tv Radicalised Youth Rethinking Radicalisation Al Jazeera February 5, 2021 10:30pm-11:01pm +03
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slowly killing the animals and the mangrove itself. this is what is to come more environmentalist if we don't do enough to stop the pollution and clean up our oceans. it was hard al jazeera the delta senegal wife nation on our website al-jazeera dot com get lots of comment analysis there as well. quick recap of the main stories now united libya has moved possibly a step closer with an agreement for an interim government a prime minister from the west of the country and the head of the presidency council from the east have been chosen in talks brokered by the united nations but it's not clear if they're up they'll be able to overcome military divisions on the ground country's been split by 2 opposing administrations which emerged following
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the end of mamba gadhafi israel a decade ago james bases at the united nations well this is obviously an important development we now have a new interim government for libya we have an ambitious timeline to elections this year to take place on the 24th of december but and there are many parts one we've been here before there was a u.n. backed government announced 5 years ago that came to absolutely nothing that unity government as you say we have the foreign fighters and foreign involvement in libya certainly a deadline has passed for all foreign forces to leave libya and they have not left the country the u.s. president has urged congress to do more to help the country's economy recover saying americans are hurting joe biden was appealing to republicans who have held up progress of his nearly 2 trillion dollars stimulus plan he said he wouldn't concede on $1400.00 direct payments to households. it came as new figures showed
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there were fewer jobs jobs in the month of january than had been hoped any 10000000 jobs still haven't been recovered. as a result of the coronavirus pandemic and russian opposition leader alexina vali has appeared in court again this his case dominated diplomatic discussions he was accused of slandering a war veteran a charge he denies meanwhile the e.u.'s foreign policy chief called for his release at a joint news conference with the russian foreign minister in moscow instead the kremlin expelled diplomats from 3 e.u. nations appearing to scupper the attempt to any reengagement that move in turn resulted in condemnation from germany and sweden who said their staffs removal was not justified those that lines this hour radicalized youth is the program coming up next and then more news after that r.c. later.
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for the past 20 years i've been working on the question of political violence and terrorism it's persistence in our lives in our times in our societies begs the question why. could it be that the policies governments think will prevent violent extremism might actually be making things worse in the aftermath of the 911 attacks on the united states in 2001 you could visibly see that the world has been securitized a certain architecture of things has materialized literally there is a certain presence of the state security that has been increased. the militarized presence has really transformed the scene of the world around us.
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there has been new legislation that has increased powers of surveillance that have given more of an ability to shrink the privacy space for citizens around the world . news alerts all the time keeping the citizen on their toes a certain friends jala g of be careful observe with or something that doesn't look right to be kept out tactically generally a sense of fear from. the threat has it been lessened has there been results in terms of addressing it and the paradox is that it has not quite the opposite so clearly something is not working. we must remember that the majority of political violence is not carried out in the name of any particular religion and certainly not only in the name of one in 2017 here in the diverse london area finsbury park a man drove
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a valley to the crowd leaving a mosque saying he wanted to kill all muslims but does the securitized response reflect this complex reality i've come to ask the young people here for their experiences. i was search more than 4 or 5 times within 2 months i felt that i was i was came because of my color rather than tradition wise i was actually. 33 times as well in underground as a so-called random searches which i didn't think it was a random search it was a norm in that time and still now i think that you expect every now and then to get a stop it's not nice. but every now and then it happens the narrative it has been going around for a such a long time if writing it when i see bearded man carrying a bag i get. suspecting that's a reality it's a sad reality you when you have internalized it become like i said if i am
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a person of muslim faith and i get like that i am the same what the other people might fear as well and it's i don't think it's necessarily is the fault of the people is the responsible of the media we've done that people who often dorothy who put this narrative out there bearded man or a man of certain color may cause harm this needs to change we are kind of like brainwashed to think that one. so that's the obsession with security just affect muslims or do others feel that they are suspects as well looking at post $911.00 and how you have been experiencing a lot of terrorism attack and so how did you live through those years and how do you look at how authorities have been dealing with this it was challenging because people's perspective of the minority group had already been made up and their mindset towards people of color people faith people from about kwame really didn't
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understand it was the fear of the unknown and we suffered from the collateral damage of that what's now expected of minorities after this event i feel like they're expected above and beyond decency in a sense to not be perceived as a new center menace or any of these things i think it's clear and devastating in how. we're automatically labeled with doing so. and activities based on person's actions is not the best example for the younger generation if they have to walk around in fear thinking of cause i look like this automatically i'm going to treat it like this it will be like this in the future about how people are labeled and by race gender or religion you well it doesn't have to always be like the more you are probably because you'll be in the so is its core certainly from from. living in this traumatized society everybody's doing in fear of being judged being
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pointed at being accused being isolated how can we now face tomorrow knowing this is what people think of us. while the british government claims to celebrate diversity many feel that their main policy against violent extremism reinforces these attitudes. even though i continue we need you to. be representing terrorism because terrorism and the. got to be free isn't just you know that prevents ponsford the governments contest strategy which the counter-terrorism initiative. is for example to identify signs that somebody might be vulnerable to radicalization or extremism might be looking for a change in behavior a change in social groups that you know people apart so moved for example it might
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be that people might sound a bit more aggressive they might. say if it's a concern from from the far right websites or the repeats in knots it could be perhaps a change in drafts and suddenly an increased would say the top 3. commission listens indeed absolutely. my son 16 a police officer from her. social what. a lot of questions about his arabic teacher and what he was learning and. iran and i challenged him to me like well why is he asked me the same question again and again.
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i didn't know my rights i feel like there is this big doll home i fell into knowing because i sent my son to school. we've documented nearly 500 cases of intervention was impacted by prevent to date these cases demonstrate both and islamophobia framework operates within the policy but also we have now seen how the policy has created a collective trauma to the community including children so that in essence the policy has created what is supposed to be fighting essentially you have to distance yourself from your family you just feel more and more isolated day by day was just you share your constant fear you have to do it alone whether it's teachers or doctors your social workers anybody you have this mistrust of everybody because you don't know anymore who to trust and you don't know what will happen to your children if you go to a doctor or if they were portrayed as someone. it's
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very interesting to see that which george orwell was wiping out decades ago has in effect now materialized. it speaks a certain language of authority it speaks of a certain language of demonization of certain groups or racialized a certain approach to discrimination that is a name. growing up since 911 this generation starts from a completely different perspective than other generations would have had one where it starts from a point of view of fear of a certain vulnerability of having to prove itself almost being paranoid all the time this very sense of uncertainty but also of a certain vulnerability. to find out how this might affect young people
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psychologically i've come to meet laverne andrews a psychologist who deals with marginalized jumpy. threat is the number worn through password really you know we're told it's everywhere we're told we're supposed to be highly suspicious of everybody and everything and i think it has a real impact on one sense of self as we know children are incredibly perceptive and perceptive you know if a think that their teacher or staff are or even mental health professionals are screening them that starts to really fragment the way in which you can have a relationship with a young person and yet today we have kids sitting in a class and feeling that they are in a policing system and the impact is you don't belong here you don't fit for a child who's developing and trying to find a way of being in the world that's a huge. sort of rebuff and i think that what i've seen then happens is that the
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narrative grows of everybody feeling that's difficult with this child suddenly children and then find themselves excluded not in mainstream school they're in people refer units young people that i've worked with can find themselves there and really have a struggle you know internally about is this me is this is this the person i am well actually yes people are telling them it is that's why you're there and then i think there is this sort of gathering momentum for many of them not all of them to join gangs to join to join because because that's the trajectory and it's very difficult to resist. being labeled threats leads in many ways if the person is not a threat and if they are innocent to a sense of injustice many reports show that injustice and out of your nation are factors in making people susceptible to the appeal from groups like islamic states
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who have found ways to turn the west glamorization of violence against itself. negotiate a mission impossible type of movie or a homeland type of t.v. series where this is all staged and presented as the logical normal narrative of the new world we live in. the paradox of the imagery as it is literally downloaded on these youth is that it becomes internalized they look at it that process it and they themselves tend to sometimes have to find ways to act in the video game for hours. and then many of those ending say in the military of the united states on forces and in effect replaying those very techniques through the drones that they would send to kill a young man. a hill somewhere in pakistan.
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he'll be the hot one the. genuineness of the one of the key innovations of the islamic state was its platform the videos that they have upgraded to a much much more different level of sophistication of quality. in effect a certain entertainment driven hollywoodized video games kind of approach which we hadn't seen. specifically when it comes to the group from the western world i think it was kind of a perfect storm of the manner in which an entity like the islamic state spoke was very fishy. and they spoke directly to them there's many many videos by isis saying to these communities you know what kinds of lives are you need leaving there are you happy that wanted to come here why don't you do that. we love it enough but let me clearly these people keep they speak to vulnerabilities they
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speak to a sense of identities and development they speak to them in connecting it with the . it is of discrimination that they're going through. do i think there are a lot of issues conflated here so so the 1st is this idea that you know the muslim community is being spied on frankly most of these cases that we've seen the court cases have been young man whether we like it or not they are the majority of people who are being attracted to these you know narratives that are coming out many would dispute that maybe but i'm just telling you what i've seen in the research that are done of over $300.00 court cases the majority of them have been very young and they've been made you and they've tended to work in networks so they will tend to
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know each other as well today a young muslim male around the world particularly in europe and in north america feels a certain stigmatization this is a fact we've had conversations with educators addressing that and feeling that that's precisely the trigger factor i think it does a great disservice to the same people from the same community the same religion same background who don't use those grievances as a way to then declare war. whenever you see going far away to kind of unleashed this violence or join causes that seem important to them let's say for instance people leaving france to go to the levant and join islamic state what's interesting with one is that there is constantly a reflection about the dimension back home how to go back to that society and punished.
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this is a group of people that left went to syria but yet what was seemed the most to be high on their mind was to pitch an attack where they would ship back that passed on to that society which is their society where they grew up with which you have grievances. i think it went beyond their wildest dreams in the sense that it became something of a moment of global it's in that sense that it's important what that the kid that must say or in minneapolis see into that that led them to go and join this it has inevitably points about how they consider themselves you need to reject. jane and
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you know your t.v. says what you hear about the professional students from the east of the west ask yourselves why would thousands of men here to give their names. and. if one wants to be honest you have to see the relationship with interventionism for instance that played out and seizing me for the past couple of decades you know these operation that took place in iraq and in syria and the sun held in libya. you cannot see that these actors simply come on the basis of this ideology which is apocalyptic and ignore the fact that in many cases they are linked to these conflicts and led to this generation that had basically violence as
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a way of life. was jets. beat. the. heat. the narrative has been so semantics that this is basically all about religion and islam and these guys are coming from there to attack the western world and these people are totally irrational removing the politics out of that removing the history removing the call on you imprint a room warping the foreign policy the interventionism extracting all of that and they think this as a sort of extra terrestrials descending from the sky and just have all societies. whether it's
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a mule nato or the united nations and meet with these top policymakers that are working on the signing these counterterrorism policies and engaging with them the difficult thing is to have them go beyond that which is familiar to them. particularly problematic is the cultural reading to understand western terrorist of the 1970 s. such as bottom line off in germany. or the italian red brigades one is invited to examine the societal conditions of say post-war germany and italy and their relationship with their rebellious you rightly so to make sense of al qaida and the islamic state one is to read. so clearly what we have right then and there is one yardstick social to understand one type of violence and one yardstick religious to understand something else that in fact may not be that different. the paradox in these policy circles is that all these professionals produce detailed reports that
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identify the causes of extremism as things like poverty lack of opportunity in a sense of alienation and yet the policies that get implemented always emphasized policing surveillance and punishment racism itself sits and question at the heart of this discussion on isis with the violence being that the european and the american consider exceptional inacceptable not because of what it's doing obviously terroristic and violent but because of women there is target. like on just short. of the minute you should. say. in a clear. position. on the t.v. i can tell you that there isn't in my dad beauty right now. but delusion is.
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on the fringe just want to deny cancer. all our plants from all offended just 100 years me when he spat upon see defend them and. dish unusual dream kid on for the. second question bob barr says something more profound and you know it's you. and many young people have reacted with violence as the imposition of a stereotype in many countries means that they face lives with fewer opportunities than their parents. and. indeed. one of the strong narratives in the western world about these faraway places is
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that they really literally waiting to come in and leisure violence that is already there. in many ways it's actually insulting to these parts of the global south where the youth themselves these largely very normal lives and their frustrations are of a different nature. of the front of you because you. will hear. some blokey way. of approaching it.
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shooting and then the world of the conflict is stupid because you should know what it was it would be rational to do. it might be something that nicky d.g.p. that is for. sure that he had this sort of cadence obesity in the head. because. of what they. did europe. before. they lifted men only with. so little off one.
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with. their frustrations are about development by education and by getting the job. but we need to reflect on now is where are we going into this new blade runner world of violence what do you do when at the end of the day you have a technique of terrorism of killing ramming a car or a van into a population indiscriminately that is used equally by people on the islamophobia side for instance the finsbury park attack equally by people on the western a phobic side as we've seen in nice literally the same technique. clearly this is
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less and less about ideology it is the return to the west of the violence that has shipped the world and the next phase of this is already playing as we see more attacks on the west by westerners themselves. we have to really accept the fact that there is nothing inevitable in all of this the fatalistic disposition that this is it this is the new world you know let's roll back those things that have to do with authority and has been societies that generate violence in the midst have to be stopped them up for ties and power those things have to do with interventions of foreign policy conflicts have to be addressed stop going there stop doing that.
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