'm speaking to a police officer he's time to the truth but now to tom's i mean in denmark it's illegal for the police to lie to you so he really i think was was you know really says extra susceptible to something like that it took us filing the civil rights to to even get access to these tapes the district attorney wouldn't give it to us when the criminal case was pending we asked that quote we move for a court order to get at the judge's wouldn't give it to us but they sat on these tapes for 8 months he had this case hanging over his head and they knew that there was nothing in the tapes right and because was that was the only evidence there was

yes luckily mel to never got convicted right we were able to stop it before that happened but it took i mean it almost killed him. here very serious allegations of sexual abuse involving very young children were brought to the attention. there. are us tom. if you tell everything to dismiss this case after our nation is gathered in our stands now. we have a chance to have this. is what i miss it didn't oh man it's historical fact this awful person and what dansko was it appointed about him and its function to want to install a c.p.a. so he put in a treaty between the elite sport from sin no one say it's going to help put the 2 end of the good in

a system and sit for it to pass assess the student forward to put in a new iraq which is here in new york i can't for. the forefront see treating its own stores up. in the most false confession cases there falsely confessing to an actual crime that they didn't commit in this case he was confessing to something that never even happened right as you said so poignantly i mean his life was ruined and he didn't even get convicted. you know the central park jogger case was my 1st interaction with false confessions our firm represented corey wise on his civil rights case and that that's a hell of a way to start i mean you're diving right into the deep end there yeah you know the

circumstances at play in that case were huge amount of pressure on the police and the authorities to make arrests and make them stick to majors but convicted me infamous central park jogger case in 1989 the rape and beating of a female jogger made headlines nationwide the teenager talking fast but later claimed that their confessions have been covered. when the actual perpetrator steps forward for 5 men were finally is on a road for the past time for nearly 7 years in prison and one of them corey was 30 . 1 the most notorious crimes in the history of new york city it was a crime in which a woman who was a wealthy upper east side investment banker was out jogging at dusk and was dragged into the woods in central park and almost beaten to death and it was front page news every day everywhere and they they're out to get arrested and they got

him. when you get to the false confession in that case it was a classic you know. mismatch they were totally overmatched underrepresented if represented at all i don't know what they could pick or even have anyone in the room with now is because you are 16 so he was considered an adult sadly and so his mom was not allowed in there and they you know had given them lawyers they all waived their their miranda rights. this is very very serious this may be very we don't know if this woman is there. i want to know exactly where you are and exactly what and exactly what you said.

after seeing those pictures i'm sure that you can see how important this point is to when. it is hard for people to understand how this can. help out they could produce a confession to something they didn't do and it really is a complicated set of stories there is no one reason. you know corey was confessed to get out of this bad situation he was under intense pressure for many many hours right he was likely be told that others were giving stories and that he needed to cooperate in order to go home it is very telling in the central park 5 case that every one of them every one of the boys and every one of the parents who were present were surprised that the boys were arrested after their statements every one of them thought i was going home well you know what that sounds crazy

right here thought you were going or confessed to a rape and go all right but you know that one false confessors were interviewed after. and they've been exonerated and the 1st question everybody wants those i don't understand why don't you confront the most typical response is because i want to go home. innocent people often say afterwards you know i was so tired i was so stressed i figured let me sign this confession it'll all work itself out in the end the detectives often say you know we have d.n.a. we're going to send it to the last 3 they think that claiming they have to in a that bluff is a way to scare the criminal into submission it may be right but if the person you're talking to is not the criminal but an innocent person that the law becomes a promise of future exoneration paradoxically makes it easier to confess right randi kaye we're going to do some tests going to take blood samples from

a lot of different people. right i just want to know that if we do that we will probably get an order to take a sample from you. and then we'll compare it to tests. because you're in a position now where you know that there's going to be a match. that you'd be better off if you tell us about it now or the stairs instead of saying something that's not true or this is. one of the things i think they made you say was that you cut her on the legs where did you how did you come up with that i don't know. came from no i don't know he just made it up i don't know it came from no i don't know. like why does someone do that right that's what everybody wants to know and they're liable to happen to you that well had to do was play where i said i was plagued with that because i think most people would like to think i would like to think to myself like i would never do

that but did you ever say to yourself damn why did i tell these lives why do i tell these lies i put my son been in every religion that exists in my room did not exist as i would just heard i just felt going to there probably exist among the worlds is just for the hurt that i've said something i've formed with the mother who would with the most of them by it was a it was a room but just to go home or guess my way normally. i was worried that it was going to be true or it was one of which where it all. so this is somebody who are. al-jazeera is an investigative unit the team censored and unseen video for a bullhorn filmed as the coronavirus of great he's just beginning. to be known all those years and i don't see how any of the not more exposing this secrecy and

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there's a very bright. i bet what happens here is she says he knocks her out on the kitchen floor and they're like man doesn't work doesn't work renee not good enough didn't didn't he do in the living room look at this photo look at what happens here oh yeah. it certainly doesn't fit with renee's no concise no i want to see a real place report i think you heard that some wishful thinking mike i don't think there is a real police report i mean. i just don't. maybe

they sort of new that we're names confession was not so good or not true and so they didn't really want corinne because they didn't really believe that he was there. that or that it happened like that and so if they get him in there and then they could end up with nobody bacon today i believe that amherst was you know in their ranking safest place in america lived oh really is that their image was getting tarnished you know so became very little bright. one taking on a case like rene is the danger is always the case of events or other crime scene evidence has not been preserved. if there's no crime scene evidence or case evidence. then there's nothing to d.n.a. test and if there's no d.n.a. is. to test it's extremely hard to prove that your client is innocent.

that's really. right. in rene's case it was a very bloody crime scene the murder weapon was never found but there was a purse that had a bloody fingerprint in it and there was a drawer in the bedroom with a bloody fingerprint on it they d.n.a. tested some things but not those and the only d.n.a. found at the crime scene was the victims. from the new everything you know. i think out of 41 pieces of evidence they tested 7. for d.n.a. and so you know they're in trouble right at trial because you can't get convicted on your own confession alone so they go and they try to round up jailhouse snitches but only one worked.

so it was her confession and a jailhouse snitch which is so common in false confession cases and you have the confession and then the extra evidence because there's no physical evidence the corroboration to the confession is a snitch. my . you know little woman her name a. long time ago. so i'm trying to get her out of prison because i don't believe that she did what she was accused of i need to talk with raquel there in bedford together thanks. for your. call are going to. come kong you are i hope so please place because it has her name is due in 25 to life for something she didn't do. and we really are are hitting a lot of of dead ends and rockwell's are huge going to be

a huge help to us ok i'm very much thank you sorry. but i know why if you make them have no practical ok. oh. ok. do you mind if i said there. is olympic gun good that's ok do you know record on your. own history before you got your body will feel fine no we're trying we're trying. do you remember interacting with any of the police officers back then mr g.q. may as june was name was very if some of. my impression looking back thank you all here she's going to eat well she will be ok and he go make sure you

know you can sometimes it was a bloody crime so now we know i was my security d.n.a. so these are all somebody else maybe you know how. it was one of the things that's one of the things that we hope to be able to do is retest the d.n.a. there's knowledge she has no chance some cases we get and we look at them and we even if we believe the person is innocent we can say well i mean there's just for a variety of reasons nothing we can do there's something we can do here but not a lot of people get exonerated. hello. and yeah it's just work out. i just want to talk to you because i'm helping rene trying to get her out can we come by what do i have to just talk to me. also just think you so much.

we need to ask the most and the most important thing i mean is so how she was to her what her actions what the police were. living with young right with on drugs you know an ally for me every day and he didn't have a car with a ok good for her promise you anything like where you going to get out let me out so we're with you right right i want to get out and so you actually did get out and thank you we really appreciate it. ok so that's good that's helpful.

why don't. you. well at least 3 years on one of you. will render one toy i was arrested in the year 2000 and accused a murderer of a young schoolteacher in denver he's 14 years old friends when this happened and he is tiny like maybe 110 pounds. he killed in.

the overlap between meltzer and lorenzo is a mountain they tell him there's these videotapes that show him abusing children which there aren't in lorenzo's they actually go as far as to have him take his shoes off and they do this whole charade where this very angry cop comes back in with the shoe and says well i'm a shoe print expert and your shoe matches the print at the crime scene was untrue. to the bar. but. you feel.

in the united states police a permitted to lie about evidence. and say right out of order that we have something. to think long and fast about. that is a shocking discovery to most people most western countries don't permit it the u.s. supreme court permits it so consequently you have 2 detectives making it seem as if we have independent evidence they sometimes will get very specific about what that evidence is telling us that you are involved in something they've already started that is shaping process and the mother already is believing it we're still going to see both of you they're not ready. to say go for it isn't it is it. rather that the real issues that you are surely there in that are the same breath that you

get out you mean a state so he just introduced the word mistake he's about to develop this theme that enables lorenzo to admit some degree of involvement while minimizing his own role is part of a package of techniques that in which you communicate to a suspect that i think you're a good person i understand what you've been through i sympathize with what you've been through often you hear normalizing statements like you know water fire in your situation i would have done the same thing and all by the way i don't think you intended to do this i think it was an accident or maybe your friends put you up to it or maybe you were provoked there you need to kill that one resident i don't think you're going to have a gun. i didn't want to jack the car into one that did. the communication moves in one direction it is designed to leave the person the suspect

and think that the police don't think this is such a big deal right now and therefore will be treated with leniency ok so one of my choices either i can be the accomplice who refuses to speak or i can admit to what they want me to admit to given all of the minimisation that they've given me and enjoy the benefit of that but there are going to go. you. go how do you presume they're going to do that they look at how much they have communicated already he now knows so much about this crime that whether he was there or had anything to do with it or not he now knows enough about it to give you a description. and renzo why were you there. why you're a sleaze house it was not. the reason you see things in that little computer there for hours yesterday our man who kicked you in the head of course the building a story for him to tell. there is you know the very real huge. 20

part of the trade shoes he. runs on was it your in. your job is just right around he's now being set up so that when he's ready to give a statement he knows exactly what that statement should convey but you know some gaping it was kicked in the head shoe dragging her through the blood you know he's got it all so later a judge on a jury is going to watch the final confession and they're going to be so impressed and unable to look past that because they keep on asking themselves what happened you know those things if he was in there right. stare me down you made that up i just stand there watch your prior 5 minutes you wait that up you know you. you know you all know you're not going home tonight i can guarantee that the reform. and they do not put you in juvenile hall for

it which would be point you know. you read to madiba talk now or say goodbye to your mom it's a pretty clear and your cousin and your sister and your girlfriend and your life. if you read into any longer. you ready. room. what can an innocent person do next themself in the situation anything i guess you could hold out right forever you just hold out. doesn't everybody have a breaking point so why must.

he was in prison for 14 years so he got out a 28 he was in solitary confinement for 4 years because when he goes into a grown up prison he's 14 and he can't be in with the general population so he goes to solitary confinement for 4 years for $14.00 to $18.00 lorenzo was exonerated and we have a civil rights too pending for him and the. opposition are you know they're they're moving to have the case dismissed based on qualified immunity for the police. so we talked about how out of these 4 cases you know corey and melt and lorenzo have all been exonerated by rene you know her case remains active and and she's been in prison now for 20 years her son grew up without a mom she you know he has she's grandkids now that she's never met other than on

a phone through glass. she said to heart attacks while she's been in prison and is probably not getting the right medical treatment for that you know we're just hoping that you know time could be on our side and we can get her out sooner rather than later but i mean she is a. a life that's. wasted. 20 years 6 months i mean i'm not doing the time it's my mom she wants us to last oh oh oh forging life goals on yeah all sides of ours just have to be patient and wait you know. and i don't know is the understand how you could live with that for so long because that feels. just know she's in there.

this is some fair book as they all know you just go with the cars. the law of the business of you know right. now just try to make a better work for markets for much over them make sure that all have to suffer and endure what our own draw of the notice come alive almost from the door for us which with the former all right well it's hard to get out of those times. so you should be proud of yourself i'm sure she's proud of you. and all of them of the states of the of the states to everybody and. i hope you reunite in person. i hope that we can make that happen for you.

be it. thank you. hi this is jane fisher mary awesome attorney for renee lynch we have a call. oh you're going on and on on. parting good morning how are you. how is your heart. out trying out. medication here i only half hour tracking. all i care a. but if they ask. dr gregory.

or. i know all of us. you want to play some together it's ok i understand it's so difficult and i know that it's taking a lot of time but. we don't want to mess it up renee we are only going to get one shot at best. so just hang in there. i promise you there will be announced i hope it's a good one but there won't be any and. developed thousands of missing the season is nigger mags and.

some. seem to have. a student in the system is missing the biggest 1000 tons as a tool will not do this thank. you really. that gutless. to. good and somehow you. missed 1st and america had those vehicles and i tried yeah i've only met.

the dude you're going to give me some of them. does he in any way blame himself for i think so. control ending and confer saying they all do that but my own observations from talking to wrongfully convicted people is those who were wrongfully convicted by confession are not doing as well the stigma they attach to themselves they feel weak and idle stupid they don't understand what happened how to done that to themselves and even when the convictions overturned if the reason they were convicted was a confession as opposed to something else the stigma of that tach to the state even after they were exonerated right people are not quite 100 percent sure right yet the confession is so powerful than even ever it's supposed to evaporate.

so corey today is he's living well right he got a huge settlement but it doesn't take away those demons in his head you know he's he was in from 16 to almost 30 so what are you now when you come out he's never going to have the mental peace and rest that you know you and i can probably accomplish sometimes but he has lost his whole family. there's no relationship with them really. and that's something that they then why p.b. in the city in the prosecutor's took away from him right that money can't replace. when you come back to society you don't you don't know when to do it in charity. you don't know what to do or. with a bit of morning. star over here. start to

journal of the you know whatever the journey may be. if you're going i was told to stand in the house you know from under. they have free. restorable false confessions not just a story that gets at the question of why in god's name did an innocent person confess to a crime he or she didn't commit it's a 2nd story in the 2nd story line is how come the prosecutor the judge the jury the appeals court all missed it. and there is now ample research actual cases laboratory studies field studies and in 100 plus years of basic psychology tells us when you lie the people about evidence when you lie to people about reality you can change their perceptions can change their memories and you can change just about every aspect of their cognitive function everybody's human everybody's mortal

everybody is pretty and. their names case we've now gather all the information we could possibly find and we're ready to file motions in court but this is only the 1st step in a long long journey. as last decades of her life for something she didn't do that she deserves to spend every minute of the rest of it with her family. who wish and grandma was here to day. for the knowledge. that. any love life. i really did bad thing. would i be able to forgive somebody like me

a convicted war criminal who seeks out the survivors of a prison camp to apologize for the crimes of his past i just can't even showing. the unforgiven the weakness documentary on al-jazeera my old t.v. not counting. did not let me sleep. because some of the wet weather pushing into the southeast of the us at the moment and some

wintry weather pushing across central parts of canada with this area of low pressure just easing across ontario into a quick back in middle pushes where it was a canadian maritimes now inauguration day would stay in they say it was fine and wanted to whinge has been nothing much to speak of similar pictures they go on 3 friday the winds if anything to back having said that let me go with the last of the snow just pushing away from that east side of canada come friday still some place and places of rain around the panhandle let's look further west where the rain is rather more welcome will see some wet weather and some winter weather coming in across california still quite a brisk wind here but it is no ifs that the coldest of that will help with the fires that do continue to burn in one of 2 places we have got snow coming back in across the rockies seeing if they're all scattering pushing across the northern plains by the time we come to sas day but dry and bright bright and breezy clouds the shades whether they're around the eastern seaboard as we make our way into the weekend so i brought. parts of the caribbean as well ia western side of the region

will still see some showers just coming into honduras guatemala easing up to will see a khatam peninsula a scattering of showers across the yard is for the most part this fine. news as it breaks the explosion. transmission site knocked out mobile phone and internet service for miles details coverage many have told us that they have voted for peace. they are worried about the security situation in of the country from around the world honestly it is a dependent on the success of its that seems to improve its image. since the beginning of the outbreak. make a change. change your life for the parts of the country challenge the access to truth you want to create something you've pushed to breaking down you remove to

turn the status quo and fight injustice down the old monsoon. will. witness personal documentaries like alter deception on al-jazeera. help on the way. u.s. president joe biden signs 10 executive orders to boost the country's covert 1000 response but warns of a difficult road it's. the watching al-jazeera live from the headquarters and. also coming up japan's prime minister determined to hold the summer olympics in tokyo amid questions whether the delay games can take place.