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without any thought they just imposed them. about half of india's 1300000000 people work in agriculture the government's offer to delay the new loss for 18 months has been rejected by farmers. they say they will continue protesting until the last are fully repeal. cuts your local civilian how does it. play again i'm fairly battle with the headlines on al-jazeera israel's most senior military commander has revealed the development of new offensive plans against iran lieutenant general aviv says he's ordered his forces to step up preparations for possible military action in the coming year is also urging u.s. president joe biden to step back from any return to the 2015 nuclear deal global coronavirus infections have now topped 100000000 scientists believe the real number
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of cases is likely to be higher because of low levels of testing 2020 or the 100000 people in the u.k. have now died from covered 19 britain has recorded iran 3600000 infections and health officials us jails struggling to contain the outbreak on this day i should just really repeat that i am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course as good as i was prime minister i take full responsibility for everything that the government has done what i can tell you is that we truly did everything we could and continue to do everything that we can to minimize loss of life and to minimize suffering in what has been a very very difficult. stage the very very difficult crisis for our country. the united states senate has sworn in $100.00 senators to act as jurors in the enrichment trial of former president donald trump starting next month trump is
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accused of inciting an interaction for his speech to supporters before they stormed the capitol building 3 weeks ago at least 17 republicans need to vote against strom for him to be convicted ugandan opposition leader bobby wine says the police siege on his home was a form of torture he had been under house arrest since a presidential election 12 days ago that wind claims are sponsored and security forces have now lifted the blockade after a court order and world leaders have called for more funding to protect vulnerable communities on the final day of the comet adaptation summits in the hague attendee stressed the importance of addressing the impact of climate change on migrants and refugees and they also want to ensure young people are included in the climate conversation you have to sit with headlines on al-jazeera have more news for you after inside story to stay with us thanks for watching.
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a strong man weakened by a virus protests his call for the impeachment of brazil's president over the covert 19 crisis will he survive and what does it mean for populism in the region this is inside story. hello and welcome to the show i'm sam he's a than he's been a staunch coronavirus skeptic but now brazil's president is in the hot seat for his
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handling of the pandemic thousands of people have taken to the streets demanding he be impeached over the nation's health crisis or recent polls show his approval ratings have declined many people are calling on him to leave office also naro has been blamed for a lack of government planning and the delay in rolling out vaccines brazil is among the worst hit countries with the 2nd largest number of cope with 19 deaths they stand at more than 215000 infections are surging hospitals are overstretched and oxygen supplies are running low relative to build up their mood i feel as if brazil doesn't have a government brazil has been left to fend for itself we have psychopaths in power and the time has come no one can take it anymore we're not going to wait for a 1000000 of our people to die for people to rise up nobody can. take it anymore.
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because there's all this horrible fake news that is deceiving people and the president's disapproval rating is greater than his approval gather strength we have to get rid of that guy ross brazil will go and he will prevent the economy to impeachment now out with possible. but popular stand conservative president took office in 2019 after defeating leftists who'd ruled for decades his victory was seen as part of growing support for far right movements in many countries he's been criticized for favoring torture and praising the nation's former dictatorship his comments on race gender and sexual orientation of also provoked controversy the president has labeled coronavirus a little flu pushed for quarantine measures to be lifted and sent contradictory messages about mosques and social distancing and he's been sued by indigenous leaders at the international criminal court over damage caused by his environmental policies.
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let's bring our guest into the show now have joining us from london carlos say though is a senior principal analyst focusing on brazil at i.h.s. market in sao paolo we have gabrielle alotta she's a professor of public administration at the go to you about a gas foundation and in london we have francisco domingo as he's the head of a research group on latin america at middlesex university welcome to you all if i could start with gabriela in south paolo gabriele how much of a threat are the current protests in the street. hi everybody it's an honor to be here with you so we started having a product that's trying to leave after a long period of. decrease up there approval of the president but now we don't really know what's going on because of the situation in. here
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of course now we are discussing impeachment we have this about that but we don't have any kind of agreement about the next in order to have an impeachment we have to have an agreement to give you an example we had to cut one on saturday and one on. the saturday one was about the people on the left and the founding one was a problem that people are there right so this society is very divided but everybody is somehow blaming the president now about this crisis the economy and that it's interesting francisco how significant is it though although it's not very clear if there's a consensus how significant is it that parts of the right wing have joined the protests even if it's on a different day or so of course. i think is very significant name but also now as
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being we can. remember he is the who 50 percent now says he's much slower. and on top of the he have the majority so if it was the middle of the party in terms of seats in the congress 56 he's got his group there now is in the real 22 who is really. has he's facing 400 requests for quality 7 requests of investment from both organizations both political parties and the accusations range from me the meaning of to grow. your own rising proving you know criminal. activity so and this is a small while $400.00 social organizations plus more or less asians the crucial question for me seems is is this will the elite in the congress and the senate be brave enough to actually you know vote well it seems to me that that will
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probably because if you were to compare the anti say sions against dilma rousseff utensil grimes humans who personally committed with honor and then with the resent usual evidence then you know the general says presentation if you can so therefore is a political question will you change. the majority view of the congress voted to impeach her when he comes to him he's different i think the reason it is will this court is the reason either they're very worried about what comes out if he goes and does a thing where a resignation lies within the political people in the political class in the congress and so all that takes us nicely to the next point then which i want to put the car was when you evaluate the risk facing presume right now what is it i mean what would happened but in the question of if he is impinged where does that leave
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the country well let me say 1st that in our. case base case scenario we don't think. there is right now a significant likelihood of president bush out of bidding peach actually i agree totally that. he says support in the video of course he is the top for your what gift 3031 percent approval rating a 40 percent rejection rate is the west's he was elected that's quite clear. the media and their position is asking for his impeachment does it actually. now and now is history merely bad for him but we need to look closely at that way politics operate in brazil. was mentioned here i think one of the one of the political process heart she was buried at huntley
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political alliances finding the raw equalisation i think she was very flexible and that's why in the end she was impeached on her children more dexterity to bring people together in fart i think for us the critical critical indicator will be the election or the head of the lower house speaker the lower house and the president decided on the face of february are the latest information we heard is the candy these reports are not a patch of green in the senate a nod to leader in the lower house are the favorite to to win the election so in. the upcoming elections rather than being a risk to him will strengthen will most likely strengthen his position in the congress well i'm talking about the election of the leadership of congress which takes place on the face of february the current speaker of the house. they'll point
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one is a declare any me or bush on araa. maja has a candidate he's supporting the valet or rossi. behind our true leader which is the country. and the latest tally suggests the leader is going to win the race it leader wins then there is a been here impeach bush diminish significantly and they say in the senate and the critical guy is going to be the speaker of the whole because there is the person who has to a set or rigid that request for an impeachment as. as was mentioned before 57 requests for his impeachment has been made but reagan mayor the outgoing never. table any of those requests if leader when the lower house with the supportable so not all friends and parties i see less possibility of this happening nonetheless nonetheless. the decline in popularity will actually and the bible
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so narrow chances or elected 202022 he's losing super on the former core to base the world behind him in 2018 ok let me take that scenario to gabrielle and say that seems to be the sort of analysis that you hear right now but when you take into account the the drop in popularity i think the last poll on friday talked about an 8 percent also or 7 percent decrease in popularity in a relatively short period of time can one count on the senate the house of deputies the chamber of deputies being you know indifferent to the rising public distrust of the president as time goes on if those
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numbers continue to for. yeah to think about impeachment interesting i think we have to think about for different reasons so there is the legal one and it's obvious that we have all the legal. situation in order to have an impeachment we have to think about the support from the city tense and these one is the crazy in this is very important is the creasing that that's why we have all of the protests we have to think about the support from the elite and this is the grieving but not in the earth so we still have a lot of businessman supporting both formats and they fund the guy to so it's important to think about and and then the for a reason that can make i and impeachment move on is about the political support as francis was explaining but actually the president of the congress that believe there are the congress he has a very important role because he's the one who are rules are not. so of course he
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will listen to all of these other reasons he will listen to the society you listen to the elite but he is the one who makes the decision and of course those are a lot of the question behind the scenes here governor how hard hit him go in ignoring polls of him there are some scenarios talking about his popularity could reach into the twenty's or which point it would be very hard for the congress to ignore that and to ignore the impeachment course it depends who are the twenty's and it depends how the 80 percent of the others are stronger not to make any treatment happen so what as i was just saying is that if inside of 20 we have financial power then we will not go on with a ph so the congress are not only listening to the society they are also listening to this is i think there are a lot of other things going on here in this kind of are. interesting
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francisco thought extent was the outbreak in my mouse in particular a political turning point. i think. the alliance of this question will the concentrating exclusively you're going to mention maneuvers. which is important in terms of understanding well might happen ignores completely the rest of the company's business is being in charge brazil is going down quite remarkably you know every single is called i mean this is not respect for the international brazil was a very strong winds in the world the economy was growing well growing quite dramatically income distribution was getting better all the time and so on and so forth now is exactly the opposite but with a vengeance this very very very bad and he's at it you regarding the car with
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19 pandemic there's been a civilian calling i mean these words non-dollar trump by you know one to 10. and as a result of that he's very bad and as a consequence you know people are dying visibly because of sheen's lack of competence and complete disregard for the world you know presumptive law and that's why man house became such an important focal political quine my issue is how can we you know she sections of the economy ignore the when the hat was being as well to send then oxygen and venezuela's sentiment literally encreasing every 7 days he's already sent 136. 1000 liters of horses just to sort it out was the word temporary the problem and he continues to actually have exactly so if as a result of parliamentary maneuvers ignoring him situations land man hours and you
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know the rest of the society continues then there are 2 options which i think because of the and read of these logical provoke and the level of these terms as in every person since including big stock exchange and the economy as a whole then the government was an aries very heavily militarized he's brought team . in some cases some unsavory characters who haven't caught my views consequently the military might be tempted to go for something more dramatic not as only a could percent or you know to actually gain even more prominence which is not good for brazil it's not good for anybody now all realms then he is on one hand on what kind of measures are you hinting at francisco that you could see well if easterling to acquire more prominence and there prove these to be the case already which is very nice progression under present doesn't have any but it doesn't help the people
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at the people or industries and this is going to continue and if i'm a growth in these lonely for the time being because of the recession if you knew there was going on in the rest of the continent you know repression person who produces the opposite result this is the will eventually and so on finally in them sort of trunk being defeated how can anybody you know legitimately continue with such and grow the crowd as i get you to part of the sense for a while it's a good thing you mentioned that point that segues nice into my next question i want to bring it to gabrielle how much of this protest and impeachment move in brazil has been actually inspired by what's happened to donald trump in the u.s. do you think. at what clear now i think that that's one of the reasons of the drought that is that older. actually both and i was having a strategy of beans reported by by tramp and think that he was apart by tram so i
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packed up he is core said he set it to where big is it and the idea that trent was doing this and now that trying to our election and most of all the way he had it after to election i made it clear to brazilians also that tramp was not a good solution and most of all that brazil has not the support of usa anymore and this will be a big problem for us in the future and actually i do think if we see the impeachment process pick up in the us that that might rub off on to brazil as well yes yes of course of course because it's clear now for president that we're supporting trunk and we're supporting boss and i don't but there are a lot of mistakes in this in all of this process i think that things and i've been clear an hour and this is our why also the impeachment and can i get i don't think that we have here situation are richmond right now right i think there's
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a lot of things to a lot of really like it's a huge play of course i think each one after arms increases the chances are out of there i have a howling wilderness and let me go back gary francisco before i go to carlos and say can we make this assumption or analysis here that the tide when you look at what's happened to donald trump and you know what's happening to ball scenario with his popularity at least is the tide turning against populism in the americas. you know that kind of populism i mean became extremely popular with he's with some of the issues you the low you know some of the political grow no the completely critical because people are losing the united states and i'm sure as well can see where they lead to they lead to a very intimate grantley gratus including a practical bio as imagine rohini regime change being brought to the united states by the us president himself this is unbelievable so anybody who resembles trump now
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that drunk is facing impeachment and it was a brilliant show and conviction you know what is going to actually have anything it was somebody labels a narrow who has money for one idea that he's views which are too new to be crass how can he when he faces these crisis what he's trying to do to concentrate upon in germany which is not going to support him or is not going to strengthen him is going to weaken the altie all right let me out here for impeachment all right i think better we've been talking about obviously the health risk the political risk is there an economic risk here that's building as well it might not be the most prominent thing in the headlines which is kind of dominated by street protests but when you look at some of the dry numbers government spending is shot up by 40 percent between january and november of last year debt is at 91 percent of g.d.p. are harder times right around the corner. yeah i think i said at the beginning
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the. leader can right now no condition for impeachment for the reason i explained before. now only to add that because of the color we look down the possibility of having millions of people on the streets are was the case with dilma is not yet but i see in britain others facing 2 major trees one he get out of. there is a 2nd wave been 18 claymore a moralizer and he is totally out of his depth and he can handle the uk. the 2nd thing is these income transfer the may he temporary popular in 2020 cain 200 on the safe side effects are december and there is no money brazil is a broken treaty fiscal deficit brazil right now 50 percent of g.d.p. there are hardly any matters arising entrusts right. well. the
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us does the danger fall for bush or not he could actually go into populist measure and trying to implement. and bring back these cliff package but there is no money he does corona now if you lose the clowns there is so called corona about as he does that. there is no money to do it but he does that he will lose the confidence of the financial markets straight away brazil be downgraded. the axis of brazil to capital market will be more complicated so it economy tanks are there corona by those get out of control and he continued blocking there the approval of the backs him for the by the chinese or the rash eric cetera then i saying they perceive a leader an impeachment would increase but you need to take into consideration these 3 factors are there is there is also the question of time and i think a lot of people were. now opposition improve the election in 2022 and many other
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people don't want him. in the political party we say ok yeah he has committed a lot of crimes here but actually the best option for us is start building a coalition to the if he he in 2022 so that possibility. or i think we've got a couple minutes left let me try and give it to gabrielle and ask this question if the situation is deteriorating economically politically becoming more unstable and healthwise we know the challenge there is this translating into more of an opportunity for the left what it why isn't there the sort of consensus among the non balls on our forces or anti balls on our forces. we are facing now i've been through ups between 2 ideas that support the government and we don't know how to modify it so also a model is governing both populists. populi actually politics so the
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idea of cap transfer 5 percent of that brought him many support from the poor people and at the same time you had a lot of force by bit a liberal agenda but right now with the possible to conciliate our cheap conciliation over the popular and the liberal agenda and both exercise trying to in 14 to make a decision will he make the kind of reform that the liberal agenda wants him to do are we to keep doing cash transfer program even these we don't have enough money so this kind of the season both and i do will have to do right now and these 2 make him lose support from one of the part of the story at the same time as conall just that the help i mentioned is getting worse and worse and we have no perspectives are getting better because we don't have the 60 votes out of government with china
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and with the new and with that her body will retire this week so we don't have any perspective of getting in those vaccines and of course this makes people die more and at the same time it makes the economy don't increase enough because we don't have to go back to egypt so we have like how can i say i'm mom and a lot of surprises and expands on how the government will deal with all of them and which decisions he will make in order to know the right kind of support to be able to head up on the path to leave more about the liberal agenda so it's really a bad moment purple from out that's how they make the right decisions for the sake of president thanks so much to our guests thomas case either. and francis who good domingo and thank you too for watching you can see the show again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com for further discussion head over to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j.
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