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a book about his life followed and a film is in the making queen elizabeth came out of lockdown to give him a knighthood and he entered the guinness book of world records captain tom said in india and burma during the 2nd world war he likened the fight against covert to a battle with doctors and nurses on the front line the prime minister paid tribute to him when news broke he was in hospital for i can say this captain tom moore has been an inspiration to everybody in this country during this pandemic and i think our thoughts and our prayers are now with him and with his family. despite being prioritised the vaccination he developed pneumonia before he could be protected against the virus an emblem of hope during the pandemic will be mourned by a nation. this is around $20.00 these are the top stories a moscow court has just sentenced the russian opposition leader alexina barney to 3
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and a half years in jail because of a parole violation violation in the valley was arrested on his return from germany in january where he was recovering from poisoning russian police detained more than 350 of his supporters who showed up outside the courtroom. mean mars leader aung sun suu cine is being moved to house arrest she was detained by the military alongside dozens of senior politicians on monday as an undisclosed location the u.n. security council is holding a closed door meeting to discuss the crisis diplomatic editor james bays has more now from the united nations on the cheeze detention. we understand that she is being confined at home she is under house arrest that information given to the security council during this closed meeting where security council ambassadors will now decide their next move in front of them is a draft statement drawn up by the u.k.
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which is the current president of the security council it assumed the presidency just in the last 24 hours on the 1st day of the month now that statement calls for all of those that have been detained to be released and calls for the country to go back to a path of democracy us democrats have submitted the briefing outlining the impeachment charges against the former us president donald trump mr trump legal teams there is insufficient evidence to prove he was behind the capitol riots on january the 6th. in the middle of the u.k.'s 1st coronavirus law he raised hopes and millions of dollars for the u.k.'s national health service now world war 2 captain captain tom moore a veteran of world war 2 has passed away you can try to cope at 19 mr moore was $98.00 after walking $100.00 laps around his garden before his 100th birthday raising more than $45000000.00 queen elizabeth came out of. to give him his knighthood in the shadow of windsor castle more news in 30 minutes she's.
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condemnation by world leaders and a growing calls for action military leaders may have seized full control of me about what they're facing mounting pressure on the back so what kind of the international community to restore democracy in the south east and this is inside school. hello welcome to the program. it's an criticized as unacceptable the serious blow
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to democracy by the un world leaders have been swift in condemning me and myles coup the international community is demanding democracy be restored and it's calling for the release of the de facto leader and all the senior figures who've been detained by the military they also did policy the national league of democracy once its landslide victory in elections last november recognize. power is now in the hands of gentlemen unlink has appointed his own cabinet the coup leaders say the takeover is temporary and of promised elections of the year but that hasn't stopped threats of sanctions particularly by the u.s. and the u.n. security council has called for an emergency meeting on the situation on tuesday primary concern is the people of myanmar who are obviously in a state of shock there they're very afraid of what's going on what the what may go on and this is absolutely outrageous unacceptable action by by the military the people of myanmar need to know that we are with them we stand with them and we will
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act for them and with them to address this this this catastrophe they are not alone there should be strong responses from all countries and then secondly there needs to be put on the table a series of specific actions that can and should be taken and then we have to move as as strongly as we can to see that the international community takes those actions is it going to be a challenge yes is it going to be easy no u.s. president joe biden has threatened to reimpose sanctions on myanmar that was formerly known as burma and a statement he said the international community should come together and one voice to press the burmese military to immediately relinquish the power of seized release the activists and officials that detained the united states removed sanctions on burma of the past decade based on progress toward democracy the reversal of that progress will necessitate an immediate review of our sanction laws and or thorazine followed by appropriate action. well have a look at other countries reactions the european council president charles michel
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has condemned the military seizure of power and called for the release of those arrested british prime minister abbas johnson also criticize the coup saying the vote of the people must be respected and civilian leaders released china only said it notices the events and called on all sides to respect the constitution and thailand's deputy prime minister who has close ties with the military describe the coup as a domestic issue in india prime minister narendra modi an ally of ours on some cheese that his country was steadfast in supporting me in miles democratic transition. let's bring in our guests in london we have michael shani a professor and chair of asian and military history so as university of london and author of a history of modern burma in illinois is. a mean man historian and associate professor at the center for asian studies at northern illinois university in
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washington d.c. paul dano it's is me and mark campaign leader and global witness they've welcome to you all thanks for joining us here on inside story about to begin with you if i can the west is roundly. condemned the coup u.s. president biden is threatening to impose sanctions but how much leverage does the u.s. really have when it comes to be a man and to the generals who are now in power. this is the only day 2 off the coup so the leverage as the highest at the very beginning and so i want to say that you know the international. powers stay have allowed at the very beginning because the suggestion is very confusing the military all the time and all it's also stench to tote is confuse and diskin and so that's why they have to convince the international that they are acting according to the constitutions and
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they were hand over the power in one year but history again and again show asked that they never are honored now what's so i think at the very beginning tonight in the literature is that hires what goes on the what's your take do you think that biden has ever dry and now i mean is that his 1st big international challenges and his 1st big foreign policy challenge how do you think he's likely to respond given china's cozy relationship with me and ma and also given all of joe biden's talk about leaning on america's allies but i think that the u.s. does have some leverage. to make it clear the u.s. doesn't have the unilateral leverage it once had in p.r.c. where pressure u.s. boots on we were directly the pierson's compensated number doesn't leave the u.s. so much where the u.s. does have leverage have leverage is in other arsenal purse where you're actually going to have been possibly have some stepping back by the military is whatever
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pressure the u.s. can put on its allies and oziel and to put pressure there or sation on the un member will talk a little bit later about the role of us ian i'd like to bring you in paul dano it's what about the the european union e.u. parliament president david society says europeans are united in condemning the coup but beyond words of condemnation what can or should the european union be doing. thanks for having me so that the e.u. should be moving quickly to reimpose targeted sanctions on the military and make clear that if they don't return power to the civilian government that will move forward those actions but i think it is important that the u.s. moves forward in concert with their their partners in the e.u. the u.k. and as professor said also. because the u.s. does have limited leverage economically there's limited u.s. businesses in myanmar but there is power in concerted action i think that's where the u.s.
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needs to focus in addition to targeting the military economic interests as you said this and this is only day 2 of the coup from what we've seen so far. how the generals are acting how likely is it do you think that they are really going to listen to these international calls for a return to democracy or the kind of democracy that the country had before this. well it will be a combination of the inside of democratic forces pressure and in tennis you mention a pressure international pressure never works on its own alone because you know as mike and paul already states stated their conflict of interests among us in egypt and as us so i would say the biggest pressure will come domestically people are already rally today right at the doctor's from mandalay started so that disobedience movement they're not going to go to work and you know the different
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ministry different departments different government office as well quite similar precious so this and that i would like to emphasize here that you know we talk about the end all day you know taken power by the military but this is not the end of the onus on their different parties that's what i know do you want the landslide we have to keep in mind that this is or saw a cracked it election even though the government the military declared that this is and fair that's why this change that coup that all different democratic forces not just the end all say but to kill only democratic forces that was sidelined since 2011 they are come rally behind this and t. military anti could movement so this is not just an old devera says military alone on anymore this is will be all the democratic forces now united against
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a coup so the democrat to muster fuzziness will be the power with the highest so that a combination of these and turn out an extra on a precious could work marcos tell me if we look broadly at the impact this will have on the whole region when there are ethnic conflicts on the borders with china bangladesh how might what we're seeing now destabilize the region and will that spur regional powers to act what are the calculations that will be happening regionally no. oh right now this is this is going to be bad for the peace process dealing with the ethnic minorities tonight i think what foreign pit mentioned about the military having lived in the past the idea that the military has returned the country to exactly the same kind of leadership that happy for the previous episodes of military rule means that they can expect less concessions fewer concessions and and more more russian from the government in the years ahead so this will be very destabilizing for at the minorities it means really won't move very far with the
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repent ratio of rain right resolutions that problem i don't think there is a issue with regional powers are reacting because within asia japan is japan is trying to outmaneuver china they are going to take the side against the military china's not going to take sides against military thailand's going to support the military and bangladesh can't really do much it's been trying to do things but it doesn't have any kind of it can't force the issue so i don't expect you'll have a lot of regional change i think it'll make the situation in myanmar more worse in terms of a giraffe a government relations talking there about ethnic minorities the treatment of ethnic minorities paul dano it's well consents do you have about the erosion on human rights of freedom of speech of protecting potential ethnic violence in the country now that the mediterranean is fully in paul and says it will be for the next year. yeah gravely concerned. the conflict will
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increase. there is concern that the military will take control of communication channels a they already did that right after the that coup cutting off communication mobile networks in in a bid on outside of yangon so there's concern that the military will really crackdown that the armed groups will will resist that and the military will try to make advances so there's real concern that this is going to lead to more violence and more human rights abuses and really stoke ethnic conflict there pete than when we talk about geopolitics and the reverberations of this coup we obviously cannot leave out china i mean miles neighbor it has invested billions of dollars it be in ma how do you see china responding as international calls for the release of aung san suu kyi and for the rest of restoration of democracy is those calls grow louder . i know as much interest as the the rest of the wool china actually is the
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1st country to visit right off that you mention so in january china chinese foreign minister are came to talk to us in sudan you know mine so and actually the relationship between the nazi government and china has been wont so china has as much interest as a resume to restore democracy so this that this we cannot you know isolate and say that they could do you trade the that the process if it is in the un security council they could walk behind the toss all the advantage of china as they could talk to the armed forces they need minority forces as well so china has a a rather quite a lot of leverage inside the country ok michael shaadi do you agree with that is china as interested as the rest of the world in the restoration of democracy or what is china's relationship with the military being like in myanmar. china has an
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interest in burma being stable and that depends on how they calculate the relationships between different groups i would probably would say that probably therapies right they they would be better off if there was if if there was a return of they and all the government so they would they would have an investor that on the other hand china has a more cautious approach to a state or so it will be less aggressive less pushy that the united states might be . there already pursue the case they were involved negotiations between the l.t. and the military for a couple days before this before the the if that happened on monday morning so the a china is interested the concern it won't push too hard but it should be on the side of restoring the status quo paul dano it's what's your take on the role of china here. agree with both of our guests the of the guests that china has a big role to play they 'd have a very complex and historical economic relationship with men where they have
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a lot invested in myanmar as part of their belt and road initiative and i think it's actually a bigger risk for china to side with the military here there's already a lot of anti china sentiment in myanmar among civil society and community is at large and if they're seen as taking the side of the military i think it's going to make the road initiative much more challenging if there is a return to democracy in the future ok we touched on earlier i want to talk about the rigging. has sheltered 1000000 refugees have fled violence in me and what is this going to mean for a petri ation if it and those who are still in myanmar at a heightened risk now oh i think. i would like to say that you know the code is the violence that minorities like rule him to chantelle ran rakhine state is also out of the cities or this of violence reached these cities through
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crude oil in the name of quote so they knew all the minorities have seen espinoza's violence you know since the start cause i civilian government came to power in 2011 so i want to emphasize that while we talk about restoring democracy we also talk about the very mechanism that is safeguarded this democracy that is the 2008 constitution so that democratic infrastructures have been now built on the quagmire and lest we address that very issue actually where international community rallied to be fight and as we address that 2008 constitution and as we can abolish it you know the minority minorities you know will be staying in danger are threatened and you know now they've built this city and the countryside the. time and the minorities are the same and that's because the same constitution. the power of a minute that is what we have to recognize mr sonnie what might this mean for the international
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press to prosecute a whole to a kill me a minute training for the atrocities committed against the right. but i think we can all it all agree that the military in the constitution is the problem we disagree on on sense of cheese general d. and that all these culpability in defending what happened with the renga and that but what i think we might also agree on is that that whole issue it has hurt on sun city's credibility whether they agree with her or not that it is hurt her. reputation is international human rights icon it has hurt her reputation regarding her support of democracy so i think it will be there there will be. the you can build a national coalition but it won't be quite as strong as it might have been in the night she ninety's and early 2000 speech for the station government because of the reggae ship although it's beyond economic sanctions what else could the
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international community be doing i mean what. would that make a difference. yeah global arms embargo would be a good good 1st step. and the u.n. security council as you know it is is meeting today to discuss myanmar under the u.k. chairmanship so we are definitely supporting an arms embargo i think there are other things that the international community can do i think one is speaking in one voice to say that this is not acceptable that the military needs to release the political the political detainees needs to restore the parliament and needs to reinstate the rule of law and otherwise i think that there are there are things that the international can do in terms of the business community in terms of social media ensuring that for example facebook does not allow the military to use its platform to promote its itself and its activities there have been calls for that as well
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that it's and just following on from that according to the world bank singapore was the largest direct foreign investor and me in my last year hong kong was 2nd so how might the coup impact direct foreign investment in me in ma and who stands to lose the most. just like always saying there are 2 things right the same all cock sanctions but no technology has a very quick repercussions against the military so i think it is one thing that international community can pressure right away because. after 2017 the crisis in europe the facebook and a lot of military accounts and they have to migrate to russian servers right so you know that also a lot of people are inside a warrant that note that this information campaign war started by the military right to instigate milans and also to crush you know the now the margin
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disobedience movement so this this is the very quick action the international community to take the sanctions are very limited consider the effects shots before me i can stay i can not stay open bank account you know at a nearby city in the us you know our because our mind citizenship status there actually stay in effect they are not. lifted so and that sense that it would be there would be a limit to. you know consequence. michael. the u.n. special repertory meanwhile was actually on this program yesterday saying that the military needs to hear the international community will not sit idly by and let this happen but what can it do the decay in the context of the un security council i mean will china and russia just look to shield the generals of me and not. i
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don't think that you'll see action from the security council the russian and and the peer simply cut a will veto any and the clock to that will translate to action there the only thing i think that the biggest leverage the biggest thing the international community can do is do things like freeze the bank accounts of generals and their families put pressure on companies when they do but countries really do banking targeted sanctions against individuals these kinds of things work because the underlying rules of this game is that a minimum line want to secure the his own like his own economic future other generals want to secure the futures of their families are heavily involved in the commie china has a lot of investment in the stew because it wants one built on roads much earlier to to work so that whatever you can do to influence the directly hit the leaders directly hit the policymakers their families this kind of thing that's going to have the biggest effect there but then what if they association of southeast asian nations are likely to do what other regional cock elations.
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r.c.m. not have been saying that this is the entire offense right and we have to remember that time is sell her the coup in 2014 and biden administration sat you know they shared their interest into pacific so they offered to cooperate so you know as time goes on that the violence the coup has been normalised rice and that's what i'm war it is what the international community do and be in the immediate aftermath of the could is making sure that you know the. civil movements will not be crushed i'm real large that now there will be real blood on the streets because the details have been circulated now in front of my mom's house you know in mentally everywhere this is the real physical threat to every citizen is facing right now paul dano it's the military's power even as the country was apparently moving toward
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democracy it's been on display for a very long time. and its power was enshrined in the 2008 constitution crafted by the military which provided a legal channel didn't it for the military to reimpose direct military role so is it fair for all of this outrage to be happening now from the international community when one could say the writing has been on the wall for a very long time. well that's true that the constitution section $417.41 to give the provide an avenue for this this action and that being said this is obviously an action against the will of the people of myanmar against the over 83 percent of people who voted for the n l d in the last election so i don't think that we can say that this is a purely legal move by the 'd military and i do have to say that you know i want to emphasize that the grave threat that civil society and the people of myanmar are under right now we have colleagues who are in hiding we have you know as you
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mentioned there are tanks on the streets. just called whore for people to come out and to resist the the military 'd so there's a real danger here that based on past experiences that we could see the bloodshed in violence so i think there's a responsibility i'm part of the international community on the part of china and other neighbors so to really call for the military to exercise restraint and to to abide by the rule of law here we are nearing the end of the program very quickly michael shannon i could see you nodding there i want to end with putting that same question to you was the writing on the wall and me and. we have a disagreement about this because i do think it was on the wall of readiness of the wall and i think that indian they have some responsibility for not having to live this what's great about this but have some responsibility for accepting that constitution. the thing that worries be the most thing that worries me is not snows as the bennetts lights in our country for the next 4 or 5 months so until end of
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the end of may so we don't know what's going to happen to civil society groups and leaders and that kind of thing on the ground so that's what we're. a big thank you to all about guess we have to leave there for a time michel. and paul dano it's we appreciate it. and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website is there at dot com to further discussion you can go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com folds josh a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is a.j. inside story for me can you tell the whole team here.
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