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navigating troubled waters turkish and greek officials resume talks over them our time this feud can diplomacy diffuse recent tensions this is inside story. hello and welcome to the show i'm sami's a than well turkey and greece have been disputing their maritime boundaries for decades and last year the 2 nations came close to war when ankara deployed a survey vessel in contested waters now after

a 5 year suspension of their direct talks the nato allies are back at the negotiating table discussions to resolve the standoff in the g. and eastern mediterranean kicked off on monday but they were preceded by disagreements over the agenda athan wants to limit them to continental shelf borders and the size of the exclusive economic zone but i'm curious as other issues including differences over aerial zones and some of g. and islands should be tackled sin of course all reports from istanbul. turkey and greece are opposite approaches when it comes to the limitation of the contrast of maritime borders and the resumption of these exploratory talks that took place 6 the times before since 2000 to a comes at a time of mutual mistrust an arms race and a very aggressive rhetorical tension sparked especially when president our last said that he will open his country's borders to the e.u.

for the thousands of irregular migrants last year and then last summer bought size competed claims over the deep sea gas reserves and tricky center seismic survey vessel to the eastern mediterranean very close to greek territorial waters greece totally was against this but there is one thing in common both countries are going through a domestic politics called an economical slump and turkey faces possible u.s. sanctions because of purchase russian as $400.00 missile systems and united states says that that's a breach for turkey as a nato ally so 2 countries again come together to discuss the by literal issues in the agency many believe that since those issues of what size are present are seen as sovereignty national sovereignty issues by both sides they are not comparable they will never compromise on any of those issues but they want to show the united states and the western countries that they are not

a void in any kind of diplomatic dialogue also many say that both turkey and greece are trying to gain time as chalky is stuck with its problems with the united states and the european union an economy and greece trying to raise its arms by a new weapons from other countries sina because all of our inside story in turkey in greece serve overlapping claims to areas of gas rich waters in the eastern mediterranean they've each sought to strengthen their territorial claims by drawing up exclusive economic zones with libya and egypt risk. affectively greece says each of its islands is entitle to its own continental shelf with exclusive drilling rights turkey disputes that anchor also wants to ensure the turkish republic of cyprus has equal rights to gas fields it's not internationally recognized though as an independent state last year turkey has stepped up drilling along the north coast of cyprus angering greece which claims the area as part of its continental shelf

and last week athens extended its western territorial waters from 6 nautical miles to 12 that's around 22 kilometers and current opposes that thang. well let's bring in our guest now joining us from nicosia in cyprus we have and ras theophanous he's the president of the cyprus center for european and international affairs in rome we have natalie touchett she's the director of the institute of international affairs and a former advisor to for that he commodity any the european union's foreign affairs chief and in london we have gallup the lie he's a researcher at the university of oxford welcome to you or so perhaps i could start with andreas and ask the question do you think this round of talks will succeed

andrea as well we should who'd be opportunistic in that sense but even taking into consideration uncle. and also to the stated positions on the u.c. shoes. regimes as well as the secretary he would be very hesitant to express optimism let me say that the differences between the 2 countries. before you do that let me jump in and ask this question the fact that they have started talking is that a success in itself is it something of a success it is a turkish perspective which is this needs to be sorted out in bilateral talks. it's a positive step i mean negotiations and trying to find peaceful ways to address issues that i think it's always welcome i think you know greece has also been positive to discussions now as it was mentioned very clear previously there are

some issues of procedure i mean greece indicates that it will be 2 issues to discuss of the continent shelf in the exclusive economic zone to be delineated ok and any other issues should not be discussed now why do we have this statement because i'm kind of himself another that these are visuals how been raising the issue really rising that treaty only is up and this is not acceptable to greece in the sense that. greece indigo is that it will not discuss in address that we should use the claims of turkey even there are issues to be addressed yes but. that treaty says there is no need to go back and trying to find issues over the islands in the aegean and so on sore all right let's bring in the perspective of gallup if we could in london gallup listening to what and

dresses explaining that i think it underlines the fact that turkey and greece haven't really agree they have a great start talking but what exactly to talk about is not entirely in agreement right. well i think that's 1st we have to be clear at this stage we are talking about chris's management mark rosas solution given the fact that the dissent of the issues that are going groups are discussing are quite intractable settled the problems so one has been there earlier as you know has provoked is the root of it goes as far regs as you to form this not the board state so at this gauge we are talking more the crows management so it does not call mean it in an easy deal or accident that will you know that will work the hours that will make it a resolution of anything is impossible from dispersed practive it is a positive sign that they're talking because one little resume that takes away the

focus from the military stanley or read only to the negotiation at this stage i think truth is essential for the as it is one of them is the more the plural well as some form of like you know it in the stock what exploration is actually happening right now i mean quite the turkey has not been standing the ball has raised into the contest water sports umpires and the secondly it is the good of talks negotiations and this is like you know what it is exploratory polls that is reserved to get and i think the 3rd one is in one way or another if at all really if the troops progresses the questions that will be in front of all that will be how to bring turkey egypt is mediterranean gas forum or i guess you were aware or another because it is the perception of turkey that it is being cut from an emerging security or in order order in that is the military in that what it is to

utilize the cords of the brocade gallup let me interrupt you as well as let me jump in there because that's a really interesting point you've mentioned let me take that if we could to natalie and romans ask. from the perspective of the european union from your understanding do you think the e.u. wants to see this problem resolved or resolved as in finally as god would say let turkey into the eastern mediterranean gas game or is it just about ensuring that things don't boil over that's all the e.u. wants to see is let's not have a war in the eastern mediterranean and maybe have some attempt at curbing turkish power in the area. i'm ready for time together on their axis and god it was to say i think in an ideal world of the sea that here illegally like to see the stalks then should lead to a resolution of not only somebody else's issues that we were discussing but

eventually that this would also see the spillover effects onto the cyprus conflict onto the order i had mentioned financial need to be sure i am perhaps even having still a positive spin there explanations such as. so this is obviously a given ideal world and the point in years of course again i share and that is. we don't live in an ideal and therefore does the european union prefer the kind as i was mentioning the conflict management situation which existed in that is that excludes in a sense the bible rapprochement between the 2 countries after the $999.00 earthquake or does it regard the escalating dynamics we saw over the summer and north well obviously in. the form of that and given that we do live in weld it will obviously be better at the very least that conflict management sets to

ensure that on the one hand actually is assertive and i'm suppressive behavior is kept and it eventually the different forms cooperation in the region and that we've been seeing but i have to try out the multilateral iran actually forms of cooperation that become more inclusive nature beginning with the energy more right maybe we should let's go back actually to gallup for a 2nd that. put let's put this in context for for the viewers just for a 2nd and run us through the issues at stake here of issues which are disputed between turkey and greece because they're quite you know they range from the whole cyprus issue which i think you know most people would know something about to some of the details of like where the territorial waters end right where it is the continental shelf and how do you do do you apply that to islands as well as the

mainland exclusive economic zones and then there's you know aerial zones and space and it gets quite complicated right there is there's a lot in other words to talk about no absolutely i mean we are talking about different satellites and militant disputes be in so doing with territorial waters but also true to bring to table the conversation over the ownership or to some rock island and others which reads as there is. so randy in is the military and it's the there is the continental shelf like you know can we exclude those old but also you like the so crisp roses which is basically because in india all atmosphere ought to listen here and now on the topic is greek turkish by little spirit you have the energy exploration starting from 2910 israel and then. the gas plant and then sampras and absolutely in egypt and the libyan trousers in which like neutral

it's only gallup let me put this point to you from the greek respect that say it might be a lot easier if only turkey would just simply adhere to international law. whether it's to do with its presence in cyprus which the greeks see as an occupation they should get out of there or whether it's about you know territorial waters just recognize the law of the seas which gives countries the right to go all the way to 12 miles. well i think i mean in in cyprus pretty is that there was a young process in poland 14 there was also. there was a young resolution on the site and turkey sewed. supported maybe 65 percent and then the group said it rejected by 75 percent so there was a young process on cyprus but when it comes to doing an international law perspective on the. other settle the dispute i think in the end in what way or another will end of you know international arbitration but the

question is exactly what we discussed at the beginning what would take that into an issue or because either this agreement will what to be taken to the insanity court as well do it because what one side is described as this bit of as they describe it as its sovereignty so endeavor like that as long as you have these glaring get in the ball says narrow what do what is that it is and what is the sovereignty issue than you know taking that usually intent is you've got at these this is quite unlikely right ok and that's what let me give a chance to address and breath why is athens resisting this cussing all the issues if you going back to talks surely put everything on the table could help improve this would mean we typical features are going to solve not conceal their objectives they want to they want to work you know can't 23 to be a bigot country then when he's very now i mean for decades this or that part of

turkish expansion is. there is a record of usually talking about cyprus i mean since that was mentioned without saying start of the history of the details i know i was really not bogged down but my point is going why not if you're seeking to talk why not talk about everything. let me put this really eve nice also starts talking about everything that i think that things will be made worse. in the sense i mean len you say not to talk about huge good but although we must be forward looking we cannot escape from history and the record of talking about cyprus when turkey ingredient in it incident divert it declaring that its objective was true constitutional order and protect the community in practice it has destroyed the goose that usually do so close. to 7 percent either cry get

a new cleansing it has car eyes cyprus to the extent that may not have been your key point part in this thread now trying to wholeness the city of wood was supposed to be turned into so it is a looking about a year and planning that all relates this is this is actually what i'm trying to avoid getting into you know claims of ethnic cleansing and counterclaims and the history but it's not let me put the question this way and dress if that is going to sides are going to decide whether territorial waters are where the continental shelf is then you have to kind of have to resolve who's islands these are and you know some of the broader issues about the the presence of you know or the make up of cyprus in terms of political order that would make it a lot easier to decide where the exclusive zone start and then what net. put it this way we have the aliens belong to the trick you and that's what

a clear it will spread treaties that's clear what is what should be discussed what could be used these fluted use of continence of shock and the exclusive economic zone and it was international not horrible but you know this isn't an international law ok when there are certain differences in different interpretations it thinks can be discussed now in the case of cyprus since you brought it up again you know we cannot take positions like that that would turkey given the currents in turkey what is asking for the purpose of groups and so. separatists a country less than 10000 square kilometers and turkey would like to have her exclusive or you know concern about glaswegian states so it wants to sort of caught us who lives where on that why doesn't that practice practice in turkey and once you know what comes out with a great perspective but you know that's it nicosia is a young kid i would like it is unusual to turn cyprus into

a protectorate and also to change the demographic structure or right and then to claim locals who are as asian so i think he is ok what's the point is unfortunately the point is clear they have made a lack of trust in him in turkish intentions and what the great you say not only is it exactly as and let me if i can let me because we have got a lot of time let me get a chance to natalie it's i think even clear from just listening to the discussion in this show that there isn't a lot of common ground even on what the issues are. why have talks even begun at this point what made them possible they've been stalled for years was it a change in the u.s. administration. but exactly the change in the u.s. history she made of the difference is merely a difference because ultimately it will last * only it is one of the trump administration really characterize crying or not on the one hand very erratic behavior and we are now and perhaps

a. profound disconnect between the european union and the united states and now that all the region and out in recent tax know that there is. see there will be more tenacious in all that and this hospital as it relates neatly different climate for instance in nature and we know that nato has been trying to stay gentle as a prime actor in actually ensuring that the talks between greece and turkey so i think this is rooted in international context makes the difference alongside the rest of the state there are the economic upturn he is in the threat. of sanctions there are even festooned there in greece the chickie as far as the military domain is concerned amdo our defense contracts so i think there are certain incentives on both sides perhaps not necessarily in actually reaching an

agreement but certainly litigating a conflict and sort of embarking on a deescalate really dynamic ok let me bring galligan i got i am assuming you probably want to come back at a lot of some of the historical points which mr andreas was mentioning there but if i can try and get us to focus a little bit more on the now rather than the ancient history of this why. it is one way of looking at this is perhaps turkey being a little bit on the back foot feeling the heat from some of those factors which natalie mentioned whether it's a closer transatlantic alliance or the e.u. sanctions is that what's happening was a little. well it's significant impact and one of the let's not forget one of the major reason that led to the present is the mediterranean it was a systemic factors true things was important one of them is that the u.s. withdrawal from the areas because historically when the worst president we've been

drunk and then greece like we saw many of them we know tonight is the u.s. would step in to deescalate the tension or between the 2 major allies the 2nd with the 2nd one is the loss of that you access in primark interest group because in late 90 months early 2 dalton's you saw the golden you saw the honeymoon period in charge group alicia's and these was against the backdrop of the drug is drug is quest to have to be a member of the european union so that the separate is all but of that has has basically ended with the close but not all these factors. are like you know new factors one of the on the military push or indeed the military is an expensive piece but for turkey about progress as well to the narrative that turkey has been advocating for the talks so it is going there isn't a change of the position in terms of work you know get informed or advocating for it or therefore the negotiation and then the last immediate factors are as nothing

to put it the change of the government in you was because now i like the rules the more convergence but it had only gotten in rows and turkey changing its position as well because of that it withdrew the order trysts seismic survey ship right in december was that one of the signs i mean the job which all of the foreign minister of turkey called it positive messages that turkey was sending positive measures and messages rather was that really turkey changing its policy because it's saw the really the in the global situation changing against is changing its patents it's changing its tactics because the policy hasn't is that i mean all the settlers are crazy. that has been like you know we are still with us right now the only thing that has tended to talk is not sending these ships into the content the watchers so that the only thing that changed since the last time. i think if that if the tolls

resumes and progress highly likely will not you know will not see the ships going into the contest what it is and soon but we should not exclude the fact that it is you might go into the waters is it things get worse as well so on this is we've got over not over extend oh not overstate the importance of the change of the government in us it certainly is important the situation of the car i'm very certain there are we just got a minute left and try and give it to and and ask the same kind of question time dress but do you think that the changing global situation will strengthen the greek position in talks or at least embolden it and lead it to believe that it has a stronger position right now this surely is the one we have and it was haitians when we come it was usually at any point in time. the balance or imbalance of power influences the outcome. so far turkey has been trying to use gunboat diplomacy in

us that since these boots are in surplus and with greece in order to push for its positions i would say that the european union has been tolerating to a great extent turkey but you know since this is a repeat it it begins to show that turkish region is who is the stable it's the indicators of the united states we have trump who also. trolling a pretty great extent president urkel and in this issue is whether the new u.s. administration would follow up writing i would say finishing up my thoughts were jews mentioned earlier about it's not and it's a few years ago i mean that in the world has been taking place the issues that i have no doubt in my mind that yves turkey used to respect the total integrity and then i go existence of neighboring countries to exist if i

think there can be cooperation does the many trillion encouraged by the european union and they mislead or america if turkey maintains its that region is. up to it you and policies i think the maximum that can be done by other powers is conflict management thank you very much andreas there feel thoughts let's try and end on hopes of the escalation and that's thank also gallup in london and natalie of course totty in rome. and thank you to fortune you can see the show again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com for further discussion head over to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j. inside story from me sam is a band and the whole team here now is good buy. criminal

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