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violet is because they were made prior to her election as a representative therefore many are arguing that this is not the body to be disciplining her for those comments so this is the controversy again it will dictate the future of the republican party whether it wants to move away from conservatism and towards a more moderate traditional republican approach we'll certainly get an indication of that in the coming hours thank you very much can be held at washington. our top stories this hour police in me and mara filed criminal charges against ousted leader unsung suchi she was detained during the military coup early on monday 60 is charged with possessing illegally imported walkie talkies which police said were found in a search of her home hundreds of members of parliament who'd been held in a government compound since monday have been given 24 hours to leave the capitol naperville police across the country have shown their anger at the coup
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the scheme established to ensure poor countries get equal access to corona virus vaccines has released its distribution plans kovacs says it secure 350000000 doses to be distributed by the by the by july that would cover about 3 percent of the total populations of the $145.00 participating countries today we are pleased to announce the conclusion of a long term supply agreement with the serum institute of india for the coke 19 vaccine to access to vaccine products through technology transfer from astra zeneca nova facts unicef along with our procurement partners including power who will have access to up to 1100000000 doses of vaccines for around $100.00 countries. for approximately $3.00
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a dose for the low end lower middle income country. in other news a group of opposition parties and if europe is to grow region say more than 50000 civilians were killed in the conflict between regional separatists and the ethiopian army the estimate hasn't been independently verified previously the ethiopian government said federal forces hadn't killed any civilians access to the region has been severely limited since fighting broke out in november and the former head of the european central bank mario draghi has accepted a mandate to form a new italian government after the previous coalition collapsed the stream is coming up next asking if u.s. president joe biden can abolish the death penalty i'll have more nice fear in about 25 minutes time.
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i am so yeah ok neal watching this story because you were going to take a look at the movement of polish the death penalty in the united states of america you can be part of this conversation as well you can weigh in in the you tube comments and the car of today show. growing up my mom told me 2 wrongs don't make a right. my faith teaches me that we should return for evil and that's exactly what the death penalty does people who are capable of terrible things but we get on are the victims without creating more victims we don't raise people who are great to show that rape is wrong and we don't need to kill to try to show that
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killing is wrong the death penalty just mirrors that evil rather than healing the wounds of it byron's is a disease not the cure it's time to end the death penalty in america a moral argument that for doing away with the death penalty in the united states you're about to hear many arguments say we have some jer we have robot we have home and all the people at the courts welcome to the stream sanjay explain what you are for a international audience. hello everyone my name is sandra babcock i have defended people around the world who are facing the death penalty in africa as well as in the united states and i am also a professor who teaches students about capital punishment and i run a center on the death penalty worldwide thank you for having me. but tell
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everybody what you do. thank you for having me i'm robert dunham i'm the executive director of the death penalty information center depict doesn't take a position for or against the death penalty but were very critical of the way in which it's been administered i represented people on pennsylvania's death row for 25 years before joining 5 years ago. good to have he thanks for both making time for the stream and herman you are so relevant to today's conversation e.g. she south and why i'm elephant my name my name is herman lizzy i was 23rd death row is on every. sort of secretary of. the board on the border with the state innocent. right to express my story to tell people who the dangers of the defense here in them have to
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be or that it's really good to have you home and i know you said before that you were never sick get hearing the judge's sentence would she mind competing a what's that he told. on the day i was sinless you know i couldn't i was in a state. of a bad state like i'm numb state because i couldn't understand how i was found guilty of a crime i didn't commit and to hear the judge's word that i will never forget is here says we the people of the united the people of the state of floor their bias in a she would die by lethal injection those were stuck to me and i emotionally broke down inside. so drop a 2021 why does the united states of america have
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a death penalty. you know the death penalty really is a relic of an earlier age. and the united states continues to apply it because our politicians don't have the will to to do what is necessary and to that is to recognize that death the death penalty serves no pain a logical purpose until our elected politicians step up to the plate and exercise their leadership in their political leadership to abolish the death penalty we are going to be stuck with this system that is extremely costly that is administered in a way that is racially biased that singles out the most marginalized members of our society for a punishment that is imposed in and it an extraordinary only arbitrary way. well i'm just thinking the death penalty is
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a seen as the ultimate penalty this is what will keep society in in place it will keep order it will stop serious crime what is the stats that we should know about this what's the reality well the reality is that that's just not true we did a recent study we looked at 31 years of f.b.i. data the federal bureau of investigation data on murders in the united states and in murders of police officers because if the death penalty does reduce murders then that's a powerful reason that have it and if it does make police safer that's a reason also to have it in at least that narrow category of cases what we found was that over this 31 year period murder rates were consistently higher in states that had the death penalty than in states that didn't police officers were killed at a higher rate in states with the death penalty than states didn't have it and when
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murder rates changed when they went up or they went down across the country they went up approximately the same whether a state had the death penalty didn't have the death penalty word recently done away with the death and so what it comes down to is the death penalty does not make america safer and that's also the fact anywhere in the world where this capital punishment does not serve to make the public safer. i want to say ok pam in your own eyes ational witness to innocence can you explain briefly what it is in makes up the organization and then i'm going to play somebody story because these 2 things can and will well its cover. if they're from layout i want to comment on. please you know the death penalty is not something that put fears and the heart of americans to good to prepare their from committing
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a crime in fact when i was on death row i learned that many of the thinnest they're going to know anything about the death penalty they don't know anything about it definitely it was actually face in the. majority of crimes this is done a spur of a moment of time a term a passion or the emotion or anger it doesn't give them time to. think about it definitely so no i don't think that it definitely played any part of preventing anyone from committing occur and i'm going to show the audience the twitter page for witness to innocence this is a very unusual can i say sure. the nations of new york and i say she dedicated to empowering acts on her way to death threats to find this to be the most effective force in the fight for abolition harmonies on the board of the organization and the
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organization creates video creates a rana's and share stories to explain why we should have a death penalty night estates this is right in story havoc. i think when it 18 years old i don't go in as a 20 year old kid coming from a broken family or a difficult childhood i think i did almost 7 years in the military that i was working for the post of the time i read a personal pride of myself over what i was and what i call face. and presumably was you care about me was my family people knew me because he thought i was a murderer oh i deserve. that's kind of the way our justice system works you know we can pick somebody else up that it was a good kill him and they don't want to know any of the details the facts or even if he is killed he. thankfully my family and friends didn't give up and give me that i gave me the strength to keep going. my family as they were good at d.n.a.
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testing. that's when the doors opened up for me with a match to manage it right down the road from them or. see sandra and have and this is the horror of the death penalty what if you make a mistake beyond the moral argument beyond we need more civilized thing to killing somebody but the mistake part of it so why isn't that a deep enough argument to what she just getting it is the death penalty instant. well you know i think that many people are blinded to the reality of the death penalty as herman so aptly put it we we recorded all from descriptions of violent crime we recorded all from the very tragic stories of people who are on death row but what we know in people who are who take the time to become educated about the death penalty they realize that the people on death row
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are often either wrongly convicted or wrongly sentenced because they are not as as mitt ology would have it d.v.m. and evil sadistic killers these are people who are among the most vulnerable of our society they are profoundly mentally ill they're brain damaged they are people like lisa montgomery who was raped gang raped she was subjected to years of incest and rape by her stepfather she was sex trafficked as a young woman by her mother she continued to be raped and beaten in her marriage and this is a woman who as a result of that sexual violence that she experienced was broken she was mentally broken she was delusional and dissociative at the time of the crime she committed that crime she was guilty of the crime but the issue in her case was did she
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deserve to die for that crime and the jury who sentenced her to death never knew about the scope of the violence that she had endured and its effect on her mental health so that's what we need to focus on with the death penalty as well is this methodology that exists around who it is that is singled out for this alternate harshman. the reason why this movement against death penalty is. i would say new energy and maybe some new optimism is because president biden says that he wants to do away with the death penalty to stream contact the white house in the last few days have a look at a particular state and what he doing right now so the binding have an administration and they pointed us to their websites it didn't look like they would do much right now but they did talk about how many individuals have been sentenced to death since 1973 and. to pas legislation to eliminate the death penalty
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at the federal level i mean 70 fully states to flee the federal government's example these individuals should instead serve licenses without pay probation or parole how big a deal is this front. well it remains to be seen how big a deal it is joe biden will become if he moves to abolish the federal death penalty he will become the 1st us president in history to have actively oppose capital punishment and that's a big deal it's also extremely important as a symbolic gesture if he if he imposes a moratorium on executions but that is not enough you know we had a practical moratorium on executions and when barack obama was president they did not carry out any executions but during that time the federal government continued to prosecute capital cases continued to defend capital cases on appeal
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and so the cases continued to move through and when president obama left office he had the opportunity to commute death sentences of people who were on federal death row and he only issued 2 commutations that created the circumstance in which a president like donald trump was able to execute more people in 6 months than we've ever seen before in the history of the federal government's use of civilian. q sion so it's a big deal if the president comes through and that remains to be seen what will happen because when we look at the repeal efforts of the death penalty at the state level the successes have occurred when there's been bipartisan support winick when it's a repeal effort is considered to be political and partisan it hasn't succeeded so president biden has to somehow reach across the aisle to gain support from some of
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the republican members of congress if abolition is going to happen and he also has a lot of other things that he needs to work on right now the covert situation here so we have to give him a little time before he gets along this is really probably why they were they had nothing other than look at our website that they they were ready to tackle that particular issue yet but they also that their attorney general has been confirmed by the senate yet so he's got to get his team in place before he's able to move forward with his with this criminal reform agenda you guys and spawning a lot of conversation on you tube i want to share some of the thoughts with issandr and how men and another says i have a brother and sister who were murdered and i'm against the death penalty much cheaper to keep them behind the bars for the rest of their lives than to risk killing an innocent person herman quick response to that one. i
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do agree with her and what most people don't understand is that they're definitely brings no justice to either side is creating victims as they can see on both sides and my quick response to that is that. the death and to me is really if it was to be in polls is really the easily out because anyone commits one of those crimes they can just waive the appeals of the guess security and just say hypothetically may say oh god forgive me and repent for my sins and they've got to go away they don't have to think about the consequences or suffer any to minute to issue the new mantra trauma of what they're for what they have done yeah i am going to ask you this and this is reviving also unchanged the death penalty should not be appeased oney executed for the worst of crimes would be a push back to not. well because we were surprised most of the problems is that
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this is where we got a lot rougher convictions is the way society has not stepped up and their way of thinking because society thinks that ok for instance. will use example if a child was involved in a chase or underage person was more in the case of being murder the society or america think in look at it defend it as if he still wants that done it and that increases the. chances of could be in the wrong for curse so is the worst of the worst crimes because you're not thinking a certain way in society of a certain crime and it makes it difficult to even. justice to say what is the worse and worse. i'm going to bring up a coup in a barrett length she's on your professor assumed when she feels that now now is the
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moment of death penalty to be abolished have only seen the income of the back of it . my hope is that i did ministration will put the pozen federal executions and then and the death penalty at the federal level altogether having studied this issue for now i think 15 years i can tell you that the death penalty is deeply flawed for reasons that good people on both sides of the aisle would rightly denounce one of those reasons that the death penalty is racist there's been a number of studies on this issue and they all show the impact of race on the administration of the death penalty across the united states no matter what the study no matter what the analytics technique or the data set so either black lives matter or when an actual lives are at stake or they don't it's really just that simple. you know i think i think she's right and there is a reason why the great majority of the world's countries have abolished the death penalty
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and you know many of those countries are in places we wouldn't expect of course europe and latin america have abolished the death penalty almost entirely but also most african countries have abolished the death penalty either in practice or as a matter of law and that is because you can't think or with the death penalty and make it perfect response to that one question you know why don't we just reserve the death penalty for those people who are really really really bad where the evidence is incontrovertibly but that gets back to this mythology that i mentioned before and that herman also pointed out which is that those cases don't exist there is never a system where you can eliminate the possibility of human error and moreover when we look at those terrible crimes those are precisely the crimes where the the risk
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of error is the greatest because people get blinders when you have people who commit violent crimes there is such overwhelming pressure to convict someone to put someone someone who way and that they cut corners and they ignore igs exculpatory evidence we call this the death penalty exception to the rule of law it has a warping of fact on the entire criminal legal system there is simply no way to make that perfect. i want to show and. the states in the united states that have capital punishment the death penalty than the states with capital punishment. see the difference that between the blue and green how do you turn the long term. it's what. well i don't think we're going to turn the entire united states blue but it is
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getting bluer and bluer for your map in fact there are there are 28 states that still have the death penalty but 22 have got rid of it and among the states to do have it california and pennsylvania account for almost one 3rd of the country's death row and governors in those states have imposed moratoria on executions we've had the last 2 years record low numbers of new death sentences imposed were near all time lows in the number of executions and the death penalty is disappearing one of the time state by state is likely that we will see another state of polish this year they'll be votes within the next 2 weeks on that in virginia and you can down drive from the tip of maine to z. tip of west virginia more than a 1000 miles without ever entering a state in the in the union that has capital punishment only 1.2 percent of the counties in the united states account for half of everyone who is on death row and
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counties are using it less and less and counties are electing new prosecutors who want to change the system so i think that we're going to see at a county level and one at a time at the state level the death penalty continually does disappear in the u.s. . but could the president on a federal level just say and now it ain't could he get enough you know make is to make that no no it's not that is the question that is the question the president doesn't have the power by himself to abolish capital but he does have the power to grant clemency and commute the sentences of everybody who is on death row. i'm going to play a comment from to make it to me kate is a teacher to make it is he is feeling very optimistic about what the president is able to do and able to get along with lawmakers on board to do it with allison. i hope the bio ministration finally does away with the death penalty in the united
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states it doesn't save taxpayers dollars it doesn't deter crime it doesn't bring peace to the individuals involved it's a tool in the criminal justice system that makes money off a black and brown incarcerated bodies it was a political tool used by the former president in those last pitiful days of office . it is time to do away with these stings of injustice in our country it is time to abolish the death penalty. this is something i want to share with you and this is from start to debt. and stuck in debt says to many what if so gray areas i could never be on a jury and vote for the death penalty even if i thought they were guilty but isn't it public opinion that really is the is the battles that i've a petition to have to feel that their constituents absolutely think it's not it's not reasonable to have the death penalty is it just the general public. that you
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have to persuade. funny thing about that is if you're not sure if you can vote for the death penalty you can even be selected for jury so you know. that that is a great floor you have to be able to vote for the death penalty to actually be on our deputy takes your here so. that is this society you know we have to. try to adjust which there is no way to adjust because the difference here supposed to be for the worse of the worst but the crimes that is completely committed the worse or worse is actually people with mental issues which our constitution is will still say we cannot execute but as well as much as i said as an lisa montgomery case 'd if they
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aren't so you know someone being on that jury. having a difficult time that's not going to work. i want to share a tweet that the sun to tweet it out because i just didn't talk about death penalty but we didn't really describe what it might be night can and sandra posted this imagine this a group of men strapping lisa down to a gunny strapped in her arms her next to her chest she's being held down by men many times before she disassociates they pump her full of points and. face justice pretty much sums up the conversation we've been having today i want to thank our guests for being with us thank you sumter thank you rob thank you herman he want to follow that what he can do very much say on the 9 cent sound a backup is here on twitter. you can all said trial
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on the death penalty information center. and final witness to edison's and that wraps up a strong show for today on c.n.n. starting thanks so much. as information on governments responses to covert 19 across the world emerges so to as a deeply disturbing question. people in power investigates allegations of systemic discrimination against the pandemics disable victims and dos has there been
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0 i'm maryam namazie and london our main story this hour police to file charges against unsung suchi i'm asked to present when me and 2 days after they were removed from power in a military coup leaders are asking for suchi to be remanded in custody for 2 weeks can't hear lopez how diane reports. military vehicles patrol the streets of myanmar they are a reminder of the coup may be over but hits against alstad leader on songs which she and her government continue.

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