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droughts and the world health organization is about to address the media in the chinese city of blue hand as it nears the end of its investigation into the origins of the credit virus pan demick the virus was 1st detected in blue hand in late 2019 the team is expected to leave the city on thursday we'll be taking you live to that press conference and when it happens. with al-jazeera these are our top stories police of fired guns into the capitol make a door to disperse protesters and that's according to the reuters news agency at least 27 people have been arrested and demonstrators have been hit by water cannon scott hyde has been following developments from bangkok we have seen mass protests over the last 4 days you know just before tuesday that the biggest thing we saw
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biggest action we saw kind of pushback from from the defense forces was use of water cannon on monday today we have seen that in multiple locations yes it was just in the capital neighbor but today we've seen it tuesday in multiple locations and as you said this is also an ape are aware. they fired gunshots into the air to disperse the crowds and i'm going against the joint is growing overseas in the last few days deal and became the 1st country to announce action against the military and suspending aid programs as well as high level military and political contacts iran has begun its mass vaccination program the health minister's son was the 1st person to publicly get the russian developed sputnik job to encourage trust amongst the people hong kong's top court has denied bail to media tycoon jimmy lai the 73 year old is accused of fraud and conspiring with phone forces under beijing's controversial national security law. rescue workers in india trying to find
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$197.00 people missing 48 hours after a glass to collapse and triggered flash floods 30 power plant workers are believed to be trapped in the tunnel at least 26 bodies have been recovered 2000 soldiers and police officers are helping with rescue efforts. the u.s. is investigating under and president. that's according to a court filing it doesn't specify waterland is being investigated for and opposition politicians in haiti have named their own president in an effort to drive out incumbent jovial noise as if. he has been who has been selected as the new leader is the oldest judge in the country's supreme court positions president moyses 5 year term expired on sunday but he says he still has another year in office. those are your headlines and back with more news on al-jazeera after the string. a lot of the stories that we cover all highly complex so it's very
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important that we make them as understandable as we can do as many people as possible no matter how much they know about a given crisis or issue or other parts of the side of this area the special object is overpowering as al-jazeera correspondents that's what we strive to do. and i am fairly ok in this episode of the student take a look at the divisions in the public company in the united states and rebel t o p a's hate look here on my laptop at this recent poll if goldtrail what to start a new political party such as the market party or the pizza party how likely would be to joining this question was asked to vote is 64 percent say they would they would join a new party i and the sas and you weigh in on this conversation as well whatever
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side of the hour you may well for the what if you have no button it's political party that you are behind jumping to the comment section of to have you be part of today's show. and when you have a poll coming out yesterday that 64 percent of republicans are willing to follow trump to a new party i think what we're seeing is genuinely an opportunity for some of those true republicans the i'm cursing or as the bands asses of the world to really make a move a moral move a moral decision is it time for the republicans to take back their party and allow the trumpets or the american fascists to exit or is it eventually as we're probably going to see the death of the g.o.p. as we know it and i think that in itself is more existential than it is any form of civil war where you get reconciliation is the outcome. moon so much to unpack geoffrey jean i read it it's really nice to me i'm going to get you to say hello to
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our international audience that explain who you are and what you do hi there jeff welcome to the stream what do you need to buy that important in this community. i'm not going to claim a lot of importance for myself but my name is jeff cabot service and i'm the director of political studies at the scan in center which is a center right thing just in washington d.c. i'm author of history of the republican party and a columnist for the guardian newspaper and this generally is my 2nd time on the street because i was on it not too long after watch early start it up about 67 you're welcome back 95 coming back to us and i think it's a nice to see. what you do for our international audience and. sure it's great to be here i'm gene card i am a republican consultant i specialize in communications i actually was a speechwriter for several cabinet members in the george w. bush administration and today i host a pod cast called bipartisan it's bipartisan not cast and i'm also co-chair of the
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right now impact which supports republican women running for congress nice to have you and nina shall welcome back to the stream audience who you are needed. i have am a former republican strategist at just the past 10 years working on congressional campaigns all across the country for republicans prior to that with an 82 members of the u.s. house of representatives both republicans most recently i was the founder of republican women for biden and now days i am doing our political consulting as voluntary on the board of republican women for progress. ok i guess i'm going to do fancy is republican whisper a saying jeff help us all civil what would be an example of a division in the republican party that you can see right now. well thanks for the question though it's obvious division in the republican party right now that we're all seeing is the question as to whether donald trump won or lost the 2020
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presidential election and this is a real dividing line and evidence from the poll suggests that more than half of republicans at least claim to believe that don't trouble actually won in a landslide jane who wields a vision yet jeff what jeff said as he took the words right out i'm out i think that's the most here division right now of course or at least other things if you believe that trump won the election then you believe that the insurgency at the capitol on january 6th was at least somewhat justified it's better etc you know if you believe that trump won the election you believe that he should not be tried in the senate i mean that it all ties together with that jeff i correctly identified the essential break. yeah i mean it's you who is at the center point is there anything else that you appointee that. we can right now that he's so significant that you would want to sweat out right at the top of that conversation. i would say there's a big distinction between those who believe the democrats are bad and those who
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believe that immigrants are worth forming some coalitions lead here and there so that's what i really believe we should think of in this next step as a republican party what we've seen and i have been a part of this in many ways on capitol hill are these conversations are just how bad the democrats are how they're going to threaten the american way how they want to take us to. example that's the stuff that i believe we've got to start the conversation with because that's what i believe really let a lot of people to click for a topic again in 2020 even though they don't like his behavior. and from it i just endorsers point of view there i think there is a real division between republicans who want to govern who actually believe that they are capable of at lansing policies through the democratic process and negotiating with democrats to get them passed and then other republicans who simply want to perform their outrage against democrats and make the case to the public that democrats are evil and shouldn't be trusted with any power and therefore maybe
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even their voters need to be suppressed. and for me i would actually want to add to what both of my colleagues have said here it's a that and jeff as well described the division in the elected republican officials the think about republican voters i think there's a real division among republican voters along the lines of class and culture that we have a working class and in elite class and this is talked about a lot between in american politics at large but it's also true within the republican party that there are class divisions. how is this all. being able to help be held together well we're about to see an implosion right now because one of the things i've noticed in the republican party if he has if not to say this is that it is really good at saying we are doing this or to get
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that whatever they want in terms of your ranking they stick together is is this going to be the one of the times where this doesn't happen jeffrey stern. you know the republican party historically had been a coalition of very different interest groups and what you've seen in the last several decades is the republican party becoming redefined as an ideological group and party is united it's largely because they forced people who didn't agree with their ideology to walk the plank and either to become independents or democrats and what the republican party needs to get back to being is actually a coalition that can disagree internally that going up whole different points of view and yet still partake in the democratic process. we i remember he saying that you were never back in like it is when was this 202016 so did you it michel will know literally walk the plank and then come off the edge the other side. and in many ways i was made to walk the plank literally and suffer the repercussions of
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speaking out being the 1st elected delegate to the republican national convention and 26th to go against then presumptive nominee trying so i got to see exactly what this was about this was not a night in behind one person so i saw the cult of personality start to form then and that was troublesome and worrisome to me but speaking from a hell experience for a moment this is back to governing and then we pick up all that which i just said is that it seems to me there are how can pretty in recent years has had so little interest in governing and we saw a president trump was not just an inability to govern because he didn't quite understand he was new to it but it a fundamental. kashif stinting him until the thing he had no interest a fundamental lack of interest in governing so that is what i really worry about the republican party has long doubt the party of no and that was not just troublesome for the future for those who really wanted solutions have been tired of
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things being just the way they are and want to push back on the status quo that's not traditionally ideologically so it's something you find in the republican party but in the younger set in millennia like the frustration of just saying no to everything and not really messaging our ideas better was something that i felt had to change and i wanted to be a part of that change so i started joining outside groups and learned to write never meant pac which i was probably on the border for more than a couple years and so co-chairing there because it was outside groups like right now home and political action committee that was doing the work of putting the pressure on elected officials were republicans to say let's come up with something different message differently let's pay attention to groups like women even younger women who traditionally were moving away for the republican party none of those problems in the been solved or it's no interest right now in the air or a drop in the now to want to still solve those problems. yes i have
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a couple of questions to you from orient so let me put this one to gene trump was the best thing to happen to america and the g.o.p. of a seat on is an opinion but. right down change. anything that was polls a to the president trump to the republican party. sure i mean and that's an that's an important perspective and trump revealed i think might be a better word he revealed some very important things that republicans need to be aware of there were you know millions of people who felt ignored not just by the political system large but by their own party they felt belittled by yes by liberal elites but also by conservative elites and trump woke up those people and said i care about you i hear you you have a voice now and the voices is very loud and have been silent to law and so i think
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that's very important in any future public leaders who are going to be successful and by successful i mean bringing together a coalition of republicans and keep the party intact that would be the new definition of a successful republican leader those leaders will have to speak to and listen to this segment of the party that felt so ignored and so mistreated for sela. jeff i was trying to wrestle with how would you define trump is emma and then i found a little clip of this is from marjorie taylor green and she said this and separate the fans and i feel that this to school great admiration from former president trump coming from her and i'm wondering if he says exactly he was tempus and haven't listened to her and then comes the back of the script. he was a president they didn't care about your skin color because god created us all equal and thank god our constitution affirms that he was a president that wanted every single person to achieve and that's why we support
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him that's why i've always supported him and i want to tell you republican voters support him still the party is his it doesn't belong to anybody else. you know marjorie taylor green recently elected congresswoman from georgia who was notoriously a q a non fanatic and general nut case it's best to disbelieve almost everything that comes out of her mouth off very consciously campaigned and governed as a dividing figure and he actually was really an alien force to the republican party which after all was the party that won the american civil war in the mid $1000.00 century it was the party of the union dump truck comes out of the tradition really of the defeated south the tradition of populism which aims to divide and inflame the population in this act of dividing will leave the populist with the bigger half of the coalition and ultram certainly made it explicit that he governed in the
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interest of red states that he didn't care about the blue states however having said that populism is often the response to rio problems and united states had in fact suffered from a number of somewhat ignored problems in the years leading up to trump's election in 2016 in particular globalization and automation and the special premium put on jobs requiring college education meant that much of the country was really being left behind and most of the prosperity that happened in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis really occurred in a few big metropolitan areas and you know though economic distress was not the sole explanation for the rise of trump ism it was one of the most important reasons. i lean i want to put this to you this is it was a link and then and right now in order to sense that there's a lot of news coverage around much and tina green the as a republican is republican strategy's i'm really curious whether you feel that the
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republicans have a much more. than this is most of them come off the back of coming out. the problem right now is the fact that one of the most visible people within their party the standard bearer of their party. he is a person who has embraced conspiracy theories has made social media posts calling for the assassination of political rivals and has harassed students who have survived a school shooting and so long as that person remains one of the most visible faces of the republican party it's going to be very difficult for them to be viewed as a palatable party a credible party in the successful party in those races that they need to win. well. what i really need to do is say what i think trump is a mess and trump ism is a cult of personality to me it's focused on policies that just touch i said those
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policies that populist nationalist agenda and certainly not a conservative vision which is rooted in classical liberalism so i do see trump isn't splitting the party the party really in its current form because that marjorie taylor green this congressman who we just heard in the clip she's a congressman from georgia she's in her mid forty's but just the other day she wasn't removed in a bipartisan manner by her colleagues in the us out around representatives from all the committees she was appointed to so she will not have the juice or power now and also congressman lewis cheney the number 3 republican in the house she's being supported she's standing up and speaking out once and pushing back against trumpets and so there is a rumbling right now and then you look at the senate side members like senator bentsen of nebraska who are tens of thousands of more vote the trump why his state with. you know you really look at this moment you think that there's something happening in any other because there's
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a part of the electorate that's ready for truly conservative principles and they're done with trauma so that market can be tapped it's just a matter of how so this divide. green when i see that highlight of the cultural divide really the city versus urban the educated versus not educated and we can say college educated that and then white versus not why so a lot of what about ism is happening in this moment and look at the far left does it there just need to be adults right now in the room that are willing to say it doesn't matter what the other party does it does not excuse tromp and i see at least congress alist change doing that right now so i am pleased to see it starting to happen. so we have 15 pietschmann child going on right now the 2nd impeachment trial for president trump and that that's a piece of history right there jeffrey but is it important history for applicants. i think the impeachment trial is an important turning point for the republican
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party but i'm not expecting a lot from republicans in terms of the number of that will vote to convict trump and remove him from any chance of holding public office again and that's because most republicans aren't very brave and maybe you shouldn't expect them to be i think there's a quote from go to that says unhappy is the land of the need for heroes it's very unusual for any party's members to vote against its own leader in an impeachment trial but at the same time i do think that the republican party needs to get past trump is up and some of those toxic legacies that rina talked about the white nationalism the push toward authoritarianism it really has to separate itself fairly clearly from those and in that sense impeachment will be a mischance for the republican party. i'm going to push on because there will be life former president trump really living it right now all of that a living of rondo is a conservative activist she's a young perceptive activist and she thinks there is no time to be thinking about
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a different platform as a conservative here has gina i do nothing because of the back of the media so in my opinion how do you need to embrace certain rights that are the america 1st priorities and we're probably ready movements and ideas to even begin to sow the republican party who bring more people over every don't support her adjustable form if we don't support marijuana legalization there's many many things i wouldn't change about the current republican platform to even when the election every year and so i really want to say as i'm now on it is people that police say on the republican thing to go back to the roots and go back to traditional conservative values when the republican party traditionally is not very conservative per liberty . well i love levy had to say personally i think i'm largely in agreement with her actually and it's lovely to see this type of passion coming out of a young republican. but what's important
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a lot of what's important about well if you just said is that the idea of returning a century to policy and philosophy i mean right now the republican platform literally the platform that was passed at the last convention was whatever donald trump wants is what the republican party will support we got away that was such a critical moment we got away from policies and a bit like a ground a grounding of philosophy so i think olivia is on something very important i can't wait and i hope this is part of the post trump arrow which i'm grateful has already started do we have a discussion not about personality not about a inflammatory and charismatic individual but instead about issues and policies and actually in people's lives yikes jeanne you know there are young people right now who who don't know what that slight not to be talking about a big fat ass nowitzki as a political leader in the united states i love this thought for mike the i'm going
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to keep this one to you renia the republican party lacks the ethnic or racial diversity necessary to survive the next 3 presidential cycles the democrats did if it's a black woman as a field p. republicans have yet to reach that milestone. i mean this is a loaded question femi it's a it's a complex question and just it's the boxes i check sort of speak to that i am under 40 and so being a daughter of immigrants from india and how does opportunity really get talked about from the writing or it's so hard to talk about it because in a way here is that the last display identity politics but in some sense i know the numbers of people like me who look like me and some like me are waning as well on the right so so there is this tension of how do you come to the middle and really fix the numbers problem in the party when people under 40 people who are 1st
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generation like myself and just generally people of color whether you're talking about the community so it's a it's a real question and a real concern that i just think party leaders have any band with to focus on i just don't see it happening in the next couple years i see a pushback more than anything else that really is rooted in hypocrisy really trying to call out come harris for example for celebrating kwanzaa as well as. jewish traditions as well as the things are from her mother someone in india this is disappointing to me because every moments that i'm on try top like that are moments at which i can't talk to my friends or people within my family about why voting republican is important for the future of our economic future and more fiscally conservative than i am anything else and i don't think that's very much unlike most
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people with my family background our parents came here the part of the law because of the country's opportunity this early primarily and so is the republican party hopes to have any gains that it's going to be a total shit in communications the messaging has to change there has to be not just as a big tent that that ship is common it sailed. because what we saw here is that there is no interest in being a big tent party i really really think this is and be a problem for the republicans leading up to the 2022 midterms and my last day that there aren't that i think the republicans need electrolytes to wake up and really see what has to change and i don't think it's in the aftermath of the trial or even a potential conviction it's one thing to say that we're big and it's another thing to show it would you agree we can say it all day that yeah that's pretty much i but i could i add something could i add something i think that the actual results down
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ballot of the last election showed that there's actually real repub real potential for the republican party to reinvent itself as a party of the workers which in the united states is multi-ethnic and multi-racial the party actually did much better than expected among groups like hispanics in sept laces like south florida and south texas and even performed better among african-american males for example and you know the democrats are actually becoming a party of the college educated professional classes and have shown relatively little interest in class politics and if there is a possibility for the party the republican party to become more of a positive force in politics again aimed at policies that would better the interests of what's becoming its base. i'm really glad you said that because i've got everybody amazing if you see asked that young man he's a young conservative and despite all of these divisions in the republican party he's incredibly optimistic this is pending. i hope the future
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g.o.p. will embrace the values that inspire me to be conservative activist and those values of limited government markets fiscal responsibility compassion and also striving for a more current american dream as a little towards the future as a climate activists and as a conservative i'm very hopeful of the conservative movement starts to lead on environmental challenges not be the party of no on them and really strive for the solutions that work for all americans that's all the republican party is all about and that's of the republican party of the future shitty me of only just got started in. jest and she and we know you're always welcome back to strain any time the us thank you cheapens thank you for your questions and really do appreciate and have a look here back here on my laptop and you can flip republican strategy so how can a story we've got yet here on twitter. it actually got easy to find
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