didn't start until she was 31 she broke down barriers for not just black people in hollywood but for black women ever typically women of darkness did we know what the goal were viola davis octavia spencer lupita nyong'o go with out cicely tyson she wanted to uplift the culture she wanted to change this perceptions and not buy into the stereotypes that we know that hollywood and the entertainment industry has historically had for black people she was groundbreaking at pioneering and she used her art to make change and the fact that she was still working up into the very end she had just done an amazing interview her memoir with gayle king that just aired 2 days before she passed living until you're 96 with the body of work in a legacy like cicely tyson that's what we call good living and that's the legacy we should all and sat.

there with allen says there are these are all top stories the u.s. drug company never backed says its coronavirus fact scene has been shown to be more than 89 percent effective joint trials in the u.k. as trial suggests it's effective against a new variant of covert 901st found in the u.k. . but will present jabil sonora has promised to quickly vaccinate everyone in the country and made a new wave of current virus infections that so far less than one percent of the population has received the vaccine when i get to kiev has more from rio de janeiro . on the one side he's saying that he's going to vaccinate resilience for asked on the other side he's he and he's changed his tune with china as well he has been attacked china and china is working with brazil to produce the corona vaccine here and as well as supplying the material for astra zeneca to produce vaccines in brazil and the president had been attacking china all this time

this is change because time was running out to brazil was are ready lagging behind its neighbors to start 1 inoculation experts from the world health organization have chinese scientists and will they continue their investigation into the origins of covert 19 the team is now expected to conduct field visits in the city but research as would visit hospitals labs and the food markets that have been linked to the earliest cases of the virus protests in lebanon have been growing as anger rises at lockdown measures and government corruption security forces fired tear gas and water cannon the crowds of protesters gathered in the city of tripoli 2 people were killed in 4 days of unrest. with all the headlines we're back with more news after the bottom line do stay with us if you can.

20. and 3. hi i'm steve clements and i have a question will the pandemic lead us to rethink our relationship with nature let's get to the bottom line. today we take a step back from the usual ups and downs of american politics to talk about something much wider and crucial to our future the planet that we live on for tens of thousands of years humans and that means you me our ancestors have been manipulating the environment for economic gain it's just what we do we move mountains that shouldn't be moved cut down trees over fish eradicate diverse species from the face of the earth the world economy is not designed to promote environmental sustainability at least not yet in fact it's the exact opposite it's built for endless consumption of resources the question today is whether in the

middle of this horrible 'd pandemic can we push reset can we get back to normal in a way that restores balance with the natural world and we're talking to one of the most influential advocates for the health of the planet jane goodall has been a leading voice for conservation and protection of wildlife for decades ever since she spent decades studying chimpanzees in the wild and opened our eyes to broader questions in the scientific world in many ways she has become the ever present responsible voice of our conscience without which we could even be more destructive dr goodall it's very good to be with you today to talk about these important issues and i'm going to start where we last met which was in devil switzerland at the world economic forum where i saw you blow away a lot of the rich and powerful in the world but today the world economic forum started this week online and then 2 in yoga terrace the secretary general made the statement we are waging war on our night shouldn't destroying our life support system and they should be striking back. i'd like to get your car it's about that because he's both warning you know the rich and powerful that the world is

descending into chaos and telling them they better get on it do you agree with him is there more to the story that we should be discussing well i said i said you know agree with him you know i've been saying for ages and i probably said it to you before but we compared to our closest living relatives the chimpanzees the biggest difference is explosive development of intellect and there's no question i mean chimps are highly intelligent on animals and to me i mean i think we designed a rocket that went in mohsen a robot that took photos mas and it's amazing what we have being able to do isn't it bizarre that this most intellectual creature is destroying handsomely we don't want to go live on the we've seen what it looks like i mean i don't want to live now i'm sure you do. and so we've only got this one beautiful planet

and we are in the process of destroying it is no question but if intellect is as amazing as i think it is then we do have the ability if if if we get together around the want without wasting time and try to heal some of the harm and at least slow down time and change which by the way is a much more existential threat to our future and the future of life on earth than this pandemic horrible no this endemic is. but i know the world does not revolve around the united states but we do have a new president and one of the 4 pillars that he's put out there that he says he wants to embed in all of his policy actions is is action on climate change and you've just mentioned that are you boyd up are you hopeful by what you've seen from from president biden so far do you think this is an inflection point for american leadership on these issues in a way that matters or you know i think we've always you know heard things but now

we have this line you know will way of walk the walk what is your sense of. what my sense is he's already will it won't peace already committed to rejoining the paris climate agreement and you know i think i think well i feel and i know hundreds of american friends of mine that we have a new possibility in the united states which after all is the most economically powerful still and all it is evident will restrict some protecting the environment that the trumpet ministration put into place by the has committed to to change and he's already trying to become. i understand i'm very hopeful and dr goodall i have the hour spent hours many many hours upon hours watching. as much as we've been able to see your relationship with chimpanzees and i guess i want to ask in

a non facetious way in a serious way i mean if they were in charge of this planet what could we learn from them about how they deal with their environment how i mean what would you say are the biggest lessons we could draw from the primates you've spent so much time connecting with. you know this is really a question that isn't going to really help us very much because the way chimpanzees are not they're not overpopulating they aren't arment the way we are then not using complex technology innovations but they would if they could and you know in the old days if you go into some of the people who are still living out in the forest they are not harming their environment but they can they wouldn't recruit and i think from the industrial revolution when food began to be more

plentiful we started a population began growing and that was the beginning of the rot. i think that's a very fair answer you i thought about it but i mean there is a there is a beauty out there one of the things that i've been thinking about all of us mean very smart animal smart folks of our environment being able to manipulate as i mentioned in the introduction in a race of this question we know we have a pandemic and we have a virus that literally has in a way hunting us down to some degree you know we have the ability i think potentially to survive it but that victimhood that knit notion one of a zoo or an arctic virus passed from animals to humans and passed from animals to other animals in whether or not our you think there's a there's a chastening and that a moment where we have to be humble and look at the fact that there are there are elements of what we're doing that are quite dangerous that we need to change course and i absolutely do think it i mean this pandemic has disrupted economies around

the world it's led to death it's led to suffering as lead to loss of jobs and we now know that this is because we have so disrespected animals and the natural we create the conditions where these pathogens can jump from animals to people and it's been predicted by those studying zoonotic diseases for a long time and you know the next one could be worse if bona had a very high rate get to interaction and this condom it doesn't but supposing the next one. kill so many more people like it would if it was it going or if the bona was in as infectious this coach and so we really do need to rethink our relationship with the natural one of which we are caught and on which we depend and our relationship with the animals with whom we should chant misprint

. do you have thoughts on this time on covert in what what kind of red warning lights are going off that worry you well that warning lights are simply that as i say we disrespect animals we're treating them in ways that i mean you know the golden rule of every single major religion around the world is do to others as he would have them do to you and animals ascend in being good not just things and way treating them as though that commodities and this if you care about animals the way i do if you understand the sentience then this is it's a black mark against our humanity actually and we really do need to change that now is mahatma gandhi who sent you can tell me something about the nation by the way it treats its animals we're not treating animals. correctly and it's not just the

wildlife in the bush meat markets in the wildlife markets in asia and the trafficking it's also our factory farms. all over the want a miss treating our animal well sound silly on say britain but that's what tonight americans would say i mean it's a fascinating challenge i'm wondering as you and the and the jane goodall institute have worked around the world i just be interested you know i look at these moments a show and tell opportunities are there moments in your institution's work that you've been able to turn this around that we can talk about say here is a positive way that we've been able to change the way gravity worked around preservation mutual respect for species sustainable environmental practices you know i would love to see those stories told more often i'm just not as aware of them as i should but what are some of those that are top of mind for you. ok well

you know one of them is that when i 1st went to africa in 1060 coming i shall park while we still study the chimpanzee in this part of that equitorial forest belt stretch right across equitorial africa and by 990 gandhi was a small island forest surrounded by totally bad. and ugly more people living now in the land could support too poor to buy food elsewhere and it was very clean if we can help these people find ways of making a living without destroying the environment we can't save chimps forests or anything else so we began our program called take care of karri and my working with the people by. working in such a way that they came to trust us by developing a very holistic program which included microcredit opportunities for women scholarships to keep girls in school with

a management project and everything else if you fly over gandhi today you will not see the bang hills anymore so when you were with the local communities when you help them understand that saving the environment is the future not just wildlife then you get partners in conservation and this program is now in 6 other african countries so that's one piece of really good news they are ready to scale it. and listen in our program the youth roots and shoots are we seeing change in young people or in refugee camps. begin to understand animals on just think and that's not the way they were brought up the culture doesn't tell them so i have seen a lot of change and actually i always say the media is at fault because they just concentrate on the doom and gloom which is important but please give space to

ollie's wonderful things amazing people to refute projects which are so hopeful that are happening all around new ways of. new ways of treating animals pushing for social justice trying to get rid of discrimination all of these think they helped any but rio has much less destruction that went to see him go i'd like to talk about positive things but i also you know want to recognize things that are going so well but i know you started a new line of pod cast dr goodall and i think they're called hope casts. as well and just at the i think you just start of the beginning of the year. and i guess you know i are you are hopeful right you are hopeful i mean you're not despite all of these things we just talked about a my sense is you are hopeful. well i'm hopeful if i mean it's not it's not just

it's we we have a window of time pretty sure and i'm not the only scientist to say that but we can only succeed in turning things around if we can't together not that's why i was traveling 300 daisy air around talking about leasing this is why since i've been grounded here in iran i grew up but we created a virtual jane and this hope is part of that i've reached millions more people sitting here. around the world in many more countries than if i was traveling but it's so exhausting i mean it's nonstop doing things like this gazing at this will specks of camera on the top of your laptop and i miss reaching people i miss having fun evenings with my friends but it's reaching many more people so i go on doing it

don't i and no choice many were very grateful for that and i guess my question to you because you know these people they many donate to your programs and support you they want to spend time with you and be in your company but do they are they doing enough i mean i mention the world economic forum before their meeting this week and i just want to raise up ok what have you done since last year folks have you really move the needle in a credible way or is this a kind of vanity island where where the rich and powerful get together i just like to get your sense of what you think has happened in terms of the time you've talked to to that crowd and whether they've begun to move the needle in ways that you think matter for the planet earth. i think some of them definitely have i think more people are donating putting some of the allied. into programs that will help to save the planet to turn things around i know that the regional economic forum itself has pushed a whole new emphasis on the environment which wasn't bad before. and so you know

these are hopeful signs but we need to really need more it's not quite enough but on the other hand leadership from some of the really really wealthy people is perhaps encouraging other people to donate more premal to saving the planet for the future i mean you know these people are mature and branches. and they do care and when you sort of look at them and you try and tell stories to reach the heart you can see a change you see the ice change. are important and that's why. maybe i can do it a little bit on a screen like this but it's not the same as when you're that with somebody and you know i've always said we can only reach our true human potential when head and heart work in harmony too many people separate those 2. i couldn't

agree with you more on that but on the part of the head side you know i had this crazy idea once i wanted to create a global map and different parts of the world or different countries i wanted to give a rating on whether galileo would be found guilty or not you know to go back to the galileo trial and i sort of fell in the united states in the last 4 years that even though technology as you mention has has you know accelerated and we have so many incredible opportunities on so many fronts that i sort of felt galileo probably wouldn't get off you know in america now i'm beginning to feel it's a little bit different but i'm just interested in the state of science in the world and the respect for science if you go to developing countries i often find a greater respect for science for doctors for research than i do in the developed part of the world do you find that. i think. i found some countries developing countries have little regard for science i

think it depends on on a government that's impala and you know to some of these more to plastic uplands if they don't like science they don't believe in it same sort of attitude not the trumpet ministration. and i've seen not going through so i think in just about every country those people who truly truly respect science and are encouraged by what it can do and then there are other people who are trying it inconvenient i mean like al gore was inconvenient truth it's much better not to believe. in climate change if you want to carry on making emissions but don't believe in it and it was. and slight working with animals most scientists not really that animals a century and they have been martians the pure pain but if you will in

a business that is treating animals in a very cruel horrible writing it's much more convenient to consider that you know just things isn't it. i think you're absolutely right i think one of the other things that i don't know if you've discussed much but i imagine it has come up as you started so early as this pioneering anthropologist extraordinary relationship that we've all seen and grown up with you're a model for many other women and people but also women going into science i'm just interested i don't know the answer to this have have you seen you know we talk about gender and gender equity and science have you found that your role and model have ever out of both men and as many women into the field the science that you've been part of. well i think more women certainly have come in but you know i think i think there's

a reason why when going into sons it wasn't just sexual discrimination gender discrimination but when when i 1st went to cambridge university and being with the chimps to be honest i had never been to college the congress goes to do a ph. and i was taught that difference between humans and animals was one kind and it really only beings at personality mind and emotion but it was also taught that to be a good scientist you have to be coach any objective you should not have and being with your son. and of course i knew that was wrong and this tour i might do and i mean if you have empathy that leads you will find that aha moment means and many contest but i think that what i did sort of stuff around the idea of science to many young lives and i think perhaps there is a kind of inborn gentleness in women because that then role in evolution has been

to raise families patience more tolerance perhaps and although. it's that culture changes that in women maybe it is something in. that girls preaching to. do you. have you been able to see or be with your chimpanzee family. friends i shouldn't call them family but your acquaintances. during this crisis where have you had to be distant from them as well beyond being here we are literally and it's not being branded him and. so you're traveling the world view that via the net like we all are i just i saw some very beautiful pictures of chimpanzees that have been rescued one that came

over and i probably have the time stamp on it that came to hug you and caress you and help hold you as one of the most moving things but it looked as if it were recent so we're probably probably off on that but maybe but maybe that happened you know just before the covert crisis happened. it you know the strange thing that that was ruined and. she came and i mean that's an area and executive director of the sanctuary say tonight i now turn that day the day she was released on to this island and met up before i was on the boat trip and i was trying to comfort her she must be married what's happening to me now. and yet it was me that she came and in priest if you remember that for teenage she climbs out of a crate she chimes on the top of it she looks around and then she does it double

take and comes back an immigrant's is me it was that most moving thing that ever happened to me and. i said how dish how does that chimp know that this lady is responsible for it to her she. is an extraordinary moment and i encourage everyone to see it i hope we can put a little connection to that let me just ask you just as we get to the close here you you said 2 things that our greatest danger is apathy. but you've also said that there are many ways to move in the right direction and i just like our viewers and listeners from all over the world to hear from you what are some of the ways jane goodall thinks that we can move in the right direction and avoid apathy. well i think apathy comes when you lose hope and when you lose hope you do nothing and that's the danger and some people feel helpless and hopeless and i always say to them but you know find ok you can change that well and can change the blunt single

handed but when you live is this something you could do could you raise money for the homeless could you volunteer in a soup kitchen could you pick up trash could you write letters to try and save a local environment like i would do or a forest or something like that if you get involved and you get involved in other people such as yes i do make a difference and then initiate do more and i think that people need to understand that every single day really we make some impact on the planet and we have a choice as to what kind of impact we make where do we buy really has it come from did it harm the environment was it cruel to animals is it cheap because of child slave labor made the ethical choice when millions and then billions of people make

those ethical choices but that'll never happen in big enough numbers until we leave pretty because when you're really poor you just do what you have to do to live cut down the trees because you're desperate to get land to grow more food to feed your family buy the cheapest junk food you can don school those ethical questions because you got to stammer. well dr jane goodall someone who makes me hope that i hope that we begin to move in the right direction thank you so much for joining us today. thank you too thank you for inviting me. so what's the bottom line listening to the wisdom of people like jane goodall helps us to get out of our narrow boxes and remember how much we're part of the natural world and how much our existence depends on the survival of other species zoonotic diseases like over $1000.00 in a bowl and one h. one z. keeper mankind's intrusion into the habitat of animals we can rip up and wound the

earth but it's going to bite back so maybe the silver lining in this covert story is that it chasen's us dr goodall talks about hope so my hope is that her work will inspire us all the action to have a greater respect for nature and give the environment a much higher priority and that's the bottom line. india beauty 3000000 people have been excluded from the least of see just. what i want to east meets the family's life to live a long. drawn out 0. in colombia in the mid ninety's coca fields covered homes stretches of land far from the cities which were now on the high civilians the end of the ninety's people were talking about the potential for preserving a knocker stick with the guerrillas to. drug traffickers sought refuge in the

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