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time a final decision on whether to hold the games this note is expected in early spring i think the date to watch is march 25th that's when the target really begins for northern japan 4 months 10000 runners crossing the country arriving to go in july 23rd in tokyo it would seem absurd to start the torch relay and then have to have no olympics the international olympic committee make 75 percent of its income from selling broadcast rights of the olympics if is cancelled it could least an estimated $2.00 to $3000000000.00 of revenue victoria gave him be al-jazeera. this is our desire these are the top stories top democrat chuck schumer has told the u.s. senate to expect an impeachment article on monday against former president donald trump republicans wanted to delay impeachment proceedings until february to give
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a truth commission to scrutinize france's colonial past in algeria although the initiative is backed by president emanuel macron he's refusing to apologize for abuses committed during the country's occupation that's angering many on jury and so is reconciliation possible without repentance this is inside story.
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hello and welcome to the program i'm homage i'm joined now derrius war of independence lasted from 1904 to 1962 and was one of the world's bloodiest conflicts as former powers decolonized the algerian government says more than 1000000 of its people were killed french historians estimate up to 400000 died france's bitter exit from algeria expose divisions that live on in both countries to this day in areas from immigration and muslims rights to religious expression to the rise of the political far right we'll discuss all this with our panel of guests in just a moment but 1st here's barbara and gold has report. calling for every conciliation of memories president emanuel mccrone is setting up a truth commission to investigate frances colonial past analogy area but has rejected calls for an apology the decision from as a report by a french historian commissioned by mccrone that described the never ending memory will between the 2 countries. secure show up for yet there are 3 things i hope from
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this report the 1st thing is the general message of the report namely that the secure and of memories really exists that people can understand each other that the french understand what the algerian experience was and that the old jerry and also into and to what was the french history of the algerian war of course he. the report suggests the commission should hear testimony from those who suffered during a curious 7 year war of independence that ended in 1962 and says the portrayal of french colonial rule in schools should be overhauled but the proposals avoided comment on systematic torture of military detainees and suspects carried out by french forces it was policy president machen acknowledged for the 1st time in 2018 many are cheer instead criticizing france's refusal to issue an official apology the algerian government's reaction has been muted and that source had been
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condemned by bottles and we do not like france and this brutal colonialism has not recognised its crimes and it has committed important crimes one and a half 1000000 martyrs have been killed among our people the algerian state must strike hard because the algerians are not satisfied. france will not apologize as we know and the reason why it will not apologize or that it's afraid of having to pay large financial compensation. the establishment of the commission creates a political tightrope walk for emmanuel mccrone given that about 5000000 people with ties to al geria live in france they include immigrants and their families to war veterans and french citizens has settled in colonial algeria and their views and questions over identity and integration going back to the algerian war will continue to be a strong and contentious force in french politics and society barbara anger for inside story.
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all right let's bring in our guests are now here art is the chief foreign correspondent at le figaro joining me from paris use of blundell is professor of political science and international relations at qatar university and also in paris . a sociologist and researcher at school of advanced studies in the social sciences there welcome to the program use of let me start with you today this report says its purpose is to achieve a reconciliation but it also ruled out france issuing an apology for the past from your vantage point can there be reconciliation without an apology. when it's been a bit difficult to achieve a conciliation who have bowed to the bullets but it could be achieved if for those. it's. on the close it is committed in the julia over the a bit of the whole of the 2 to 2 years i would say the dismay ball to bug you
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professor of been jimmy stuart up who was of both of. these a specialist in the note of the can basically is a very good study indeed president but go all of us would be called not related for being the 1st president to walk into this minefield because shivah the presidents before him never wanted to book to show you what they told the democrats on since 2017 house felted to make overtures towards and to look into the history between the 2 continents right now you heard use of there he was talking about the fact that president mccrone is the 1st french president to wade into this minefield as he called it obviously previous presidents did not mr micron he commissioned this report he is now going to create a commission based on the recommendations of the report how politically risky is
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this for him. sort of all i want to see the french or girl presence. and what he 1st you have thought of war. on to do the hard work of loose colony of turkey or you stumble or consent to go. where a person where where committed and then it was just a near death there became a great fear of clowns and was given tension and the little bit there and so are and there we are the jews are livid not only with. a lot of. people are you know what seem to be happening with that with the 1st rule only of the taliban and then of course if you call it war or started
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a war with anons which started. against french schoolteachers that are nothing to do with the army or live. and and then in the repression of recent direction the defense army did. some actually duties and sort of say well. only in a 58 when do. our. but of course also a lot of adversities we're committed. to repair. is furnished millions they're also working a lot of their views a lot of innocent genomes after the war after the peace was. signing if you are in 62 were jewish and french you can decide who are currently the say that. you knocked
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out by promises. and a massacre. or what we call. our enemies were all this arabs fighting with the french. so so as if frogs would apologize i mean. do you get a fresh new group and also the law is other. people so this is this is that it will do and do it well. you know as well not a nation with some parents. or it will all get somebody to begin to look at i think step 3 and then the war 'd was wrong. from the start i receive. it. and and from it's believed
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it. or then left everything all. the way 50 years the we had generations rule all country you datable. maybe the. arab leaders aren't you know that's not want to talk about how they ruled. the. country let me have me all right now let me follow up with you on the point that you're on the point you make your own x. i want to ask i'm a question related to some of what you were saying as well i mean in 2018 mr mccrone acknowledged the widespread use of torture by french forces now geria that had not happened before in 2017 mr micron called france's colonization of algeria a crime against humanity that was startling at the time if he's gone that far
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already there's an argument to be made about why not just go ahead and apologize. well i think we need to have a pact to beat the debate and give more context of people who are listening to or to west 1st these are french reports that means that is not a come on for us between france and altering up deciding that we agree on their past everything that future is a french and reports later just specific conversations of math problems dates and also to the specific you're in debates that are going on facts that are trying to. somehow worrying about yet impact of that isn't and then call your arguments independent the base in fancy and as a winning ness to really see it's all to really think about the algae and work in relationship with the colonization then we. dispelled in france that
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radical islamists are people in disservice from algerians descents for example do not know well the ology in french or dispatch algerian history and there is a need to somehow carry down the debates in order to challenge out the clarification all of the older the principle. is inheritance in france so this is far from the framework of the debate now i think that this issue of new parents and pull g.'s that's something that is again very much related to france itself and the fact that fans remains if i can put in that place to post to mildly attached judiciary benson's and apologies the more you have it has happened and we have it doesn't know it it is giving birth to chew and warts and cinnamon 1st doing so because the argent regime between brackets has not asked far it's on
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report time has not come in should i. and then it got a group of historians. terrorist there is just an out and a lot that mediation them does have is having 2 important consequences 1st it's a lonely journey regime to come to new age of p.r. how does so be founder all the option to marry to holy shit mutilation in relation to this and it is also encouraging to the french extreme iraq moments to join just a day and that's not really for true actually all right let's take a look at the role of truth commissions for a moment truth commissions have been set up in more than 40 countries to encourage resolution following conflict many are based on a model created in south africa in 1962 years after the end of apartheid that commission gathered testimony about abuses to start a process of national healing liberia set one up in 2006 to investigate crimes committed during one of the worst civil wars in africa's history but its
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recommendations have remained largely and implemented among on syria's neighbors morocco has had one since 2004 it was created to end abuses by the security forces under king house and the 2nd about 18500 people have been compensated but none accused of torture have ever been pursued and in tunisia a commission was set up in 2014 to look into the dictatorship of zenda i've been banally by 2018 it had passed nearly 200 cases to the judicial authorities yousif let me ask you this how would this commission compare to those established in other countries in the wake of conflict. well the i mean the benjamin story of course that these particular of the commission are they would say each work in progress obviously they want to find out what happened because the journey he's played is not written the property or at least as far as the wall is concerned who committed what and how so there are laws industry bottler so many issues that
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would be. covered obviously the up posi has been excluded and it has never been short of it at all to extend it meant for the other julian authorities it is a puppet of the man from the average algerian they want an apology from france despotic report click localized 8 of them take for instance the assassination of other people mentioned which is a good step celt and after that these politic couldn't commissions of uncovered what they need to look up what they spoke i mean that benjamin start up for instance spoke about the did nuclear tests in the south of judea for the instance that these appealed from bought fighters on a soap box it's only when the good truth is know when the decision will
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be made by what other images it could be in the form of a policy it could be deportable of naming and shaming we know who did what for these days when we talk about the assassination of the great lobby been made the which has always been a secret but the only it is and it's only recently that the lobby been pretty seized of went to flounce and met the basically the french general who executed him. i mean we've been we know about this with not about this for the book . that is also all of these so it's on i guess it's only when we know what pup and exactly then we can think all we can get better is that what that anybody should be should be made right now you were mentioning in your previous answer the issue of atrocities committed during the war so i want to ask you president macross
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office said he would follow the recommendation to create a memories and truth commission does that mean that you expect that there will be testimonies will be heard from people who suffered during the war. yet it would be . well i mean he story is only as good to be written and yet still are many to. live on so you should have a witness. of the french. and not also. rebel of the war. both sides. committed atrocities lays ahead of the be like that's right belayer fog was called . big and you're in a high tech and will kill so many young. innocents the guilty westerner know it so all this and to be written i think it's good to ask your witnesses are
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still alive and to have a. current history of. war very good and also know of and here you are in a spanish prisons in algeria that i said was very well as it is certainly i don't agree when the biggest medical center in general colonization is a crime against humanity i think it's a good while i am you can see myself ever getting my in my gang existence because peter that i wrote with. julius caesar i like as terry said our building setting there are nice people but i am personally as again happy that correlation won't. jurist she's our one in france and then have my school learn latin and to enroll in
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lowell and roman ruins and brooklyn bridges and academics and all this i believe personally i am happy to every colonised by the room and so i think that it's quite a big and will. result that said indeed see that. and that it's true that we need. a history of religion to get a. friendship or a lot of very good jim in the current internationals and it would be very nice to. this is really written. to get there you know like i said from very very popular. dogmatists i didn't know origin all the french public law then so it's good and yes and startling to read. this
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mystery though it was. decided when he said it to be p.c. 62 in the if you know agreement but now why not. write to. you storing them you will not have apple or people and he sat like you will not be able to enjoy commission we have our people are being big is the engine now you must stop this rebels in nigeria in the ninety's a lot of it really in the region don't accept expect apologies from yoder an army of the under government who is atrocities so you will know you will. let me ask you it's been almost 60 years since the end of the war how much does it continue to strain french algerian ties. look. all fishel new marriages will be always used as
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a way to. ease our has a way to promote a specific agenda on both sides we should getting beyond these of fishel instrumental use of the centrality in history to look at one important factor and there's a new generations and both countries now and there's a need to shots to meet this knowledge to the new generation there's a need to longstanding somehow on how alj and historic history should beat out on what premises it is for young algy friends who have not been able to visit the country because our julia has also began a very closed country of all the best to the us young french people who actually believe that call musician is something that so that is a kind of agreement and correspondence between the 2 generations that something
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interesting that is not shouldn't maybe too quickly in the report it's nice to think about who wait for all the new algae and your french generation to leap then their knowledge of each other it's the thing is we really don't know or at least some are not actual point of view mirror when we don't know what didn't want to hold the they will react to these propositions i do not believe that is huge that are important to simply accept the report is mentioning are really at the heart of their interests for a bunch other so again i really have are having a new generation but i do insist that nothing will be done or will the intell to be done without the participation of geology and regime and the fact that our g.n.p. stari and. the society should be a bit more free you're to trying to deny. it's evident wherever with that house and come to process if you do if you look at the last piece of that has no light to him
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that for example on hold this will be his this shit yeah i doubt he knows i'm not obsessed with the idea of repentance actually that i'm not even more i'm looking up france has fully adult on your power that has a witness accounts really has a few others so there is little mclarty to hear with didn't it is the edges of a new generation that's the only shows have to the full measure of cols the end to read when if it is a psyche is at not come come come come try actually meet that exchange angela and she lived there and they're going to leave their reports and they're there with all due to their specific political action that's use if we only have a couple of minutes left let me ask you president micron hopes that this report is going to help normalize relations between france and algeria do you think that that can actually happen whether the like your guest from button's
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dissolute bullock is one of the side that it would have been sent for us as official view of the situation and what needs to be done. we have looked at it being off issue for all the julian government they have a big machine chipping away has basically got the bug off. i mean stored up who has not said it and so obviously we would like all of the evidence what you would like the story or does. love hate relationship between flaws and agenda in the world of what equipment you devote about julian pleasant that was said between us and flounced out of a moment of skull and some peoples of blood obviously days. medically we need to know more about it i was pretty pleased to see him to be brought up that. could
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have killed them for school children influenced would be that he just and the would go to the wall it all julia associated with colonialism and so on as a vote shed the light on some so many of the dark secrets they called boat up did up at the. and but it might bite is a very very significant step for at least for the government because let's not forget that on the 20 top of february 2003 is my lovely wasn't the need but the national assembly. decreed that the load up bully fight colonialism which unfortunately as far as you know usually it is concerned they wanted to get even allies colonialism and demotion was really shocked at 3 times it was in that new 17162020 i think this is
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a very very important step at least in the launch of a government work block the us would say wait and see all right we've run out of time so we're going to have to leave the conversation there thank you so much to all our guests are not here our use of bo and l. and care and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time of visiting our website of 0 dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story from a mom in film and a whole team here by phone now. once
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