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european horses specifically for racing he breeds imported inclusion animals which cost me around $50000.00 to transport from the u.k. . the difficulties of raising pure foreign breeds is you need better quality pasture environment they're not used to harsh winters it's much more challenging and expensive horses are a way of life in this mountainous region of central asia. for bucket and his fellow hood is they mean more than the money in pristine. chunks stratford i'll just era northern kyrgyzstan. this is there are these all the top stories a 38 year old nurse has become the 1st person to get the covert $900.00 that scene in bangladesh the campaign began in the capital with an occupation expected to begin next. time the child or. at least out of 7000000
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vaccine 2000000 were donated by the goodwill 5000000 were purchased in a trilateral agreement between the farmer the government and the indian government although the vaccine. right now history has already been made the 1st nurse a 30 year yet all very ironic of course was the 1st person in bangladesh to be given the vaccine a dozen other health worker in this hospital which is right behind me the court major like general hospital where it will kick start and then at least 5 to 600 people across different hospitals mostly phosphorescent under will be given this vaccine the see the drug maker astra zeneca says a 400000000 vaccine deal with the european union was quote not a contractual commitment his comments follow from the e.u. often the company was forced to cut supplies citing production problems. israel's
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senior military commander says he's ordered his forces to speed up preparations for possible military action against iran is also edging u.s. president joe biden against rejoining the iran nuclear deal. russia's upper has a parliament has russified an extension to the nuclear arms control pact the u.s. it's the last remaining arms control agreement between the 2 nations after donald trump withdrew from 2 others during his term u.s. president joe biden had proposed a 5 year extension the deal was due to expire in about a week. the indian government has tightened security new delhi after an unprecedented day of protests by tens of thousands of film is 2000 paramilitary soldiers have been deployed farmers have been demonstrating for months against new law was they say will ruin livelihoods those are the headlines news continues here now because their options i'd stories stay with us.
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a strong man weakened by a virus protests his call for the impeachment of brazil's president over the covert 19 crisis will he survive and what does it mean for populism in the region this is inside story. hello and welcome to the show i'm sam he's a than he's been a staunch coronavirus skeptic but now brazil's president is in the hot seat for his
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handling of the pandemic thousands of people have taken to the streets demanding he be impeached over the nation's health crisis or recent polls show his approval ratings have declined many people are calling on him to leave office also naro has been blamed for a lack of government planning and the delay in rolling out vaccines brazil is among the worst hit countries with the 2nd largest number of cope with 19 deaths they stand at more than 215000 infections are surging hospitals are overstretched and oxygen supplies are running low relative to build up their me i feel as if brazil doesn't have a government brazil has been left to fend for itself we have psychopaths in power and the time has come no one can take it anymore we're not going to wait for a 1000000 of our people to die for people to rise out of nobody. take it anymore.
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because there's all this horrible fake news that is deceiving people and the president's disapproval rating is greater than his approval gather strength we have to get rid of that guy ross brazil will go and he will prevent the economy to impeachment now out with possible. but popular stand conservative president took office in 2019 after defeating leftists who'd ruled for decades his victory was seen as part of growing support for far right movements in many countries he's been criticized for favoring torture and praising the nation's former dictatorship his comments on race gender and sexual orientation of also provoked controversy the president has labeled coronavirus a little flu pushed for quarantine measures to be lifted and sent contradictory messages about mosques and social distancing and he's been sued by indigenous leaders at the international criminal court over damage caused by his environmental policies.
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let's bring our guest into the show now have joining us from london carlos say though is a senior principal analyst focusing on brazil at i.h.s. market in sao paolo we have gabrielle alotta she's a professor of public administration at the go to you about a gas foundation and in london we have francisco domingo's he's the head of a research group on latin america at middlesex university welcome to you all if i could start with gabrielle in south paolo gabriele how much of a threat are the current protests in the street. hi everybody it's an honor to be here with you so we started having a product that's trying to leave after a long period of. decrease of their approval of the president but now we don't really know what's going on because of the situation in. here
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of course now we are discussing impeachment we have this about that but we don't have any kind of agreement about the next in order to have an impeachment we have to have an agreement to give you an example we had to cut one on saturday and one on. the saturday one was about the people on the left and the founding one was a problem that people are there right so this society is very divided but everybody is somehow blaming the president now about this crisis the economy and that it's interesting francisco how significant is it though although it's not very clear if there's a consensus how significant is it that parts of the right wing have joined the protests even if it's on a different day or so of course. i think is very significant name but also now as
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being we can. remember he is the who 50 percent now says he's much lower. and on top of the he have the majority so if it was the middle of the party in terms of seats in the congress 56 he's got his group there now is in the real 22 who is really. has he's facing 400 requests for quality 7 requests of investment from both organizations both political parties and the accusations range from me the meaning of to grow. your own rising proving you know criminal. activity so and this is a small while $400.00 social organizations plus more or less asians the crucial question for me seems is is this will the elite in the congress and the senate be brave enough to actually you know vote well it seems to me that that will
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probably because if you were to compare the anti say sions against dilma rousseff utensil crimes humans who personally committed with honor and then with the resent usual evidence then you know the general says presentation if you can so therefore is a political question will you change. the majority view of the congress voted to impeach her when he comes to him he's different i think the reason is a lot of this will this point is the reason either they're very worried about what comes out of that if he goes and does a thing where a resignation lies within the political people in the political class in the congress and so all that takes us nicely to the next point then which i want to put the car was when you evaluate the risk facing presume right now what is it i mean what would happened but in the question of if he is impinged where does that leave
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the country well let me say 1st that in our. case base case scenario we don't think. there is right now a significant likelihood of president bush are repeating peach actually i agree totally that. he's support in the video of course he is the top for your what gift 3031 percent approval rating a 40 percent rejection rate is the west's he was elected that's quite clear. the media and their position is asking for his impeachment does it actually. now and now is history merely bad for him but we need to look closely at that way politics operate in brazil. was mentioned here i think one of the one of the political process heart she was buried at
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a monthly political alliances finding the raw equalization i think she was very flexible and that's why in the end she was impeached on her children more dexterity to bring people together in fart i think for us the critical critical indicator will be the election or the head of the lower house speaker the white house and the president decided on the face of february are the latest information we heard is the candy these reports are not a patch of green in the senate a nod to leader in the lower house are the favorite to to win the election so in. the upcoming elections rather than being a risk to him will strengthen will most likely strengthen his position in the congress well i'm talking about the election of the leadership of congress which takes place on the face of february the current speaker of the house. they'll point
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one is a declare any me or bush on araa. maja has a candidate he's supporting the valet are rossi. behind and through the leader which is the country. and the latest tally suggests the leader is going to win the race it leader wins then there is a been here impeach bush diminish significantly and they say in the senate and the critical guy is going to be the speaker of the whole because he's there is the person who has to a set or reject the request for an impeachment as. as was mentioned before 57 requests for his impeachment has been made but reagan mayor the outgoing never. table any of those requests if leader wind the lower house with the supportable so not all friends and parties i see less possibility of this happening nonetheless nonetheless. the decline in popularity will actually and my
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bills are not 0 chances or elected 202022 he's losing super on the former core to base their work behind him in 2018 ok let me take that scenario to gabrielle and say that seems to be the sort of analysis that you hear right now but when you take into account the the drop in popularity i think the last poll on friday talked about an 8 percent also or 7 percent decrease in popularity in a relatively short period of time can one count of on the senate the house of deputies the chamber of deputies being you know indifferent to the rising public distrust of the president as time goes on if those
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numbers continue to for. yeah to think about impeachment interesting i think we have to think about for different reasons so there is the legal one and it's obvious that we have all the legal. situation in order to have an impeachment we have to think about the support from the city tense and these one is the crazy in this is very important is the crazing that that's why we have all of the protests we have to think about the support from the elite and this is the grieving but not in the earth so we still have a lot of businessman supporting both formats and they fund the guy to so it's important to think about and and then the 4th reason that can make i am impeachment move on is about the political support as francis was explaining but actually the president of the congress that believe there are the congress he has a very important role because he's the one who are rules are not. so of course he
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will listen to all of these other reasons he will listen to the society you listen to the elite but he is the one who makes the decision and of course those are a lot of the question behind the scenes here governor how hard it go in ignoring polls of him there are some scenarios talking about his popularity could reach into the twenty's a which point it would be very hard for the congress to ignore that and to ignore the impeachment course it depends who are the twenty's and it depends how the 80 percent of the others are stronger not to make any treatment happen so what as i was just saying if that if inside of 20 we have financial power then we will not go on with a ph so the congress are not only listening to the society they are also listening to the society but there are a lot of other things going on here in this kind of are. interesting
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francisco to what extent was the outbreak in my mouse in particular a political turning point. i think. the unanswered is questionable these you're concentrating exclusively you're going to mention maneuvers. which is important in terms of understanding well might happen ignores completely the rest of the companies this is being in charge brazil is going down quite romantic you know every single of course i mean this is not respect for international go brazil was a very strong winds in the world the economy was growing well growing quite dramatically income distribution was getting better all the time and so on and so forth now is exactly the opposite but with a vengeance this very very very bad and he's at it you regarding the car with
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19 pandemic there's been a civilian corny i mean he's worse than donald trump by me you know monday but then . as a result of that he's very bad and as a consequence you know people have done it reasonably because of cheese lack of competence and complete disregard for the world you know presumptive land that's why man house became such an important focal political quine my issue is how can we you know she sections of the economy ignore the when the hat was being as well to send in oxygen and venezuela's sentiment in literally everything every 7 days she's already sent 136. 1000 liters of horses just to sort it out was the word temporary the problem and he continues to actually have exactly so if as a result of parliamentary maneuvers ignoring him situations lanham analysis you
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know the rest of the society continues then there are 2 options which i think because of the and read of these logical provoke and the level of these terms as you never present a sense including big stock exchange and the economy as a whole then the government goes another is very heavily militarized he's brought team. in some cases some unsavory characters who haven't caught my views and in consequence the military might be tempted to go for something more dramatic not exactly a cool percent or you know to actually gain even more prominence which is not good for brazil it's not good for anybody now all realms then he is on one hand on what kind of measures are you hinting at francisco that you could see well if easterling to acquire more prominence and there prove these to be the case already which is the. least regression under present doesn't have any but it doesn't help the people
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of india people or industries and this is going to continue and if i'm a growth in these lonely for the time being because of the recession if you know there was going on in the rest of the continent you know repression person who produces the opposite result this is the will eventually and so are finally intense of trant being defeated how can anybody you legitimately continue with such and grow the crowd as i get you to part of the sense for a while it's a good thing you mention that point that segues nice into my next question i want to bring it to gabrielle how much of this protest and impeachment move in brazil has been actually inspired by what's happened to donald trump in the u.s. do you think. at what clear now i think that that's one of the reasons of the drought that is that older. actually both and i was having a strategy of beans reported by my tramp and think that he was apart by trying so i
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packed up he is cor said he said to where big is it and the idea that tramp was doing this and now that drunk you are the election and most of all the way he had it efter to lection i made it clear to brazilians also that tramp was not a good solution and most of all that brazil has not the support of usa anymore and this will be a big problem for us in the future and actually i do think if we see the impeachment process pick up in the us that that might rub off on to brazil as well yes yes of course of course because it's clear now for president that we're supporting trunk and we're supporting both and i don't but there are a lot of mistakes in this in all of this process i think that things and i've been clear an hour and this is our why also the impeachment can can i get i don't think that we have here situation are richmond right now right i think there's
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a lot of things to a lot of really like it a huge play of course i think each one after arms increases the chances are out of there i have a howling wilderness and let me go back gary francisco before i go to carlos and say can we make this assumption or analysis here that the tide when you look at what's happened to donald trump and you know what's happening to ball scenario with his popularity at least is the tide turning against populism in the americas. you know that kind of populism i mean became extremely popular wikis where some of the issues you the low you know some of the political growth now are the completely critical because people are losing the united states and i'm sure as well can see where they lead to they lead to a very intimate grantley gratus including a practical bio as imagine rohini regime change being brought to the united states by the us president himself this is unbelievable so anybody who resembles trump now
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that drunk is facing impeachment and it was a brilliant turn on conviction you know what is going to actually have anything it was somebody labels a narrow who has money for one idea that he'll be too new to be crass how can he when he faces these prices 'd what he's trying to do to concentrate upon in germany which is not going to support him or is not going to strengthen him is going to weaken the altie all right let me out here for impeachment all right i think better we've been talking about obviously the health risk the political risk is there an economic risk here that's building as well it might not be the most prominent thing in the headlines which is kind of dominated by street protests but when you look at some of the dry numbers government spending is shot up by 40 percent between january and november of last year debt is at 91 percent of g.d.p. are harder times right around the corner. yeah i think i said at the beginning
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the. leader can right now no condition for impeachment for the reason i explained before. now only to add that because of the color we look down the possibility of having millions of people on the streets are was the case with dilma is not there yet but i see him bush and others facing 2 major arteries one he get out of. there is a 2nd wave been 18 claymore a moralizer and he is totally out of his depth term he can handle that. the 2nd thing is these income transfer them may he temporary popular in 2020 cain 200 on the safe side effects are december and there is no money brazil is a broken treaty fiscal deficit brazil right now is 15 percent of g.d.p. there are hardly any measures a rise in interest rights. well. the us does the danger fall for bush or
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not he could actually go into populist measure and trying to implement. and bring back the cliff package but there is no money he does corona now if you lose the clowns. there is so called corona about as he does that. there is no money to do it but he does that he will lose the confidence of the financial markets straight away brazil we downgraded. the axis of brazil to capital market will be more complicated so it economy tanks are they gonna buy those get out of control and he continued blocking there the approval of the backs him for the by the chinese or the rash eric cetera then i saying they perceive a leader an impeachment would increase but you need to take into consideration these 3 factors are there is there is also the question of time and i think a lot of people were. now opposition improve the election in 2022 and many other
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people don't want him. in the political party we say ok yeah he has committed a lot of crimes here but actually the best option for us is start building a coalition to defeat he in 2022 so there are possibilities. or i think we've got a couple minutes left let me try and give it to gabrielle and ask this question if the situation is deteriorating economically politically becoming more unstable and healthwise we know the challenge there is this translating into more of an opportunity for the left what it why isn't there the sort of consensus among the non balls on our forces or anti boss on our of forces. we are facing now i've been through ups between 2 ideas that support the government and we don't know how to modify it so also a model is governing both populists. populi actually politics so the
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idea of cap transfer 5 percent of that brought him many support from the poor people and at the same time you had a lot of force by bit a liberal agenda but right now with the possible to conciliate our cheap conciliating all the popular and the liberal agenda and both exercise trying to in 14 to make a decision will he make the kind of reform that the liberal agenda wants him to do are we to keep doing cash transfer program even these we don't have enough money so this kind of the season for not a will have to do right now and these to make him lose support from one of the fact of the story at the same time as conall just that the help i mentioned is getting worse and worse and we have no perspectives are getting better because we don't have a 16 hour boat out of government with china and with india and with that who body
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will retire this week so we don't have any perspective of getting in those vaccines and of course this makes people die more and at the same time it makes the economy don't increase enough because we don't have to go back to egypt so we have like how can i say i'm mom and a lot of surprises and it expands on how the government will deal with all of them and which decisions he will make in order to know the right kind of support to be able to head up on the path to leave more about the liberal agenda so it's really up a bad mom and purple from out let's hope they make the right decisions for the sake of presidents thanks so much to our guests thomas case either. gov riyad a lot francisco good domingo's and thank you too for watching you can see the show again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com for further discussion head over to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j.
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