once you deserved the highlights back to football the teams are not just battling to become champions of south america the winner will also qualify to play in the club world cup which begins in doha next week meineke an i.q. of al-jazeera rio de janeiro. there with al-jazeera these are top stories the world health organization is warning against hoarding coronavirus vaccine supplies it follows the e.u. has moved to impose export controls on vaccines manufactured in the block the controls will affect any 100 countries if we hold vaccines and if we are not sharing that will be sorry major problems one isolated it will be a catastrophe more than failure and 2 it keeps

the pandemic burning and 3 very slow economic global economic recovery so it's morally wrong in terms of our resting the pandemic it would tell and it wouldn't also bring livelihood spec is that what we want. algeria has just begun its vaccination drive using doses of russia's sputnik vaccine the initial jumps were issues and the town of leader where its 1st cases were detected in march governments also trying to secure deliveries of the astra zeneca vaccine only 4 other african nations have begun their inoculation campaigns health officials in senegal say cave in 1000 variants are fueling a surge in infections there as health system is overwhelmed and medical students are being mobilized to make up for a shortage of doctors. mammals military says it will abide by the country's constitution amid concerns the armed forces might attempt to coop the governing

m.l.d. party has called on the military to accept the results of november's election portugal's parliament has passed a law to legalize doctor assisted suicide but it is subject to strict regulations only people who are above the age of 18 who are terminally ill and suffering from lasting unbearable pain will be able to request assistance if it's signed off by the president the nation will become just the 7th country in the world to legalize ethan asia at least 8 afghan security force personnel have been killed in a car bomb attack that happened in the northeastern province of nangarhar the taliban's claimed responsibility reportedly targeted a nearby military base those are your headlines the news continues here on al-jazeera after the bottom line.

hi i'm steve clements and i have a question will the pandemic lead us to rethink our relationship with nature let's get to the bottom line. today we take a step back from the usual ups and downs of american politics to talk about something much wider and crucial to our future the planet that we live on for tens of thousands of years humans and that means you me our ancestors have been manipulating the environment for economic gain it's just what we do we move mountains that shouldn't be moved cut down trees over fish eradicate diverse species from the face of the earth the world economy is not designed to promote environmental sustainability at least not yet in fact it's the exact opposite it's built for endless consumption of resources the question today is whether in the middle of this horrible pandemic can we push reset can we get back to normal in

a way that restores balance with the natural world and we're talking to one of the most influential advocates for the health of the planet jane goodall has been a leading voice for conservation and protection of wildlife for decades ever since she spent decades studying chimpanzees in the wild and opened our eyes to broader questions in the scientific world in many ways she has become the ever present responsible force of our conscience without which we could even be more destructive dr goodall it's very good to be with you today to talk about these important issues and i'm going to start where we last met which was in devil switzerland at the world economic forum where i saw you blow away a lot of the rich and powerful in the world but today the world economic forum started this week online and then 2 in yoga terrace the secretary general made the statement we are waging war on our night shouldn't destroying our life support system and they should be striking back. i'd like to get your car it's about that because he's both warning you know the rich and powerful that the world is descending into chaos and telling them they better get on it do you agree with him

is there more to the story that we should be discussing well i said i said yes and greet with him don't you know i've been saying for ages and i probably said it to you before but we compared to our closest living relatives the chimpanzees the biggest difference is explosive development of intellect and there's no question i mean chimps are highly intelligent on animals and to me i mean i think we designed a rocket that went to mas and a robot that took photos mas and it's amazing what we have being able to do isn't it bizarre that this most intellectual creature is destroying handsomely we don't want to go live on we've seen what it looks like i mean i don't want to live now i'm sure you do. and so we've only got this one beautiful planet and we are in the process of destroying it is no question but if intellect is

as amazing as i think it is then we do have the ability if if if we get together around the want without wasting time and try to heal some of the harm and at least slow down time and change which by the way is a much more existential threat to our future and the future of life on earth than this pandemic horrible no this endemic is. but i know the world does not revolve around the united states but we do have a new president and one of the 4 pillars that he has put out there that he says he wants to embed in all of his policy actions is is action on climate change and you've just mentioned that are you boyd up are you hopeful by what you've seen from from president biden so far do you think this is an inflection point for american leadership on these issues in a way that matters or you know i think we've always you know heard things but now we have this line you know will way of walk the walk what is your sense of. what my

sense is he's already will it won't peace already committed to rejoining the paris climate agreement and you know i think i think well i feel and i know hundreds of american friends of mine that we have a new possibility in the united states which after all is the most economically powerful still and all it is evident will restrict sions on protecting the environment that the trumpet ministration put into place by the has committed to to change and he's already trying to become. i understand i'm very hopeful when dr goodall i have spent hours many many hours upon hours watching. as much as we've been able to see your relationship with chimpanzees and i guess i want to ask in a non facetious way in a serious way i mean if they were in charge of this planet what could we learn from

them about how they deal with their environment how i mean what would you say are the biggest lessons we could draw from the primates you've spent so much time connecting with. well you know this is really a question that isn't going to really help us very much because the way chimpanzees are not they're not overpopulating they aren't arment the way we are then not using complex technology innovations but they would if they could and you know in the old days if you go into some of the people who are still living out in the forest they are not harming that environment but they can they wouldn't recruit and i think from the industrial revolution when food began to be more plentiful we started a population began growing and that was the beginning of the rot. i think that's

a very fair answer i've thought about it but i mean there is a there is a beauty out there know one of the things that i've been thinking about all of us mean very smart animal smart folks with our environment being able to manipulate as i mentioned in the introduction raise of this question we know we have a pandemic and we have a virus that literally has in a way hunting us down to some degree you know we have the ability i think potentially to survive it but that victimhood that knit notion one of a zoo or an arctic virus passed from animals to humans and passed from animals to other animals in whether or not our you think there's a there's a chastening and that a moment where we have to be humble and look at the fact that there are there are elements of what we're doing that are quite dangerous that we need to change course and i absolutely do think it i mean this pandemic has disrupted economies around the world it's led to death it's led to suffering as lead to loss of jobs and we

now know that this is because we have so disrespected animals and the natural amount we create the conditions where these pathogens can jump from animals to people and it's being predicted by those studying zoonotic diseases for a long time and you know the next one could be worse if bona had a very high rate get to interaction and this condom it doesn't but supposing the next one. kill so many more people like it would if it was it going or if the bone was in as in texas this code and so we really do need to rethink our relationship with the natural one of which we are pot and on which we depend and our relationship with the animals with whom we should share this plant. do you have thoughts on this time on covert in what what kind of red warning lights

are going off that were you. well that one in light of simply that as i say we disrespect animals we're treating them in ways that i mean you know the golden rule of every single major religion around the world is do to others as he would have them do to you and animals a sentient being to not just think and way treating them as though that commodities and this if you care about animals the way i do if you understand the sentience then this is it's a black mark against our humanity actually and we really do need to change that now is mahatma gandhi who sent you can tell me something about the nation by the way it treats its animals we're not treating animals. correctly and it's not just the wildlife in the bush meat markets in the wildlife markets in asia and the

trafficking it's also our factory farms. all over the want a miss treating our animal well and want sound silly on say britain but that's what tonight americans would say i mean it's a fascinating challenge i'm wondering as you and the and the jane goodall institute have worked around the world i just be interested you know i look at these moments a show and tell opportunities are there moments in your institution's work that you've been able to turn this around that we can talk about say here is a positive way that we've been able to change the way gravity worked around preservation mutual respect for species sustainable environmental practices you know i would love to see those stories told more often i'm just not as aware of them as i should but what are some of those that are top of mind for you. ok well you know one of them is that when i 1st went to africa in 1060 coming i shall park

while we still study the chimpanzees in this part of that equitorial forest belt stretch right across equitorial africa and by 990 gandhi was a small island forest surrounded by totally bad. and more people living now than the land could support too poor to buy food elsewhere and it was very clean if we can help these people find ways of making a living without destroying the environment we can't save chimps forests or anything else so we began our program called take care of karri and my working with the people by. working in such a way that they came to trust us by developing a very holistic program which included microcredit opportunities for women scholarships to keep girls in school with a management project and everything else if you fly over gandhi today you will

not see the bank hills anymore so when you were with the local communities when you help them understand that saving the environment is the future not just wildlife then you get partners in conservation and this program is now in 6 other african countries so that's one piece of really good news they are ready to scale it. and listen in our program the youth roots and shoots. we've seen change in young people or in refugee camps. begin to understand animals on just think and that's not the way they were brought up the culture doesn't tell them so i have seen a lot of change and actually i always say the media is at fault because they just concentrate on the doom and gloom which is important but please give space to

ollie's wonderful things amazing people to refute projects which are so hopeful that are happening all around new ways and. new ways of treating animals pushing for social justice trying to get rid of discrimination all of these think they help any but rio 2 who has much as will the destruction seem good i like to talk about positive things but i also you know want to recognize things that aren't going so well but i know you're starting a new line of pod cast dr goodall and i think they're called hope casts. as well and just at the i think you just start of the beginning of the year. and i guess you know i are you are hopeful right you are hopeful i mean you're not despite all of these things we just talked about my sense is you are hopeful. well i'm hopeful if i mean it's not it's not just it's we we have

a window of time pretty sure and i'm not the only scientist to say that but we can only succeed in turning things around if we can't together not that's why i was traveling 300 daisy air around talking about leasing this is why since i've been grounded here in iran i grew up but we created a virtual chain and this hope is part of i've reached millions more people sitting here. around the world in many more countries than if i was traveling but it's so exhausting i mean it's nonstop doing things like this gazing at this will specks of camera on the top of your laptop and i miss reaching people i miss having fun evenings with my friends but it's reaching many more people so i go on doing it don't i and no choice many were very grateful for that and i guess my question to

you because you know these people they many donate to your programs and support you they want to spend time with you and be in your company but do they are they doing enough i mean i mention the world economic forum before their meeting this week and i just want to raise up ok what have you done since last year folks have you really move the needle in a credible way or is this a kind of vanity island where the where the rich and powerful get together i just like to get your sense of what you think has happened in terms of the time you've talked to to that crowd and whether they've begun to move the needle in ways that you think matter for the planet earth. i think some of them definitely have i think more people are donating putting some of the allied. into programs that will help to save the planet to turn things around i know that the world economic. forum itself has pushed a whole new emphasis on the environment which wasn't bad before. and so you know

these are hopeful signs but we need to really need more it's not quite enough but on the other hand leadership from some of the really really wealthy people is perhaps encouraging other people to donate more premal to saving the planet for the future i mean you know these people are mature and branches. and they do care and when you sort of look at them and you try and tell stories to reach the heart you can see a change you see the ice change. are important and that's why. maybe i can do it a little bit on a screen like this but it's not the same as when you're that with somebody and you know i've always said we can only reach our true human potential when head and heart work in harmony too many people separate those 2. i couldn't agree with you more on that but on the part of the head side you know i had this

crazy idea once i wanted to create a global map and different parts of the world or different countries i wanted to give a rating on whether galileo would be found guilty or not you know to go back to the galileo trial and i sort of fell in the united states in the last 4 years that even though technology as you mention has has you know accelerated and we have so many incredible opportunities on so many fronts that i sort of felt galileo probably wouldn't get off you know in america now i'm beginning to feel it's a little bit different but i'm just interested in the state of science in the world and the respect for science if you go to developing countries i often find a greater respect for science for doctors for research than i do in the developed part of the world do you find that. i think. i found some countries developing countries have little regard for science i think it depends on on

a government that's impala and you know to some of these more to plastic uplands if they don't like science they don't believe in it same sort of attitude that the trumpet ministration. and i've seen not going through so i think in just about every country those people who truly truly respect science and are encouraged by what it can do and then there are other people who are trying it inconvenient i mean like al gore was inconvenient truth it's much better not to believe. in climate change if you want to carry on making emissions but don't believe it and it was. and slight working with animals most scientists. really that animals a century and they have been martians the pure penny but if you will in a business that is treating animals in

a very cruel horrible writing it's much more convenient to consider that you know just things isn't it. i think you're absolutely right i think one of the other things that i don't know if you've discussed much but i imagine it has come up as you started so early as this pioneering anthropologist extraordinary relationship that we've all seen and grown up with you're a model for many other women and people but also women going into science i'm just interested i don't know the answer to this have have you seen you know we talk about gender and gender equity and science have you found your role in model have ever out of both men and as many women into the field the science that you've been part of. well i think more women certainly have come in but you know i think i think there's a reason why when going into sons it wasn't just sexual discrimination gender

discrimination but when when i 1st went to cambridge university and being with the chimps to be honest i had never been to college the congress goes to do a ph. and i was taught that difference between humans and animals was one kind and it really only beings that personality mind and emotion but it was also true that to be a good scientist you had to be coached any objective you should not have and being with your son. and of course i knew that was wrong and this tour i might do and i mean if you have empathy that leaves you will kinds of aha moments means and many contest but i think that what i did sort of. the idea of science to many young lives and i think perhaps there is a kind of in. gentleness and women because then that role in evolution has been

to raise families patients more tolerant perhaps and although. it's that culture changes that in women maybe it is something in. that girls preaching to. you. have you been able to see or be with your chimpanzee family. friends i shouldn't call them family but your acquaintances. during this crisis or have you had to be distant from them as well beyond being here we are literally aunts moment i've been branded him and. so you're traveling the world view that via the net like we all are i just i saw some very beautiful pictures of chimpanzees that have been rescued one that came over and i probably have the time stamp on it that came to hug you and caress you

and help hold you as one of the most moving things but it looked as if it were recent so we're probably probably off on that but maybe but maybe that happened you know just before the covert crisis happened. it you know the strange thing that that was wounded and. she came and i mean that's an area and executive direction sanctuary say tonight i now turn that day the day she was released on to this island and met up before i was on the boat trip and i was trying to comfort her she must be married what's happening to me now. and yet it was neat that she came and embrace that if you remember that for teenage she climbs out in a crate she chimes on the top of it she looks around and then she does it double take and comes back an immigrant says me it was that most moving thing that ever

happened to me and. i said how dish how does that ship now that this lady is responsible for it to her she. is an extraordinary moment and i encourage everyone to see it i hope we can put a little connection to that let me just ask you just as we get to the close here you you said 2 things that our greatest danger is apathy. but you've also said that there are many ways to move in the right direction and i just like our viewers and listeners from all over the world to hear from you what are some of the ways jane goodall thinks that we can move in the right direction and avoid apathy. well i think apathy comes when you lose hope and when you lose hope you do nothing and that's the danger and some people feel helpless and hopeless and i always say to them but you know find ok you can change that well and can change the blunt single handed but when you live is this something you could do could you raise money for

the homeless could you volunteer in a soup kitchen could you pick up trash could you write letters to try and save a local environment like i would do or a forest or something like that if you get involved and you get involved in other people such as yes i do make a difference and the energy to do more and i think that people need to understand that every single day really we make some impact on the planet and we have a choice as to what kind of impact we make where do we buy which is it come from did it harm the environment was it cruel to animals is it cheap because of child slave labor made the ethical choice when millions and then billions of people make those ethical choices but that'll never happen in big enough numbers until

we leave he ain't pretty because when you are really poor you just do what you have to do to live cut down the trees because you're desperate to get land to grow more food to feed your family by the cheapest junk food you can dance school those ethical questions because you got to stammer. well dr jane goodall someone who makes me hope that i hope that we begin to move in the right direction thank you so much for joining us today. thank you too thank you for inviting me. so what's the bottom line listening to the wisdom of people like jane goodall helps us to get out of our narrow boxes and remember how much we're part of the natural world and how much our existence depends on the survival of other species zoonotic diseases like over $1000.00 in a bowl and one h. one z. keeper mankind's intrusion into the habitat of animals we can rip up and wound the earth but it's going to bite back so maybe the silver lining in this covert story

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