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but he says he won't be resigning the shooter morty reportedly told a meeting of the japanese in the pit committee on wednesday that meetings with female directors can take a long time and are quite annoying. the 83 year old who is the former japanese prime minister is under pressure to step down he will do is create pages to the statements made at the g o c committee yesterday was an inappropriate expression contrary to the spirit of the paralympics i am deeply remorseful i would like to throw out the statement i would like to apologize for any unpleasant feelings. you without these are the top stories the international criminal court at the hague has found ugandan militia leader dominic angwin guilty of war crimes a judge says he ordered the killings of civilians and abducted children steadfast and has more from the hague. it was a very long list of crimes that he's now been found guilty of 1st 61 accounts of
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this 70 account that he was facing the most important message from the judge though was that he is holding on when fully responsible for the crimes that he has committed because of course we know that he has been a former child soldier himself the defense has said that he is mentally able that he has post-traumatic stress syndrome and all kinds of mental illnesses but according to the judges that didn't matter when he was committing these crimes he was fully aware of what he was doing in other news an activist group in me and. 147 people have been arrested since monday's coup social media is being restricted including access to facebook the un has criticised the move away from democracy. and the red cross and red crescent movement say 70 percent of covert $1000.00 bank seems administered so far i've been in the world 50 wealthiest countries it's
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is off balance or becoming more dangerous the world is looking at us with a mixture of sadness and. with the election behind us will the republican party dump truck to the hill weekly take on us politics and society that's the bottom. i answer yes ok now watching this stream to see we're going to take a look at the movement of polish the death penalty in the states of america you can be part of this conversation as well you can weigh in in the you tube comments and the car of today show. growing up my mom told me 2 wrongs don't make a right. my free teaches me that we should return for more and that's exactly what the death penalty does people who are capable of terrible things but
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we can honor the victims without creating more victims we don't rape people to show that rape is wrong and we don't need to kill to try to show that killing is wrong the death penalty just mirrors that evil rather than healing the wounds of it violence is a disease not the cure it's time to and the death penalty in america. a moral argument that for doing away with the death penalty in the united states you're about to hear many arguments say we have solyndra we have robot we have him and all the people at the courts welcome to the stream sandra explain what you are for a international audience. hello everyone my name is sandra babcock i have defended people around the world who are facing the death penalty in africa as well as in the united states and i am also
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a professor who teaches students about capital punishment and i run a center on the death penalty worldwide thank you for having me. to have a robot tell everybody what you do. thank you for having me i'm robert dunham i'm the executive director of the death penalty information center depict doesn't take a position for or against the death penalty but were very critical of the way in which it's been administered i represented people on pennsylvania's death row for 25 years before joining 5 years ago. good to have he thanks for both making time for the stream and herman you are so relevant to today's conversation e.g. she self and tell our audience why i'm elephant my name my name is herman lizzy i was 23rd death row is on every. sort of secretary of. the board on the border with the state innocent. right to
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advocate express my story to tell people who the dangers of the defense here in them have to be are the. ones really good to have you home and i know you said before that you will never forget hearing the judge's sentence which he mindful p.t. know what's that he told you in. on the day i was sinless you know i couldn't i was in a state. of a bad state like i'm numb state because i cannot understand how i was found guilty of a crime i didn't commit and to hear the judge's word that i will never forget is here says we the people of the united the people of the state of for or care about us an issue but die by lethal injection those words stuck to me and
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i emotionally broke down inside. so dress in 2021 why does the united states of america have the death penalty. you know the death penalty really is a relic of an earlier age. and the united states continues to apply it because our politicians don't have the will to to do what is necessary and to that is to recognize that death the death penalty serves no pain a logical purpose until our elected politicians step up to the plate and exercise their leadership in their political leadership to abolish the death penalty we are going to be stuck with this system that is extremely costly that is administered in a way that is racially biased that singles out the most marginalized members of our
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society for a punishment that is imposed in and it an extraordinary arbitrary way. well i'm just thinking the death penalty is a seen as the ultimate penalty this is what will keep society in the in place it will keep order it will stop serious crime what is the stats that we should know about this what's the reality well the reality is that that's just not true we did a recent study we looked at 31 years of f.b.i. data the federal bureau of investigation data on murders in the united states and in murders of police officers because if the death penalty does reduce murders then that's a powerful reason that have it and if it does make police safer that's a reason also to have it in at least that narrow category of cases what we found was that over this 31 year period murder rates were consistently higher in states
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that had the death penalty than in states that didn't police officers were killed at a higher rate in states with the death penalty than states didn't have it and when murder rates changed when they went up or they went down across the country they went up approximately the same whether a state had the death penalty didn't have the death penalty or had recently done away with the death and so what it comes down to is the death penalty does not make america safer and that's also the fact anywhere in the world where this capital punishment does not serve to make the public safer. i want to say ok pam in your own eyes ational witness to innocence can you explain briefly what it alls in makes the organization and then i'm going to play somebody story because these 2 things can and will well it's a cover. if they're from layout i want to come in on. your head please you know the death penalty is not something that put
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fears in the heart of americans to come to. their from committing a crime in fact when i was on death row i learned that many of the finish they're going to know anything about the death penalty they don't know anything about it definitely it was actually facing them and majority of crimes this is done a spur of a moment of time a charm a passion or the emotion or anger it doesn't get in time to. think about it definitely so no i don't think that it definitely played any part of preventing anyone from committing a career and i'm going to show the audience the twitter page to witness to innocence this is a very unusual can i say sure dummy tiara is the nations of new york and i say
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she's dedicated to empowering exonerating deference to find this to be the most effective force in the fight for abolition herman is on the board of that organization and the organization creates video creates a rana's and she has stories to explain why we should have a death penalty night estates this is right in story havoc. i didn't go in at 18 years old i didn't go in as a 20 year old kid uniting going coming from a broken family or a difficult childhood i think i did almost 7 years in the military and i was working for the post of the time i read a personal pride of myself over what i was and what i accomplished. in prison or people seem to care about me was my family people knew me because he thought i was a murderer or deserved to be that's kind of the way our justice system works you know we can pick somebody else up that it was a good kill him and they don't want to know any of the details the facts or even if he is guilty can he. and they flee my
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family and friends didn't give up and give me that i gave me the strength to keep going. my family as they were good at d.n.a. testing. that's when the doors opened up for me with a match to manage it right down the road from them or. see sandra and have and this is the horror of the death penalty what if you make a mistake beyond the moral argument beyond we need more civilized thing to killing somebody but the mistake part of it so don't why isn't that a deep enough argument to what she just get is the death penalty instantly. well you know i think that many people are blinded to the reality of the death penalty as herman so aptly put it we we recorded all from descriptions of violent crime we recorded all from the very tragic stories of people who are on death row but what we know in people who are who take the time to
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become educated about the death penalty they realize that the people on death row are often either wrongly convicted or wrongly sentenced because they are not as as mitt ology would have it d.v.m. and evil sadistic killers these are people who are among the most vulnerable of our society they are profoundly mentally ill they're brain damaged they are people like lisa montgomery who was raped gang raped she was subjected to years of incest and rape by her stepfather she was sex trafficked as a young woman by her mother she continued to be raped and beaten in her marriage and this is a woman who as a result of that sexual violence that she experienced was broken she was mentally
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broken she was delusional and dissociative at the time of the crime she committed that crime she was guilty of the crime but the issue in her case was did she deserve to die for that crime and the jury who sentenced her to death never knew about the scope of the violence that she had endured and its effect on her mental health so that's what we need to focus on with the death penalty as well is this methodology that exists around who it is that is singled out for this alternate harshman. the reason why this movement against death penalty is. i would say new energy and maybe some new optimism is because president dines in sense that he wants to do away with the death penalty to stream contact the white house in the last few days have a look at a particular state and what he doing right now for the binding have an
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administration and they pointed us to their websites it didn't look like they would say much right now but they did talk about how many individuals have been sentenced to death since 973 and by to pas legislation to eliminate the death penalty at the federal level i mean 70 fully states to fully the federal government's example these individuals should instead serve licenses without pay probation all pro how big a deal is this front. well it remains to be seen how big a deal it is joe biden will become if he moves to abolish the federal death penalty he will become the 1st us president in history to have actively oppose capital punishment and that's a big deal it's also extremely important as a symbolic gesture if he if you imposes a moratorium on executions but that is not enough you know we had a practical moratorium on executions and when barack obama was president they did
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not carry out any executions but during that time the federal government continued to prosecute capital cases continued to. defend capital cases on appeal and so the cases continued to move through and when president obama left office he had the opportunity to commute death sentences of people who were on federal death row and he only issued 2 commutations that created the circumstance in which a president like donald trump was able to execute more people in 6 months than we've ever seen before in the history of the federal government's use of civilian. q sion so it's a big deal if the president comes through and that remains to be seen what will happen because when we look at the repeal efforts of the death penalty at the state level the successes have occurred when there's been bipartisan support when they went to repeal effort is considered to be political and partisan it hasn't
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succeeded so president biden has to somehow reach across the aisle to gain support from some of the republican members of congress if abolition is going to happen and he also has a lot of other things that he needs to work on right now the covert situation here so we have to give him a little time before he gets along which is really probably why they were they had nothing other than look at our website that they they were ready to tackle that particular issue yet but they also that their attorney general has been confirmed by the senate yet so he's got to get his team in place before he's able to move forward with his with this criminal reform agenda you guys inspiring a lot of conversation on each i want to share some of the thoughts with issandr and how many and he never says i have a brother and sister who were murdered and i'm against the death penalty much
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cheaper to keep them behind the bars for the rest of their lives than to risk killing an innocent person herman quick response to that one. i do agree with her and what most people don't understand is that they're definitely brings no justice to either side is creating victims on his victims on both sides and my quick response to that is that. the death and to me is really if it was to be imposed is really the easily out because anyone commits one of those crimes they can just wave the appeals of the guess security and just say hypothetically may say oh god forgive me and repent for my sins and they've got to go away they'll have to think about the consequences or suffer any. minute to issue the new mantra trauma of what they're for what they have done yeah i am going to ask you this and he says reviving also unchanged the death penalty should not be
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appeased oney executed for the worst of crimes would be a push back to not. well because we were surprised most of the problems is that this is where we got a lot rougher convictions is the way society has not stepped up and their way of thinking because society thinks ok for instance. will use example if a child was involved in a chase or underage person was more up in the case of being murder the society or america think in a look at defend it as if he still wants that done it and that increases the. chances of could be in the wrong for person so it is the worst of the worst crime because you know you're not thinking a certain way in society of a certain crime and it makes it difficult to even. justice to say what is the worse
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and worse. i'm going to bring up a coup in a barrett lang she's a new york professor assumed when she feels that now now is the moment for the death penalty to be abolished have only seen the income of the back of it. my hope is that i did ministration will put the pozen federal executions and then and the death penalty at the federal level altogether having studied this issue for now i think 15 years i can tell you that the death penalty is deeply flawed for reasons that good people on both sides of the aisle would rightly denounce one of those reasons that the death penalty is racist there's been a number of studies on this issue and they all show the impact of race on the administration of the death penalty across the united states no matter what the study no matter what the analytics technique or the data set so either black lives matter or when an actual lives are at stake or they don't it's really just that
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simple. you know i think i think she's right and there is a reason why the great majority of the world's countries have abolished the death penalty and you know many of those countries are in places we wouldn't expect of course europe and latin america have abolished the death penalty almost entirely but also most african countries have abolished the death penalty either in practice or as a matter of law and that is because you can't think or with the death penalty and make it perfect response to that one question you know why don't we just reserve the death penalty for those people who are really really really bad where the evidence is incontrovertibly but that gets back to this mythology that i mentioned before and that herman also pointed out which is that those cases don't exist there is never a system where you can eliminate the possibility of human error and moreover when
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we look at those terrible crimes those are precisely the crimes where the the risk of error is the greatest because people get blinders when you have people who commit violent crimes there is such overwhelming pressure to convict someone to put someone someone who way and that they cut corners and they ignore igs exculpatory evidence we call this the death penalty exception to the rule of law it has a warping of fact on the entire criminal legal system there is simply no way to make that perfect. i want to show i'm not. the states in the united states that have capital punishment the death penalty in the states a with a capital punishment. see the difference that between the blue and green how do you
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turn the long term. it's what. well i don't think we're going to turn the entire united states blue but it is getting bluer and bluer for your map in fact there are there are 28 states that still have the death penalty but 22 have got rid of it and among the states to do have it california and pennsylvania account for almost one 3rd of the country's death row and governors in those states have imposed more korea on executions we've had the last 2 years record low numbers of new death sentences imposed were near all time lows in the number of executions and the death penalty is disappearing one of the time state by state is likely that we will see another state abolished this year they'll be votes within the next 2 weeks on that in virginia and you can down drive from the tip of maine to z. tip of west virginia more than a 1000 miles without ever entering
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a state in the in the union that has capital punishment only 1.2 percent of the counties in the united states account for half of everyone who is on death row and counties are using it less and less and counties are electing new prosecutors who want to change the system so i think that we're going to see at a county level and one at a time at the state level the death penalty continually does disappear in the u.s. . but could the president on a federal level just say and now it ends could he get enough you're in a case to make that no no it's not that is the question that is the question the president doesn't have the power by himself to abolish capital but he does have the power to grant clemency and commute the sentences of everybody who is on death row . i'm going to play a comment from to make it to me kate is a teacher to make it is he is feeling very optimistic about what the president is
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able to do and able to get along with lawmakers on board to do it with allison. i hope the bone ministration finally does away with the death penalty in the united states it doesn't save taxpayers dollars it doesn't deter crime it doesn't bring peace to the individuals involved it's a tool in the criminal justice system that makes money off of black and brown incarcerated bodies it was a political tool used by the former president in those last pitiful days of office . it is time to do away with these stings of injustice in our country it is time to abolish the death penalty. this is something i want to share with you and this is from start to debt. and stuck a debt says to many what if so gray areas i could never be on a jury and vote for the death penalty even if i thought they were guilty but isn't it public opinion that really is the is the battles that i've appointed have to
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feel that their constituents absolutely think it's not it's not reasonable to have the death penalty is it just the general public. that you have to persuade. funny thing about that is if you're not sure if you can vote for the death penalty you can even be selected for jury so you know. that that is a great floor you have to be able to vote for the death penalty to actually be on our deputy takes your here so. there is this society you know we have to. try to adjust which there is no way 'd to adjust because the difference is supposed to be the worst of the worst but the crimes that is completely committed the worse or worse
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is actually people with mental issues which our constitution is will still say we cannot execute but as well as much as i said as an lisa montgomery case if they aren't so you know someone being on that jury. having a difficult time that's not on their. i want to share a tweet that the cylinder tweeted out because i just didn't talk about death penalty but we didn't really describe what it might be night can and sandra posted this imagine this a group of men strapping lisa down to a gunny strapped in her arms her next her chest she's being held down by men many times before she disassociates they pump her full of points and east face justice that pretty much sums up the conversation we've been having today i want to thank our guests for being with us thank you sumter thank you rob thank you herman he want to follow that what he can do very much say on 9 cents santa backup is here
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on twitter you can also follow the death penalty information center. and finally witness to innocence and that wraps up a strong show for today. and some of. the. said his only change because. people believe in a post that has bigger than their. mom to make a political or my city around the state representative they put themselves to make the changes something that we. should have taken this long to do that in the name it's got to me. we have a disc culture to slosh or to create new areas we have to change this culture i am
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