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my faithful followers being safe and secure our tradition of groundhog must endure we have all passed through the darkness of night but now see hope in mornings bright light but now when i turn to see there's a perfect shadow cast of me 6 more weeks of winter there will be. the top stories are now just there the russian opposition to an extent of on a has been sentenced to 3 and a half years in prison the vocal critic of president putin was jailed for breaching his probation terms by traveling to germany for treatment after he was poisoned by a nerve agent the russian government to suspected of orchestrating the attack his time will be shortened due to time served on the house arrest his lawyer says he
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will appeal the court's decision while supporters have vowed to protest in moscow thanks andrea tries outside the court in moscow. basically what he said in court is that is this is a political showcase meant to scare. people millions of people who are against putin and against the presence of. the present way that russia is iran and he also said that this was a fabricated thing in order to remove him from political political life. have been public displays of protest against the military coup in myanmar. people in the largest city yangon blue car horns and banged pots in anger against the overthrow of elected leader and son sooty she's now been moved into house arrest after the military detained her early on monday morning the coup follows her party's landslide win in november selection which the military refused to accept at
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least 3 people have been killed and 7 injured after several bombs exploded in afghanistan police say 2 people were killed in the capital kabul after their car was targeted with a so-called sticky bomb. stage 3 trial results are found the russian made sputnik reeve axion to be nearly 92 percent effective in protecting its covert 19 it's already been approved by 15 countries including argentina hungary and the u.s. . at the same time a new study shows the short developed by the drug for astra zeneca and oxford university for maine's highly effective for 3 months after a single dose it supports decisions made by countries including the u.k. to delay the 2nd dose needed for longer term protection there's the top stories do stay with us and i was there at the stream is up next hour more news for you dr death.
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our family ok welcome to the stream in a global pandemic it makes sense for every country whether there were a developing country or a developed country to have access to life saving coverage in fact seeds but this is not the case as the director general of the w.h.o. the world health organization dr to cross explained recently. i do is to reach under these are only no adverse events to their citizens while the world is the least of all of the countries wards and would this is not all this is not only
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leaves the ones most vulnerable people are the risks it's also short sighted and self defeating the us emotionalism will only prolong the bundle that a solution is needed to contain it. yeomen learn legal need to suffer in. a conversation today will the developing nations get a fair shot at the current 19 vaccine i know you have opinions if you're new to it right now jump into the comment section and be part of today's program our lineup of guests a very invested in this question really nice to see all of you dr and goes easy not to krishna i challenge nice to see what does our international audience need to know about pleasing to jesus. well thank you phemie just need to know the former board chair of the global vaccine alliance gavi and president e m d a w h o and also african union 1000 envoy good to have you not to question i
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welcome to the stream introduce yourself to our international audience base where you hi i'm chris now that i come our home a doctor and a faculty member a duke university and i read our global health innovation thank. you for trying to write more what's happening in terms of global equity as well as recommendations or how to make things better thanks for joining us and actually introduce yourself to our international audience what do we need to know about you we collared him best pick thank you my name is our job. in india and brazil and south africa and access to that is this i think of the arts as a project i started this about 18 years ago i worked in sub-saharan africa is crisis at the time and it got its name i'm so glad you mentioned that because i'm just thinking where if we see missing soon should be for when the wealthy countries
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are saying this isn't for us a new poor counties where you soon it out for yourself julie s.k. on twitter he summed it up beautifully i hope these rich countries don't repeat the same mistakes experienced during the the aids pandemic goodness me actually you know about that not to question you know about what happens. well the there are some really interesting about those and also some differences what happened around the turn of the century was that from cynical monopolies that western pharmaceuticals they go out and open across the world became a reality more with the creation of the w t o so what happened when aids exploded in sub-saharan africa was that you had these miracle treatments wasn't a cure but a miracle treatment effective antiretroviral therapy that came to the market in the
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united states in 1906 but it was unavailable in south africa for instance until 2004 because it cost $10000.00 a year just just we too much for any individual or even any government to afford to go out to its citizens and dalton goes we have an even more recent example which is the h one n one situation and again what happened there so we we should be mining our lessons when i think this was a. time when rich countries when we had the trial and one pandemic which countries bought up all their vaccines live in poor countries with none now access to vaccines. so he's the thing i'm thinking of right now this idea of vaccine nationalism which is countries which is which is understandable would be to make sure that they protect that citizens with in their country but we've learned from the well i don't know how we learned from these lessons in the past so don't
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think i think that there is a scheme there was a plan already for coding 19 that there was a group of collaboration known as contracts which would help with distribution which would help with 'd facts scenes which would help with even diagnoses so that deep regardless of what we g.d.p. was you would still get that seat how's that playing going. well thank you femi actually this is the only international game in town to ice show ever the lineup for they have all access to poor countries and 1002 countries members and we were able to raise 2000000000 dollars last year to try and procure vaccines so that these countries can get it at really very low prices to you know free and the pop death populations can get to a tree if if possible and what i have now is that they aim of kovacs is to
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contract out about $2000000000.00 doses by the end of 2021 so they that it's nearly there and they've actually signed $1200000000.00 is what the issue is it's one thing to sign an agreement to get this is quite another to get it somewhere very worried that some countries developed countries may be bidding for some of these vaccines and some are willing to pay higher prices and we have we're just asking them to pay attention so that this does not deprive what our interests of that. is a worry is it doesn't that. is the worry is actually is not get it absolutely is then you're right we're now moving from a point in time where we were really worried about how low and middle income countries would be able to purchase vaccines to now really worrying about the timing of when they're going to get access so the kovacs arm is really the only
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multi lateral platform but we're we're starting to see if that if country of the more desperate about their needs they're moving on to other mechanisms as well though even if actively evil could be high income countries. i wouldn't bring in francesco because he's not all bad news or some other creativity happening to countries to get the facts and our really going to get hold of that is that not. this is francesco and he has a story about children couple that happens. george began its sox nation campaign about 2 weeks and what is remarkable about it is that refugees and jordanian alike are included in the us without distinction this is a remarkable achievements and builds on the response of national responsible and then in crisis since the beginning whereby refuges been included in class. effective way to stop them to spread is indeed to include every population in your
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soil including refugees international. actual so that can be done it can be done soon why aren't more countries able to to work this system so they can actually get the vaccine go ahead. does a really interesting thing happened which is i think very instructive from the aids crisis so during the it's crisis there were aids drugs available technology to south africans right they just have to be $10000.00 which is as they could not afford that's open but you know the situation now is a little lizard because with western backed they've just been bought up so over 90 percent of the fire incident whatever vaccines are already bought up all the way until the end of dirty pretty one by just a handful of rich countries now the situation when we began with our western countries will find they've placed all these preorders they must be doing great it's poor countries we need to worry about but if you go in the headlines of the
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last couple of weeks actually western countries are not doing that well they're rolling shortages all across the united states the e.u. is suffering from a crisis it's that stated i think only about 2 percent of its population so far that the dutch are writing on their streets the commissioner of the european union has just instituted an export ban on the astra zeneca vaccine because they're scared a company that they invested a lot of money in and bought a lot of vaccines from actually shipping that vaccines elsewhere and are giving it to the european union so the fight about this pandemic i think that we should all be paying attention to is that this is not really working out well for either rich countries or for poor used. doesn't connect you cannot be happy yes connect me on that femi i just want to support the last point this by endemic has different because for the 1st time the whole world is affected and the manufacturing capacity to get enough doses for the world is really in short supply never before has the
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world had to produce billions and billions of those is at the same time so this is a problem that not enough investment has really gone into manufacturing capacity we're lucky that the institute of india ramped up production with our system strong gates to be able to produce a 1000000000 dollars this year but we need more manufacturing capacity that's really the problem there is a shortage of supply. i want to have those really cheerful or an adult because i'm going to go to you tube so that you can have a conversation with without audience as well excuse me sense of butting in is rany can any international body make sure that scenes are distributed even eat like it was that our dr christian to accompany. yeah i think this is pointing out that while we have some global governance with the world health organization and with kovacs nationalism that we've just talked about is overriding all of those even
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among high income countries and you'll see that even the africa c.d.c. and the african union have recognized that in addition to kovacs there have to be other mechanisms so they've gone out and made 2 separate german 270000000 doses in one and $400000000.00 doses and another so even if kovacs the wildly successful this year only 20 percent of population in our core countries are going to get access to vaccines so we do have to solve the doctor and go the the exactly right that it's becoming more and more about manufacturing which is really also a recognition that the science behind vaccine development has really delivered that it now looks like we have more than a handful of vaccine that are going to be effective at addressing this coronavirus and so the focus now moves over to vaccination and then access. will question from each e.p. at wendy's accedes costs much maybe she'd say no cost to everybody he wants to handle that $1.00 and just gives you take the sly. well. i think
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vaccines cost assume much because the amount of research and development investment that has to go into them is substantial so in order to cut costs and sometimes make a little bit of a margin. then companies you know have to charge these high prices but what we've tried to do is to help poor countries so that they don't have to pay such high prices because they can't afford it like i chair was saying before days no way people can pay it to $6.00 they doze for fire for my data and similar costs may be far far far faiza a so that's why we created call that and we were able to raise $2000000000.00 from the international community are now expecting to raise another $5000000000.00 so that they can be affordable and
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a hope that astra zeneca. has. looked has contracted out about 700000000 doses of this we've now seen the problem with the e.u. but i do hope most of the supply from this serum institute will become available and sometime in the 1st quarter we'll be able to share is not a problem the problem is the e.u. is saying they were buying up all mass and they were buying up so much that the atua vaccine producer they couldn't even make it fast now when the e.u. got really mad they don't run as anyone would and they're not getting the vaccine me well until the developing countries same with outcome of the new e.u. let me just bring in another thought. i would entice you to comment on that. let me bring in another still and this is if you don't get together as a well recovery 1000 as and that seem to everybody there is a cost and listen to self. if you're talking about video and the invest in
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a city like coal that we're talking about $38000000000.00 in order to manufacture and distribute $2000000.00 doses of vaccine to 20 percent of the growth population on judge or hand in the absence of equitable distribution seems we are talking are talking about billions and trillions of dollars it would be borne by the u.s. into countries so it is primarily a humanitarian responsibility to produce and distribute it acts in scope really but we shouldn't it is also an economic motivation for us it is countries to contribute to such facilities so this is not an act of charity this is an act of economic pressure and no economy will be fully recovered on this all of the economies recover. thoughts. look i think this is an extremely potent point the idea that none of us are safe until every one of the
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safe and the best way that is illustrated not chillingly is in the new variant so you have variants in south africa or variants in brazil in the united kingdom the less vaccinated people in these countries the more those variants will spread making all of the vaccines potentially less effective causing problems to the very richest countries who have bought this vaccine i just want to say though i'm a fan of yours i admire your vision your career and i also like your son writing a lot but i do want to say that i think garvey has had. has demonstrated in a similar way to the failure of western pharmaceutical companies a failure of western philanthropy got he has never really pushed western pharmaceutical manufacturers to release these monopolies on their vaccines and to seek more collaborators as missing now you know a bit doing out of necessity so pfizer has got affected most artists and so no fee to produce its vaccine because it just doesn't make enough but you know we knew
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this early on we knew this last year and that's why there's a proposal at the beauty oh it's. you know i think you may have something to do it in the future where india and south africa have asked for pharmaceutical monopolies to be waved in the back there because an act of solidarity might have actually is the key right and it just makes no sense that in the bank to me we are allowing pharmaceutical companies to keep the most valuable thing to them and the most harmful thing to us which is these monopolies that out to officially restrict who can manufacture vaccines and in what quantity. well i had to be. come in on that and thanks for your nice compliments you know what you said before that no one is safe until everyone you see this is very very true that but that's why we all have to work together to make sure everyone has access what preterists recto gavi i would disagree with you somewhat in its ordinary vaccine work gavi has
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been able to push down the price of vaccines be law what you know people would not even espec for some vaccines for children that cost $100.00 their dues in the u.s. when we get it at 45 dollars 3 dollars sometimes that is unheard of because we have the volume the procurement power we procure for 60 percent of children in the world and so we can drive prices down so it has done that for this situation off of $1000.00 it's a little bit different because of the large volumes required and the fact that the manufacturing capacity is not there but andrew with you if you are actually thinking of the w t o those are the rules about how countries can get access in a public health emergency rules of the w.t. or for the tree didn't multilateral trading system so the argument that these rules
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should be made more flexible and relaxed so that countries can get access let access and affordability equity be there or they're right in the objective and i think we come find what type or less 3rd way to chance solve this problem in other words still allow access at 10 affordable price while still protecting you know the investment time research that went into these because some people argue if you just do this without some kind of framework in the future those who put money into recess. development may not be so keen so but time between days that we can do it 10 countries just need to put their minds and get together look at this ceremony institute of india they were licensed by astra zeneca in a slightly different form of agreement and i believe we should do much more of that . and if i can see her daughter matter. go happened because we're always at the end
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i don't do a lot with respect i just want to say that there are 24 maxine mckew factors in india one of the reasons that we have one back seat manufacturer making this act seems is because none of the others have the ability to do so because the western firms who do companies going to release their monopolies on the back seat. so now i'm not i'm not disagreeing with you i think of the writing objective should be equity and that cess i'm saying let's get to get them find a way to do it that is agreeable to all all parties manufacture as both in developed and developing countries and produce s. i believe we can do it so that we should we don't leave anybody behind because it makes no sense it makes no sense to proceed to have yeah and yeah and i want to point out i think the reference to the 3rd way we're already starting to see not just the sermons to india but we're seeing manufacturing in mexico in argentina in brazil in thailand astra zeneca vaccine none of which have overwritten ip concern
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so i do think there are mechanisms that we should really be able to learn from what's happening but we shouldn't lose track that what we know in hindsight doesn't change that 6 months ago we had no idea which vaccines may work and they're not all interchangeable so significant investment has been made at risk by lots of countries and the private sector to get us as far as we've gone now that we know that we have multiple candidates that can work we should be able to make even more focused investment into manufacturing to ramp up the effective vaccines that we have access to i did he let me bring in this is quick to me. thank you for being part of the show my government canada is paying for our vaccines i would like to see my government help so other countries don't have to worry about paying is the only way to get rid of the pandemic delta goes into that is what you're saying that's the whole point of kodak but i have to say norway is also using that
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approach and paying for vaccines for other countries to question go ahead. yes you're exactly right and we have seen canada and france come out with a framework by which high income countries can donate vaccine doses through kovacs norway today is the only country that's come out and said they're actually going to donate parallel paths in aiding their own populations so that becomes the real issue at hand is they're going to wait till everybody in your country is vaccinated or are you going to start donating at those doses in parallel of acclimating in your own country. i'm not there so i mean because i want to strongly support dr krishna i think we must say that some of the other countries that contributed to began for kovacs. countries. all of them came forward the u.k. but the issues so we are grateful to that for that to then fund that but the issue is exactly what he said we going to wait until all of their population has been
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vaccinated for getting those this. is less a no and that that'll mean very heavy cost for the global economy just as we said before we need to have a parallel approach and need to let all countries at least be able to get to the 1st 20 percent before some people try to do 100 percent of their current woes doesn't negate the i think that's very hopeful i don't think that's going to happen . but hey i'm not a vaccine specially so and i just know the developing world in the developed well i'll not sure that's going to happen this is key and peele has been doing some research on see what happens when jacksie nationalism. and she points out very dyess circumstances and some of the consequences. december 20th 21st in the vast majority of vaccine doses being distributed among developed
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nations call it a shortfall in manufacturing this means that developing countries will inevitably be left behind in the global explanation effort this has both moral but also problematic implications in areas with high virus securely ssion we may see further mutations that escape existing vaccine designs it is therefore evidence that vaccine nationalism can fact only perpetuate the global healthcare crisis where is it you can tell this is a very engaging conversation that most poor nations will take until 2024 to achieve mass complete 19 immunization i am wondering dr in the in the just briefly. do you believe that it's going to take that long for me unless we push very hard now what we're all saying and i challenge dr christian and myself we need to push admin out to make show doesn't get to go to be that way
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and i have to hope that if we do we're like truly be able to make it. i tell you positive yes and. you know i am positive there's an element of the room that we're not talking about which is not western vaccines and russian magazines which are mounting evidence that there of reality are stepping in and filling that gap has been molded by western pharmaceutical manufacturers and by western philanthropy so large parts of the arab latin america eastern europe. 1 are already taking millions of those as a sputnik beside of iraq and this i know from beijing vaccine so there are multiple solutions coming out but i would love to see you got. some attention to these not based on facts it's what we actually dealt see. and i'll tell you right now you know if you haven't seen the action. right. now this is this is
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